Before he became a movie star, was his previous job working in the sewers?
The villain revealed. (Scroll down to the paragraph just before the heading "Comic Timing".
The article is not about the film per se, but mostly about how Marvel is shifting to producing its own films as an independent studio in its own right, rather than licensing out its properties to the big studios.
Also, scroll down to "Coming Attractions" for additional info on upcoming film adaptations of its characters, including Hulk 2, Iron Man, Nick Fury, and Captain America.
Oy. The first one wasn't enough?
From the article:
"The move is as fraught with peril as a Spidey showdown with Kraven the Hunter."
In other words, the risk is neglegant, rather pathetic, and could be handled in the director's sleep? :-)
I mean, if you're talking about high risk, Kraven usually isn't the first guy that comes to mind...
What the heck is "neglegant"?
I knew that if there'd be a Hulk sequel that it'd have the Abomination most likely. At least I recall reading that somewhere. Hopefully it, and all other Marvel films, will be done much better than some of their earlier films, like Hulk or Fantastic Four.
Ed Norton has apparently been cast as Bruce Banner, and will take place following the previous film, so an origin story won't be necessary.
As for a villain, I'm hoping for the Abomination, too.
It looks like that in spite of all the casting changes, they may be keeping/upping the quality for this sequel. That's nice to see.
Tim Blake Nelson is the Leader.
I saw John Cougar Mellencamp on The Colbert Report recently, and judging by his immense forehead, he would have made a good Leader, too!
Liv Tyler is Betty.
So she's playing Master Pain?
Ed Norton has apparently been cast as Bruce Banner?
Before he became a movie star, was his previous job working in the sewers?
Hey, Hey Ralphie-boy
You guys cut that out, or POW! Right in the kisser!!!
Bang! Zoom!
"What the heck is "neglegant"?" -Luigi Novi
Yeah... that shoulda been 'negligable.' Sorry. :-)
William Hurt, General Ross in the film, talks about the movie and a crossover appearance by another Marvel movie character. Some spoilers in this interview, so beware.
"Hulk smash puny humans!"
Full trailer!
And man, it looks COOL!
That does look pretty sweet.
I liked the homage to the scene we'd always see in the TV show (where his eyes suddenly change color). He looked strikingly like Bill Bixby in that shot.
Is this another one where it's going to be at least 30-45 minutes before we actually get to see the title character? It worked for Jaws, but I don't like it in a super-hero movie, especially if the origin story has already been told.
Somehow I'm not all that excited about seeing this one as I am about Iron Man or Speed Racer.
According to the April 25/May 2 Entertainment Weekly, there will be a cameo appearance by (Highlight to read spoiler) Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark.
Trailer 2!
I liked this trailer. I particularly liked the bit of music that you can hear at the 2:22 mark, right after the "Hulk" title card pops onto the screen. Nice touch.
Saw the trailer. Doesn't appeal to me at all.
I'll see it.
Though who knows when. I haven't even seen Iron Man yet...
Great movie! Now THIS is how you make a Hulk film!
Screenwriter Zak Penn and director Louis Leterrier have done it. They’ve created a fun, action-filled film that satisfies fans of both the comic book and the TV series without descending into mindless stupidity. In other words, if Ang Lee’s 2003 mess was the classic green Hulk, this is Peter David’s merged Hulk, in which action and suspense is coupled with heart, and aspects of the different media incarnations of our favorite Jade Giant are amalgamated into a solid production.
Whereas Ang Lee obsessed over replicating the mechanics of the comics, Penn and Leterrier have correctly focused on their content. Whereas Ang Lee’s Hulk barely spoke, and did so only in instances that were problematic or apocryphal, Hulk actually has some lines in this film (voiced appropriately enough by Lou Ferrigno) that work, the last of which is priceless. Whereas Lee’s Hulk took so long before his first appearance that his film should’ve been called Crouching Tiger, Hidden Hulk, this film doesn’t suffer from a lackluster pace, and establishes a credible rhythm between exposition, action, romance, and countless in-joke and nods to the various media Hulks that never come off as forced or tired, and drew consistent applause from the audience at the press screening I attended.
Right off the bat, economical flashback shots establish the backstory of the gamma radiation accident that created the Hulk, complete with a machine in which Banner sits that bears an interesting resemblance to the one in which Bill Bixby sat in the TV show. Since the audience already knows the story, whether they’re aficionados of the TV show or the comics, rehashing it at length after five years in unnecessary, even though this is a reboot that does not appear to follow the 2003 film’s continuity. Banner is now trying to control his transformations with the help of a judo master who teaches him meditative breathing, counting each day since the last transformation (158 at the beginning of the film). I thought this a nice touch, and wondered if the judo would actually find its way, if only briefly, into Hulk’s fighting, but it was not to be. Bruce ekes out a living at a soft drink bottling factory in Brazil, alongside coworkers that include impossibly beautiful women and the usual churls who threaten to make Banner lose control, forcing him to mangle Portuguese in a way that both references a famous Hulk line while provoking laughs. After his blood finds its way into one of the soda bottles however, and is imbibed by a unwitting consumer (who bears a striking resemblance to a certain Marvel writer), General Ross and his special ops team leader, the Russian-born-but-speaks-with-a-Cockney-accent Emil Blonsky, track him down, and the pursuit is on. What follows is Banner attempting to elude the Army, while simultaneously trying to reunite with Betty (now dating a certain comic book psychologist), and searching for a cure with the help of someone whose presence in the film seems an obvious indication of who the villain will be in the next film.
The movie dispels with the pseudo-psychobabble talk spouted by Nick Nolte’s Brian Banner in the previous film, and is fairly straightforward, though not at the expense of intelligence or subtext. Whereas Bruce is a potentially dangerous monster, at least he did not intend to become one. But in seeing others like Ross, Blonsky and others willingly trifle with the gamma treatment for either revenge or power, the question is raised of who is the bigger monster. Viewed in this way, the Hulk and the Abomination are not so much monsters (at least not in themselves) as projections of who the men they were really were. The Hulk, despite his capacity for great violence, never hurts anyone who doesn’t try to hurt him, wishes to be left alone, and even protects those that Banner cares for. The Abomination, however, is a cold-blooded murderer who exists solely to provoke a revenge fight with Hulk, and this makes a statement about the aggression or benevolence that lies in the fundamental core of different men.
The CGI and special effects seemed pretty good, the one hour and fifty-two minute running time breezed by pretty quickly, and there were plenty of cameos and other references to keep those well-versed in Hulk lore happy, including (possible vague spoilers--highlight to read):
----The large device Banner sits in during the experiment that first turns him into the Hulk bears a resemblance to the one seen in the opening title sequence of the TV show.
----When we first see Banner in his apartment in Brazil, he is channel surfing, and for a brief moment, we see a scene from The Courtship of Eddie’s Father, which starred Bill Bixby.
----As aforementioned, a man known to Marvel Comics fans drinks one of the soda bottles from Banner’s factory, with ill results.
----After the first battle between the Hulk and Blonsky’s team, Banner is seen walking in tattered pants, and we hear a bit of the TV show theme.
----Banner tries to sneak into a University as a pizza delivery man, and the security guard he bribes with pizza is a certain former Hulk actor.
----The Manhattan researcher that Banner and Betty go to see for a cure in the film’s final act is another major character from the Hulk comics, and I’m guessing he’ll have a way bigger part in the next film, as we clearly see him beginning to go down that road in this film.
----The manner in which Banner transforms for his final battle with the Abomination closely resembles the tactic used at the end of the miniseries The Ultimates, specifically issues 11 & 12, which were published in 2003.(End vague spoilers)
Hell, the only thing from the mythos that’s missing is Rick Jones (boy, that guy just can’t catch a break between the 20003 film and this one!), and the film does well without him. All in all, this is a fun summer superhero film that everyone should enjoy, and sets some good ground for sequels. Marvel can now boast two good movies based on its characters in the same summer, and on that note, I should caution those of you out there who like to leave when the end credits start in order to avoid the crowds:
Don’t.
There’s an important Easter egg that occurs not too long after the end credits begin that is just PERFECT. Don’t miss it.
‘Nuff said.
---NITS & NOTES
Did that woman who worked with Bruce at the soft drink factory seem a bit too glam to be working there? Is she related to Jennifer Beals, or something?
---Possible Spoiler; Highlight to Read
“Don’t make me hungry……you wouldn’t like me when I’m hungry.” LOL!
Okay, so Blonsky is said to have been born in Russia. Fine. He must’ve come over to the U.S. early enough to be in the U.S. Army, which is why he’s seen in an American military dress uniform at one point when walking a corridor with General Ross. But why does he have a Cockney accent? Couldn’t Tim Roth, who’s a good actor, have affected an American one?
After Blonsky’s first encounter with the Hulk, he tells Ross Banner got away because of the monster, with whom he might be in league. Ross explains that Banner is the monster. Waaaaaaaaaaaaitaminute—you’re telling me that Ross let Blonsky and his men go on his mission without telling them first, “Um, hey guys? Er, try not to provoke an emotional reaction from Banner, because if you do, he might turn into a giant, eight-foot-tall, bulletproof tower of muscle that uses police cars as brass knuckles, okay?”? This was just dumb. They should’ve been apprised beforehand of what Banner could do, both to help them protect themselves, and to form their plan accordingly. For example, after sticking that tiny camera under Banner’s door in Brazil, only to have the dog bite at it, I would’ve stuck a tube of knockout gas under the door in order to render Banner unconscious. Or maybe have a spy infiltrate the factory where Banner works and slip a roofie into his food or drink in order to capture him passively. Instead, they blow his door out with explosives. Couldn’t this have triggered a transformation? Or for that matter, the pursuit? For this, Ross is incompetent.
---Possible Spoiler; Highlight to Read
After Ross captures Banner, Banner is seen being hauled on a stretcher into Ross’ helicopter, completely restrained. First, what good will this do? If Banner becomes emotional, he’ll transform and break through those flimsy restraints. The only way to truly prevent his transformation is to tranquilize him, as they had attempted to do throughout the film. Second, why do we then see Banner sitting, unrestrained, on the helicopter the next time we see him, before the Abomination has appeared?
---Possible Spoiler; Highlight to Read
After Ross removes Banner from Sterns’ lab, Blonsky appears, and forces Sterns to transform him into the Abomination. But once Blonsky was restrained on the table, couldn’t Sterns have called the authorities? I wonder if Sterns may have wanted to create and witness a gamma radiation transformation on some level or another, but wouldn’t he have thought that it would’ve simply killed Blonsky, given the somewhat technobabble explanation that he gave to Banner about his fluke amygdala being the only reason he didn’t die from the radiation?
Interestingly, whereas the Hulk is always depicted wearing stretch pants (or in the first transformation scene in the 2003 film, nude), the creators take a different tact with the Abomination: He has no genitals!
---Possible Spoiler; Highlight to Read
Why does Banner have to jump from the helicopter to trigger a transformation? Can’t he just slap himself or try running in place to raise his adrenaline? When this tactic was used at the end of The Ultimates in 2003, the reason that the soldiers on the copter did this was because Banner was doped up to the eyeballs with the antidote, and needed a trigger that could overcome this. Was this mentioned in this scene too? If so, I missed it.
Hulk’s response when the Abomination asked him if he had any last words? PRICELESS!!!
The manner in which Hulk puts out the fire that engulfs the helicopter at the end? Also a nice touch.
According to the 1960's cartoon series, Banner was exposed to Gamma Radiation from a bomb that was detonated by a rival scientist.
Apparently Rick Jones wandered onto the test site & Banner went out to chase him away when the bomb was detonated.
I'll never figure out why they can't do the movie like that.
That's how it was in the comics too.
As for the movie, well, yeah, they could have but the movie holds up well without him. My feeling about changing elements from the source material is, if you can make it work, or even make it better, then it's justified.
By John A. Lang (Johnalang) on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 8:01 pm:
"According to the 1960's cartoon series, Banner was exposed to Gamma Radiation from a bomb that was detonated by a rival scientist.
Apparently Rick Jones wandered onto the test site & Banner went out to chase him away when the bomb was detonated.
I'll never figure out why they can't do the movie like that."
As I seem to recall, scientists who build nuclear bombs didn't score well for audience sympathy when the TV series was being pulled together. Henceforth, David Robert Bruce Banner will be a scientist working on cures for things...
Cheers.
No, that's not what's in the movie. In the film, he is indeed using gamma radiation as part of a military experiment into what General Ross calls "bio-force enhancement", which Emil Blonsky understands as "Super Soldiers". No mention of him working on cures for things is ever made, though I think that was the idea in the 2003 film.
Hmph. Those intrepid spoiler-crazy commercial/trailer editors are still at it. In one commercial I saw a few days ago, an excellent dialogue moment in the film is shown, ruining it as a surprise. Granted, it's a cool moment that makes the commercial cool, and is a good selling point, but I wonder if people would've preferred to first see it in the film. Me, I'm glad that I already did, so it wasn't spoiled for me.
And in another commercial that I just saw right now here, the Easter egg in the film is in the commercial. I already had heard about this Easter egg before seeing the film, but it was still cool when I saw it for the first time when watching the film. Again, those seeing the commercial, especially those who hadn't read or heard about it, will have it ruined.
One thing I found interesting in the second commercial is a funny exchange of dialogue between Bruce and Betty at the very end of it. I didn't see this in the film, so it may have been during the few minutes I was in the bathroom, or is not actually in the film.
Here I thought I was going to be the first to say how much I loved this film (having a friend that won tickets to an advance screening), but Luigi beat me to it!
I agree with everything you said, Luigi, from 'famous last words', tips of the hat to the tv series, etc. but...
I really think you should have keyed in big, bold letters, *******SPOILERS GALORE*********!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In your enthusiasm for this film you pretty well told the whole plot! You comment on cameos, but don't mention names, which you might as well have as everyone reading it will know what's going to happen! You complain about commericals revealing too much; sorry, man, but you did the same.
I was just going to comment that everyone should see this movie, they won't be disappointed by it, it blows away Ang Lee's version, and Ed Norton is a far better Bruce Banner than Eric Bana. I didn't have a problem with Bana before-- Norton just 'feels' more right for the part, and Liv Tyler is a more appealing Betty Ross than Jennifer Connelly.
Are one of those SPOILER commercials you're talking about Luigi the one featuring Tony Stark that I glimpsed the other day?
Sorry, Steve, I thought I was vague enough. I looked through my post, and spotted one character's name that I mentioned, so I removed him, and other mentions of him.
As for the plot, I assure you, I didn't reveal any plot twists or surprises; it's essentially a chase-and-fight-sequence, as I attempted to indicate.
I've also formatted the list of in-joke references in white. Hope that helps.
Yes, Josh.
I printed this off before I actually looked at your post Luigi, and it included your big white spoiler area with what you wrote, but there are alot of scenes and plot notes you mentioned elsewhere that nobody watching the trailers would know, so these elements won't be a surprise to them;
---Possible Spoiler; Highlight to Read
--"Banner is now trying to control his transformations with the help of a judo master who teaches him meditative breathing, counting each day since the last transformation (158 at the beginning of the film)"
--"Bruce ekes out a living at a soft drink bottling factory in Brazil, alongside coworkers that include impossibly beautiful women and the usual churls who threaten to make Banner lose control"
--"After his blood finds its way into one of the soda bottles however, and is imbibed by a unwitting consumer (who bears a striking resemblance to a certain Marvel writer"
--"while simultaneously trying to reunite with Betty (now dating a certain comic book psychologist), and searching for a cure with the help of someone whose presence in the film seems an obvious indication of who the villain will be in the next film."
--"The Hulk, despite his capacity for great violence, never hurts anyone who doesn’t try to hurt him, wishes to be left alone, and even protects those that Banner cares for."
--" “Don’t make me hungry……you wouldn’t like me when I’m hungry.”
--"For example, after sticking that tiny camera under Banner’s door in Brazil, only to have the dog bite at it, I would’ve stuck a tube of knockout gas under the door in order to render Banner unconscious."
--"After Ross captures Banner, Banner is seen being hauled on a stretcher into Ross’ helicopter, completely restrained"
--"After Ross removes Banner from Sterns’ lab, Blonsky appears, and forces Sterns to transform him into the Abomination."
As you can see, a little too much detail, which would have been completely appropriate a week after the opening, but you and I were lucky enough to see sneak peaks.
The first first, second, and fifth passages are not spoilers. Minor details that do not impact the plot are not spoilers. The fifth passage does go to character, but it isn't a plot spoiler, and is simply consistent with what everyone already knows about the character from the previous incarnations of the character (with the exception of the Ultimate version). The information contained in those passages is a part of the necessary description of setting and premise, and theme inherent to any movie review.
It didn't occur to me that the next two were spoilers, especially the first one, since I kept it vague, which is why I removed the spoiler warnings that I had originally put there, but maybe you're right. I restored the warnings and formatted them in white.
I also think you're right about the last four, which are more obviously spoilers, so ditto for them. I also hid another passage that you did not mention that I think might be a spoiler.
I also formatted the appearance of them in your post in white, too. I hope that's okay.
I apologize if I hurt anyone's enjoyment of the film.
Okay, so Blonsky is said to have been born in Russia. Fine. He must’ve come over to the U.S. early enough to be in the U.S. Army, which is why he’s seen in an American military dress uniform at one point when walking a corridor with General Ross. But why does he have a Cockney accent? Couldn’t Tim Roth, who’s a good actor, have affected an American one?
After telling us he was born in Russia, didn't they say he moved to England and was a British soldier?
Also, when listing the homages in the movie, don't forget the purple stretch pants.
Much better than Ang Lee's movie, in that it has more concern about telling a sensible story than impressing us with wacky visuals. The fact that it is able to take part in a larger universe also helps.
After seeing this movie, I realized that this is a better way to tell an origin story, especially for story like this. With the flashbacks, we got all the pertinent information without having to sit through it in real time waiting for anything to happen onscreen, especially compared to Ang Lee's version, where we were all unconscious by the time the Hulk appeared.
So, did anyone else think, in the beginning, that Mr. Blue was Reed Richards? I know they can't directly connect, since the rights to the Fantastic Four characters are in Fox's hands, but a sideways reference like this would have been a cool way to connect the universes more subtly. Of course, once it became clear that we were going to see Mr. Blue, I knew they were going in a different direction, but I still kind of wished they hadn't.
Nits:
After gaining access to the computer lab at Culver University, Bruce accesses the network to find the data from his experiments. When he finds it gone, he double clicks an icon on the desktop to open an encrypted chat and immediately connects to Mr. Blue. A) Why in the world would this computer have an encrypted chat program installed? b) How does the program know to connect to Mr. Blue, or to label Bruce's text as Mr. Green?
What exactly was in the grenades that the soldiers shot at Bruce on the glass covered walkway? I would have though a sleeping gas or the like would have been in them, but all they seemed to do was make a cloud of smoke for the Hulk to burst out from.
Culver University has a whole lot of ramps in their open park land. At least I assume so since both the hummers with the roof-mounted 50 calibers that arrive after the battle are airborne for at least a second or two.
While the Hulk is destroying the first hummer that attacks him, the vehicle appears to be completely empty. Where did everyone go, and how did they get out?
>No, that's not what's in the movie. In the film, he is indeed using gamma radiation as part of a military experiment into what General Ross calls "bio-force enhancement", which Emil Blonsky understands as "Super Soldiers". No mention of him working on cures for things is ever made, though I think that was the idea in the 2003 film.
-Luigi Novi
Actually, Ross says that Banner was unaware of the larger project, but thought he was only working on creating some sort of radiation resistance.
A couple of more nods to the original TV series - "Culver", the name of the college in the film was the name of the fictional Sacremento research institute where Bill Bixby's David Banner worked at the beginning of the Hulk TV series.
There is also a college student named Jack McGee identified as a journalism major. Jack McGee was of course Jack Colvin's investigative reporter character. McGee was created especially for the TV show, although the character later appeared in the Hulk syndicated comic strip credited to Stan Lee and Larry Lieber, as well as in Peter David Hulk novelizations.
Major Spoilers Below
Well, Dustin and Luigi covered most of what I was going to say, but...
“Great movie! Now THIS is how you make a Hulk film!” -Luigi
100% seconded!!!
“Why does Banner have to jump from the helicopter to trigger a transformation? Can’t he just slap himself or try running in place to raise his adrenaline? When this tactic was used at the end of The Ultimates in 2003, the reason that the soldiers on the copter did this was because Banner was doped up to the eyeballs with the antidote, and needed a trigger that could overcome this. Was this mentioned in this scene too? If so, I missed it.
” - Luigi
Because of the potential cure/antidote that was still in his system?
“Okay, so Blonsky is said to have been born in Russia. Fine. He must’ve come over to the U.S. early enough to be in the U.S. Army, which is why he’s seen in an American military dress uniform at one point when walking a corridor with General Ross. But why does he have a Cockney accent? Couldn’t Tim Roth, who’s a good actor, have affected an American one?” - Luigi
As Dustin mentioned, in the opening intro for Blonsky, Ross is told he's on loan from the RAF. Thus, the British accent.
“With the flashbacks, we got all the pertinent information without having to sit through it in real time waiting for anything to happen onscreen, especially compared to Ang Lee's version, where we were all unconscious by the time the Hulk appeared.
So, did anyone else think, in the beginning, that Mr. Blue was Reed Richards?”- Dustin
Yes, and yes, respectively. :-)
I don't know about you, but despite the fact that the villain is TREMENDOUSLY obviously set up for the next film's villain, after sitting through the credits of this and Iron Man, I am so much more incredibly psyched about the apparent epic crossover event movie they appear to be setting up... now that's the way to do Marvels films; with extreme internal continuity and many crossovers!!!! :-)
If he was on loan from the RAF, why did he have an American military uniform on?
I dunno! I'm not saying it makes sense- that's just what I thought I heard. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
I'm not a military guy, but maybe he was given a temporary commission while he was working with the Air Force. They can do that, can't they?
I'm still wondering how they transported the Abomination out of there after that fight. And how they're holding him.
Very carefully.
I went with a friend, and he was under the impression that the Abomination was dead. I just figured he was beat to unconsciousness.
Since General Ross was explicitly Army, why did his helicopter say "USAF" on the side? Sure, he could have borrowed it from the Air Force, but wouldn't the Army have something that would suit his needs?
NNAN, but it sure was. . .oddly convenient how the crash of the helicopter apparently killed or incapacitated everyone in it---including people who were actually strapped in---except for the Rosses, who escaped without serious damage.
It's a standard issue in comics, but where does the Hulk's extra mass come from? When Banner partially Hulks out in Stern's lab, the table noticeably buckles from in the magically increased mass on it.
Just saw this movie last night on DVD. For the record, Rick Jones is mentioned in the film. His name appears on a list of Bruce Banner's known associates.
At the Culver campus, one of the students watching the Hulk fight Ross' Hulkbusters is Jim Wilson. Wilson was a major member of the Incredible Hulk comic book supporting cast members back in the '70s. IIRC, he died of AIDS.
The movie has several references to Captain America. Not only are there several comments about the Super Soldier serum, but the cannister Ross takes the SSS out of (to administer to Blonsky) has the name of "Dr. Reinman" on it. Reinman was the scientist who created the Super Soldier serum that turned Steve Rogers into Captain America in the comics.
IMDb's FAQ for this film claims that a man can be swinging around during the fight between the Hulk and the Abomination. Most notably, just after the Greenskin Goliath lands in Harlem and confronts the Abomination. The camera shifts to Blonsky. To the right of the screen, in the smoke, a figure can be seen moving. Played at normal speed, it does look like it could be Daredevil or Spider-Man swinging by. Zoom in on the image and watch it frame by frame, it's clear that it can't be either. The man is definitely wearing slacks and is falling. I assume it's someone the Abomination has just swept away from him.
One difference between this version of the Hulk and the comic book is the lack of "the madder Hulk gets, the stronger he gets." At least I didn't see any evidence of it. Had it been in existence, I think we would have seen Jade Jaws gradually start hitting the Abomination harder and harder. Instead, the Abomination was clearly the stronger of the two combatants.
Wonder what Bruce's blood did to Stan Lee after he drank it from the bottle of guarana?
"Hulk Smash!"
Info on imdb is added by users without any editorial control or oversight, and is often unreliable, especially things like Trivia. Wikipedia does not allow it to be used as a source for this reason.
There was no explicit "madder-stronger" premise, but it couldn't been implicit.
It killed him. I think they said that.
Info on imdb is added by users without any editorial control or oversight, and is often unreliable, especially things like Trivia. Wikipedia does not allow it to be used as a source for this reason. - Luigi
Oh, I know. That's why I was looking for it myself. BTW, it wasn't in IMDb's "Trivia" section for the Incredible Hulk that the swinging man was cited. It was in the FAQ. And for what it's worth, there are still people who don't think Wikipedia is all that reliable either.
There was no explicit "madder-stronger" premise, but it couldn't been implicit. - Luigi, part 2
Huh? Do you mean, "it could've been implicit"? In the first movie, the Ang Lee movie, it was. The size of the Hulk changed. In this film, we see no apparent changes in strength levels or size (which I'm glad they got rid of the size change. That was stupid.) From what I could tell, Hulk stayed at the same strength level throughout his fight with the Abomination.
It killed him. I think they said that.
If so, I must've missed it. It also makes Stan Lee unusual. Of the three we see exposed to Bruce Banner's blood, he's the only to die from it. Sterns and Blonsky mutated. Of course, the latter two had Banner's blood injected into their own blood streams. Stan drank it. That might've made a difference.
"Hulk Smash!"
While the Hulk is destroying the first hummer that attacks him, the vehicle appears to be completely empty. Where did everyone go, and how did they get out?
If an eight foot tall mass of enraged green muscle was running at you, trust me you'd suddenly learn how to exit a car without opening the door.
The reliability of Wikipedia is predicated on the quality of the individual article, which in turn is predicated on the sources cited for its info. A Featured Article, for example, which is peer-reviewed, is certainly reliable compared to a completely unsourced stub filled with POV or original research. It depends on the article. Imdb has no such distinctions.
How do you know there was no change in strength levels? As he was battling the Abomination, they could've each gotten stronger, and the only one who could've told would've been the two of them, since they were on the receiving end of each others' punches.
Well, yeah, and Spidey, Daredevil and the FF never died from radiation poisoning.....
IMDB does have some kind of review process. I've submitted material to them before and had to wait to get it approved.
So have I. But a waiting process does not necessarily indicate a verification process.