My "nit-picks" are as numerically proceeds:
1) The Joker's eyes are shut in the paused film in which he is threatening and challenging Batman. However, they are then open when Batman glares back at the paused film.
2) How do two automatic guns that solely aim forward shoot a sequenced fusillade from left to right into an open-close door?
3) The clown balloon commences as being in front of the float carrying the Joker and then miraculously appears behind him in all following scenes.
4) The neck of the clown balloon enlarges but is clearly seen as being of normal size when Batman commandeers all the balloons with his Batplane.
5) When the Batplane targets on the Joker and descends to blow him away, the Joker opens his jacket and then consequently opens his jacket again in the next scene to reach for his long-barreled handgun.
6) Both wings pertaining to the Batplane are obliterated during its crash-landing, but one wing inexplicably appears intact when the Batplane collides into the cathedral's stairs.
7) After Batman is pummeled by the sunglasses-wearing African-American accomplice to the Joker, who we shall hereby identify as SWAAAJ, and is lunged into the immense bell, which I thought was previously released from its hinges by the Joker, thus apparently plummeting to his death, Batman clamps his legs around the neck of SWAAAJ and thrusts him downward. During this scene, you have a glimpse of Batman letting go of the ledge. It is a long way down, Batsy!
8) If the Joker is close enough to and capable of so easily clasping Batman's and Vicki Vale's wrists and bringing them down, which definitely requires some upper body strength, how could Batman and Vicki Vale not notice him when peering over the ledge?
During the fight in the chemical plant, Batman glides through the air towards Jack Napier, to knock the gun out of his hand. You can clearly see the wire suspending him. Also, you can see a wire lowering Batman into the museum when he crashes through the skylight. Or were these supposed to be Bat-cables?
Oops! Almost forgot. Detective Eckhart(sp?) has time for a quick shave during the chemical plant fight. When he tells the cops outside to "shoot to kill," he has a five o'clock shadow. But later inside, he is clean-shaven.
Also, Vicki's name is spelled incorrectly on the Time magazine cover.
And several painting in the museum are defaced and are later seen intact.
And, not a nit, but an in-joke... The sketch of the Man-Bat that is handed to Knox as a joke is signed by Bob Kane.
Reading the comic adaption of the movie purchased by DC, we find the ending is different! After the Joker does his King Kong imitation, the police see Batman on the street and chase him. Batman ducks into an alley, but a cop catches him--and finds Alexander Knox, whom Batman apparently threw his costume on.
Regarding that fact, why is Knox is in this film? It is competition for Vicki? Hardly. Comic relief? Not really. A sidekick? Please.
When the (soon to be) Joker starts destroying
equipment in the plant, a paper printout
blows (or gets sucked) out of a
control console. Exactly what's causing this?
When the (soon to be) Joker starts destroying
equipment in the plant, a paper printout
blows (or gets sucked) out of a
control console. Exactly what's causing this?
When the (soon to be) Joker starts destroying
equipment in the plant, a paper printout
is blown (or gets sucked) out of a
control console. Exactly what's causing this?
A couple things I found noteworthy about
this movie:
This movie is a lot less gothic and 'cartoony'
than the next 3.
Some of the machine sound effects are the same
ones used in Blood (a Doom-style PC game that
came out about 8 years later. :)
NANJAO. Keaton made the best Batman. Why? Well, let me give you a bit of background... When I first heard Keaton was going to play the Caped Crusader, I thought TPTB were crazy. But when he puts on the Batsuit, and all you can see are his eyes, he gets "the look" down perfect. You know, the "just-this-side-of-psycho" look, which is what the Dark Knight was all about... Clooney and Kilmer were too cartoony, but Keaton had the 'tude down cold.
My vote for the best Batman is still Adam West. He *IS* the bat (IMHO).
I was referring to the (new) movies. Adam West also did a Batman movie in the '60s.
If you just go with the new movies that Keaton is the best Batman, but if you take into account all of the shows and movies, then West is the best.
I might even make a case that Keaton's Batman is more true to Bob Kane's original vision than West.
Danny Elfman's music rocks in this film!
Hardly important. Danny Elfman's musci always rocks. ALWAYS! ALWAYS! PILLS! PILLS!
The shootout in the chemical plant is the first and last time that the Gotham City PD displays any trace of competence. Batman would be able to retire if Commissioner Gordon would stop filling his ranks with rejects from Clown College.
Since everyone is astounded by the thought of a "6 foot bat" haunting Gotham City by night, it's safe to assume that the idea of "Batman" is a new one to Gotham's citizens. That means no comic books, no Hanna-Barbera cartoons, and particularly, no Adam West series.
When the Joker is staging his parade, he notes, "I'M giving away free money. Where's Batman? At home, washing his tights." Having never seen Adam West's portrayal of Batman, where did the joker come up with the idea of Batman in tights, given that Batman's worn nothing but body armor throughout the movie?
Perhaps it was a subtle implication that Batman is trying to squeeze in on Superman's turf? I don't know.
He had tights in the Adam West show. The script was written before the production design crew had designed Batman's costume. Either no one realized that the line created a nit, or they thought that they line sounded cool so they left it in because they couldn't come up with anything better.
By JC on Saturday, May 08, 1999 - 03:35 pm:
During the fight in the chemical plant, Batman glides through the air towards Jack Napier, to knock the gun out of his hand. You can clearly see the wire suspending him. Also, you can see a wire lowering Batman into the museum when he crashes through the skylight. Or were these supposed to be Bat-cables?
LN: Of course they were cables. What did you think they were? Batman doesn't fly. The cables were internal, not external.
Allow me to compare the 1960's Batman with this Batman....
Romero Vs. Nicholson as the Joker....TIE...both had the part down pat!
West Vs. Keaton....Keaton has the better costume..West was wearing a Kleenex compared to Keaton's body armor
Neil Hamilton Vs. Pat Hingle (Commissoner Gordon)
Hingle...at least he WENT to the scene of the crime instead of cowering behind his desk!
Thank goodness there was no Chief O'Hara in this movie...the original was a blitering idiot!
Alan Napier Vs. Michael Gough (Alfred) TIE...both men had the role down pat!
Thank goodness again there was no Aunt Harriet in the movies!
Someone asked what roel Knox had in the flim, well he is a leftover from an early script, in the script I read he was a great character
Spoilers for the script
he had some history with Vicki and figured out Batmans idenity himself, saved the city and was killed by the Jokers men.
End spoilers.
The consol was exploding I am sure that would blow the paper and Jack Napier could have pressed the button to get it to print out.
Did anyone else think it was a little bit odd to have Vicky Vale pick up a bowl of pop corn and begin eating it when the Joker and Bruce Wayne begin their scene in her apartment?
I thought I read something about, (sorry I can't remember the actresses name, brain cramp I guess.)
"Vicky Vale" didn't know what to do during Micheal Keaton and Jack Nicholsons' scene so thinking she was off camera she began eating.
I know someone out there can correct me on this, and if so please do; this is something I always thought was a little odd, but never could figure out why instead of running for the hills she decides to get a little snack.
Kim Basinger.
She could be comfort eating, if The Joker showed up at your door wouldn't you.
When Bruce picks up the silver platter at Vale's house, you can see the dent from the bullet that is yet to come! (Wow! an ESP silver platter!)
I don't know where else to post this, but it's official: Christian Bale (Empire of the Sun, American Psycho) is signed on to play Batman in the latest Batman movie Batman: Intimidation, slated for release on July 4th, 2005.
As long as they keep Joel Schumacher FAR AWAY from it, it'll be an excellent movie.
Also...bring back Danny Elfman for music & not the other guy!
Just a thought: if you were the richest person in Gotham City, wouldn't your picture and biography be one of the most known items among all Gothamites? I found it curious that Vicki Vale knew next to squat about Bruce Wayne, including what he looks like, as well as most of the press. However, in Batman Begins, everyone knows he's returned to Gotham City in less than 24 hours becase, as Carmine Falcone puts it, he'd have to go miles away for no one to know him.
Becase=because. Typo.
Vicki was from out of town, but you have a good point in that she's a reporter, and would likely be able to recognize a celeb faster than most of us. Would you recognize Steve Jobs or Michael Eisner if they sat next to you on a plane?
I would. And I'm not even a reporter.
When the Joker makes his first appearance as he comes out of the shadows and he takes off his hat you can clearly see a big purple smudge on the left side of his neck. I never noticed that before for some reason and only found out about it when watching the Batman Special Edition 2-disc DVD set tonight.
Not so original story from the Original Batman Series...
The idea of Joker defacing the artwork comes from the episode "Pop Goes The Joker"
Okay, Vicky Vale is an experienced professional photographer who I'm sure has had to clandestinely photograph someone on more than one occasion. Does she seriously not know how to turn the flash off on her camera?
I'm wondering if the scene where the Joker shoots down the BatWing is a homage to the movie Patton?
The best line in this movie is from Nicholson's Joker - "This town needs an enema"!
About the machine guns on the Batwing.....
....I thought Batman did not like bullet guns because his parents were killed by one (that's why you never see Batman use a regular gun at any time). Also, Batman's aim was off, or was this intentional to scare the Joker and for what reason?
Also, I think it was stup|d to have the Joker as the killer of Batman's parents. It probaly made sense to the writers at the time scince the Joker is the chief villian, but it does not seem right to me. Thankfuly, the corrected this in the 2000's Batman movies.
NANJAO When Joker is preparing to climb to the top of Gotham's cathedral, he radios his men to bring transportation in 10 minutes. Just over ten minutes later, they arrive in an helicopter. Kudos to the director and editor to have timed it so well.