As to how the Defiant can has a cloaking device, wasn't it developed jointly with the Klingons during some treaty period or
something?
Marco A Riojas asks why the Defiant has a cloak when the Federation has a treaty against it and you say the creators changed their minds, basically. I would say that reason is partially right.
It was established in the DSN episode that installed the cloak that the Romulans had agreed to give the Defiant a cloak, with a Romulan operator, to be used only in the Gamma quadrant, in exchange for Federation information on the Dominion. So the cloak is a legal installation. (The show quickly dropped the Romulan operator, for cost savings reasons I assume. I always thought that was a missed oportunity, they could have developed her into a Garak type continuing charactor with some great story oportunities in my opinion).
The whim of the creators comes in because they now use the cloak in the Alpha quadrant, without explaining it on the show. They just dropped the
limitation.
Marco A. Riojas was curious about the Defiant's cloaking device. The episode "Defiant" has a Romulan charachter who mentions that the Defiant's cloak was a loaner from the Rommies, who belived that it was in the Empire's best intrest to let the Feds have a cloaking ship this one time
by the wormhole ..yada yada ya..
It's a paper thin plot device, but that's how we have a cloakable ship in every episode.
With all the comings and goings of Starfleet personnel, surely someone is going to get access to this cloaking device and somehow manufacture another one? It's a wonder that Eddington chap didn't do it...
Forget the cloaking device the Romlulans gave them. Whatever happened to that super-deluxe cloaking device featured in "Pegasus?" It sure would make the war with the Dominion short if Dominion weapons passed right threw phased starships.
Well, if Starfleet was all nice and good about the treaty they would have destroyed it. But I think there's at least a couple at Starfleet Command who probably wanted to hold on to it (Admiral Necheyev springs to mind).
I suppose if they put phase cloaks on Federation starships it would seriously annoy the Romulans. After all, the Romulans nearly blew up one of their ships about ten years after Star Fleet had got a working prototype. (See 'The Next Phase' as well as 'The Pegasus').
I always thought losing T'Rul (?) was a bad idea too. Too many plots just thrown out the window.
You can't seriously believe that the Feds don't have cloaking technology? They have had since Kirks time, they just promised not to use it. It's not like the Feds have to find one, or have it loaned to them.
Just wondering: Why dosen't the Maquis use a cloaking device? They don't worry about treatys too much.
All this talk of cloaking devices brings up a question: (Although I'm not sure it's place is here) How come whenever the Federation goes on the offensive it doesn't even try to hide from the enemy? Examples: When Sisko's fleet went to DS9 to retake it, they just go and waltz right into a large enemy fleet and do not even try to go around! (Space is big, after all.) When they were in the actual battle, how come the Defiant didn't cloak and go around the action? The rest of the fleet battling was the perfect distraction! Obviously Starfleet Academy does not incorporate cloaking devices and their use into their curriculum.
This post doesn't have anything to do with cloaking devices, but since this board refers to the Defiance (actually Defiant), I decided to post my query here. DS9 supposedly operates on a 26 hour day. What about the Defiant? Does the Defiant operate on a 24 or 26 hour day?
I think it runs a 24 hour day, just like other sf starship. (I think the TNG tech manual says so.)
It would make more sense if it ran a 26 hour day. I doubt the TNG tech manual says so, as the Defiant didn't exist when it was written. If your refering to the DS9 manual, I don't believe that they mention it there either.
I checked both manuals and I can't find the part I was thinking of. I'm sorry about the mistake.
Yes, I think that T'Pul not being written into stories was a huge disappointment, but remember the third season DS9 episode, "Visionary." The Romulans tried to blow up the station and destroy the wormhole. My guess is that the Federation diplomats probably blackmaled them to allow them to keep the device on the Defiant in exchange for not starting a war.
Make More Sense Since A Bajoran Day Is About 25-26 Hours Long And DS9 IS A Bajoran Station Runned By The Bajorans And Starfleet... I Heard This Somewhere... I Forget...
Wow, 3 years since anyone has posted anything to here.
When they were in the actual battle, how come the Defiant didn't cloak and go around the action? The rest of the fleet battling was the perfect distraction!
A conversation from Sacrifice of Angels
Garak: woulden't this be a good time to cloak?
O'Brien: Cloaking generators fried!
So, basically they coulden't cloak if even they wanted to. I suposse they could have done it earlier, but would you really want to cloak with ships all over you firing like crazy? Remember, cloaking doesen't always work against the dominion.
The Maquis did have cloaking devices, remember during the war the Klingons gave them some?
What i would like is continuation of the 24th say 3 or 4 years after DS9 which carrys on with the setup created here.
Maybe it could explore such things as this because the polictical nature of the Alpha and Beta Quadrants have been shook up. Its wrong to ignore them without having an outcome.