So is this Star Trek's Greatest Moments or just a lousy clip show?

Lousy clip show. I voted for "Best of Both Worlds" for best episode, but I can't believe that the DS9 nomination was as weak as "Trials and Tribble-ations." Have they never heard of, oh, say, "In the Pale Moonlight?" I'd still have voted for Best of Both Worlds, but I would have had to think about it.

Let me get this straight. The *Borg Queen* was a good enough babe to put on the show, but *Jadzia Dax* wasn't?

They should have had "Resistance is futile" spoken by one of three people: Locutus, Data, or the full Collective.

I think that the movie Khan was a much more impressive villain than the TV Khan. The style that the film was shot in seemed to enhance the character much more than the show.

I am NOT happy with this so far. They're turning it into a farce and relying heavily on Jason Alexander's name to carry the thing. I just want to see if Jadzia will get a mention, and what episode will win. (If something other than Best of Both Worlds wins, I will commit felonious acts.)

Evil Kirk looks like a woman in the first shot from "The Enemy Within."

This belongs under "The Raven," but I'm *real* sure that Tuvok can dodge a phaser beam.

…And yet, seeing Locutus again made up for it.

This special would be vastly improved, IMHO, if they would play the episode that wins best episode after the special. Instead we get NextGen+Voyager. Joy, bliss, happiness, and serenity.

Bloopers were good, but not enough of them.

The DeForest Kelley tribute was nice. Too bad the rest of the show couldn't have been this good.

I've got two things to say to Paramount. #1: Don't let Jason Alexander on Trek again. #2: The next time you feel the compulsion to do a special, make it more tasteful.

I agree, there should have been more bloopers. But , you have to admit, they were funny. Exspecially Tuvok's death scene. Now, that was funny!
The Deforest Kelley tribute was nice, I agree on that as well. My eyes got watery.
I'll admit, Jason's and friends little skit was a bit wooden, but I thought it was a nice tribute.

Yah, I liked Tuvok's death. I always imagined that the temptation would get too great sometimes.

Good Lord, this was lame. I'm mostly peeved that my beloved DS9 got basically ignored, and then the clips they did show were the bad ones, like all of those Fire Caves scenes from the finale. And I watched the host sketches with the sound turned off...

The DeForest Kelley tribute and the bloopers were definitely the highlights, though. I liked Tim Russ' Nick Bottom routine, and Q asking Sisko "Or what? You'll ravish me?"

Other thoughts...

I think "Trials and Tribble-ations" got voted best DS9 because it's the most accessible to non-Niners. It should have been "Pale Moonlight," though, or "Duet."

Moral of the story: Fans love Borg and Tribbles. At least, those who vote in startrek.com polls do. I always thought BoBW was a wee bit overrated, myself, but it's probably the best choice of the four nominees.

Right on about Jadzia, Matthew! And about Khan, for that matter.

The Gul Dukat clip in the villain montage was a very bad choice. Why not show one from the days when he was interesting and complex, rather than a red-eyed cardboard villain? (And DS9's villains are all a lot cooler than Species 8472...)

I was surprised they didn't have a "Behind the Lines" clip in the "good guys go bad" section.

I'm spending way too much time on this... :-)

The only part of the whole show that jumped above the •••• level on my entainment level were the outtakes/bloopers. I would much rather have had an whole of bloopers than Alexander's horrible sketches.

And Tuvok's death was definately the highlight. (My favorite part was spinning on the seldom seen chair.)

This show treated Trek like garbage. My God, I can't believe this insufferable •••• that Paramount tries to shove down our throats by putting the title "Star Trek" on it. Next thing we know Playboys gonna have a special on Trek...my God, I cannot believe this -- and WHAT THE HELL was Paramount thinking?! If anything at all, it's Star Trek that is being victimized by the low-lifes at the studio for wanting money and good ratings. They better be careful, or they're really gonna kill the franchise. The only good was the bloopers and DeKelley tribute, but even that deserved to be more emotional. Ugh, I'm upset, so I'm gonna go and write my hate mail to Paramount...

P.S. I say they give the Trek franchise to Dreamworks Pictures, maybe they'll know how to RESPECT Star Trek...
Later...

It was pretty bad, though Alexander *DID* have Kirk down pat...

There was ONE, count them ONE Jadzia reference in the show (during the DeForest Kelley tribute).

Actually they showed a photo of Jadzia, quickly, during the title sequence and during the dumb flashing images between bloopers.

I found it interesting that they used a variation of the Classic theme for the title sequence, rather than using any of the boring themes from DS9 & Voyager, as well as Kirk's voiceover. (Are you listening Berman?)

In the voiceover did 'Kirk' say they were in sector 47 something something something? I thought Earth was sector 001?

I thought Jason did a good job with Shatner's mannerisms. The voice was passable. Dana Gould was just wrong as McCoy.

Why was Qpid shown as part of the Time Travel sequence? It was a fantasy created by Q, not time travel.

How would Kirk know of the Borg?

The Ultimate One Liners was really, really weak.

They only had a limited time to show bloopers so why did they have to show DeLancie (Q) blowing his line 3 times? Even if it was three different takes, I wish they had shown 2 different bloopers instead.

I thought it interesting that a Star Trek clip show would show clips from The Big Valley & some other western.

How would Kirk & Spock recognize Voyager's bridge & why did they beam there at the end? (And where was Voyager's crew? Even if this was the night shift, Harry should have sounded intruder alert.;-)

'Kirk' says, "Star Trek lives. Star Trek survives." Hasn't seen many episodes of Voyager, has he?

Scott -- One reference is still one more than most of the DS9 cast got!

And Why In H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks Was Seven Not With The Ultimate Beauty Segment??? I Know People Bash Her Character But Seven Is Still A Beauty! AND Kes Also!!
Did They Show Jadzia In The Ultimate Beauty? I Forgot...
Highlights Were The DeForest Kelley Tribute And The Outtakes... At Least We Know Even The Q Can Flub Lines! Ironically Enough, Later That Night Here In Utah, They Showed "The Q And The Grey"... You Know The Line Which De Lancie Flubbed...

From http://www.startrek.com/ :

Here they are... the results of the poll for the Ultimate Trek!


STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION

The Best of Both Worlds

Picard is assimilated by the Borg and forced to lead a devastating attack against the Enterprise and the Federation.

THE WINNER - with 47% of the votes


STAR TREK: VOYAGER

Scorpion

Faced with a more dangerous enemy than the Borg, Janeway prepares to make a deal with the devil, and gains a new Borg crewmember.

2nd place - with 24% of the votes

{Note from me: While I will admit that "Scorpion" is a good episode by Voyager's low standards, I don't agree that it is better than Deep Space Nine.}

STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE

Trials and Tribble-ations

Sisko and his fellow officers travel back in time to a pivotal moment in the history of Captain Kirk and the original Starship Enterprise.

3rd place - with 19% of the votes

{Note from me: While I like this episode, I agree that "In the Pale Moonlight" or "Duet" are both better episodes. I would have voted ITPM over "Best of Both Worlds" (even though I like that TNG episode a lot).}


STAR TREK -- the original series

The Trouble With Tribbles

A territorial dispute with the Klingon Empire is complicated by the infiltration aboard ship of furry little creatures that rapidly multiply.

4th place - with 10% of the votes

1. Shatner's star is not located in front of a lingerie store, but is just outside Mann's Chinese theatre.

2. That was not NBC they ended up at.

3. Using "McCoy's" death as a segue into the DeForest Kelley tribute was quite possibly the tackiest, most insensitive thing I have ever seen.

4. The name "Simon Billig" was in the opening credits. Who did he play? This is the actor who used to play Lt. Hogan on Voyager, before he was eaten by a giant worm.

I loved the bloopers. The should have had more!!!
Aparently Tim Russ likes to joke around. They showed 2 clips of him fooling around...the death scene one and the other were he's following a little girl to a cave and he runs away saying "I ain't going in there!!!!" LOL

Mike...Are you serious??? the best of both worlds won with HOW MUCH PERCENT??? 47??? That is so weird! :-)

I agree that this wasn't as great as it was made out to be. It was OK but not something that I would buy the tape of (like they want us to).

I did like the outtakes, I wish they would show more of them.

I found it interesting that two of the episodes that were in the final round of voting had to do with Tribbles and the other two with the Borg. Let's hope they don't try to combine the two.(I don't even what to think about it!)

Reistance is futile. Humans will be assimilated. Klingons will be annihilated. Hisssssssssss.

This was pretty awful all the way around. To think I rushed home, wolfed down dinner just to see this. I don't know about everybody else, but I am sick and tired of the MTV influenced pacing of TV shows. All they did was flash images from different shows all over the place.

When they did the 30th anniversary and the SCIFI channel did their TOS reruns, at least they took the time to talk about the various scenes and history of the franchise.

Jason Alexandar has to be the biggest idiot I have ever seen as an actor. I thought he was horrible on Seinfeld, I hate when he is on Leno or other shows and has to show off the fact that he can sing, and I don't like his lame Kirk imitations.

I definitely would have preferred to see an actual Star Trek actor hosting this too. At least they might have added some kind of dignity to it. The Deforrest Kelley tribute was way too rushed, again that MTV style of TV, which stripped it of any dignity.

At least the subsequent Voyager episode was decent. In fact it was a pretty good one at that.

Tony: Jason Alexander is alot better person, than you make him out to be. Granted, it would of been better for a Star Trek actor to host the show, but atleast they had an actor who was proud to be a Star Trek fan, so he would most apt for the role than someone who just says lines as a host. I also agree with everyone els, he does have Shatner down pat!

This doesn't really belong here, but what the hey...

When 20/20 did it's most interesting people of 1999, they interviewed King Abdullah(?) of Jordan, and they showed the clip of him on Voyager.

Back on topic...
I thought the tribute to DeForest Kelley was wonderful, but too short. The rest of it... who knows. I did like the way that the ersatz Spock kept neckpinching Jason Alexander.

Too bad Spock couldn't have neckpinched the writers of this drivel before it ever got past the planning stages. It was AWFUL. The writing was juvenile, and the acting even worse. If I were a Trek actor and someone had asked me to do this, I'd have hit warp 10 going the other direction.

I agree that the segue into the DeForest Kelley tribute was tacky and insensitive.

I can't believe I spent an hour watching this. I kept waiting for someone to pop up and say "Surprise! This is all a joke! The REAL show is going to start now." I guess TPTB figure they can slap the name "Star Trek" on anything and we'll watch it.

Well, didn't you?

Hated the show overall, espec the godawful acting and lame-o writing Jason and Co. had to work with, plus it was too much and should've relied more on clips and perhaps rememberances from any cast members of any of the various series. I liked the opening (though it was overly long), De's tribute, and the outtakes, and the fact that they had real TOS phasers or else damned good facsimiles. I thought that was pretty cool cuz I've a soft spot for TOS phasers and would love one or two myself.

This ranks right up there with the Star Wars Holiday Special, but at least there weren't any wookies in it.

In addition to the "Ultimate Beauty" segment, I think they should have had a "Best Looking Guys on Trek" segment. (Hey, what's good for the goose...) ;)

Yeah, but since "officially", nobody is studlier than Kirk/Picard/Riker/Sisko, you Vortaphiles (shudder) wouldn't get your wish... Nor you Kang-philes..

And where was Uhura?
I expected to see her in Ultimate Beauty or in the one-liners thing.

Let's just say, the TPTB behind this program didn't research well enough to show clips that should of been put on this show.

ScottN -- *grin*

Actually, I think Bashir is supposed to be the official DS9 Stud. He never really did all that much for me on the studliness front, though. (Then again, I have rather odd taste, as you may know.)

I agree with Cheryl in principle, though.

The show looked and felt like it was written by some hack who never saw the show and hates it and put together third-hand information. I mean, Kirk, Spock and McCoy from the original series on Voyager's bridge???

The McCoy death scene leading into De Kelley's tribute was the MOST TASTLESS thing I have ever seen on television. (I know it has mentioned by several people already, but it deserves mention again and again.)

The one thing I found amusing was "Spock"'s line when they walked into the lingerie place: "Has it been seven years already?" That was my one laugh for the hour.

The rest of the skits were useless and should have been trashed in favor of minimal narration. I preferred the narration of the Sci-Fi channel's "Special Edition" presentation of TOS. You at least wanted to listen to it to learn something from the people who did it.

My theory as to why pseudo-Kirk, Spock & McCoy ended up on Voyager's bridge: because it's the only set left available. Heaven forbid they should put any effort into making it realistic!

I thought there was a copy of the TOS's bridge in the Smithsonian that was used when Scotty was on NextGen. Wasn't it used in that show? But then they would have had to fly to D.C. and Paramount wouldn't have made as much from this rip-off.

Talk about PAL: "The show that was 33 years in the making" looked like it was put together on a Saturday afternoon.

The whole attitude seemed to be: "Let's throw some clips together and some lamer-than-Saturday-Night-Live skits and see how many people will tune in. Then we can offer the tape for sale and really see how bad we can screw these people."

I'm glad I found this place to vent. I watched the entire thing thinking, How did this ever get made?

I felt like I was the only one embarrassed when that woman showed up on the Whitewater jury in her uniform. Luckily that is not the case here.

I wouldn't have had as big a problem with the group beaming to the Voyager bridge if:
1. They had the "transmitter computer" on another set somewhere.
2. The extras wore TOS uniforms instead of the Voyager uniforms.

The intro to DeForest's memorial was terrible.

I just saw the Ultmiate trek and have to agree: the
intro to the Kelley memorial was pure *&^&**&^*%*%
very tasteless and crude. I enjoy a bit of dark humor now
and again but that was just tasteless.

Let's light our torches and march to the gates of Paramount!! Die you evil scum!! CHARGE!!!!!!!

And getting in will be easy as long as they have the guard from the show. Otherwise we may actually have to fight our way in.

Gary, the set of TOS, or at least bits of it, are in the Smithsonian, but the set used in "Relics" was specially constructed for that episode. There really was only one or two segments of the bridge set built and they just moved them and redressed them for Picard's shots. Mike Pillar said in an interview somewhere that it was incredibly difficult recreating the bridge as they had no blueprints to work from, but could only design and build it based on looking at the old shows.

It's a shame they put more effort into building that one set for a 3 minute scene than they did in this sad piece of 'special event' drivvel...

I've never understood why television producers, when they put on programs like this, feel that they must use silly playacting to "tie" the show together. Just think how many more clips and outtakes (which I love) could have been put in if they'd just used straight narration (from someone wearing ordinary clothes, instead of ill-fitting uniforms.)

However, just to be fair--Jason Alexander does a pretty good Shatner-Kirk imitation.

(At one point, "Spock" gives "Kirk" a nerve pinch, and I said, "THANK YOU!"

While I voted for "Best of Both Worlds," I don't think it is the best Next Generation episode. My favorite TNG episode is "Yesterday's Enterprise."

While this clip show ummm... err... was lacking... -- yeah, that's it, lacking -- at least it showed the famous 7o9 Alarm Clock from Dilbert for those of us who didn't watch Dilbert's "The Gift".

I couldn't believe it. They show famous one-liners and never have McCoy say "He's dead, Jim!" They did show him saying "He's dead" twice -- you think they could have found a proper clip! This isn't like not being able to show Kirk saying "Beam me up, Scotty", (because he never did). But there are plenty of instances of McCoy's line.

I didn't watch this show until a couple days later, I'd heard how appalling the segments were, I just had to see it to believe it. I could see having very famous stars that you want to see playing Star Trek roles, but Jay Johnston? Dana Gould?? There are a total of 22 seasons of various Star Trek episodes, certainly they could have found more stuff to fill the hour. Wh not have an entire hour of Star Trek Bloopers -- everybody loves those!

Are there any blooper tapes out there? If not that would be an idea that could make $ without alienating all the long time fans. I'd definitely buy one!

I watched this episode with my mom, sis, & her fiance, who's not a ST fan. I kept cringing every time Jason Alexander's part came on. Even Chris (my sis's fiance) thought they were dumb! Now, if a non-ST fan thinks it's dumb, what does that say about the show?????

I've seen ads for a Star Trek blooper tape. Classic, of course. I think it was around $10.

I just had a odd thought about this. Are we supposed to believe that this show featured the Real Kirk, Spock & McCoy, while the people we think of as being Kirk, Spock & McCoy are just *gasp* Actors???

(And if Kirk really does look like that then those alien babes he sleeps with must have really bad eyesight.;-)

'Twere to consider too curiously, to consider so. :-)

Doesn't actor Kirk look like that now?? ;-)

Or, KAM, they don't have any hangups about weight like humans do. After all, all those alien races can't be exactly like us, can they? Jason Alexander said after seeing himself in those skits that he was ashamed of being so outta shape. That's why he's lost some since, but I don't know how much.

You know, it's been over three months since this aired, and I still hate it.

Best blooper: John DeLancie as Q screwing up the word "omnipotent" time and time again.

No-Best Blooper: Tuvok: "I ain't goin' in there!"

I am ashamed to say I taped this show. I always tape Trek specials, and save them for in the future when I'm bored(or out of ST episodes to watch). I popped it in a few days ago and noticed something really dumb compared to all the other bad things in the show; "Kirk" says they're in orbit of Earth-which is now a hot-pink colored planet. Now, I know in TOS they vistited Earth or alternate Earths time and time again, so could they not just get the clip with the ship circling Earth! Not surpring though. Oh well-the doughnut thing was kind of cute.

The best Trek moment? Easy- when Kirk opens the grain doors and the tribbles cover him! LOL