I am a little surprised that there is no board about Heroes yet. Am I just missing it? I was all excited last week to catch the Matrix reference (Cheerleader's Evil Dad (to the Indian Prof. X): "...but that's a common name over their, right? It'd be like Anderson or Smith.") But, alas, no board yet, no cool recap with red letters, no fighting over which brother actually flew...

Darn it, I've been quietly following this site for years. I wanted to be in on the ground floor on something just once!

Jason555

Well, now we know which brother actually flew.

Someone would have to ask Phil to make the board, and then offer to moderate it.

Very cute little shot near the end of this weeks ep... As Hiro's father is leaving, we see the licence plate of his limo... NCC-1701.

And of course, for all you Whovians, you recognize the Invisible Man, right?

I think this show is interesting, even though Marvel had many of these ideas 30+ years ago with the X-Men, but if you're gonna make a show with people on a higher plane of evolution make it either more realistic or more like a comic book. Bending time, flight, going out of phase... are not genetically related traits, and Sylar's abilities are completely ridiculous. A Good show, but I'd probably like it more if the graphic novel aspect was emphasized more and not the drama. It took me a while but I finally realized where I've seen the actress who plays Claire before, she's a facewash spokes-person, Clean & Clear I think.

The time-traveling & creating alternate time-lines was a little confusing.
If I understand it correctly...
Sylar killed Clair & got her power.
Hiro tryed to kill Sylar, but Syler healed himself.
Peter blew up & survived, but everyone thought Sylar blew up & died.

Future Hiro goes back and tells Peter to save the cheerleader & save the world.
Sylar didn't kill Clair, but Hiro didn't kill Sylar.
Peter blew up, etc.
In the future, Peter, Hiro, and others survive.

Present Hiro sees the future again, then goes back to the present.
Hiro kills Sylar who can't heal himself.
Peter blew up, but his bro flys him up out of harms way. They credit the influence of Clair.
Interesting, the people who were survivors in the future would have been toast if Peter wasn't gone.

How much did Hiro change directly or indirectly?

Thank you for explaining it that way Terik. Overall this show has great writing, but when you look at the time-travel aspect it goes all to hell.

I'm a bit confused by Peter's abilities. He can absorb other's abilities in proximity but can't control them without practice, and seemingly can only use one at a time, is that right? However, he's been around Sylar many times and his underlying ability is to understand how things work almost immediately. I'm not sure if either Peter can't use other abilities simultaneously or he's just inexperienced with them, but wouldn't Sylar's help him to do that?

A somewhat disappointing finale to an otherwise great season. I saw no reason why Nathan had to fly Peter away and then both be presumed dead when he's shown to survive into the future, and Nathan could've let go of him at a safe distance. Also, once again the showdown with Sylar did not impress, and why did nobody see him crawl into the sewer?

Regarding Sylar vs Peter:
I think the show established that Sylar is not part of the genetic code.
I recall a flashback when he visited with the elderly Dr before killing him. The Dr told him something about not being special.
So, without the gene code, Sylar can get abilities by looking at a brain and seeing how it works.
Sylar is a genius, but not a 'mutant', and so Peter can't get his power.

If you're referring to the episode/chapter "Six Months Prior" The Doctor simply couldn't find what Sylar's ability was, but he has 'intuitive aptitude.' If Sylar isn't a 'mutant' then why would testing his spinal fluid result in a new list, as Suresh did in "Parasite"?

Up until a few weeks ago I thought Sylar was able to gain others' ability by looking at their brain and adjusting his own, which is unlikely because brain functions are unique. To my surprise, he actually EATS people's brain and 'digests' their abilities, according to writer Bryan Fuller and is hinted at in the show. It's also mentioned in the show that when Sylar does this his DNA is altered to utilize the new abilities. This makes as little sense because not only would he need to have violent tendencies, which he didn't seem to before, but his appearance would also have to change as his DNA does. Sylar is smart yes, but mainly due to his and Charlie's ability, the waitress Hiro tried to save.

As an episodic finale, the fight was okay, but not what I wanted to see at the end of entire season. It was really only half a fight. Here's what I liked and didn't like;

LIKED:
Parkman shooting Sylar, but having his own bullets hit him. I'm assuming Parkman might survive, since the bullets wouldn't be travelling as fast as they would shot from a gun, although one bullet is close to his heart.

Niki (or Jessica?) grabbing the parking meter and smashing Sylar with it.

Hiro stabbing Sylar as he was drawn to by Isaac.

Sylar pushing Hiro away with telekenesis and Hiro teleporting away to save himself.

Nathan rescuing his brother.

Is Sylar dead? He was able to fake his death while HRG kept him at Primatech, and there's no reason to believe he couldn't 'regenerate' or 'hibernate'. It's not clear whether or not he dragged himself into the sewer, or if someone else dragged him down there.

The foreboding of a evil person worse than Sylar, according to Molly. Season 2's villain, no doubt.


DISLIKES:

Sylar and Peter are the two most power people in the show and all Sylar uses is his telekenetic power. Where's the freezing power? The super hearing? The metal melting power? Peter simply punches Sylar. He doesn't use his invisibility, his telekenesis.

Niki (or Jessica) hits Sylar once, then Micah drags her away because 'Dad needs her'.

Claire's healing ability was only useful in escaping Nathan. She didn nothing in the final battle except stop her Dad from shooting Peter.

D.L. did NOTHING! I know he's wounded, but come on! Why bother bringing him there if he wasn't going to use his power?

Suresh did nothing (in the final battle).

What I would have changed is obvious; Sylar and Peter should have fought power against power. Sylar should have tried to cut his head open again, and Niki (or Jessica) could have belted him a few times before he freezes her, and mentally hits her with another parking meter.
Also, D.L. could have at least stuck his hand into Sylar's leg and hurt him after Sylar hurt Niki.

Heck, it should have been a bigger finale for all the waiting we've done.

I don't believe Peter is dead, but I'm not so sure about Nathan. Nathan could have let go, but could he fly fast enough to get out of the blast zone? I think Peter survived because Ted 'exploded' in Claire's house and survived, and Future Peter blamed himself for exploding inside New York. That tells me that the power simply emanates from Peter's body, but his body doesn't disintegrate.

Still, this show has me hooked, and I'll be watching the spin-off, "Origins' when it starts.

OK, maybe Sylar was a mutant.
I'm not sure. I recall that he gave another guy's blood to the Dr.
If he is a mutant, then Peter should be able to get his ability. But I think the only ability Peter could get from Sylar is the ability to get power by eating brains. He would not get all the powers that Sylar stole. Since Peter can get power just by being close, he doesn't need the power to eat brains.
On the other hand, if Sylar ate Peter's brain, then he would get all the abilities Peter had.
I think.

"Sylar and Peter should have fought power against power." Steve

I definitely agree; however, Sylar knew Peter was the bomb and not him so all he wanted to do was provoke Peter into losing control, which he did. Peter thought Sylar was the bomb so he should've tried a little harder, instead of turning the showdown into a street fight.

"Suresh did nothing (in the final battle)."

True, but what did you expect him to do? There's really nothing he could've done.

I'm just guessing but I doubt Sylar is dead, though his main role is probably over. Why would somebody want his corpse anyway? I've missed a few eps, because 24 is on at the same time, but I think the cockroach is a metaphor for Sylar's survival skills. Peter should not be dead, although the other 'heroes' seem to think so because they all just left.

In an extended fight, where the heroes are using their powers, Suresh could have called out to Sylar to distract him long enough for Sylar to get hit by Peter or Niki. Or he could have beaned him in the head with a handy rock, or something.
All the heroes left, thinking Peter and Nathan were dead, because it sure looks like it visually, but also the show had to end with a cliffhanger. No sense telling the audience that the guys are okay, as the producer has said that the show will have new characters coming in every year, replacing a few old ones. The question will be who won't show up next season because they're dead; Sylar, Peter, Nathan, or Parkman.
Personally, I want all of them to survive, since I've become attached to all of them, but I know that won't happen because of Kring going on record that the characters will come and go.

"He would not get all the powers that Sylar stole." Terik

I'm with you on that one; unfortunately the creators aren't because we've seen Peter use Sylar's telekinesis a few times, unless somebody else has it but I don't think there have been repeats with abilities. (have there?)

I take back what I said about Suresh. He could've taken advantage of Sylar's super-hearing ability again like he did in "Parasite." My vote for who dies is for either Nathan or Parkman, although Parkman did have that cutesy moment with Molly at the end...

Unless peter could only copy a power that was actively used near him. Then he might have been able to copy the Tk from Syler.

True the fight between syler and peter was rather disappointing in its non-existence. Here you had these two who where gaining powers all along and had a chance to have an epic good vs evil mega hero battle and instead it comes down to a basic street brawl.

Oh well next season looks like its goign to be quite interesting.

Another (possibly) time-line mix up:
If future Hiro never told Peter to save Clair,
then Sylar would have killed Clair & have her power,
and Peter would not have her power,
and then Sylar would (possibly) kill Peter & have his power,
and then there would be no nuke.
Don't save the cheerleader (or yourself), save the world!

Unless the nuke was Sylar in the original time-line. That might some sense since future Hiro thought that Sylar surviving a sword wound lead to the nuke. Then again, everyone in the altered future thought Sylar was the terrorist when it was Peter.

Since the official board isn't up and running yet (I think?), I will post a few things about the season premiere here. The sources that say somebody important died at the end of last season lied. Everybody is alive and well, except Sulu (Hiro's father), he was killed in this chapter by who I thought at first was Sylar but Sulu knew him so that theory may be out. I was a little disappointed that Heroes is on at the same time as K-Ville, because I wanted to give that show a try, but ya can't have it all.

Sorry, haven't had a chance to get the board going yet, I'll try to get up and running in the next two weeks.

I wasn't trying to hassle you or anything Art, no need to apologize. Are the posts from this board going to be transferred over there? I don't know why they would be, I was just curious.

I know who the person is that Molly says is "a lot worse" than Sylar, and who can see her when she looks for him. It's Sauron! When Molly's dreaming and Matt is 'listening' to her thoughts we hear "I see you" just like Sauron says when Frodo puts the ring on.

So DL gets shot in the abdomen once and he dies, but Parkmen was hit by four bullets and was fine? Sure Sylar may not have projected those bullets at the same velocity as they normally are but I don't doubt he was trying to kill Matt. Speaking of Mr. Grey, I didn't think Candice would last very long with him, considering he had already killed her in Five Years Gone, so it wasn't surprising when he did here, nor was it surprising that she was naturally obese.

Sylar seemed to be stranded in a tropical area. Perhaps that brother and sister trying to get to America will run into him and she'll do what pre-explosion Peter couldn't, kill him. While I'm speculating, I think the guy who killed Hiro's father is that flying dude who's hitting it with Claire. Couldn't TPTB come up with other abilities besides another person who can fly and heal themselves? This is just a guess but Tim Kring must like Star Trek.

Kensei might be the original self-healer, and down the line we'll discover that he's Claire's great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather, because he's blonde like her.

We've had three episodes of the brother and sister on the run, killing or stunning people with her power. The preview shows them with Sylar, so it'll be nice to see their storyline pushed forward.

I guess D.L. died because he was shot point blank, and Matt's bullits went in slightly slower, but yeah, I think he'd have alot of aches and pains from 4 entry wounds that are healing.

If Bennett is not killed it wouldn't be the first time one of Isaac's paintings didn't come true, since New York wasn't blown up as shown.

Why is peter hanging around the Irish family (other than the sister is a cutie)? They're a bunch of crooks, he committed a crime with them, and now he needs to get back to his old life, which he should assume was not that of a criminal.

Looking forward to why Sylar has no powers, and just who saved him.

And now we have two more Trek alumni.

Dominic Keating (Reed) and Nichelle Nichols.

Good point about Kensei Steve, man am I tired of that storyline, but unless Wes (West?) is related to the Petrelli's there are loads of other choices for his ability TPTB could've given him.

I must've missed that part of the preview for next week that shows Sylar and the wonder twins together. I also potentially missed the getaway car in Mexico was the car stolen from Claire. I've read some theories about why Sylar can't use his abilities, and DL's death, and some think it's that disease that's attacking the 'heroes', combined with injury of course.

I am also a bit annoyed with Peter staying in Scottland (Ireland?). The least he could do was look in the box and if he didn't like what he saw, forget about it. BTW, what power was he using in the premire that knocked those guys ten feet away? It looked like force lightening or something similar. I don't recall any other hero with that ability.

Maybe it was Ted's radioactiveness?

It's been 4 months, so Peter must have picked it up somewhere else from someone we haven't seen yet.

Very true Steve. I'm just curious as to what it was. I don't believe it was Ted's ability because when we saw him/Sylar/Peter use it, it was a reddish-yellow color, plus nobody he used it on had radiation burns that we saw. It might've been, it just didn't look like it to me. Anybody have an explanation on what exactly that Hispanic girl's ability is?

Hi, the Heroes Season 2 board is now open for business, I'll get Season 1 up over the next few days.