No he wouldn't. He swore he would never say that again.
Moderator's Note: This is Mike's original Steven summary:
Steven was clean-cut, good looking, and about as interesting as day-old toast. He should have kept the beard from "The Chase." And I hope he's properly embarrassed everytime he sees a picture of himself in the striped sweater from "The Celestial Toymaker."
I'm afraid that a man who risked life and limb rushing back into a bunch of daleks in order to rescue his teddy-bear is not likely to be embarrassed by a mere sweater.
Did you notice how eager the Doctor was to get rid of Stephen? The Elders/Savages suggested him as a poor substitute for the Doctor (note they didn't consider Dodo - sexism or commonsense?) and while he was going 'um, er' the Doctor was practically cackling with glee.
Even though I've never seen the show, Steven will always remind me of "Blue Peter." I caught a parody of BP on Monty Python, and Steven reminds me of the character portrayed by Graham Chapman--"Hello, today we're going to learn how to be a gynecologist!" "Great!" "Super!"
How do you pronounce Peter Purves? I've only read the name and always thought it was like "perves" but I was watching something the other day and they referred to a Peter Pur-ves, sounding like "purvis". Which is it?
On a similar note, having only read the word, is it Shay-da or Shar-da ?
It's "pur-viss".
And 'Shar-da'.
To think I've been wrong all these years, simply because I had never heard the words spoken.
One of the funniest things I saw was someone who interviewed a person who mentioned Daleks, but not knowing how to spell it, wrote it "Darlicks".
Odd, I always thought it was 'Shah-da'.
Kind of reminds me of the Americans pronouncing Sade the singer's name 'Shardey'. Drives me nuts sometimes. I guess I lived in the UK too long, before coming back.
My opinion of Steven was raised somewhat after seeing The Ark. For years I've read about how little there was to the character but the way he spoke to the future humans and Monoids was almost inspiring at times.
Well, even the most uninteresting of characters can dredge up a bit of eloquence when arguing for his life. I've never understood why the Doctor jeopardises the TARDIS crew's already slim chances of not being chucked out of the airlock by allowing Steven to conduct their rather pathetic 'We didn't mean to genocide your people we're very sorry we won't do it again' defence.
Maybe he thought it would stall them for time as he tried to come up with a better plan?
Hey, I always happened to like Steven, just look at his appearances in 'The Chase', 'The Time Meddler' and 'The Massacre'.
I rest my case.
Well, I'd love to look at his appearance in The Massacre but unfortunately it seems to be unavailable for some reason...;( But I'm sure his attempts to save Anne Chapelette were deeply moving (actually I'm not, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt).
The Time Meddler: Refuses to believe that they've traveled in time. Well, I suppose that's _just_ about allowable, especially as he promptly discovers a watch.
The Chase: Runs back into a bunch of Daleks _to rescue his teddy-bear_ I rest MY case.
I loved the fact that he was a little crazy about his mascot and always wished that he had been kept unshaven and slightly delirious for the rest of his stories :)
But WAS he that devoted to the mascot? I don't recall his little furry friend making any subsequent appearances.
No, neither to do I, that was my point about wishing he had been kept unshaven and slightly delirious longer than episode 6 of 'The Chase'.
They should have been able to strike a balance between him being a total raving loony (The Chase) and being 'about as interesting as day-old toast' (every other story...with the possible exception of The Massacre).
Day-old toast? I'm there... anything's better than the overly sweet and sugary Mel.
I second that motion.
I eat day-old toast for breakfast... :)
How long was Steven Taylor with the Mechanoids? That teddy bear probably was his only friend during his imprisonment. It kept him company amongst the unfeeling Mechanoids. He probably talk to it for a long time. It probably started to talk back to (depending on how long he has been isolated from human contact) while he was slowly going crazy. Of course he would go back to rescue his only friend.
If Tom Hanks can make a friend with a volleyball in Castaway, why not a teddy bear?
I think that Steven and his furry friend spent a couple of years alone together. But how does Steven know the teddy bear wouldn't be HAPPIER with the Daleks than with him? Tell me that! Even if they just used it for target practice (highly likely) at least that would give the bear a PURPOSE in life, and death would probably be infinitely preferable to listening to Steven's maudlin declarations of love for one more minute...
And what's a space pilot doing with a mascot like that in the first place? I BET he had a pair of furry dice in the cockpit as well...
Re:Steven's Mascot
Apparently it's a stuffed toy panda, called Hi-Fi & Not a teddy bear at all!
So have we ever wondered what happened to Steven????
Well clearly he was forced to regail some poor soul about all his adventures on the TARDIS. This poor soul heard them and said "ok, now can you refer to yourself in the third person and every twenty three or so minutes say "Doctor Who: Episode ...." To which Steven replied "Do I get paid?" to which came the reply "Er...yeah...sure...whatever...."
He became the leader of the "Civilisation of the Month", at the end of the story "The Savages" !
Mike Konczewski - haven't seen that Monty Python sketch - but it could have ben an actually parody of him. Peter Purvis went on to be a Blue Peter presenter after Doctor Who.
Re:Monty Python's "Austrailian Blue Peter sketch"
It was indeed a parody of Blue Peter, jen d as Carol Cleveland was the "Valerie Singleton" spoof, & John Cleese played the "John Noakes" parody presenter in the sketch.
Re: Last Comment
Whoops, I got the Three of a kind parody sketch fused with the Monty Python parody sketch...! eek!
The Three of a Kind Sketch was far more sarcastically accurate....
So have we ever wondered what happened to Steven????
Yeah, but we're obviously the only ones. Is Steven the ONLY COMPANION EVER not to have a book or audio or SOMETHING telling us what happened after he left the TARDIS...?
TARDIS Eruditorum: 'A futuristic pilot who mostly just had to look credulous, Purves's job on the series very clearly increasingly became to pinch-hit for an increasingly erratic William Hartnell. With Hartnell being written out of every other episode, and really never being ideally suited to the leading man role, Purves was forced to be a chameleon, filling in whatever a given story need him...Peter Purves kept the series together for a year, and thank God for it' - yes, yes, I shall try to appreciate Steven more, but...Hartnell wasn't being written out every other episode! And would it have KILLED the chameleon to show the devotion to poor Hi-Fi that he abruptly abandoned after The Chase?
Purves in DWM: 'The first serial in which I appeared, The Time Meddler, was a nice bit of nonsense, and Steven had something to do. He was argumentative, being an experienced space pilot' - THE CHASE was your first serial, moron, and your argumentativeness consisted of insisting you weren't in the Eleventh Century despite the fact YOU BLOODY WERE.
'Sadly, that character never appeared again. Except on a couple of occasions, Steven became rather dull. I didn't like him.' - one can't argue, but it's unbearably sad when THE ACTOR actually SAYS it.
So have we ever wondered what happened to Steven????
Yeah, but we're obviously the only ones. Is Steven the ONLY COMPANION EVER not to have a book or audio or SOMETHING telling us what happened after he left the TARDIS...?
Well *drumroll* Eight seasons in to the Companion Chronicles, we FINALLY learn that King Steven was deposed by his evil daughters. Well, better late than never, I suppose. (Luckily it's all part of his I, Claudius-style plan to convince everyone that they don't need a king in the first place.)
ME in 'Ask the Matrix: What If...' thread: Even Steven wasn't remotely interested in the female of the species, even after two long and lonely years with only a stuffed panda and some Mechanoids for company...
JUDI: Steven was probably so desperate for the pleasures of the flesh by the end that that panda probably had adventures that other stuffed toys did not....
I'd accuse you of having a REALLY sick mind, only the undeniable fact remains that Steven dived into a Mechanoid v Dalek WAR to retrieve the creature. Greater love hath no man, than that he lay down his life for his stuffed toy...
Incidentally, I was wrong about Steven never having any interest in the opposite sex (or indeed the same sex - the Oliver Harper Companion Chronicle trilogy made it plain that he comes from a time almost as enlightened as Captain Jack's). He found the Dravhins a 'delightful surprise'. And he may or may not have fancied Anne Chaplette. But that's about IT. He must be the only man in the universe to remain immune to the charms of Barbara Wright.
And he may or may not have fancied Anne Chaplette.
Having just relistened to the Massacre audio, I'm voting NOT. Or at least if there WAS any fancying going on, it must have been conveyed entirely visually. (Though I suppose THAT'S not beyond the bounds of possibility. Who suspected that Troughton fell hook, line and sinker for Astrid till we SAW that besotted look on his face...)
About Time: 'He has no trouble falling into the blank-verse type of language that the locals use in pre-fight dissing' - seriously? I never noticed. But then I wouldn't.
'Admits he's a Protestant, and it doesn't sound like he's bluffing' - EEK!
'Steven is disgusted by the Doctor's lack of concern for the lives of ordinary people. Yet when a boy is hit by a car in 1966, Steven's reaction is to run to the TARDIS and get the Doctor to dematerialise...' - Ah. Fair point.
Companion Piece: 'With Sara, Steven finally gets a chance to act like the kind of casually feminist man that should be common in any science fictional future' – and in REAL LIFE too, surely? 'He accepts her capabilities at face value, and never seems threatened by her competence or combat skills' – that's a point. So maybe his failure to treat Vicki as his equal (or, frankly, superior) were the result of ageism not sexism? (In Dodo's case, the Cockney teenager WAS probably inferior to an astronaut-fighter-pilot.)
Good old Lieutenant Steven Taylor. Hi-Fi's mother, brother, secret lover...
...BETRAYER AND ABANDONER...
It's obvious from "The Chase" though:
Steven: Hello, HiFi....
Hi-Fi: Nooooo!
Steven: "You see, Dodo, I *need* you to dress up as a panda...
Sometimes I think Steven's OG clothing resembles a sort-of "Space Chokha".
Now I sorta imagine Peter Purves playing Shota Rustaveli. Because that's who he pretty much kinda looks like to me.
I made various Doctors and Companions as EUIV countries!
Steven Taylor died early on, but HiFi remained and is a Great Republic in the Eastern European steppe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRxXe4FP_IA
One time, on a board about Companion fashion, I saw Steven described as: "Defining Feature - I'm from the Future".
But well he has other defining features, like hugging stuffed pandas.
Also, to many people - possibly including Vicki - he would be from the past.
And from his name to his clothing to the fact he starts up in disbelief about time travel stuff and suchs, he does'nt really seem to be that futuristic.
A Steven Taylor from the present day or even the medieval era would still be very Steven-y. He would'nt suddenly turn into a Ian\Ben\Jamie clone just by changing his home century.
Heck, we don't even know which century he's from. 24th? 28th? A few stuff say he's from the 23rd.
he has other defining features, like hugging stuffed pandas.
Not for long...
Poor old Hi-Fi was BETRAYED N'ABANDONED in no time!
I know, but it is still his mascot, and a Steven from 1965 or 1565 would basically be the same as a Steven from 2365 (or is it 2765? 2265? Why has'nt Steven's home century been confirmed yet?)
Yeah, he's the only companion without a confirmed hometime. Well beside of course Susan and Romana since they're Time Ladies, and Leela since she's from so far in the future that it does'nt matter.
But it is possible he will get a confirmed home century in the new book. The one that will have childhood stories of various Companions.
Why has'nt Steven's home century been confirmed yet?
Because no one cares?
(Alright, so I was pretty outraged when Big Finish totally contradicted itself about whether Vicki or Steven was the earlier one but there was a regrettable lack of rioting in the streets...)
But it is possible he will get a confirmed home century in the new book. The one that will have childhood stories of various Companions.
Oh, that Origins thing is gonna be about the COMPANIONS? OK, fine. But you can't take short stories too seriously, I mean, they have the Seventh Doctor telling Stalin how wonderful he is and Nyssa telling ADRIC how wonderful he is...
Does it matter when Steven came from?
1) Well, Vicki and Steven haven't been Companions for a while. Also, the EU confirmed Vicki, Polly, Mel, and Ace's surnames, as well as Benton's first name. Centuries are just as much an important part of a character's backstory.
2) Yes it is about the Companions, and yeah the novels tend to contradict the show more often than Big Finish does.
3) The Doctor pretty much meant that there will always be Communism and that Communists would always idolize Stalin, even if the Doctor is'nt a Communist himself, just sometimes accused to be so. Although Malcolm Hulke is a Communist, and so is Ben Aaronovitch's father. And for Adric x Nyssa, that's always been a common ship, although perhaps not as common as Nyssa x Tegan.
4) Not really, after all he'd still be Steven whether he's from the Middle Ages, the 1960's, or the 51th century. Heck he could be an alien named Sitev and still be pretty much the same character.
Also, the EU confirmed Vicki, Polly, Mel, and Ace's surnames
Albeit two DIFFERENT surnames, in Ace's case. (McShane in the NAs and audios, 'Gale' in the PDAs. Naturally, said problem was 'resolved' when Ace was murdered and replaced by another Ace from an alt-uni...or something...)
The Doctor pretty much meant that there will always be Communism and that Communists would always idolize Stalin
No, the Doctor meant that Joseph Stalin was a wonderful, wonderful guy who was just misunderstood. Sickening.
Eventually they decided Gale was the middle name.
Well Stalin is a wonderful guy if you are a communist and agree with him.
Eventually they decided Gale was the middle name.
Yeah, but sadly the fact they went down the 'Gale is her middle name and McShane is her surname!' route to reconcile this stuff did not, in any way, preclude them from also producing a 60-foot Ace from another dimension to explain away the discrepancy (Loving the Alien)...
Well Stalin is a wonderful guy if you are a communist and agree with him.
I think even most Communists draw the line at STALIN.
The Doctor also hung out with Mao as well.
To be fair, he could have been lying through his teeth to impress the Chinese delegate...alright, so some novel or other accidentally canonised it by claiming it was during the Long March or something before Mao turned evil...which is actually preferable to Closing the Account's vile repulsive placing of a Stalin-whitewash in THE DOCTOR'S mouth. At least not-killing a young-Mao is understandable from a Web of Time point of view, like Matt saving Hitler's life when he accidentally crashed through his window...
Yeah he praised Stalin and Mao because it was a fixed point in time.
Returning to Steven, you'd think whether he's from the 24th or 28th century is a fixed point in time, too.
In my mind he's from the 24th century, more specifically he is born in 20 February 2339.
Yeah he praised Stalin and Mao because it was a fixed point in time.
Gushing over Stalin on his deathbed telling him what a wonderful adorable misunderstood HERO he is has NOTHING to do with the Web of Time.
If he did'nt, it could've caused an early regeneration! You know, a butterfly bats its wings on Traken and it causes time storms on Earth and Gallifrey.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FanFicWit/comments/hjlojs/this_post_brought_to_you_by_the_fact_that_there/
Also: https://i.redd.it/hxvxutbn4ia81.png
Btw I just named an EVE online character "Netsev Yoltar".
If you could keep things a BIT more on-topic...
Ok I will.
Going back to dear boy Steven Taylor, I think 🤔 season 3 was the only time the companion from the present was less relatable than The companion from the future (or past, or another planet)
Yes I tend to associate Steven with Dodo and season 3, while Vicki is more season 2 and more associated with Barbara and Ian.
Going back to dear boy Steven Taylor, I think season 3 was the only time the companion from the present was less relatable than The companion from the future (or past, or another planet)
Alas, poor Dodo.
Ooh, let me think...
I s'pose a lot of people (mentioning no Tims) found alien-Nyssa a lot more relatable than the modern-day-Earth Mouth-On-Legs...
And, I dunno if relatable is quite the word for it - so sexual! So violent! - but Captain Jack* and River Song are DA MAN (as Eleven would say) - fifty-first century Companions are just SUPERIOR to any other sort...
*The Who version of Jack, obviously, not the totally-different Torchwood misery-guts...
but Captain Jack* and River Song are DA MAN (as Eleven would say)
No he wouldn't. He swore he would never say that again.
The Doctor lies.
(Alright, it's never been HEARD again but BF have their fake-Matt and no doubt sooner or later they'll have The Real Thing and there's no way they WON'T make one of 'em say it again...)
Yeah, being more relatable than Dodo is'nt an effort. Even the talking cabbage would've been more relatable than Dodo.
And yes, Vicki, Jamie, and Nyssa are also very relatable, and I assume Susan, Adric, and Turlough were also quite relatable to some.
And yeah, we need more 51st century Companions, and even bring back the 51st century fashions from Classic Who. Imagine if Steven had been a 51st century man named Zdaifim Dineh (or whatever consonantal shift can come up with*) and was dressed like Magnus Greel or Frederick Marius or Morgus and Salateen from Caves of Androzani.
Fun fact, technically in Middle English (so if he had been about 1300-800 or 1700-1200 years "older") his name would need to be spelt Ste*ph*en (as it is from Stephanos meaning crown\wreath in Greek, and ultimately from Proto-Indo-European stegw "to enlace"), and the spelling "Steven" (or other spellings most commonly "Steaven") would mean "voice\request" (from PIE stomh, mouth\muzzle\hole), or "time\appointment" (from PIE stebh, to stamp\become angry).
You know how often his name gets spelt Stephen, and HiFi gets spelt Hi-Fi? Maybe his name was'nt (won't be) even Steven or Stephen or even Stihfaan, but Steaven and he's named after that word. It's the 24th century (or is it 28th?), mate!
*I also have a Kaiko Laichrzai in EVE Online. Laichrzai being a future evolution of Nicolosi.
Also: https://preview.redd.it/vjd2qydsbwa81.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=8c9adf8c9215ce5c3a5f8d88baba64527e03b82f
Yes I ship Stoliver now.
https://preview.redd.it/hsnfrjmu8te81.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2b9369be82b51844cc98e20441c7d969694afdc9
Or maybe it's all about Steven x Millennia?
I thought maybe Steven isn’t from *centuries* in the future.
He is from *millennia* in the future, but people names looped back to sound like our present day names, as seen in NuWho (or else were hearing the present day equivalent but it’s actually closer to Ztaivim Dilëh or whatever)
And he isn’t a full lookalike to either peter purves or the evil looking guy from the docudrama, but maybe a very mixed guy? With colorful hair and eyes similiar to the lunar lakes and oasis landing sims? Or maybe just with features a bit removed from any present human.
But I prefer to say he can’t be that far in the future. At one point in time nobody would be names Steven Taylor, just like how at one point in time nobody would be fully ethnically english but instead very mixed.
But also it was in the 1960s, the novelizations describe Steven as a brown eyed blond when Peter Purves is clearly brunette and grey eyed, and William Hartnell propably couldn’t remember futuristic names.
Would a guy from millennia in the future look quite so identical to his ludicrously-distant ancestor Morton Dill...?
No, but does Steven canonically look identical to Morton Dill? Do either of them canonically look identical to Peter Purves or do they look like Edmund C Short? Do they have brown hair and grey eyes as seen as in the show, Big Finish covers and comics, or are they blond and brown eyed as in the books? Perhaps it's a sort-of futuristic mix-color or even unnatural ones.
Future people would be really mixed or evolved in new phenotypes (like Leela of the Sevateem), presumably including Vicki and Steven.
My ponified versions of them look like this: https://i0.wp.com/www.ncls.it/g/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/1st-Doctor-Whooves-and-Companions.png?resize=1024%2C229&ssl=1 and I'm pretty sure I also have Pokémonized versions of them somewhere.
The same actor played both characters.
Mary Tamm had a duel role as Romana and Princess Strella in Androids Of Tara. Sarah Sutton played both Nyssa and Ann Talbot in Black Orchid.
Sometimes this just happened. Of course, in the case of Romana and Nyssa, having doubles fit into the plot. With Steven, said double was just there (and the two characters never even met).
Yeah.
Peter Purves was cast as Steven because William Hartnell and Maureen O'Brien liked his acting as Morton Dill.
Perhaps Steven is a descendant of Morton.
I mean if they can have unrelated characters that are identical (such as the aforementioned Nyssa and Ann) then I can accept such a line between Morton and Steven.
Or he's a descendant of in-universe Peter Purves, because Ace had Sophie Aldred's Blue Peter badges.
Or he's a descendant of both.
Perhaps he's from far enough in the future that his family could move from England to America to Australia and back like we move between different neighborhoods.
No, wait, I had an idea.
Morton Dill, shortly after we see him in "The Chase", has an one night stand on a dare with a girl from Preston named Elise Taylor. They end up having a son together, Robert Taylor.
Eventually, one of Robert's descendants, Michael Taylor, marries one of Peter Purves' descendants, Laura Purves. They settle somewhere near New Longton in a new type of housing called an Hiveblock, then in 2336 Valerie Taylor is born, followed in 2339 by her little brother Steven!
Why bother with Peter Purves, it just muddies the waters. Just say that Morton is an ancestor of Steven's and leave it at that.
Yeah, none of the characters would be related to the actors who play them. (And one of the badges was for heroic achievement...)
In fact I prefer to think that none of the actors exist as separate people in-universe and are just replaced by the Companion's bloodlines, which means that in-universe, John Noakes and Valerie Singleton\Lesley Judd were presenting BP as a duo.
MAYBE MAYBE there was an adventure in which the Doctor and Steven were fighting some enemy on the BP set while it was on air and thus Steven became a presenter for a day because of that. Just like how MAYBE MAYBE the Fifth and Tenth Doctor became Samurai and swordfighted each other in the Eye of Orion meanwhile Nyssa filmed, Adric cheered, and Tegan and Martha barbecued Anethan Crystal Fruits together. Or how MAYBE MAYBE Liz Shaw totally thought it would be cute if Myanmar had a Mickey Mouse-shaped enclave, or how MAYBE MAYBE Vicki Pallister thought Surawi was the Swahili word for fox.
I just want to write a fic in which Steven gives some future Dimoxinil to Oliver...
I just want to write a fic in which Steven gives some future Dimoxinil to Oliver...
??????????
Simpson reference.
I don't watch The Simpsons, never have, never will.
So any references from that show will be lost on me.
I propably won't call it Dimoxinil, I propably would use an "Amiche per (Cau)Caso" reference or something.
Also, happy early 83rd birthday to Peter Purves!
And happy early -317th birthday to Steven Taylor! (Or is it -217th? -717th?)
https://www.ncls.it/g/archives/7467
Look! It's Steven x Aroush!
And happy early -317th birthday to Steven Taylor! (Or is it -217th? -717th?)
It isn't any of those, he hasn't been born yet.
That's what the minus is for.
Gaia are you president of the Steven Taylor fan club?
No Im president of the “I adore every companion as they have all grown on me and they’re all iconic although I don’t actually watch the show and know it through ponies” club.
Im also sometimes very impulsive and instinctive.
https://www.ncls.it/g/archives/7670
Oh, I wrote a fanfic again.
My newest angersitter, Patrizia, always ends up dreaming about the guy.
https://www.ncls.it/g/archives/7693
Apparently he has a girlfriend now.
https://www.ncls.it/g/archives/7706
Looks its dear boy again.
Or he's a descendant of in-universe Peter Purves, because Ace had Sophie Aldred's Blue Peter badges.
Surprisingly, there actually IS an in-universe Peter Purves. (See - or rather hear - him slipping on kangaroo poo (or something) on Blue Peter in Companion Chronicles Season Fourteen: The Prints of Denmark.)
You mean Lulu the elephant? She was mentioned on Prints of Denmark? Was Zoe watching Blue Peter? (Heck, that could have been the episode where Ace was heroic at. Maybe Ace was saving Lulu from a Dalek invasion or something.)
Either way, Steven (and Rochelle, and the Magic Taco...) are propably descended from both on different sides of the family.
It's like how Francoise "Ed" Appledelhi\Afder (from Cowboy Bebop) has a whole bunch of anime characters as her ancestors.
Or how Benny has all of those ancestors? I could make something for Steven, Zoe, and Vicki, starting for the characters that I wrote on the other thread.
You mean Lulu the elephant?
Probably. Instantly forgot which animal it was after STUPIDLY not writing it down.
Was Zoe watching Blue Peter?
Yup.
Or how Benny has all of those ancestors?
You mean from Dead Romance? I always thought it was ridiculous that only one of her female ancestors insisted on HER name being carried on. But then Lawrence was so sexist he got SARAH JANE to change her name on marriage...(Admittedly she kinda did on SJA too but she can't entirely be blamed for not beating the •••• out of a discorporating man when he came up with his dying words...)
There was a FtNB trans ancestor (Cathal Summerfield, formerly Cathy) who had Salmacian surgery.
When Salmacian\hermaproditism became a bit less acceptable in 2363 (Cathal is born in 2344, propably 5 years younger than Steven.) Cathal ended up in an hyperfertility experiment. So yes, Benny has nonbinary ancestors, and maybe other sides of her family had more men and nonbinary people taking on their wives' surnames.
Peter Dalton was a Trickster plant anyways.
Peter Dalton was innocent!
Admittedly a bit TOO innocent...
Who in the dead gods of Krypton is Peter Dalton!?
Gaia, you need to give context when you mention characters such as this. Since I know little of the EU, such references are gonna go over my head.
It's not Expanded Universe, it's The Sarah Jane Adventures: The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith.
There's no much difference than spinoffs and expanded universe. Spinoff is just EU that was filmed in live-action and released as an actual TV show alongside NuWho.
In fact, technically even NuWho and the TV movie can be considered EU.
Now, back to our Dear Boy Steven Taylor...
There's no much difference than spinoffs and expanded universe.
I completely disagree, admittedly I don't have a terribly strong case as my argument is 'SJA is totally canon! It's got THE DOCTOR in it! Torchwood is totally canon until Miracle Day! It's got THE DOCTOR'S HAND in it! Class is - some stupid supernatural teen drama unrelated to the Whoniverse even though it's got the Doctor in it! And K9: The Australian Abomination is canon only over my dead body...
In fact, technically even NuWho and the TV movie can be considered EU.
NEVER.
If anything, Old Who was just a delightful twenty-six-year prequel to True Who...
The EU has the doctor more than the spinoffs do. And the EU has a lot of spinoffs too.
Or maybe nuwho is a sequel to the movie which is a sequel to classic who
Or seven era is a sequel to the six era which is a sequel of the five era which is a sequel to the four era which is a sequel to the three era which is a sequel to the two era which is a sequel to the one era
Nah nu who has become that annoying sequel show that should have been put out of its misery a while back…..
Yes, let's cancel JODIE! and Tennant and Gatwa and Russell T God IMMEDIATELY. That'll make the world a better place.
That would just leave us with eccleston, smith, and capaldi eras, which are actually great.
Though technically the eccleston era is prolly too tied to the tennant era.
Or maybe we could cancel everything except for Steven's run on the TARDIS.
Wow Emily for once you’ve said something sensible!
If anything, Old Who was just a delightful twenty-six-year prequel to True Who...
It was NOT!
I'll take Classic Who over Modern any day. Classic Who was MY Who.
Nah nu who has become that annoying sequel show that should have been put out of its misery a while back…
You're absolutely right, Rodney.
Oh Emily would scream bloody murder, but the rest of us would probably just shrug our shoulders and move on.
They both have their pros and cons, they're two very different shows for sure.
A NuWho Steven would've been completely different!
Yup.
Yeah
There would be trippy long dream sequences about Steven and HiFi.
Also he'd propably be treated as a secondary Companion to the "Dodo equivalent" (present day female companion). Think like Rose and Jack Harkness, or Bill and Nardole, or Yaz and Dan.
And they'd start him off in the striped sweater instead of going from a futuristic outfit to shirt and jacket to sweaters.
And the primary companion could have a crush on him.
https://www.ncls.it/g/archives/7718
It's Bart Steven!
Steven, a villain, an idea suggested by Peter Purves on how he can come back as Steven on-screen.
From Doctor Who - Whovian Times/The Encyclopedia Gallifreyus on facebook:
"Peter Purves reveals idea for Doctor Who character to return as villain
Purves suggested that ex-companion Steven Taylor could be pitted against his former friend, the Doctor.
By Morgan Jeffery
Doctor Who fans were recently treated to the return of several ex-companions in The Power of the Doctor, an episode produced to mark 100 years of the BBC – and now, another former star, Peter Purves, has revealed his idea for how his character Steven Taylor could appear.
Steven acted as companion to the First Doctor (William Hartnell) for 45 episodes between 1965 and 1966, eventually parting ways with the Time Lord to serve as leader to an alien civilisation.
Speaking at a BFI screening to mark the release of the Doctor Who: The Collection - Season 2 Blu-Ray boxset, Purves recalled the rather abrupt nature of his original departure from the series.
"We were just about to start [1966 story] The Savages and Innes Lloyd came in as producer, introduced himself to me, and the following day he took me to one side and said, 'I just thought I'd let you know early on, we're not going to renew your contract,' so I knew I had four weeks," Purves said.
"That was it. No reason. I did ask for a reason. I said, 'What have I done wrong?' and he said, 'No, you've not done anything wrong, it's just policy now – we're only going to keep companions for one year.'
"It might've been true, it might've not been. I think it was a load of b****cks myself."
Addressing the possibility of Steven's return to the series, Purves revealed that he liked the idea of his character having been corrupted by power and having "become an absolute despot" who comes up against his old friend many years later. "The Doctor does return and finds him there and ousts him, which I think would have been an interesting story," he suggested.
Purves also admitted that he now watches Doctor Who "very rarely", adding that he is "not madly taken" with the show in its current form. "It's so clever technically, some brilliant work done, stunning work," he said. "[But] I'm not happy particularly with the stories I have seen in the past five or six years, I've not madly enjoyed them."
The actor and TV host suggested that the BBC sci-fi series was, by necessity, more "story-led" during his tenure in the 1960s, a time in which "making television was difficult" since multiple takes on a TV drama shoot were discouraged due to cost.
"There were some very, very good scripts," he said. "It's a lot easier now. The editing and everything is so spectacularly clever, and the effects and everything can be so clever. But it's not quite as difficult as a director having to sit down with a script and work out what it's going to look like and create it live.
"That's what they did. I thought that was a stunning skill. And I was glad to be part of that era."
Yup after all the First Doctor Era started it all.
But actually Turlough would be a better villain than Steven.
But Steven would be a more unexpected villain. Propably way more unexpected than 'Who tends to do.