Is the Maker a Goa'uld ripoff?
What's a Goa'uld?
It's a worm like Parasitic entity,which takes over humanoid lifeforms, to use as it's "arm's & legs".
They seem to have a obsession for Earth's Ancient Mythology (At least, their rulers "The System Lords" do).
Basically, they're the main nasties from
Stargate SG-1....
Penguin enters, attaches device to one of his flippers, & begins 'agonising' Wolverine on the suspicion he's Nathan/Norbert/The Anonymous Fan (Delete as Applicable) trying his usual attempts at Trolling/Derailing threads etc.
I must protest at Emily's grotesquely sexist characterisation of women as 'birds'!!!
Or do you mean that, under Fitz's influence, the Doctor has taken up pigeon-fancying?
*Cries 'All Hail The Great Talking Bird!' and backs slowly away from the obviously insane Frobisher The Living God.*
Frankly I don't care whether the Maker's a rip-off from some programme I've never watched - I DO care that the totally different aliens in The Space Age were also called Makers, leading to much confusion...(OK, not THAT much confusion. But a bit.)
I must protest at Emily's grotesquely sexist characterisation of women as 'birds'!!!
Hey, don't blame me, blame those MEN. Admittedly, strictly speaking, the word 'bird' never crossed the Doctor's mind in relation to that female he was...um...fancying (speaking of which, why on Earth did she run off with the bioship instead of the Doctor? Just cos the Doc got her monkey (mokey. Whatever.) killed?). HOWEVER, in a review, where one single word often has to convey CHAPTERS-worth of meaning, I decided that nothing would get across the full horror of the Doctor's behaviour more efficiently than the use of the dreaded word 'birds'. (Likewise, I used monkey instead of mokey cos otherwise no-one would have a clue what I was talking about. Of such compromises are great reviews (well reviews anyway) made.)
Re:A certain "Troll"...
It seems that Frobisher's wandered in from the
Penguin Goa'uld spoof episode thread on the Stargate Kitchen sink again (Don't even ask...).
The entity (currently) calling himself Wolverine, does seem similar to a troll that's been plaguing the various Star Trek boards with inane threads, under a number of handles, which Frobisher has listed.
It seems that he could now be targeting the Doctor Who boards, as a result of Moderator activity on the various Star Trek Boards..
if it is him, expect a thread on why UNIT did not use Nuclear Weapons on (insert Monster/Villian name here) possibly on "Ask The Matrix" in the near future...
Yay, the EDAs can still produce readable books. After the dross which went on before I was starting to wonder. Now I have only five to go in the series; do they get better or worse? (no spoilers please)
If you liked this one, you'll probably like the rest.
Yeah, the BBC Books finally got their act together after...HOW many years? Just when the axe was about to fall. The thoroughly enjoyable Half-Life is miraculously followed by the even more thoroughly enjoyable Tomorrow Windows (TWO good EDAs in a row! I do realise this is a physical impossibility). I didn't take to Sleep of Reason or Deadstone Memorial one bit, but I have to admit, even if you don't like that sort of thing (and lots of people do) they were above average for EDAs. (Funnily enough, I seem to be remembering them more fondly than I reacted at the time.) To the Slaughter is pointless but very readable, and The Gallifrey Chronicles is...actually I don't think I can sum it up in a few words, but it's essential reading alright. Nothing like forthcoming execution to concentrate the mind, obviously.
The one word that sums up "The Gallfrey Chronicles" is "confusing." But a good sort of confusing.
Oh. Yeah. Good choice.
Graham, I would suggest boning up on your Doctor Who knowledge before reading "The Gallifrey Chronicles." Or to at least have access to Wikipedia and a fast internet connection.
It'll be simpler to ring Emily
Enjoyable, though way too slow due to the lack of plot.
Why aren't the priest and Calamee remotely surprised/interested to discover the Doctor's an alien instead of just being a white human offworlder?
'Are you aware that your memory has been interfered with on thirty-seven separate occasions - eight of them still outstanding' - blimey, that's quite drastic, even for The Amnesiac Doctor.
'It felt, for a moment, like half of him had died there with her, sucked away into the Miranda-shaped void that her death had left in the world' - nice try, but, let's face it, the Doc didn't give a •••• about his daughter's death in any OTHER book.
'Do you have a girlfriend? A boyfriend?' - oh riiiiight, suddenly homosexuality is completely normal on this rabidly Catholic planet...
Fitz decides this is an Earth colony because of the writing, amongst other things. Wouldn't the writing automatically translate itself for him?
As they assume it's the Doctor in the cage, why aren't Fitz and Trix a bit worried that - as similarly white off-worlders - they'll be forced to join him?
A Maker? What, like the ones in The Space Age??
'The Doctor, seemingly ignorant of the biological laws which governed the ratio between the quantity of alcohol imbibed and the state of drunkenness attained, was downing what was probably his tenth pint of beer, with no discernible effect' - how come he got drunk in Transit, then?
Since when has any Doc given a thought to parents, local abduction laws, etc, when an attractive young female is demanding to travel with him?
Psycho-princesses are more fun in EarthWorld.
'The real power here lay with the proper, elected government' - the WHAT! Didn't Calamee say that everywhere ELSE was a democracy? And what about the totalitarian Vatican police?
'I'd tried everything to get my memory back: psychotherapy, hypnosis, meditation. Even a few "experimental techniques"'...since when! Don't remember the Earth Arc mentioning any of this...mind you, don't remember much about the Earth Arc...
'I don't want to be the person I was a hundred years ago...All that teenage acne and having to tidy my room' - come off it! A century ago even Eight can remember he was PERFECTLY adult, thank you. And breaking some nurse's heart, IIRC.
'"I have lived for over eight hundred years," said Tain. "Nothing, I admit, compared to you"' - oh come on, Eight is only, what, around 1,100 year old? (Excluding Orbis, obviously.)
Why is the Doctor so keen to go find the TARDIS and NOT get himself and Ftiz unscrambled? Or, indeed, the population of this planet?
Why bother rejuvenating the emperor? And why only by twenty years?
Why would Calamee go with TAIN rather than the Doctor?
Fitz decides this is an Earth colony because of the writing, amongst other things. Wouldn't the writing automatically translate itself for him?
Only when the Tardis feels like it.
how come he got drunk in Transit, then?
That was a different body.
Why would Calamee go with TAIN rather than the Doctor?
The heart is notoriously irrational.
Fitz decides this is an Earth colony because of the writing, amongst other things. Wouldn't the writing automatically translate itself for him?
Only when the Tardis feels like it.
Ah, but how would he KNOW whether or not Sexy was feeling like it?
Why would Calamee go with TAIN rather than the Doctor?
The heart is notoriously irrational.
I don't think she's IN LOVE with Tain. He's a SHIP, after all. And, while it's not exactly a Mel-n'Glitz-type situation, why the hell would anyone who obviously liked the Eighth Doctor so much choose a brain-damnaged genocidal spaceship over HIM?
(Alright, the Doc's also brain-damaged and genocidal but...he's THE DOCTOR.)
Well, I suppose Tain was better at bringing that stupid monkey (mokey. Whatever) back to life than the Doc was...
Ah, but how would he KNOW whether or not Sexy was feeling like it?
He's making assumptions. She's never bothered translating text for him before, as far as he knows, so he wrongly assumes she can't.
why the hell would anyone who obviously liked the Eighth Doctor so much choose a brain-damnaged genocidal spaceship over HIM?
She doesn't have to share Tain with Fritz and Trix, nor would she be just the latest in a long line of companions. That, and the heart is irrational. People make sub-optimal choices all the time, driven by a subconscious that evolved on the African savannah, and 'thinks' we're still living there.
He's making assumptions. She's never bothered translating text for him before, as far as he knows, so he wrongly assumes she can't.
OK, SOMEONE's gotta read all fifty Fitz books and discover whether he ever does any READING on alien planets. Admittedly nothing is springing to mind.
She doesn't have to share Tain with Fritz and Trix, nor would she be just the latest in a long line of companions.
Such things would indeed be annoying, but if I'm prepared to put up with them...
That, and the heart is irrational. People make sub-optimal choices all the time, driven by a subconscious that evolved on the African savannah, and 'thinks' we're still living there.
And I suppose there IS always the fact that she ASKED to go with the Doctor and he said no. But what sort of self-respecting person wouldn't promptly stow away?? And Calamee so obviously has Companion Material stamped all over her that even FITZ assumes she'll be joining the TARDIS crew.
'Non-white colonists who followed a skewed version of Christianty' - DWM review. What, you mean there's a standard, non-skewed version of Christianity somewhere?? And why is it more skewed to have black Madonnas and Childs than it is to have white ones?
'Are you aware that your memory has been interfered with on thirty-seven separate occasions - eight of them still outstanding' - blimey, that's quite drastic, even for The Amnesiac Doctor.
I'm now feeling like it's a gross underestimation...
'Do you have a girlfriend? A boyfriend?' - oh riiiiight, suddenly homosexuality is completely normal on this rabidly Catholic planet...
Though I suppose once you've got a dolphin pope you start worrying less about that sort of thing...
Fitz decides this is an Earth colony because of the writing, amongst other things. Wouldn't the writing automatically translate itself for him?
Yes according to New Who. No according to most of the novels and Old Who (well, Creature From the Pit anyway).
A Maker? What, like the ones in The Space Age??
Not according to the Reference Guide:
'According to the author, the Makers are the creators of the Psionosphere from the short story Confabula, and bear no relation to the creatures from The Space Age.'
Er, yeah, whatever.
'"I have lived for over eight hundred years," said Tain. "Nothing, I admit, compared to you"' - oh come on, Eight is only, what, around 1,100 year old? (Excluding Orbis, obviously.)
Of course, Tain, like, er, those flapping bits of cloth in Ghost Monument, might have spotted the Doctor's missing TIMELESS CHILDREN!! memories...
why the hell would anyone who obviously liked the Eighth Doctor so much choose a brain-damnaged genocidal spaceship over HIM?
Come to think of it, after seducing the Eighth Doctor and nicking his cat (Dying Days), Bernice Summerfield decided to spend a lot of time hanging around with stupid naked Angel Clarence instead (Walking to Babylon, Ghost Devices, the gods arc), and didn't HE turn out to be a brain-damaged genocidal spaceship (Twilight of the Gods)...? So it's just possible I was a teeny bit wrong, here. God, people are WEIRD.