Moderator's Note: moved from the now-defunct 'Rogue's Gallery' section:

Interesting...

You all look... like normal people with lives. HOW CAN IT BE?

Oh, and are you absolutely sure that's Forbidden Planet? This may sound sad but I'm pretty sure that it isn't because of the books in the background, unless it's a pretty old photo, which IIRC it isn't because Luiner mentioned it on here recently.

Ed, it wasn't Forbidden Planet, it was the Doctor Who Shop in East Ham. Mike must have gotten a little confused. Pete can testify. Mike has been a bit busy recently, so some forgiveness is needed here.

So as punishment, you must all send photos of yourselves to Mike so we all know what you look like.

Just checked out the gallery and 'wa-hey', it IS strange seeing what all these people look like. I know I haven't really been on this board as long as the rest of you (only about 3 months actually) but I can safely say that everyone's picture is completely different to how I would have imagined them. And yes, no 'Star Wars' jokes is a welcome request - I've been copping them all my life

I'm strangely red in the photo. (shudders)

Is it just me, or does Nicola Bryant look smashed or drunk or something?

She was just drunk with my immense masculine presence.

More likely though, it was the camera. It has this strobe setting in the flash to reduce red-eye and she wasn't expecting it and squinted.

Then again, maybe she went to the pub during a break in the autograph signing.

Frankly, the camera didn't do her justice. She looked better now than she did during Doctor Who (which was pretty amazing!) and certainly better than the Blackadder Christmas special. I was quite frankly dumbfounded as to what to say to her. I somehow managed to ask her to sit with me while Pete took our photo.

But I didn't ask her to put her arm around my shoulder...oh wow, what if...she actually felt some attraction for me...and where exactly was her left hand heading for...

...my God (or lack thereof), all the things I've could have said or ask to her. After that brief moment of contact my IQ went down to imbecile stage and I muttered a stuttered thanks and left. My mouth dry, but strangely I felt elated. Pete must have thought I was insane. But Peri will never know I have traveled thousands of miles to see her.


By the way, Luke, what kind of music do you play?

Pete, if it's anybody that looks red in the Fitzroy photo, it's me. I was probably drinking more than you. If memory serves, quite a bit more than you.

Sorry, I made the assumption that it was Forbidden Planet, because I never even dreamed that there was a Doctor Who Store!!! Now I've really got to start looking for cheap airfare to London!

Pete, any strange coloration may be due to my monkeying around with Photo Shop.

EdJe is now in the gallery.

There are 2 such stores in London, both in strict competition, it would seem. The Who Shop - which was were Luiner physically got to grips with Nicola Bryant - and The 10th Planet, which that day had JNT signing something or other. Luiner didn't feel the need to touch him. And certainly, because of the lack of photographic evidence, (Luiner didn't feel the need to photograph him either), we may well have imagined him.

I guess we Britfans are on the whole pretty blase about seein' 'em in the flesh. I've seen Susan, Steven, Polly, Ben, Jamie, Liz Shaw, Donald Tosh, Sarah-Jane, Romana I, Romana II, (hubba hubba), Nyssa, Peri, Ace, JNT, The Fourth Doctor, The Fifth Doctor, the Sixth Doctor, the Seventh Doctor, the Third Master, (or whatever incarnation Ainley is - but I'm gonna call him The Third Master for now), Will Chandler from 'The Awakening', the Brigadier, Will Barton's character from 'Survival', and probably a few others. Oh, and about six Daleks along the way. And K9. And a few Cybermen, a Voc, an Ice Warrior, (they're taller than me, fact fans), a Plasmaton, Davros, a Sea-Devil, (quite impressive in real-life), and a Warriors Silurian head. And probably a few others. The only person who I didn't properly meet/get an autograph off of was Peter Purves, who through poor convention organisation I had to jettison in order to get other peoples'. But I kinda 'saw' him from the back of a packed room.

Oh, and I've danced with Michael Sheard. Who is absolutely brilliant and mad all at once.

I have stacks of photos I might scan-post to Mike, so you guys can get a feel of what it might be like at conventions.

I'm so blase now that I won't be going to what would be my seventh one in Feb.

[Ends boast]

And also Julian Glover, Christophers Robbie and Benjamin, David Troughton, Peter 'Doctor Warlock' Copley, and some others on stage in Stratford-upon-Avon once. Christopher Robbie, as an interesting footnote, spits as he speaks in great visible globules. The inside of the Cyberleader helmet must've been well coated.

Wow Edge, you have three heads arranged in a totem pole effect. I must say you never sounded three-headed.

I've only ever met Katy Manning, Tristram Cary and Robert Jewell.

Putting faces to all these names has been an enlightening experience, to say the least!

Some good news from the Chief Nitpicker-his most recent e-mail to me said that, while we are all still over storage capacity, it's not currently causing any probelms. And he's looking for another host so we don't have to make any more cuts.

I'm still going to keep the gallery separate from the boards. It's easier for me to maintain.

lol...after I retouched the photos, Mike retouches them again. Gotta love it.

But Pete, have you met the immortal Kamelion?

Actually, I did take a picture of JNT, but I didn't feel bothered to scan it into my PC.

I wouldn't mind meeting Katy Manning, but I understand she lives in Oz, which explains how Chris met her. And I really don't feel like flying to Oz. The UK was long enough flight (10+ hours from Dallas nonstop).

I wonder, I think the actor who plays Sergeant Benton lives in the States, now.

Mike, serves you right for not actually reading the words in my email. You must be one of those who don't read the articles in magazines...

Pete, how you can be blase around the likes of Nicola, I will never understand. If I had met her as many times as you claimed to me back in London, I would've have asked her out on a date (it helps that me and her are roughly the same age, and I have absolutely no idea about her marital status, and please nobody tell me). You are probably one of those that if you came across a Dalek, you would probably show it where the elevators are so it wouldn't have to negotiate the stairs.

What really bothers me is that everybody has more hair than me. Even Mike has less forehead showing than me. Thank goodness there isn't a pic showing the back of my head.

Regarding music: play punk, alternative, metal, etc - if it's loud and fast I'll try to play it.

Regarding doctor who people: I've never met any. Actually I've never been to a convention and I only know three other Doctor Who fans, two of which I introduced the show to.

Nicola is married to someone or other. Short, stocky, dark-haired troll who looks like someone I know called Andy. Which doesn't mean anything to anyone. I think asking her out on a date like you suggest would be about the most wrong thing to do.

Funnily enough, I've never seen a moving Dalek. They've all been carefully-positioned props. It would be interesting to see a moving one.

As for Kamelion, I don't know. I think I saw the prop at Longleat once, but I can't remember. The place doesn't allow photographs to be taken, the basts. I think I may have seen the fabulous Kandy Man there too.

I remember seeing a Dalek trundling through the streets of Perth back in 1983, to promote The Doctor Who Technical Manual. Instead of a laser it fired tassly tinsel.

Lunier--sorry for the extra retouching. I have a laptop, so the picture looked off to me.

No prob, Mike, I knew you had to at least resize it to save memory. Plus the red eye was pretty bad.

Pete, I distinctly said something to the effect that I don't want to know that particular detail. Thanks, Man, for blowing that fantasy. Now I have to start dating real women who don't play characters on popular Sci Fi series. I guess that means Joanna Lumley is out, too. Or Jacqueline Pearce...or that alien woman with the weird eyebrows on Space 1999. What else must I give up on, the green dancing girl from Classic Star Trek? 7 of 9? Agent Scully?

There, there, Luiner, don't give up hope...have you never heard of divorce?

And who's to say any of these ladies wouldn't mind a little nooky on the side? Hey, if it's good enough for 'Melrose Place', then anything is possible.
(P.S.- Sorry, but I have dibs on the Green Orion Slave Girl, but you can have Yeoman Rand in exchange!)

Say, how did we go from posting pictures to planning affairs with former SF babes??

It's all done with mirrors.

Has anybody gone back and looked at the page? My picture has been up since December 15th.

Well, hello there Nawdle (I am assuming that is you in front and not the guy with the camera). Didn't see you. Guess I never got around to scrolling down the page after staring at my pic with Peri. That and the board has been a little slow, lately.

Thanks Emily, hope remains eternal. Maybe she gets a divorce. As far as extramarital nookie, I guess I am too selfish and want her all for myself. Not to say I wouldn't say no if that one in a trillion chance should ever happen...

By the way, I must apologise for being sexist. Here we are talking about Sci Fi Babes, and I am sure Emily has no interest in them. I guess we must talk about Sci Fi Hunks to even things up for her. I am sure Emily likes Doc #4, but how about Hercules, Fox Mulder, Captain Kirk, etc, etc. Just what Sci Fi Hunk turns you on. Oh, and can you explain in great and maybe graphic detail the reasons why.

Wow. You look just like Jadlad Superguy, only without the mask.

Er, thanks Luiner, glad to see that the feminist movement hasn't been entirely in vain, but to be honest the last thing I want to talk about is Sci Fi Hunks. Even my adoration of the Fourth Doctor is entirely platonic.

Wow. You look just like Jadlad Superguy, only without the mask.

LOL! Only if he was overweight, balding (I already have less hair than when that picture was taken.) and nearsighted Keith.

Errr, I don't get the Jadlad Superguy reference. I feel so ignorant (bangs head against the wall while repeating "ztupid...ztupid...ztupid".

Wow, I didn't realize it, but with a beard on you, Nawdle, you are me. I am you. You must be my long lost evil twin.

Jadlad Superguy is Nawdles character in the League of Intergalactic Cosmic Champions.

An artist's rendition of Jadlad can be found here
http://www.geocities.com/TheLICC/artgallery2.htm

LICC is an adventure storyboard that started here at NitCentral.

Hmmmm. Interesting that a certain artist named Keith Allen Morgan has the same initials as KAM.

Coincidence?

If a certain Keith Allen Morgan draws a superhero based on my likeness, I would want my superhero name to Loonybin, or Luinatic.

There's an artist named Keith Allen Morgan?

Well, I'd like to meet him.

Maybe if Loonybin or Luinatic were a member of LICC, his picture might end up in the Art Gallery.

The current adventures of LICC are in the Star Wars Jedi's Sink under Misc Star Wars Stuff, I believe.

Since the new series began, I've been pleased to see a host of new names appear on these message boards. I'd like to invite all the regular posters, old and new, to say a little something about themselves in this thread.

Since I suggested it, I'll go first--

Name: Mike Konczewski
Age: 47
Occupation: Property manager
Role: Your humble moderator
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Fan of Doctor Who since 1980(ish)
Non-Who TV shows I watch: SpongeBob Squarepants, The Daily Show, the non-anime parts of [adult swim]
Marital Status: Married, one daughter
Other things I do for fun: edit Wikipedia articles, read (a lot), cook

I was thinking something along these lines too. Glad you started it, Mike.

Name: Kevin. Posted for a while as 'goog' and a few other names before that, mostly obvious ones like 'Kevin S.'
Age: 38
Occupation: Let's just say, that desipte all my typos, I'm working on a Ph.D in linguistics.
Location: Chicago is home, but I've lived in Korea for over six years.
Fan of Doctor Who since: also about 1980
Marital status: Nine years as of last week. No children, no plans.
Other shows I watch: (current)--> Sopranos, Lost; (past)-->Blakes 7 (I can even remember when Emily posted on the B7 boards), classic sitcoms like The Dick van Dyke Show.
Hobbies: I play piano and guitar. I collect CDs and DVDs. (The picture I posted yesterday is a small part of the collection.)

And since it's so out there and unlikely to come up in any other context, I'll add that I have a degree in music composition.

Name: Keith Alan Morgan, KAM for short (although I've been known to use the occasional joke name around here)
Occupation: Varied, I'm currently trying to get an internet business running, although I can also call myself a professional artist & writer (but just barely)
Location: Western Washington
Fan of Doctor Who Since: When Pinnacle released the novelizations in the '70s (which was the first I had heard about this show), but I never saw the show until '85 or '86.
Hobbies: Nitpicking, Joking, Cartooning

Name: Alice
Occupation: Public Affairs person
Location: London, UK
Fan of Doctor Who: since birth. My mum and dad watched from 'An unearthly Child' and I was born 8 months later...(hang on...? No, no...I was born a couple of weeks late...)
Hobbies: DOCTOR WHO! And doll collecting. And you'd be amazed at the amount of folks who crossover between the two hobbies!

Name: Chris Todaro
Occupation: Radio Announcer
Doctor Who Fan Since:1979
Location: Danbury, Connecticut
Other Shows Regularly Watched: Star Trek, Space:1999, Red Dwarf, anthing having to do with Superman (Smallville, etc), and most of the shows on Food Network (favorite show there is Good Eats)
Hobbies:Cooking, music of all kinds, and (of course) Doctor Who
Favorite Doctor: Colin Baker (but they're all good!)

And a photo. Tom Baker with a beard?
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/9361/dvc000068sv.jpg

Name: Emily Carter (OK, OK...Emily Gabriel Carter. D'you have any IDEA how embarrassing it is having a male angel in the middle of your name when you're an atheist feminist?)

Age: 33

Occupation: Retired, tee hee. Alright, part-time political researcher, but mainly very early retired, due to chronic fatigue syndrome. Or laziness. One or the other.

Doctor Who Fan Since: Eternity began. Hand of Fear is my earliest memory.

Location: London. Great place for alien invasions.

Marital Status: You're joking.

Other Shows: Don't be ridiculous. If I'm ever unfaithful to Who I'm certainly not going to ADMIT it.

Hobbies: Alright, I confess...at some deluded points in my life I foolishly believed I had interests that weren't Who. I may even have spent 30 years thinking that books were my life. Hell, a whole decade was squandered obsessing about African democracy revolutions as if they were actually more important than Doctor Who. But now the new series has taught me the error of my ways.

Well if it's good enough for Emily....

Name: Rodney Hrvatin

Age:32

Occupation: I teach violin and Piano as well as conduct or play in musicals.

Doctor Who Fan Since: The McCoy years. "Dragonfire" converted me.

Location: Adelaide, South Australia

Marital Status: In a relationship

Other shows: Lost, 24, The Shield, most of the Star Treks, Blakes 7, Red Dwarf, Family Guy.

Hobbies: See occupation. That and laughing at Emily's rants....er....highly intelligent, well thought out and brilliantly written comments.

Name: Emily Carter (OK, OK...Emily Gabriel Carter. D'you have any IDEA how embarrassing it is having a male angel in the middle of your name when you're an atheist feminist?)

Knock a couple of years off your age and start claiming you were named after Gabriel "Sutekh" Woolf.

OK
Name: Chris Marks
Age: 33
Occupation: IT and self-confessed geek
Doctor Who Fan Since:Erm, pass. Earliest episode I remember is Full Circle, so probably since then, if not earlier.
Location: Berkshire, UK
Marital Status: Young, free and single.
Other Shows Regularly Watched: When they were on Trek (up to the end of DS9), Buffy, B5, X-Files - plus older series like B7 and Gerry Anderson shows like Thunderbirds and Captain Scarlet. Currently running - Stargate Sg-1 and Atlantis, 24 and Scrapheap Challenge. Utterly despise any "reality" show like Big Brother.
Hobbies:As said for occupation - self-confessed geek (so computer games, RPGs, wargaming etc). Also a Liverpool supporter and fan of American Football (Miami ), and usually manage to get across on a tour around thanksgiving to watch a few games.
Favorite Doctor: Again, erm. Undecided between Tom and Jon.

And for a new category - Favorite Companions: Romana (either), Peri and Sarah-Jane.

Occupation: I teach violin and Piano as well as conduct or play in musicals.

Cool, Rodney. I conducted a musical before and it was a blast.

Name: Callie Sullivan
Age: Thirty-fifteen
Occupation: Doing as little as possible while masquerading as a secretary for a teachers’ union.
Doctor Who fan since: Very vague recollection of Troughton; started watching properly in the Pertwee days; stopped watching in the C Baker days; restarted (and addicted ever since) when the Eccleston era began.
Location: Erith, south London
Marital status: Forever hopeful but stopped holding my breath a long time ago because my permanently blue face wasn’t attracting the right sort of men.
Other shows watched: Stargate SG-1 (addicted up to the end of Season 7, have watched since then more out of obligation than enjoyment); Stargate Atlantis; Lost (but getting bored early into Season 2); Buffy; Angel; Farscape; Star Trek TNG, DS9, VOY (for my sins); BSG (1st season – wasn’t inspired to buy the DVDs for Season 2). Also love the following British shows: Top Gear; Grumpy Old Men; Eight out of Ten Cats; QI.
Hobbies: Write transcripts of episodes of Stargate Atlantis (used to do SG-1); write summaries of the commentaries on SGA episodes. As a fan of Formula 1 Grand Prix, I have a website which gives the humorous and sarcastic comments of a British commentator, Martin Brundle, after each race. Moderator of the Stargate, Farscape and MST3K sections of Nitcentral.
Favourite Doctor: Tom Baker (I had a huge crush on him from day 1 and started writing to him before most other kids had got used to him. As a result, I had several personal letters and signed photos from him, including one photo of Tom Baker – as opposed to the Doctor – with his hands down his trousers! [don’t ask ...] and got a mention in a magazine article he wrote!)
Favourite Companions: Jo and (please don’t kill me or ban me from this site!) Turlough (well, I had a crush on him when I was very much younger - even wrote to him and got a signed photo! - but I got better).

Favorite Doctor: Colin Baker

What an embarrassing slip of the fingers! But don't worry, we all realise you meant TOM Baker.

And a photo. Tom Baker with a beard?

Sadly not. But you wouldn't need TOO much plastic surgery...

Knock a couple of years off your age and start claiming you were named after Gabriel "Sutekh" Woolf.

So you think I should be named after the most powerful evil in the cosmos, do you...?

Sounds good to me! Thanks!

Are Who fans more musical than the average? I used to play the cello, harp, double bass and several types of recorder, but as I haven't touched any of 'em since I left home, I evidently only did so cos my mum made me...

Marital status: Forever hopeful but stopped holding my breath a long time ago because my permanently blue face wasn’t attracting the right sort of men.

Come to Tavern sometime - the female of the species is so vanishingly rare that you'll have your pick of scores of fanatical Whovians, and even real live writers who've held the Doctor's destiny in their hands...

got a mention in a magazine article he wrote!)

My god - what did he SAY about you?!

(please don’t kill me or ban me from this site!) Turlough

I don't think liking Turlough's a killing offence...he was certainly more interesting than most of the losers the Doctor picked up...alright, so trying to smash the Doctor's head in with a rock didn't exactly endear him to ME, but to each her own...

Favourite Doctor: Christopher Eccleston. It doesn't matter that I spent 30 years in the utter certainty that no other Doctor could match the Scarfed One, it doesn't even matter that the leather jacketed git betrayed and abandoned us all. He's just...THE Doctor.

Favourite Companion: Rose, Captain Jack, K9 or Romana II. Haven't quite decided.

Callie!

Erith?

I'm in Woolwich!!

Blimey

Are Who fans more musical than the average?
I directed a barbershop chorus until about 8 years ago – does that count?

My god - what did he SAY about you?!
I didn’t exactly get my name in lights, but it was his first article in a regular series in a now long-defunct weekly newspaper called Reveille. He said something about how he was having to get used to getting so many letters from fans, and that they weren’t always just short letters asking for signed photos, “like the girls who write to me from Sidcup and South Wales”. I was the one in Sidcup. I cringe now when I think how I used to ramble on to him while he was foolish enough to reply. Luckily for him, once the fan mail really started arriving he didn’t have time to write personal replies any more and I took the hint when, instead of his usual personal reply, all that was enclosed was yet another picture of the Doctor with a photocopied signature instead of a real one.

I'm in Woolwich!!
Always weird to find that your next door neighbour posts on the same boards, isn’t it, Alice?! I’ll wave next time my train sails through Woolwich Arsenal station without stopping. ;-)

Favorite Doctor: Colin Baker

What an embarrassing slip of the fingers! But don't worry, we all realise you meant TOM Baker.

You know from our past debates that I did mean Colin. Tom is my second favorite. (by the way, there is so little difference in my personal ratings of the Doctors that they are almost completely equal in my book.)

You know from our past debates that I did mean Colin.

Yeah *sigh* I know, I know. I was just hoping that if I denied this reality it would...go away.

I mean - Colin Baker? COLIN BAKER??? *Adopts Colin Baker-style tone of voice* COLIN BAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See? We've all got a little sixth Doctor in us.

I MOST CERTAINLY HAVE NOT!

*Attacks Chis with acid bath*

You forgot to strangle me, too!

Are Who fans more musical than the average?

Most of us seem to be artists or performers of some sort. (Although I almost went into psychology. Does come in handy with my co-workers.)

I guess I should sign in....

Name: Josh Mastin
Age: 21
Occupation: Student
Fan of Doctor Who since: When Sci-Fi started running the new series this year. I'm a newbie. It's fantastic.
Marital status: Single
Other shows I watch: Lost, Battlestar Galactica, the Stargates, Scrubs, 24, My Name is Earl, The Office (UK and US), South Park, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, and I used to watch Farscape and the Treks when they were on.
Hobbies: Cards, golf, and I collect bottle caps

So has the new series inspired you to get hold of some of the original series episodes?

Name: Luke Bartolo
Age: 26
Occupation: I sell books
Role: I don't really understand this question hahaha. I used to post here a couple of years ago but I'm not sure if anyone will remember me.
Location: Western Sydney, Australia
Fan of Doctor Who since: 1987 or thereabouts
Non-Who TV shows I watch: Men Behaving Badly, Degrassi Junior High/Degrassi High, Press Gang, Coupling, Blackadder, The Late Show (Australian),
Marital Status: relationship
Other things I do for fun: play in bands, write blogs for films, bands and books, read, host a yearly made-up holiday dedicated to drinking beer

Name: Rania Melhem
Occupation: Librarian
Location: New Orleans (Harvey to be precise), Louisiana
Fan of Doctor WHo since: March 2006, when I saw Rose and fell in love and lust.
Favorite Doctor: CHristopher Eccleston
Non-Who TV shows that I watch: Buffy, Angel, Supernatural, Hex, Star Trek (all varieties but not Deep Space Nine), Babylon 5, Veronica Mars.
Marital Status: Single
Other THings I do for fun: Read, Watch movies, crosswords, spider solitaire with two suits, run away from hurricanes

I hope Katrina left your house alone, Rania.

It did, I was one of the very lucky.I actually ended in your neck of the woods during the evacuation, I spent three weeks in Bryn Mawr at my brother's house.

I saw Rose and fell in love and lust

Y'know, there's room for a lot of confusion when the character and the episode have the same name...

I did mean the episode. I can't figure out how to bold and italicize on this site.

Put a , then an i, then a { in front of the word, then put a } after the word. I think if you click on Formatting, under the Documentation file folder (look to the left), it will have instructions on italics, bold, and the like.

Gee, too bad you weren't posting back then, Rania. You could have stopped by and visited my Who collection.

I would have loved to visit your Who collection, but I wasn't even a Who fan back then despite Emily's best efforts.

Rania: I saw Rose and fell in love and lust

Emily: Y'know, there's room for a lot of confusion when the character and the episode have the same name...

Yeah, and in my case, it's both. ;)

Ooh, speaking of Who collections, Lawrence's is up for sale:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lawrence-Miles-Doctor-Who-Video-and-CD-Collection_W0QQitemZ190007253646QQihZ009QQcategoryZ75510QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Doctor-Dr-Who-Collection-of-All-33-Missing-Adventures_W0QQitemZ190009940766QQihZ009QQcategoryZ21540QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and as I'm the one selling 'em, I'd really appreciate everyone bidding lots and lots of money. Er...providing they actually WANT the stuff, of course. And don't live in America or something.

Oh, and while I'm telling people what to do...

http://nta.itv.com/

Vote! Vote NOW!

Gee, guess he wasn't kidding in "About Time" when said he'd lose all interest in the show after the book was done.

The About Times threatened to burn 'em in one great pyre, I suppose this is more environmentally friendly as well as more profitable, though still a hideous act of treachery. Mind you, I'm sure he'll repent of his evil ways once he's had a few years to get over watching 'em frame by frame, and it's not as if he doesn't adore the new series as much as anyone...

I have noticed that Lawrence tends to be bit, shall we say, impulsive.

Maybe you can answer a question for me about the "About Time" books. I noticed, beginning in volume #4, that the Critique sections began to split into "Prosecution" and "Defense". I'm assuming that this meant Tat and LM had differing opinions on those episodes. Was LM consistantly on one side, or does him view depend on the story?

Basically he hates Graham Williams and loves Christopher Bidmead (Logopolis is his FAVOURITE STORY* for god's sake), so he's all the 'Prosecutions' in Volume IV and all the 'Defences' in Volume V...

*Old Who story, anyway

Re:Laurence Miles
He's getting married soon, to a fellow Whovian, that posts on Outpost Gallifrey, under the Name of Tegan.....

I, ah, get the impression the wedding's off (that 'impulsive' thing again).

If you want to see what I look and sound like here's a website I just made:


http://christophertodaro.voice123.com/

Just a small note to say if any of you want to see what I look like or what I do during the day you can find me on facebook (there's no other Rodney Hrvatins around) or my myspace

Who else around here has one of these?

No I don't.

God, I'd forgotten how weird it was seeing pictures of Internet people. At least there are no cats being harmed in the photo. What the hell are you doing quoting Babylon 5? Can Who not provide you with a suitable quote??

I've posted this before, but you can see what I look and sound like (and hire me if you wish) right here:


http://voice123.com/christophertodaro

God, I'd forgotten how weird it was seeing pictures of Internet people. At least there are no cats being harmed in the photo. What the hell are you doing quoting Babylon 5? Can Who not provide you with a suitable quote??

It happens to be a very pertinent quote that means a lot to me. I love my Who but I just couldn't think of anything that summed up my thoughts more than that.

I've been here, off and on, for a fair amount of time, so perhaps I should fill this in, although I tend not to post much when I'm not watching (or reading or listening to) Who. It's not so often I wander over into other parts of this board so I'm a bit late catching up.

Name: Mandy Gordon
Age: 42 (when did that happen?)
Occupation: US Air Force
Location: Sumter, South Carolina (the AF's idea)
Fan of Doctor Who since the late Pertwee era
Non-Who TV shows I watch, or used to: Star Trek (all incarnations, including DS9), B5, B7, X-files, lots of stuff on BBCAmerica (it's a shame they stopped showing Ground Force, but at least they've got Top Gear now)
Marital Status: Single (I never even managed to keep a cat for more than 3 days)
Other things I do for fun: hiking, horseback riding, drawing, reading, planning my retirement in two years
Favorite Doctor: used to be Tom, but David's got it now
Favorite Companion: used to be Sarah Jane, but now I'd have to go with Rose, although Donna and Tegan were a blast, and I too am a closet Turlough fan

Name: Tim McCree
Age: Old enough!
Location: Canada
Fan of Doctor Who since the late 1970's.
Non-Who TV shows I watch: Star Trek (all of them), Ghost Whisperer, Charmed, Will & Grace, Friends, American Idol and too many more to list here.
Marital Status: Single
Favourite Who Companion: Nyssa of Traken
Favourite Who Era: First two seasons of the Fifth Doctor, with the Fourth Doctor taking second place.


I have some Who stories at Teaspoon And An Open Mind, a great Who fan fiction site. I posted a link to it in the Who Links thread, if any of you are interested (look up Tim in the Authors section if you're curious about my stories). I have to warn you, I am a Nyssa/Tegan shipper, so if you don't like that kind of story, don't read them (although most of the reviews I did get on those stories were positive ones).

Here in Canada, the New Series airs on CBC (our version of the BBC, except it has commercials, and we don't need a license to own a television set). The first season of Torchwood has also aired on CBC. Haven't seen any sign of the Sarah Jane Adventures, but I will keep my eyes open for it!

BTW: I recognize a fellow member from Teaspoon here, Grimley Fieendish! Small world!

Name John A. Lang
Age Born: 1963
Occupation Pharmacutical Employee
Location Northern Illinois
Marital Status Single
Favorite Doctor Tom Baker
Favorite Companion Sarah Jane Smith

Name; Steve McKinnon
Age; Born in the 20th century. (Okayokayokay, 1961-- pre-Who)
Occupation; Data entry manager
Location; Toronto, Canada
Marital Status; Married 18 years to a non-Who fan! (Yikes! And she's still with me!)
Hobbies; Writing, watching Who and sci-fi in general every weekend.
Other shows watched; The five Trek series, Brit series like 1999, and UFO, Seinfeld, other stuff.
Fan Since; Mid-'70s. The series was shown on TVOntario, then I got to see alot more on PBS in the early '80s.
Favourite Doctor; The Third-- the first one I watched.
Favourite Companions; Sarah Jane, Jo, and Ace.
Jelly Baby Status; Never tried one.
Better Late Then Never; Signed onto ebay 3 years ago, and started buying old VHS tapes of episodes I never recorded originally on PBS in the '80s.

If I may give a shameless plug for myself, the radio station I work for is now finally streaming on line. You can hear it at www.wfasam.com. Click on "Listen Live." I'm on every morning 6am to 10AM New York time. You'll have to figure out what time that is in your area. (and I don't use my real name on the air just in case you were wondering.)

Mike, why do you need a Victorian? Can I help- I'm in the next state over?

It's a bit of a long story. I was wokring on a Wikipedia article on the magician Maskelyne, and was trying to find a photo of him. I came across one on the Victoria Public Library website. They do allow you electronically publish photos from their collection, but Wikipedia will only let me upload the photo with the Library's permission. I can only get that permission by snail mail. If you wouldn't mind helping out, I can send you the request form.

you can email me the details Mike and just tell me what you need done.

Will do. I was going to do it this, but I got behind getting ready for my vacation. I'll be back in two weeks.

That means Emily is in charge doesn't it? Ofc ourse if you'd rather someone else I am also a mod :D

Don't even THINK about it...

No, I'm cool, thanks.

I've a blog. No pictures of me, but there are some episode reviews for Doctor Who.

And a few book reviews, of course ;) No Who yet. I may have first encountered Who via books (The older ones, and I can't remember who published them), but this country has a distinct lack of them, on the whole.

Kevin:

Blakes 7 (I can even remember when Emily posted on the B7 boards),

You can? She did? Emily? On another board? WHERE?

(Yes, I went looking for the posts; didn't find them, either)

August 3, 1999, on the Kerr Avon board.

Wow.

It's really there. Evidence that Emily watches some other show!

And she says she likes Avon!!

I never said I didn't watch lesser programmes (especially lesser programmes by the Human Davros himself), I just said that I didn't ADMIT it.

Although it never materialised (of which I'm surprisingly glad), Tom Baker and Terry Nation did plan a Doctor Who/Blake's 7 crossover.

Also there's a thread on the B7 pages about the many actors who have appeared on both. And as Emily points out, it was created by Terry Nation who created the Daleks.

So B7 isn't straying too far.

Although it never materialised (of which I'm surprisingly glad), Tom Baker and Terry Nation did plan a Doctor Who/Blake's 7 crossover.

God, what an awful idea...I think that stupid PDA Corpse Marker was supposed to be a crossover (and possibly the Kaldor City audios as well, only I can't actually remember enough about 'em to be sure).

Also there's a thread on the B7 pages about the many actors who have appeared on both. And as Emily points out, it was created by Terry Nation who created the Daleks.

So B7 isn't straying too far.

You are too kind. ANY sort of straying from Who - even during the Sixteen Long And Barren Years - is too far and should be punishable by flogging, at least.

The crossover was to occur at the end of B7's second series, the climatic story on Star One which Blake wants to destroy to cripple the Federation's communication but which Travis uses to dismantle the security network keeping aliens out of our galaxy. Those aliens invade mostly in the opener of series 3, and off-camera at that.

They were to have been the Daleks.

Which would have been a really idea, especially if the Federation was to win (unaided by, you know, Who).

Oh, for heaven's sake.

Quite apart from anything else, aren't the Daleks from OUR galaxy...?

Thanks. I got a good chuckle at the thought of Terry Nation being consistent in story details like that.

Doctor who? Just wanted to update my earliest post in this thread. I've finished my doctorate, which is not purely honorary nor did I scrape by with 51% on the second attempt.

So Doctor who? Doctor me!

Kevin! Congratulations!!!

No doubt, like Quintus, you owe it all to THE Doctor...

Have you ever thought about changing your surname to 'Who'...?

Mazel Tov.

Yay! Congrats, Doctor!

Congratulations, Kevin, on getting your doctorate, though I would not recommend, change your surname to Who, as Emily suggests, as it may lead to you being obsessed with Element X, & as a result, building Giant Robot Gorillas...

Oh Mark, mark, mark....that last post may as well have been written in Swahili for all Emily would understand of that....

Congratulations, Kevin.

Well done! What was the doctorate inÉ (that was supposed to be a question mark, but this borrowed computer is messed up).

Thanks, everyone. Won't be changing my name though. One Doctor is enough for this universe.

Mandy, in linguistics.

Interesting. Tops my 3 yrs of French then.

Yeah - French is gonna be pretty useless once Mr Allons-y! has betrayed and aban - er - I mean, has nobly sacrificed his life to save the universe. (Or tripped over a brick. Whatever.) But linguistics...you can understand Sycoraxic and everything!

I comment once in awhile. Figured I should tell folks who I am.

Name: Aimee Phillips
Age: 29 (how is it that I can feel so young and so old at the same time?)
Occupation: Tech Support for...Eh, who knows.
Location: Phoenix, Arizona at the moment
Fan of Doctor Who: I'm sure I watched it as a kid on re-runs, but really since new Series
Non-Who TV shows I watch, or used to: Star Trek (all incarnations, including Voyager), SG-1, Stargate Atlantis, FarScape, Buffy and Angel(mostly out of love for Joss), Firefly, more recently Chuck, Heroes, NCIS, Castle, Hex, Primeval
Marital Status: Single (with my giant fuzzy black boy-cat)
Other things I do for fun: hiking, biking, swimming, reading (a lot), writing random things, being a gnome, building websites
Favorite Doctor: Tennant by far, mind you Eccleston was great but far too shortly lived
Favorite Companion: Donna or Rose; or Sarah Jane having just seen Genesis of the Daleks

Age: 29 (how is it that I can feel so young and so old at the same time?)

Cos a) it IS ridiculously young (from my nearly-37-years-old-though-still-feel-about-four-owing-to-the-fact-that-I-haven't-changed-a-bit-since-then* perspective) and b) it also happens to be OLDER THAN THE BLOKE WHO'S GONNA BE THE DOCTOR IN TWO DAYS TIME.

Tell me more about your giant fuzzy black boy-cat!

*When I was four my life was all about books, cats, and Doctor Who. And NOW look at me...

b) it also happens to be OLDER THAN THE BLOKE WHO'S GONNA BE THE DOCTOR IN TWO DAYS TIME.

I know! I was so cranked off at that! I just kept saying, how am I older than The Doctor? How does that work? And the new companion is even younger! Not as young as Rose, but she had Eccleston to sort of balance it out (one hell of an age gap!).

Tell me more about your giant fuzzy black boy-cat!

He is 4 years old, as big as a small dog, all black (though part Siamese). His name is Kaelas. His favourite hobby is licking plastic grocery bags (please don't ask, I have no idea why).

Ah, you are so lucky!

My Kitten's favourite hobby is rending human flesh...

This is just so you can put a face to the text:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/molly-dolly/formaldnce.jpg

My, aren't you young! Which probably means you'll be a bit disappointed when you get around to plowing through old Who.

You never know, Amanda. My 9 year old daughter really liked "Battlefield."

Exactly, enjoy Classic Who, Judith.

My 9 year old daughter really liked "Battlefield."

Excellent news! I thought she'd be stuck on Blink FOREVER...And excellent taste - there are even some PROPER fans who don't give Battlefield the love and respect it so richly deserves...

thanks everybody

no other comments on my photo - it was for a school dance - i know the dress is retro but it wasnt my idea

Sadly, my opinion of "Battlefield" has dropped considerably. I don't know what I saw in it when I orginally saw it, cos it's pretty awful. But Emily (my Emily, that is), liked the guys in armor for some reason. And Ace.

Update on my cat status: I now live with three of the little darlings! Life is more of a joy now that ever.

Also, I no longer live in the desert. I've made it a few thousand miles to live by the ocean on the east coast of the US.

I like cats too

Does cat-loving go along with Who-loving as a sign of superior intelligence, or something...?

THREE! Well, it's just as WELL you don't live in a bloody desert, what with their dorable fur coats...

I can't have a cat in my new house in the mountains. The coyotes eat them. Does that mean I can't be a Who fan anymore?

Of course you can! Providing you acknowledge Cats as the Supreme Beings Of The Universe (along with Time Lords...well, ONE Time Lord anyway), you still qualify.

Happy Halloween to my fellow Whovians

Halloween? Pah! If the Doctor never bothers with Halloween, I won't either.

Oh good grief, Emily, the world does NOT begin and end with Doctor Who. You need to turn off the television, get out and live a little.

You need to turn off the television, get out and live a little.

Oh Tim, Tim, Tim.... this is a woman who has never heard of The Brady Bunch. "Getting out and living a little" is simply too far....

Perhaps a twelve step program?

Step One: The "Off switch"

Step two: Walking

Step three: That mysterious portal to the other world known as "The Door"

Step 4: Turning a doorknob

Step 5: That weird smell? Fresh air...

Step 6: Combining steps two and three

Step 7: The first steps in the outside world

Step 8: Getting a life- more to it than Doctor Who and cats you know...

Step 9: Interacting with other human beings in real life

Step 10: Hobbies that aren't Doctor Who and cats

Step 11: Going to other places

Step 12: A new and better you...

Good ones, Rodney

Oh, REALLY, you two. There is absolutely no need for *shudders* such drastic measures*. Let's compromise. Tim wants me to celebrate Halloween, so...the campaign for the Doctor Who Halloween Special starts here...

*Besides which, I live in London. That weird smell is almost certainly NOT fresh air. Plus, I already interact with other human beings in real life. At Tavern. Once a month with these other human being things (assuming Who fans count as such) is MORE than enough, I can assure you.

Tim wants me to celebrate Halloween, so...the campaign for the Doctor Who Halloween Special starts here

Well, Halloween originated in Britain, they called is Samhain in ancient times. Maybe we could get the Doctor involved somehow. He wants to show Amy and Rory how Halloween got started, and they get into an adventure while doing it.

At least one episode features someone being sacrificed at Stonehenge, doesn't it? That ought to to be enough of a link.

I guess. I suppose you're talking about Matt Smith's season finale two parter.

No, it was an old Who, but for the life of me I cannot remember which Companion was supposed to be sacrificed. There was a stone circle involved, though.

Stones of Blood It wasn't Stonehenge, it was Stonehenge-like. Still, we could work on a Halloween connection there.

Was K9 and Company at Stonehedge or a different ring of stones? I think the latter but am not willing to pay the price (i.e., watch it) to find out.

I don't think any of the stone circles in Who - Stones of Blood (incidentally, it was the Doc being sacrificed, not a Companion), K9 and Co, The Thirteenth Stone, Enemy of the Bane - are Stonehenge until Pandorica Opens.

Stonehenge until Pandorica Opens

I wonder if that is where they actually filmed P.O.

According to the Confidential - yes. They got a night's filming at the real thing, and that gave them the confidence to feel they could get away with putting up one fake stone and filming all the other Stonehenge bits in Wales. It worked. Apart, obviously, from the fact that Stonehenge in THOSE days would have been twice as big, before all the bloody philistines nicked the stones for building work.

According to the Confidential - yes. They got a night's filming at the real thing, and that gave them the confidence to feel they could get away with putting up one fake stone and filming all the other Stonehenge bits in Wales. It worked.

Kind of fitting, because they say that all the stones used to make Stonehenge came from what is now Wales.

"Stones of Blood" was filmed at Rollright Stones, not Stonehenge. Keep in mind there are lots of henges in England besides Stonehenge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollright_Stones

"K9 and Company" takes place in an abandoned chapel, not at a stone circle.

Eek. How bizarre. Now you mention it, I don't actually remember stones as such, but I sure as hell assumed they were there...what kind of programme sacrifices someone to the goddess Hecate without even bothering with a stone circle? Losers.

Just letting you know I've release my latest book, SMS Mess and other plays, available through my website http://www.journosdiary.biz

Congratulations!

A bit late, but congratulations too.

Username= Chroniton8990.
Age= Mid 20's.
Gender= Male.
Specialist subject= That would be telling. ;)
Marital status= Single.
Hobbies= Not relevant.
Posting frequency= Low to medium due to do not having most of the material and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
Favourite Doctors= 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, and 9.
Hated companions= Romana II, Adric, Peri, Charlotte Pollard, Lucie Miller, Rose Tyler, Mr Hackness, the Ponds, and Clara Oswin, (or whatever she's called this week).
First Doctor Who episode= Taped Genesis of the Daleks.
Favourite .B.F. moment= When Yarvell, "accidently drowns".
Other fandoms: Not relevant.

Notes: Stopped watching regularly after VotD, regards Moffat as the Braga of Doctor Who, (ie: Fine doing single episodes under someone else but not as the show runner).

And now for the things I'll never live down.
1.I'm a northener.
2.I'm autistic.
3.I'm a Private Eye subscriber.
4.I prefer the Indoctrination Theory.
5.Ms.Carter. While I don't agree with everything she says, (which I will express in the appropriate threads over time) I still trust her opinionated reviews and hold them with higher regard then any other fan ones because they aren't, "puff pieces" and her unique shall we say, "dedicated" view of the Whoverse means they are fuller and more lore deep. Both her dedicated reviews and torrents have and continue to help me save alot of money.

However I feel the need to comment one of her opinions here. "mind you, isn't our Overlord a Trekkie or something? OBVIOUSLY there's nothing worth getting worked up about in HIS life", Emily Carter .19/4/10. 5:15am.

*Drop kicks a cat off Tower bridge*

Where to even ******* begin? Voy, Ent, JJTrek, The Destiny Trilogy, .S.T.O, the fact someone was stupid enough to give the Doomsday Machine a backstory, and the horrible fan production Hidden Frontier and it's spinoffs. Just because you don't know or care about other scifi franchises doesn't mean your allowed to disrespect the fact their fandoms can and have suffered alot more then you have with Doctor Who, (Highlander and Star Wars fans especially).

Breif side note: Post, "Mass Effect" the phrase, "synthetic phonics" conjures up the mental image of Ms. Carter teaching a class of Geth english which is kind of cute.

Favourite Doctors= 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, and 9.

Look, I realise that technically speaking they're the same person but...how can anyone love Six AND Nine?!

Hated companions= Romana II, Adric, Peri, Charlotte Pollard, Lucie Miller, Rose Tyler, Mr Hackness, the Ponds, and Clara Oswin, (or whatever she's called this week).

And again...surely anyone with the excellent taste to curl a lip in the direction of Adders, the whiny American and the useless audio bunch would WORSHIP the utterly marvellous Romana II and Rose and Captain Jack Harkness (assuming that's who you meant...)?

Favourite .B.F. moment= When Yarvell, "accidently drowns".

Yeah, that WAS fun.

Other fandoms: Not relevant.

THAT'S the spirit!

I'm a northener.

Lots of planets have a north!

I'm a Private Eye subscriber.

Well, none of us have accused it of lying about the whole Moffat/Skinner 'erased from Doctor Who' fiasco.

I prefer the Indoctrination Theory.

What Indoctrination Theory?

I still trust her opinionated reviews and hold them with higher regard then any other fan ones because they aren't, "puff pieces" and her unique shall we say, "dedicated" view of the Whoverse means they are fuller and more lore deep. Both her dedicated reviews and torrents have and continue to help me save alot of money.

That's so sweet!

SO gratifying to hear about the money!

This place REALLY needs another audio poster and don't forget: even the worst Big Finish can be rendered very nearly worthwhile from the pleasure of ripping it into thousands of little pieces on Nitcentral...

*Drop kicks a cat off Tower bridge*

*Drops kicks V117 off Tower Bridge so he can rescue the oochie*

Just because you don't know or care about other scifi franchises doesn't mean your allowed to disrespect the fact their fandoms can and have suffered alot more then you have with Doctor Who, (Highlander and Star Wars fans especially).

I have two reactions to that (utterly mutually incompatible but I'm not gonna worry about THAT):

1. Of course they're suffering more than we ever have! They're obsessed with some stupid programme that ISN'T DOCTOR WHO! They brought it upon themselves!

2. There is NO WAY that they suffered the way WE did during The Sixteen Long And Barren Years Of Despair. WE were being ROBBED of MORE CITY OF DEATHS! Their losses were...incomparably less.

And I bet not so much of THEIR canon was BURNT ALIVE.

And I bet THEY weren't forced to plough through QUITE so many rubbish novels and audios either.

Of course Highlander fans have suffered a lot. They've had to watch Highlander!

ZING!!!!!!!!!!

Oh •••• she noticed me. Mauve alert!
Umm... do you think any humans in the Whoverse have danced to, "Staying alive" during a Mauve alert?

Look, I realise that technically speaking they're the same person but...how can anyone love Six AND Nine?!

1.I like that they actually had the gupta to go into, "midlife crisis" territory with 6 and I think Mr C.Baker did and continues to do a good job with the character, (regardless of story quality).
2.I don't see why liking one should stop me liking the other.

And again...surely anyone with the excellent taste to curl a lip in the direction of Adders, the whiny American and the useless audio bunch would WORSHIP the utterly marvellous Romana II and Rose and Captain Jack Harkness (assuming that's who you meant...)?

1.Personal preference for Romana 1 personality wise and the hash job II made of the Presidencey.
2.I hate Rose Tyler because she's an: overused, self absorbed, uninteresting, and stereotypical I love you Doctor/screamer female companion.
3.I hate Mr Harkness because he's an: overused, self absorbed prick Captain Scarlet ripoff with all the social graces and charm of a sledgehammer. He's a self made man thats more of a warning then an example. He only redeems himself as the Face of Boe.

That's so sweet! SO gratifying to hear about the money!

It's not just money but memory space too. If your computer can handle torrents I'll happily tell you where to go.

This place REALLY needs another audio poster and don't forget: even the worst Big Finish can be rendered very nearly worthwhile from the pleasure of ripping it into thousands of little pieces on Nitcentral...
I'll do what I can but it might not be much considering: work, .C.F.S., and the fact I wouldn't have much to add. I will not cover, "Chimes of Midnight" on the plum pudding principle.

*Drop kicks V117 off Tower Bridge so he can rescue the oochie*
*Drowns*

1.Of course they're suffering more than we ever have! They're obsessed with some stupid programme that ISN'T DOCTOR WHO! They brought it upon themselves!
2.There is NO WAY that they suffered the way WE did during The Sixteen Long And Barren Years Of Despair. WE were being ROBBED of MORE CITY OF DEATHS! Their losses were...incomparably less.
And I bet not so much of THEIR canon was BURNT ALIVE.
And I bet THEY weren't forced to plough through QUITE so many rubbish novels and audios either.

1.Watching your favourite franchise(s) decline in quality is worse then not having them.
2.Whoverse canon wasn't burned alive it's been retconed several times in and out of universe which is exactly what has happened to the canon of other franchises to a much greater extent then Doctor Who.
3.Most scifi franchies have an expanded universe with their fair share of bad material.
4.Doctor Who has not been as retconed as Star Wars as or raped as Star Trek, (Voy, Ent, and JJverse). Though if Moffat continues the latter is a possibility.

Anyone here read Dalek Second Empire?

We got a live one here methinks...

*grabs popcorn*

AT LAST!

SOMEONE'S remembered that it's mauve not red!

Red is camp.

I don't see why liking one should stop me liking the other.

Because one of them is SO CLEARLY the BEST DOCTOR EVER and the other one is, equally obviously, the worst.

And yes, they're both the most abrasive of Doctors but THAT merely serves to highlight how utterly utterly different they are in every conceivable way...

Personal preference for Romana 1 personality wise

If you love several Doctors you can certainly love a couple of Romanas! Especially when one of 'em is so much more FUN!

and the hash job II made of the Presidencey.

Admittedly, there hasn't been a worse presidency in the history of the universe, but just remember: the novels and audios AREN'T CANON. Don't let them spoil your joy when watching Romana II and Tom and K9 roam the universe together, the perfect TARDIS team.

Your foul slanders of our beloved Rose Tyler and Captain Jack Harkness have been dealt with in the appropriate threads.

It's not just money but memory space too. If your computer can handle torrents I'll happily tell you where to go.

I doubt my computer or I could handle torrents.

I will not cover, "Chimes of Midnight" on the plum pudding principle.

*Mournful nodding* Fair enough.

*Drop kicks V117 off Tower Bridge so he can rescue the oochie*
*Drowns*

But you rescued the oochie BEFORE drowning, right?

Watching your favourite franchise(s) decline in quality is worse then not having them.

I'm not sure it IS. Sure, the Colin Baker years were as unbearable as any of the Sixteen Long and Barren Years, but at least when Who's still going there's always the prospect that it'll get better. As indeed it did.

Whoverse canon wasn't burned alive it's been retconed several times in and out of universe which is exactly what has happened to the canon of other franchises to a much greater extent then Doctor Who.

I was talking about the destruction of all those precious, irreplaceable, only-for-this-have-the-generations-of-our-fathers-lived Hartnell and Troughton episodes the BBC DESTROYED.

I bet TREKKIES have all their episodes.

Anyone here read Dalek Second Empire?

What's Dalek Second Empire?

And yes, they're both the most abrasive of Doctors but THAT merely serves to highlight how utterly utterly different they are in every conceivable way...

Had Colin been allowed to play the Doctor as he wanted, they might very well have been the most similar, save for the hair.

I bet TREKKIES have all their episodes.

We do.

Though there are some we wish WOULD have been lost.

Had Colin been allowed to play the Doctor as he wanted, they might very well have been the most similar, save for the hair.

No.

Red is camp.
No it isn't, of the two mauve is the campest. Thats the intended, "joke".

Because one of them is SO CLEARLY the BEST DOCTOR EVER and the other one is, equally obviously, the worst.
In your opinion not mine.

If you love several Doctors you can certainly love a couple of Romanas! Especially when one of 'em is so much more FUN! Your foul slanders of our beloved Rose Tyler and Captain Jack Harkness have been dealt with in the appropriate threads.
I hate them lets just leave it at that.I prefer K9 over both of them.

Admittedly, there hasn't been a worse presidency in the history of the universe, but just remember: the novels and audios AREN'T CANON.
I don't know the Americans are pretty consistent in that regard. And given Moffat's 8th Doctor short canonised the 8DA's and Big Finish has stuffed his audios with references. Part of the reason I watch Who is to get away from canon concerns/arguements for a while.

I was talking about the destruction of all those precious, irreplaceable, only-for-this-have-the-generations-of-our-fathers-lived Hartnell and Troughton episodes the BBC DESTROYED.
I forgot about that. I just treat the recionstructions and novelisations as episodes. SFDebris has done a great documentary/recap of the lost episodes which is worth a watch.

Though there are some we wish WOULD have been lost.
True though some have helped develop the Temporal Cold War in the recommended .D.T.I. novels.

What's Dalek Second Empire?
Google it, read, and enjoy. Good Dalek story, while you might not get some of the references you don't need to know them to enjoy it. Avoid the fan video adaption it ruins it.
Honestly how do you not know about it?

Red is camp.
No it isn't, of the two mauve is the campest. Thats the intended, "joke".

If the Doctor says red is camp, red is camp!

(Yes, I know Moffat has considerately explained that 'The Doctor lies' to us about fifty million times, but this is simply not enough to overcome the fact that the Ninth Doctor says red is camp.)

Because one of them is SO CLEARLY the BEST DOCTOR EVER and the other one is, equally obviously, the worst.
In your opinion not mine.

Absolutely, but it so happens that my opinion is the correct one.

I didn't WANT to betray Tom Baker, you know. But it remains an irrefutable fact that Christopher Eccleston is the best Doctor.

(However, if you want to include the Unbounds I can certainly agree that Arabella Weir makes a MUCH worse Doctor than Colin Baker.)

I prefer K9 over both of them.

Well, who DOESN'T love the little tin dog?

Admittedly, there hasn't been a worse presidency in the history of the universe
I don't know the Americans are pretty consistent in that regard.

Say what you like about American Presidents, none of 'em have actually managed to destroy their own homeworld on several occasions.

And given Moffat's 8th Doctor short canonised the 8DA's and Big Finish has stuffed his audios with references.

Yeah, that whole 'Charley, C'rizz, Lucie, Tamsin, Molly, friends, Companions, I salute you' thing was MASSIVELY misfortunate for a number of reasons and it's REALLY HARD to get round it. (Unless you're Tim, in which case you just shrug it off as coincidence.)

But I console myself with the fact it's SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE for McGann to have spent six hundred years with the jellyfish people on Orbis.

Part of the reason I watch Who is to get away from canon concerns/arguements for a while.

Hmm. You have possibly chosen the wrong programme...

I just treat the recionstructions and novelisations as episodes. SFDebris has done a great documentary/recap of the lost episodes which is worth a watch.

Not good enough.

Need proper episodes.

Need proper episodes NOW.

Though there are some we wish WOULD have been lost.

Yeah, that's the real icing on the cake of the black-and-white massacre: I have never seen Power of the Daleks, BUT I HAVE SEEN THE DOMINATORS.

Honestly how do you not know about it?

Ugg! It's a COMIC!

So, Daleks can't see camp...?

This would explain a lot.

"I didn't WANT to betray Tom Baker, you know. But it remains an irrefutable fact that Christopher Eccleston is the best Doctor."

I know this discussion/argument has raged for years, but really, Emily, we might have to put you in a corner for a time-out!
Tom's Doctor accomplished sooooo much more, and was so much more successful in fighting the fight.
Eccleston's needed Rosemuch, that SHE was the one that saved the day far more often than he ever did, so I can't see how you think 9 was better than 4.

So, Daleks can't see camp...?

You don't want to believe everything Terry Nation says off-screen.

Or on it, come to think of it.

Eccleston's needed Rosemuch, that SHE was the one that saved the day far more often than he ever did, so I can't see how you think 9 was better than 4.

Look at it this way: Eccy is SUCH a marvellous Doctor he doesn't even need to lift a finger to defeat the bad guys, he just TOTALLY INSPIRES EVERYONE HE MEETS to do it for him.

If the Doctor says red is camp, red is camp!

The Doctor didn't go to Catholic school, trust me I know camp when I see it. Besides he means camp by cultural standards.


Absolutely, but it so happens that my opinion is the correct one.

*Looks across the room at the rainbow umbrella and wonders if the Bulgarians have any spare umbrella tips*


Say what you like about American Presidents, none of 'em have actually managed to destroy their own homeworld on several occasions.
Having listened to the, "Gallifrey" series so far I'm going to have to relisten to, "Gallifrey" to try and understand what happened. Part of, "The Big Finish drinking game" take a shot when Gallifrey is destroyed or changed forever.


Yeah, that whole 'Charley, C'rizz, Lucie, Tamsin, Molly, friends, Companions, I salute you' thing was MASSIVELY misfortunate for a number of reasons and it's REALLY HARD to get round it.

Agreed.


Not good enough.

Surely your experience and knowledge of Who would make imagining the episode easy for you. Besides given the relatively bad production values. Incidently I recommend you watch SFDebris's reviews before Blip goes down: http://sfdebris.com/videos/doctorwho.php


Ugg! It's a COMIC!

I don't like comics either but there are always the odd exception. Give it a chance, (after all I gave you one).

Couldn't resist:

Look at it this way: Eccy is SUCH a marvellous Doctor he doesn't even need to lift a finger to defeat the bad guys, he just TOTALLY INSPIRES EVERYONE HE MEETS to do it for him.

10, "I got clever manipulated others into sacrificing themselves".

Davros, "Just think, how many have died in your name".

so I can't see how you think 9 was better than 4.

Hey, the man was FANTASTIC! What more needs to be said?

Welllll.....
.....this is me backing out slowly out of The Crazy Room, and letting all of you thinking your own happy thoughts.

I'll just leave you with this challenge.
Give me a better line from Eccleston compared to,
(paraphrasing here)
"So back off, gentlemen, or I'll kill your friend with this deadly jelly baby!"

Having listened to the, "Gallifrey" series so far I'm going to have to relisten to, "Gallifrey" to try and understand what happened. Part of, "The Big Finish drinking game" take a shot when Gallifrey is destroyed or changed forever.

Excellent idea. If the series ever actually ends (I see there's a Season Eight: Enemy Lines thing coming up, oh gods, how much more can they do to one poor planet) I too will relisten from scratch with a bottle of vodka in hand.

Surely your experience and knowledge of Who would make imagining the episode easy for you.

Trouble is, I have very little visual sense. So NO, basically.

Incidently I recommend you watch SFDebris's reviews before Blip goes down: http://sfdebris.com/videos/doctorwho.php

Hmm. Those synopsis were good fun but when I tried one (The Smugglers) the actual review was a bit condescending, a bit explaining-what-happened rather than REVIEWING it, a bit referring-to-the-Doctor-as-the-Duktor, not to mention a bit inaccurate ('a pirate named Cherub tries questioning Longfoot, and eventually kills him' - There was nothing eventual about it, he was the 'kill first, interrogate afterwards - oops' type. And BEN gets full credit for Polly's 'witch' plan?).

I don't like comics either but there are always the odd exception. Give it a chance, (after all I gave you one).

Well, since you put it like THAT...

10, "I got clever manipulated others into sacrificing themselves".

Can't remember WHEN Ten said that - isn't he probably referring to HIMSELF rather than Eccy? This is the guy who manipulated a TEENAGER into topping himself, after all. (At least, he'd bloody well BETTER have been trying to manipulate Rattigan when he did that insane 'Just gonna die popping back to give the Sontarans a second chance' thing.)

Davros, "Just think, how many have died in your name".

I don't take morality lessons from the guy who's trying to wipe out every universe ever for NO READILY APPARENT REASON. (Now if he'd had a REASON that would be DIFFERENT.)

Hey, the man was FANTASTIC! What more needs to be said?

Yes. This.

Welllll.....
.....this is me backing out slowly out of The Crazy Room, and letting all of you thinking your own happy thoughts.

Trust me, they're not happy thoughts.

The sonuvadalek BETRAYED AND ABANDONED me.

Give me a better line from Eccleston compared to, (paraphrasing here)
"So back off, gentlemen, or I'll kill your friend with this deadly jelly baby!"

Lots of planets have a North.

Eh. Funny, but it's more Brit-centric, so it's kinda lost on anyone else.
Close, but not quite as good (in my opinion).

'By the way...did I mention? It also travels in time.'

'Excuse me, would you mind not farting while I'm saving the world?'

Eh. Funny, but it's more Brit-centric, so it's kinda lost on anyone else.

Lots of other countries have a North.

But if the American Civil War had gone the other way the US wouldn't have a South.

I think we all do to a certain extent....

Excellent idea. If the series ever actually ends (I see there's a Season Eight: Enemy Lines thing coming up, oh gods, how much more can they do to one poor planet) I too will relisten from scratch with a bottle of vodka in hand.

Now they have the rights to the new series it might continue from when they are, (Pre .L.G.T.W./.L.G.W.I.H.) right up to just before 12 restores Gallifrey meaning it would cover alot and thus more importantly you'd need alot of Vodka, (personally I'd try and put it on expenses).

Hmm. Those synopsis were good fun but when I tried one (The Smugglers) the actual review was a bit condescending, a bit explaining-what-happened rather than REVIEWING it, a bit referring-to-the-Doctor-as-the-Duktor, not to mention a bit inaccurate ('a pirate named Cherub tries questioning Longfoot, and eventually kills him' - There was nothing eventual about it, he was the 'kill first, interrogate afterwards - oops' type. And BEN gets full credit for Polly's 'witch' plan?).

Most internet reviews are just rifftrax style recaps, (no one knows why they are called reviews) and he is one of the better ones. "Sins/Everything Wrong", With is essentially the spirit of this site in video form but no Doctor Who versions exist yet. As for the innaccuracies no-ones perfect, (no not even .R.T.D.) and for a relatively recent adoptee of the franchise he seems to care to a decent extent.

Well, since you put it like THAT...
Just read it all the way through and tell us your thoughts.

Can't remember WHEN Ten said that - isn't he probably referring to HIMSELF rather than Eccy?

No he's reffering to himself as the Doctor 2-10, (I don't think 1 manipulated anyone to die for him).

I don't take morality lessons from the guy who's trying to wipe out every universe ever for NO READILY APPARENT REASON. (Now if he'd had a REASON that would be DIFFERENT.)

Just because the person saying it is insane doesn't mean it's wrong, (Note: I've used that arguement many times defending our shared viewpoints against Big Finish fanboys).

Welllll.....this is me backing out slowly out of The Crazy Room, and letting all of you thinking your own happy thoughts.
Happy? [Colin Baker raised voice] HAPPY?![/Colin Baker raised voice] It's been a while since I felt that.

I think we all do to a certain extent....
True though as with all social groups some are more interesting then others.

V117 - Most internet reviews are just rifftrax style recaps

You might have to explain what Rifftrax is to Emily.

She might remember following a link to the Rifftrax preview of Dr. Who and the Daleks, but she might have just pushed the memory out of her head, as well.

As for the innaccuracies no-ones perfect, (no not even .R.T.D.) and for a relatively recent adoptee of the franchise he seems to care to a decent extent.

Blimey, I CERTAINLY didn't spot he was a newbie. Impressive.

No he's reffering to himself as the Doctor 2-10, (I don't think 1 manipulated anyone to die for him).

One certainly got a few Thals to die in the Glorious Cause of getting his fluid link back...

Just because the person saying it is insane doesn't mean it's wrong, (Note: I've used that arguement many times defending our shared viewpoints against Big Finish fanboys).

There are BIG FINISH FANBOYS?

What, who actually LIKE Big Finish?

I want to be on whatever they're on.

Happy? [Colin Baker raised voice] HAPPY?![/Colin Baker raised voice] It's been a while since I felt that.

September 19th isn't TOO far away...

You WILL give Season 9/35 a chance, right?

You might have to explain what Rifftrax is to Emily.

She might remember following a link to the Rifftrax preview of Dr. Who and the Daleks, but she might have just pushed the memory out of her head, as well.

Spot on. I have absolutely no idea what anyone's talking about.

One certainly got a few Thals to die in the Glorious Cause of getting his fluid link back...

Sorry it's been a while since I've watched or read any Hartnell stories.

I want to be on whatever they're on.

I assume your joking.

You WILL give Season 9/35 a chance, right?

No. I'll watch the Dalek episode out of curiosity and the stay current on them but thats it. I've not watched Who regularly since VotD only single episodes that interest me, (hardly any).

I'll watch the Dalek episode out of curiosity and the stay current on them but thats it.

Geez, if you did that LAST year no wonder you're off current Who. Into the Dalek was, with Time Heist, the DULL bit of Season 8/34. There's a LOT better out there IF ONLY you'd give it a chance...

This is more of a personal announcement than anything else, but from next week, I'm leaving Korea, temporarily but long-term, to take my sabbatical in New Zealand.

I'm not sure what this means Who-wise. I won't have any of my DVDs/BRs. I have never used a streaming service if those things are what I'd need. (This Netflix thing only just recently became available here and I have no interest in paying money to watch a bunch of Hollywood ••••.) For the Christmas special, will I actually be able to just...turn on the tv and watch it? That has never been an option since Who came back.

Yes you will. It airs in NZ pretty much as soon as it comes it comes out (within 24 hours at least).

Rodney is right. ABC-TV airs it on Boxing Day night.

Yup, excellent news on the sabbatical, you get to watch Who AND, as an added bonus, not get fried in the forthcoming Korean nuclear war.

Too bad the Doctor can't take care of Kim Jong Tubbo...

We should just be grateful s/he isn't cosying up to the genocidal maniac, a la Mao.

I wonder what he thinks of Putin? Or Trump, for that matter.

Yeah, the Doctor really needs to find a new favourite race.

We know what he thinks of the rapey can of Fanta - 'Like sewage and smartphones and Donald Trump, some things are just inevitable' - but he's been remarkably silent on the subject of Vlad the Polonium-Killer.

The Doctor needs to take care of The Donald and The Vlad like he took care of the Family Of Blood.

At least PertweeDoc wasn't friends with Idi Amin.

The Doctor needs to take care of The Donald and The Vlad like he took care of the Family Of Blood.

Though, honestly, I'd be fine with it if the Doc just tortured 'em to death, I don't NEED them to live forever...(especially as The Donald might actually ENJOY lurking around in everyone's mirrors...)

At least PertweeDoc wasn't friends with Idi Amin.

Don't speak too soon, maybe he just never found the person who he thought would be impressed by him name-dropping Amin...and after all, we've got new Third Doctor audios coming up, and the novels might actually get their act together one of these days to give us more Past Doctor Adventures, so we can NEVER be 100% sure that we won't get a nasty surprise...(One of the short stories actually had Seven appear at Stalin's deathbed to tell him what a wonderful, saving-the-world-from-Nazis kinda guy he was and one day the mean world would realise it and NO he wasn't being sarcastic and NO it wasn't part of some cunning masterplan...)

Now hat the new season is almost here, I can see a certain Moderator watching and re-watching the first episode, and it got me thinking.
What episodes, for the entirety of the 36 seasons has everyone here watched the most times? Not what you think are the best, but what have you seen so many times you'll need both hands and feet to count the number of viewings?
Me, personally, I'd say that I've seen
'An Unearthly Child',
'The Three Doctors',
'The Brain Of Morbius',
'The Five Doctors',
'Doctor Who - The Movie',
and 'Rose' the most.
How about you guys?

I have not watched an episode so many times that I would need more than one hand to count them. My most watched episodes would be The Daleks, Pyramids of Mars, The Deadly Assassin, The Five Doctors, Blink, Flatline and The Husbands of River Song.

Rose. Eleven times.

When i was a kid, my brother had a deaf friend. About this time Fawlty Towers was repeated on TV... including the episode where Basil mocks the deaf woman by miming his words. Being an idiot, i imitated Basil by miming to my brother's deaf friend. Oh, dear...

Horror Of Fang Rock. Can't count the times I've watched it.

And the Nyssa episodes, of course.

Robot and Blink.

I'm guessing Two/Three/Five Docs and Day of the Doctor. You can see the pattern.

Also Logopolis, Unearthly Child (episode 1 only, and that's cheating because there are two versions of it), Earthshock and Talons maybe.

It's been a year and a half, so I'm guessing that our illustrious Moderator has seen 'Rose' about eleventeen times by now!

So let's go in the opposite direction this time.
What episodes have you seen once and never want to see again or just don't plan on revisiting them again because they were so 'meh'?
My list;
The Dominators
The Horns of Nimon
Snakedance
Frontios
Timelash
The Happiness Patrol

I'll avoid present-day Who just to avoid the same old arguments, already posted elsewhere.

My picks...


The Ambassadors Of Death
The Invasion of Time
Dude, Where's My Nyssa?
Trial Of A Time Lord (all of it)
The Curse Of Fenric

One from each Doctor (except Eight n'Nine for the obvious reasons):

The Web Planet
The Dominators
Death to the Daleks
Sontaran Experiment
The Awakening
Entire Colin Baker Era (OK, I lied about the whole 'one from each Doctor' thing)
Time and the Rani
Daleks in Manhattan
Curse of the Black Spot
That Abomination With the Trees
Orphan 55

Snakedance and Curse of Fenric are ALL-TIME CLASSICS!! you philistines!

I think Emily's list is exactly what I would pick, except for the Tom Baker choice. That one would be either Nimon, Fang Rock or Underworld. Sontaran Experiment is brief and innocuous.

Or Revenge of the Cybermen.

To avoid the lie: Timelash for Colin Baker.

In fact I started nitpicking it over a year ago and couldn't bother finishing it.

Gunfighters
Underwater Menace
The Mutants
Horns of Nimon
The Awakening
Timelash
Delta and the Bannermen
Boom Town
End of Time
Rings of Akhaten
Into The Dalek
Orphan 55

I think Emily's list is exactly what I would pick, except for the Tom Baker choice. That one would be either Nimon, Fang Rock or Underworld.

I've never got the Fang Rock love/obsession but it's a solidly enjoyable average story. Nimon is mildly enjoyable in a Christmas-panto kinda way (admittedly I hate pantos). Underworld's first episode always comes as a pleasant surprise, which is more than you can say for Sontaran Experiment.

Sontaran Experiment is brief and innocuous.

Sontaran Experiment is certainly BRIEF but it's also excruciatingly boring, full of sadistic pointless torture, makes sod-all sense AND tried to sabotage Tom being the Doctor by breaking his collarbone...and then there's the even-worse novelisation that doesn't even have the decency to be brief...

Or Revenge of the Cybermen.

Has some WONDERFUL Tom moments. And the novelisation is good, albeit grossly sexist and still not explaining what the •••• Kellman thought he was doing.

Timelash for Colin Baker.

*Nods sympathetically* It's the worst - joint with Twin Dilemma - but Trial drags its almost-as-godawful-ness over fourteen episodes, FOURTEEN ••••••• EPISODES PEOPLE!!!

Rodney, knock Boom Town off your list - it's easy, just keep on watching it until your initial disappointment turns to pure and perfect love.

The comedy of Tom Baker makes you want to keep living. Boom Town makes you long for the sweet release death would bring.

Boom Town makes you long for the sweet release death would bring.

Only because you're* so jealous about what JOYOUS FUN the TARDIS team are having together...

*And by 'you're' I obviously mean 'I'm'