The Ood are monsters, right? I mean, they've got faces COVERED in tentacles! I realise that technically speaking they're the good guys, but let's just have a look at their record:

1) Impossible Planet/Satan Pit: Satan-worshipping monsters who try to murder my Doctor. AND Rose.
2) Planet of the Ood: Rabid monsters who try to murder my Doctor. AND Donna. AND who probably bring down Earth's intergalactic empire, not that I'm overly concerned about THAT.
3) Waters of Mars: Doom-laden monster who scares the **** out of my Doctor.
4) End of Time Parts I and II: Dangerously, unnaturally-evolved monsters who send - and then sing - my Doctor to his death. (Couldn't they have just LEFT HIM ALONE?? I'm sure Doctor 13 or 19 or whatever would eventually have noticed what the Master and Time Lords were up to and nipped back to sort 'em out.)
5) The Eleventh Hour: Earth-invading monsters (apparently).

So honestly, they needn't think they can butter ME up the way they did the Doctor, saying their grandkids'd be singing songs about him (for what? FOR WHAT??? What about the poor bloke who actually gave ten years of his life...and then his death...to free the wretched creatures?).

Plus they seem to be setting themselves up as the universe's new Time Lord-replacements, and that can't possibly be good news...(OK, at least they don't pop out of thin air wearing hats with floppy ears, I'll give 'em THAT much.)

Still, roll on Season 6/32! Green eyes, eh?

They seem to be setting the Ood up as some sort of sages of the universe. Not bad for a plot device, and the elder Ood with Brian Cox's voice was pretty cool.

I love way you start a new thread just to get the monster discussions into quadruple figures... Why don't you start a DOminators or Quarks board? Maybe one for the Absorbaloff while you're at it?

The Ood are a significant race in New Who. Where else would they go?

Why don't you start a DOminators or Quarks board? Maybe one for the Absorbaloff while you're at it?

Cos they've only appeared on TV once. I'm being VERY RESTRAINED. Someone/race has to appear a minimum of three times (Torchwood and SJA count; novels and audios don't) before they're honoured with their own section. The rules have, in fact, got stricter since the days the Rani and the Meddling Monk sneaked onto this board...(Mind you, if you lot don't GET TALKING TILL WE'RE IN QUADRUPLE FIGURES the rules might just get relaxed again. I keep thinking about Weeping Angels and Rassilon...)

The Ood are a significant race in New Who. Where else would they go?

Hear, hear. They've already been in SEVEN episodes, and are soon to reappear in an exciting new colour! OK, they're not exactly Dalek-iconic, but what New Who monster IS? Anyway, there are many exciting mysteries to be explored:

How the hell did they evolve so fast in a hundred years?

Why didn't billions of Ood emigrating to a frozen wasteland result in mass starvation?

Did their manumission cause the fall of the Second Great and Bountiful Human Empire?

How do they turn their translator globes into deadly weapons?

Why is Ood Sigma still in charge, given that he's lobotomised?

Why is Ood Sigma still wearing his slave uniform, after a century?

When and why did they invade Earth?

How did they evolve with their brains in their hands?

How did they know Donna was single?

Someone/race has to appear a minimum of three times

I'd have thought twice was enough. The Weeping Angels are another significant New Who race.

I'm not sure I'd call Rassilon a monster though. He was, after all, just saving his race, not an unthinkable thing to do. Why should he care about all us lesser nothings?

I keep thinking about Weeping Angels and Rassilon..
Weeping Angels I am sure will appear again, not to mention that they have had two popular outings in the new series.

Rassilon has appeared twice in the show (if Timothy Dalton is meant to be Rassilon) but that's a judgement call I guess....

I'd have thought twice was enough. The Weeping Angels are another significant New Who race.

Weeping Angels I am sure will appear again, not to mention that they have had two popular outings in the new series.

OK *rubs hands gleefully* you've twisted my arm...one Weeping Angels section coming up...just remember you are BOTH responsible for it and I expect you to think of thrilling new things to say about the Angels on a regular basis to keep the thread going (unlike Rodney's GROSS dereliction of duty on the Computer Games thread I set up JUST FOR HIM...).

I'm trying to finish the F.E.A.R. game I borrowed from my nephew over a year ago, then I'll give one of the Who games a try.

I have no idea what an F.E.A.R. game is, but I'm shocked - SHOCKED! - that you're giving it precedence over Who Itself...

Just a compulsion to finish what I start, which explains why I watched an entire movie last night about sheep farmers in Montana despite it being blindly awful.

They seem to be setting the Ood up as some sort of sages of the universe.

You know, it occurs to me that - give or take the tentacles - the Ood are actually more similar to the original Time Lords than the post-War-Games Time Lords are. They are old and wise and powerful and all-male. Their eyes glow when they're pissed off. They have the authority to summon the Doctor. Whereupon he runs screaming in the opposite direction - but they get him in the end anyway. And he dies as a result. Above all, they're mysterious.

Whereas the Time Lords in the colour era are a bunch of ignorant, helpless, murderous, treacherous cretins in big collars.

Time Lords could change their eye color? How could you tell in B&W?

And the Ood aren't really very powerful. They didn't have any authority to summon the Doctor, just the ability, and if he didn't come, then what? Haunt him?

Time Lords could change their eye color? How could you tell in B&W?

The eyes didn't change colour so much as GLOW. In a VERY threatening manner.

And the Ood aren't really very powerful. They didn't have any authority to summon the Doctor, just the ability, and if he didn't come, then what? Haunt him?

Theoretically that's the case, but every bloody time an Ood pops out of thin air, the Doctor - the TENTH Doctor, the Lonely God himself - falls to his knees, so I just have it in my head that they're really really powerful...

Plus after what happened last time - the Master got resurrected because of his delaying tactics - the Doctor will almost certainly come running WITHOUT despoiling any Virgin Queens next time he's summoned.

Though come to think of it...why wasn't it the Ood who warned Eleven about the TARDIS blowing up instead of Vincent/Bracewell/Churchill/Liz 10/River? Or about it blowing holes in the universe, instead of the Daleks/Cybermen/Sontarans/Autons etc etc?

The eyes didn't change colour so much as GLOW. In a VERY threatening manner.

Reallly? How cool. Guess they dropped attribute since it implies the Doctor could glow his eyes too, and that would be out of character.

why wasn't it the Ood who warned Eleven about the TARDIS blowing up

Maybe the crack swallowed them.

Guess they dropped attribute since it implies the Doctor could glow his eyes too, and that would be out of character.

Well, it was (I think) just the three Time Lords who were standing in judgement over the Doctor who had that particular trick, so the fact the Doctor had shown no such signs didn't really feel like a nit.

Maybe the crack swallowed them.

Well, if it DID it's spat 'em out again, all green and glowing...

'Oods are good, love an Ood' (The Doctor's Wife) - who does the Doctor think he is, shamelessly generalising about an entire species this way! Doesn't he REALISE they belong in the Monster section!

They have been more trouble than help.

Well, apart from that adorable one in Pond Life, obviously. The marriage just totally fell apart when it left...

So do the Ood have a future? RTG seemed as if He was setting 'em up to be the universe's new Lords of Time, but Moffat quietly dropped that, just using the odd Ood when he needed a cheap villain (and/or alien to sit on the Ponds' loo). And now the REAL Time Lords are (sort of) back...

NANJAO: The OOD translator device looks like one of those "Orange Julius" drink containers that they used to sell at malls here in America.

They looked like an orange and had a straw coming out.

And Orange Julius's logo featured (or used to) a devil.

About Time: The Ood are 'largely the Welsh series equivalent of the Ogrons' - yeah, the Ogrons are a brutal stupid mercenary race while the Ood are the universe's new Lords of Time, but apart from that I can TOTALLY see the resemblance.

'It's not only stupid but against the norms of a slaveholding society to not use technology for constant surveillance just to guard against the type of uprising that we actually see' - er...how many high-tech slave-holding societies has Tat ENCOUNTERED? And it's quite obvious that these people are convinced that the Ood NEED to serve - not least because it's TRUE. (Yeah, they should have asked WHY it's true, but then if THE DOCTOR didn't bother...)

'And yet, given that the base members have basic, standard precautions in case of an Ood uprising, and are aware of a pro-Ood sympathy lobby back home, they let these beings prepare and serve their food. Even apart from the risk of deliberate poisoning, the Ood drip slime from their snotty tentacles' - ah. Fair points.

'Making an alien race that looks so much like Dr Zoidberg from Futurama is idiotic' - maybe they expected Who Fans to remain faithful to the one-and-only programme worth watching?

Making an alien race that looks so much like Dr Zoidberg from Futurama is idiotic

They remind me more of Cthulhu.

'Making an alien race that looks so much like Dr Zoidberg from Futurama is idiotic' - maybe they expected Who Fans to remain faithful to the one-and-only programme worth watching?

Even Doctor Who must bow before the awesomeness of Dr Zoidberg.

Is Dr Zoidberg an Emperor of Draconia? Does Dr Zoidberg have the mental power of Sutekh the Destroyer or Borusa-with-Rassilon's-coronet? Nope? Then there won't be any BOWING going on, thank you very much.

Dr Zoidberg is an alien that is also a Jewish stereotype.

In which case he'd last five minutes, tops, in Who before being killed by a Yeti.

in Futurama, Earth keeps becoming "Vichy Earth" because it is a third rate power whose defence is led by a moron (Zapp Brannigan).

In Day of the Daleks, Earth is also "Vichy Earth" because it is a third rate power whose defence was led by a moron (Reginald Styles).

Reginald Styles is no moron!

Reginald Styles is a man of EXTRAORDINARY courage, intelligence and integrity.

Admittedly none of these fine qualities were on show in Day of the Daleks, but everyone's entitled to an off-day every now and then...

What the hell is an Ood doing, ministering to a CYBERMAN? I always SAID the tentacled freaks couldn't be trusted. It'll only try to convert the street, followed by ze vorld.

Still, good to see the costumes haven't fallen apart yet.

Reginald Styles wasn't leading the defence of Earth he was a brilliant negotiator who saved the world with his peace conference. It wasn't his fault those idiot future rebels kept making a mess of things.

Yes he was a bit rude to UNIT but they were going on about time travelling aliens.

Yes he was a bit rude to UNIT but they were going on about time travelling aliens.

And he'd SEEN said time-travelling aliens.

You'd think he'd've cut UNIT a BIT of slack and (I know, revolutionary idea for a diplomat) TOLD THEM THE TRUTH?

Planet of the Ood:

'The army always need more grunts' - And what do Ood in armies DO, exactly? If it's fire on the enemy human soldiers when ordered to...shouldn't humans be a bit worried? The Doctor said the Kaldor City civilisation would collapse if it became known a single robot could harm a human, surely the same would apply to Ood?

'We like to think of the Ood as our trusted friends' - you sell your friends for fifty credits?!

If giving magic-Ood-juice to a human can result in him vomiting himself up a hand-brain...why doesn't Ood Sigma drink the stuff himself? Then he wouldn't have to spend the next hundred years lobotomised.

End of Time:

'The Ood have gained this power to see through time, because time is bleeding' - I really don't see why Gallifrey popping in to say 'Hi' to Earth for ten minutes should have such a drastic effect on a few tentacled half-wits a galaxy or two away. Now if it had been the whole of universal history shifting thanks to Day of the Doctor...
 
Anyway, how far HAS Ood history been accelerated? They've built some pretty buildings on a cliff. They haven't worked out how to switch off the snow or anything.

they seem to be setting themselves up as the universe's new Time Lord-replacements, and that can't possibly be good news...

And as it turns out that the Sisterhood of Karn is still alive and kicking till the end of the universe (Hell Bent, Night of the Doctor, etc) why aren't THEY the new Time Lords (Ladies. Whatever.) instead of a bunch of easily-hypnotised tentacled ex-slaves getting the gig?

'The Ood are my favourite because they remind me of my cat' - Catherine Tate. What the actual ••••?

The Ood are monsters, right?

Yup. Yet more evidence from Revolution where they're red-eyed nutters despite the total lack of any Satan in the vicinity.

So much for them being the new Time Lords. (Maybe they just turned down the position after they got sick of Gallifrey being destroyed/undestroyed/destroyed again all the bloody time?)

Impossible Planet/Satan Pit:

ROSE: I'm sorry, what was your name?
OOD: We have no titles. We are as one. - No, your name is Ood 1 Alpha 1. Or Ood 7 Gamma 10. Or something of the sort. (Look, I didn't say they were GOOD names. But they're names.)

'Everyone's got one' - yeah, still not getting why 'everyone' doesn't get get a considerably-less-creepy robot hoover or something.

'Sir, we have contamination in the livestock' - should you be calling 'em livestock? They're walking talking slaves you're not breeding to EAT or anything.

(Um...I ASSUME you're not, anyway...)

Following on from Brian the Ood Assassin in the Time Lord Victorious books n'audios...is that an Ood CARRYING A GUN in the...um, immersive experience thingy?

Who really is quite RACIST in that it just can't help making Oods the baddies cos, hey, tentacles, even when it's TRYING to make 'em all pacifists...

SPOILERS FOR FLUX:

The Ood are monsters, right? I mean, they've got faces COVERED in tentacles! I realise that technically speaking they're the good guys, but let's just have a look at their record

To which we can now add DESTROYING THE UNIVERSE:

'I know what that Ood is doing. You're generating the final waves of the Flux from here, forcing spatial compression on that universe.'

••••••• Ood.

And it wasn't even red-eyed!

The Doctor calling the Ood 'Ood' didn't feel right to me.

The tentacled git WAS destroying the universe at the time so if that's racism I'm prepared to give her a pass on it...

I caught part of an Mystery Science Theatre 3000 episode and as I'm looking at the Observer standing there holding his brain (as his race tends to do) I wondered if RTD was an MST3K fan?

I mean the Observers carry their brains around, and the Ood carry their brains in one hand. Be an interesting coincidence if the Ood's brain carrying trait wasn't inspired by the earlier show.

For what it's worth (very little) there's a female Ood doctor in The American Adventures. In case anyone was wondering if they came in two genders.

How do they turn their translator globes into deadly weapons?

Voila! The Planet of the Ood novelisation:

'He closed his eyes. Felt with his mind for the tiny insulated energy pack, implanted within him, which powered the translator ball. Instead of having power over him, soon he would have power over it' 'Using his re-discovered psychic powers, [Delta Fifty] summoned an electrical charge from the implanted battery pack within him. It shot through the tube, increasing in power and energy and exploded into the translator ball...'

I trust that explains EVERYTHING.

'Everyone's got one' - yeah, still not getting why 'everyone' doesn't get get a considerably-less-creepy robot hoover or something.

'Ood Operations only became a force to reckon with two hundred years ago when the all-powerful, market-leading Voc-Bot Corporation went bust after some of their robots turned psycho and started killing people.'

An obvious explanation, but appreciated nonetheless.

'A species born to serve could never evolve in the first place' - and this didn't occur to the Doctor SOONER? Why didn't he investigate straight after Impossible Planet/Satan Pit?