Lets have at it, NC'ers: What spin-off of Classic or New Who do you *not* want to see?
K9 Adventures.
As an IDEA, K9 Adventures is great.
It's just in practice both series (well, one series and one pilot) were exceedingly ghastly.
My worst possible series would be Young Hartnell At The Time Lord Academy.
And yes, the BBC actually suggested it to RTG.
John Benton: Used Car Salesman
Sisterhood: Life on Karn
Runcible the Fatuous
Shobogan Shenanigans
Could actually be good:
Morbius prequel
Captain Jack and some Welsh people protect the Earth from alien invaders!
John Benton: Used Car Salesman
Sisterhood: Life on Karn
Karn was VERY exciting when we saw it in Night of the Doctor, Brain of Morbius, and of course in Warmonger. And of course there are those constant crashed spaceships! Some of them with still-surviving occupants who could be Sacred Flamed in the climax of each episode! And then there's the relationships between a bunch of homicidal females who are stuck together for a very long time...the possibilities are endless...look at how many books Enid Blyton managed to write about girls' boarding schools...
Runcible the Fatuous
I ADORED the scenes with Runcible the Fatuous!
Admittedly the joke might run a bit thin after a few series.
Shobogan Shenanigans
Watching Castellan Spandrel chase blanket-clad vandals round the Capitol after they shoot at the light fittings? What's not to love?
Could actually be good:
Morbius prequel
No doubt it COULD, but once you've read Warmonger...
Captain Jack and some Welsh people protect the Earth from alien invaders!
*Sigh* Even if you're such a philistine as to NOT want to see MORE CAPTAIN JACK!! you've gotta admit, watching him and some Welsh people protect the Earth is a LOT more fun than watching him and some AMERICAN people do so.
Wasn't Young Hartnell pitched because they couldn't get the rights to remake Harry Potter for the small screen?
Survivor: Mondas
Survivor: Metebelis III
The Big Benton Theory
The Ood Couple
CSI: Gallifrey
Marvel's Agents Of UNIT
So You Think You Can Exterminate
Hawaii Five-Ood
CSI: Gallifrey
Oh, I'd love to see that one!
Sadly most of the Whovian Observer's archives are no longer online or I'd have linked to the cartoon he did of CSI: Gallifrey.
IIRC the punchline was, "Silly costumes, serious crime".
Although, rereading what was still up I realized that George the midget Sontaran was probably where Moffett got the idea for Strax. ;-)
Keeping Up With The Kaldorians.
CSI: Gallifrey
Oh, I'd love to see that one!
Yeah, I'm assuming it's a crime programme (there was a comment to that effect in Torchwood: Everything Changes) and we NEED to see more of those chalk outlines from Deadly Assassin! NOTHING is as hilarious as the chalk outline of a Time Lord.
Keeping Up With The Kaldorians.
To be fair, the Kaldor City audios weren't THAT bad.
Well, until everyone got eaten by the Fendahl or something.
Gallifrey Idol
Dancing With The Sontarans
K9 gets an upgrade in The K10 Adventures
The adventures of a single Tyrannosaur, and dino friends, in modern day London - Rex In The City
The Doctor becomes grammatically correct in Doctor Whom
Sarah Jane has vanished and an accident-prone woman tries to take her place on Bannerman Road in The Sorry Jane Adventures
The Doctor is cloned in Doctors Who, What, Why, Where and When
Andrew Lloyd Webber writes a musical based on Talons of Weng-Chian and calls it Rats
To be fair, the Kaldor City audios weren't THAT bad.
Well, until everyone got eaten by the Fendahl or something.
It was all downhill after that.
Think there's anything here Big Finish hasn't at least considered?
Alpha Centuri dancing with a Vervoid?
Actually, I'm surprised Alpha Centauri or a member of the same race didn't pop up in the RTD era. It's one alien that is conceptually New Who but in serious need of a physical updating. Just not those Sontaran torsos.
Nitcentral the TV series. With Geoffrey Palmer as Tim McCree and Judi Dench as Kate Halprin.
Buh!?
Something tells me that Emily might want to be played by Jemma Redgrave.
Or would that be Ingrid Oliver?
Emily would be Amanda Plummer, obviously.
I say we stick with Palmer and Dench. At least I know who they are.
And Palmer at least is a frequent guest star in Who.
For the uninitiated, here is Amanda Plummer in her most famous and very not safe for work role:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jomr9SAjcyw
She's also Captain Von Trapp's daughter.
'Frequent guest star'? Imdb.com shows Palmer only as Captain Hardaker in 'Voyage of the Damned'.
and Masters in the Silurians and some bloke in the (Pertwee) Mutants
Right. Three different, sizeable roles across old and new Who. Not sure that's actually a record or not, but there can't be too many people who can make that claim (not counting stunt doubles, brief cameos, etc.)
Aha! You're both correct. I didn't realize that imdb was considering original Who and new Who as two separate shows.
I also thought he was very good in 'Fawlty Towers' as Doctor Price. (I want my sausages! Get rid of that dead body!)
I didn't realize that imdb was considering original Who and new Who as two separate shows.
It - was - WHAT!
I didn't realize that imdb was considering original Who and new Who as two separate shows.
Not unusual. They consider all five Star Trek shows separate series, even though they're part of one big saga.
But they ARE five separate series. (Aren't they?) Just set in the same universe. (One assumes.) Whereas Who is the story of JUST ONE MAN. (Or, possibly, just one blue box.) With a somewhat misfortunate gap in the middle of it.
Some people are under the misconception that New Who is a reboot of the series, instead of what it is, a direct continuation of the original series after a prolonged hiatus.
It's not anything to do with narrative continuity, it's that the new series is clearly a separate production from the one that ran 1963-1989.
Separate production? Bah humbug. Utopia was directed by Graeme Harper just like Caves of Androzani was. Whereas a Hartnell-starring black-and-white 405-line system produced by Verity Lambert in Lime Grove Studio D was a PRETTY SEPARATE PRODUCTION from the glorious colour 625-line video tape starring Sylvester McCoy inflicted on us by the guy in the Hawaiian shirt quarter of a century later.
(Oh, and in case anyone is gaping at my hitherto-unsuspected levels of videotape technical knowledge, Space Helmet for a Cow has just been explaining it to me, along with the line 'So what?, you might ask, but this sort of stuff's like hardcore porn to Doctor Who fans.')
Utopia was directed by Graeme Harper just like Caves of Androzani was.
Harper also directed for 'Heartbeat' but I'm fairly sure that's a separate production too.
Whereas a Hartnell-starring black-and-white 405-line system produced by Verity Lambert in Lime Grove Studio D was a PRETTY SEPARATE PRODUCTION from the glorious colour 625-line video tape starring Sylvester McCoy inflicted on us by the guy in the Hawaiian shirt quarter of a century later.
If there was a 20 year gap between the two then they would indeed be separate series but the series was in continual production in that period and you can see how the one evolves into the other over time.
(Oh, and in case anyone is gaping at my hitherto-unsuspected levels of videotape technical knowledge, Space Helmet for a Cow has just been explaining it to me, along with the line 'So what?, you might ask, but this sort of stuff's like hardcore porn to Doctor Who fans.')
I like to think that 15 years of beating my head against the brick wall of your "film? video? pah!" wilful ignorance might have weakened it a little in advance of this killer blow.
What is this Mad Cow Disease thing you've been yammering about, Emily?
I'm guessing it's a book about Doctor Who...
or Emily has finally snapped and is now listening to the rantings a horned Viking helmet. ;-)
Harper also directed for 'Heartbeat' but I'm fairly sure that's a separate production too.
He PROSTITUTED himself out to lesser programmes?!
(Now if it had been called Heartsbeat this might have been OK...(TALKING of silly spin-off ideas...))
If there was a 20 year gap between the two then they would indeed be separate series but the series was in continual production in that period and you can see how the one evolves into the other over time.
True, but I can see how Old Who evolves into New Who over time. Admittedly far too MUCH time.
I like to think that 15 years of beating my head against the brick wall of your "film? video? pah!" wilful ignorance might have weakened it a little in advance of this killer blow.
I'd love to deny it, but it's a tragic possibility, given that fifteen years of less/fewer distinctions have DEFINITELY had an eroding effect on my total-lack-of-giving-a-.
What is this Mad Cow Disease thing you've been yammering about, Emily?
I'm guessing it's a book about Doctor Who...
Full marks to Keith.
Obviously I'll be posting a review in the Reference Books section sooner or later.
Old Who are New Who are the same. RTD said it was "continuing on, not starting again."
That's an argument about narrative, not production.
They both began with season/series ones, so no matter what happens intertextually, they're going to be separate productions, along with that TV movie.
You could also argue that the new series is nothing but an expensive fanfic that the BBC decided to air. ;-)
*KAM is suddenly attacked by a crack commando squad of ninja kitties*
GO KITTIES!
(daleks)DO NOT FEED THE FLUFFY PESTS!(daleks)
Even DALEKS - ultimate evil though they obviously are - wouldn't DREAM of saying such a thing.
FLYING pests, yes.
But oochie-coochie fluffy KITTENS...never!
In fact, all the metal meanies really needed to stop 'em doing anything as spectacularly pointless and unpleasant as attempting to conquer the universe was a furry purry darling to love.
Tragically, Skarosian evolution gave them the Slyther instead.
Ah! THAT'S the terrifying-glittery-eyes effect they attempted - and so spectacularly failed at - in Planet of the Daleks!
Give me a dog, any day.
Boiled or fried?
Oh, oh! Hotdog!
How about an 1980s throw back, but instead of Muppet Babies, the Beeb commissions Doctor Babies?
Goo, Goo, Gaah, Gaah, TARDIS!
Yes, a mad scientist has genetic samples of all the known Doctors and he clones them. While still Time Tots they use their collective intelligence to cobble together a time crib and all of space & time become their playground.
;-)
*Imagines Emily screaming in horror at this idea*
How about Doctor Who Adventures, a crossover between Disney cartoons and Loony Toons.
With Mickey Mouse as the Doctor, Pluto as K9 and Yosemite Sam as the Master.
I think Daffy would be a better Master.
Yosemite Sam is Warner Bros not Disney.
Peg Leg Pete is Mickey's traditional enemy in film so would therefore be the likeliest candidate for the Master.
Although the comic strip created villain the Phantom Blot could be good as well.
On the other hand what about different Disney characters as different incarnations. Mickey, Goofy & Donald could then team up for their own take on The Three Doctors. ;-)
On a side note, the European Disney comics have already done a Mickey as Captain Kirk story.
For a Warner Bros Doctor Who mashup...
Porky Pig as the second Doctor.
Tweety Bird as the third Doctor with Sylvester as The Master.
Bugs Bunny as the fourth Doctor with Yosemite Sam as the Master.
Road Runner as the fifth Doctor with Wile E. Coyote as the Master.
Daffy Duck as the sixth Doctor.
Brain as the seventh Doctor.
Elmer Fudd as the ninth Doctor.
Yacko Warner as the tenth Doctor.
Wacko Warner as the eleventh Doctor.
War Doctor and 12th Doctor?
Couldn't think of anybody for them, nor 1 & 8. For that matter some of the choices I did make are questionable.
And Mickey Mouse is a talking, clothes-wearing mouse that owns a pet dog that doesn't wear clothes or talk - and his best mate is Goofy, a dog who wears clothes and talks.
The Master as a Scooby Doo villain.
The Doctor: Now, let's see who Kalid really is. Removes the mask.
All: The Master!
The Doctor: Yes, he brought the Concords here so he could escape into the future, using the Xeraphine.
The Master: And I would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for that meddling Doctor and his Companions!
The Doctor with Rainbow Brite or Strawberry Shortcake as his companion?
The Doctor with My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic.
Oh, wait a minute...
The human race.
Oh dear gods the human race...
And the really scary thing--this has at least two more parts!!!
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
And it ties in with MLP:FIM's pilot episode. Yep, the Doctor & Derpy are having their adventure parallel to the Mane Six and knowing what happens there helps understand some of the things that happen in the Dr. Whooves story.
I'll have to agree with you on that one.
Even worse--part 2 is about the same length as part 1--and part 3 is almost as long as the other 2 put together.
Why anyone would do this is beyond me.
What the heck are we talking about here? Wasn't this like a girl's toy in the 70s or 80s or something?
It was. Then it was successfully relaunched in the early 2010's, but an unexpected twist happened. For some reason, a large number of adults became fans of the toy this time around. As a group, the men are called bronies and the women pegasisters, and they have taken the My Little Pony toys in directions never imagined by their creators like, for instance, these videos.
I still have a Strawberry Shortcake toy handbag
Man, I love being a DINK.
Oh great, now I need to explain.
In my last post I was agreeing with Emily--Keiths post came through while I was writing, and so I didn't see it.
Some days you just can't win.
Francois - For some reason, a large number of adults became fans of the toy this time around.
Really? I figured the unusual thing was how many male adults liked the cartoon because it was funny and had clever writing.
I mean you'd expect a certain boost in buying the toys from little girls who had never collected the toy before seeing a "half-hour toy commercial" and some lapsed fans (most likely the mothers of said girls), but I don't think many Bronies just started buying boxes of toys because they liked the cartoon.
Well, when I said the toy, I meant the whole My Little Pony universe of course, including toy collecting, cosplay, fan made literature and videos, etc,. There were even documentaries made about the phenomenon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronies:_The_Extremely_Unexpected_Adult_Fans_of_My_Little_Pony
CSI: Gallifrey Oh, I'd love to see that one!
Isn't that basically, "The Deadly Asassin"?
Whoniversity Challenge
Fictional Whoverse colleges version of the proper show, (including: Pyramid College Mars, Traken Central, Imperial College Necros, Renegade College Skaro, and Cyber College Telos).
Presenter= Bernice Summerfield after blowing up River Song ala, "Universe Challenge", (ie: the Red Dwarf special).
Just 50 Rels
Dalek version of Radio 4's, "Just a Minute".
Would a .L.G.T.W. version of .M.A.S.H. be too tasteless?
Would a .L.G.T.W. version of .M.A.S.H. be too tasteless?
It depends on what L.G.T.W. means.
Law and Order: Shadow Proclamation
Jeopardy with Alex Dalek
"YOU DID NOT ANSWER IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION! EX-TER-MIN-ATE!"
Family of Blood Feud
The Wheel in Space of Fortune
Whitaker and Grover in The Land Before Time? Yep! Yep! Yep!
I may have mentioned this before but a sitcom with Hindle, Harrison Chase and Professor Lasky sharing a flat could be a lot of fun.
How about Alpha Centuri, Erato and the Vervoids moving into a sleepy, conservative and uptight English village?
But wouldn't the Vervoids be trying to kill the human neighbors? I should think even liberal and open minded English neighbors might think that's just a tad unfriendly.
What about a Till Death Do Us Part/All In The Family type show with a Silurian in the Alf Garnett/Archie Bunker role?
How about a Doctor Who/Thick of It crossover?
Scene: Corridor in number 10
Clara: Is this number 10? Am I really in number 10??
Doctor: Yeah, they've redecorated since last time. But I'm sure [tapping timey-wimey device] the signal is coming from... [spies door]behind this door.. [opens door and enters]
Scene: Office of Malcolm Tucker
[Clara takes a double beat as she sees Malcolm Tucker sitting behind a desk. She looks back between Malcolm and the Doctor with a stunned look on her face]
Clara: Uuuuh...Doctor...
[The Doctor is oblivious to everyone in the room as he scans it, including Malcolm Tucker who looks up angrily]
Tucker: Who in f***s name are you two?
Doctor: [still not looking at Tucker] I'm the Doctor, this is Clara. Just umm.. [fishes in pocket and pulls out psychic paper] whatever this says...
Tucker: A f*****g UNIT inspection? You are not f*****g UNIT.
Doctor: [a little surprised] Really? It went with UNIT? Ok.
Clara: Doctor...would you mind looking at...er..[sees name plate on desk] Malcolm Tucker [realisation of who he is] Oh my God- you're Malcom Tucker! I know you! You work for the PM!
Tucker: Yeah bravo Miss Inspector f*****g Clouseau.
Doctor: [finally putting his device away and facing Tucker] Wow. What a little potty mouth you have. You kiss your mother with that mouth?
Tucker: No, I kiss YOUR f*****g mother with it. Then she gets to s**k on my massive c**k.
Clara: Doctor? Why does he look like you?
Doctor: He does? I don't think so.
Tucker: I think your friend here has been smoking too much weed.
Clara: Excuse me, I'm a teacher!
Tucker: Perfectly good reason to smoke weed then.
Clara: Well maybe if your government would...you know...fund our public schools better, I might not need to...not that I do....
Tucker: Sure you don't. Look, I have work to do so get the f**k out now or I'll bollocks the pair of you.
Doctor: You're quite the little grub aren't you? Must be hard to be in that head of yours. Ever try yoga or Enya music. Now that will calm your nerves.
Tucker: Enya? Her music sounds like it was s**t out the back end of a diseased horses a**e. NOW F****G GET OUT!!
Clara: Doctor, I think maybe we should exit.
Doctor: Yes, we'll leave mr small appendage here to his work.
Tucker: [infuriated] Small appendage?? I'll take my so-called small appendage- which, by the way- not so small...
Clara: eeewww
Tucker: AND JAM IT UP YOUR UNIT SIZED A**E!!
[enter another secretary. See the two men and has a minor heart attack]
Secretary: Mr. Tucker are you...Oh jesus christ!!
Tucker: What is it?
Secretary: Uuuh...I didn't even know you had a twin brother
Doctor: Seriously- why do you think we're identical. Look at his hair... not even close. His ears are shorter than mine...
Clara: They're not really...
Doctor: His nose is bigger
Tucker: F**k you jew boy...
Doctor: Charming... and of course, his language is extremely limited.
Tucker: It may be limited you big haired, elephant nose, monobrowed piece of a**e remnant, but it works.
Doctor: Sure it does. Come on Clara. We won't find anything here....
[leaves. Clara after a beat]
Clara:Uh...nice meeting you I think...
This just begs to be made.
How about Scarlioni hosting a call-in radio show in which he shouts "The human race! The tools of my salvation!" at random callers?
In fact, we ought to have a BUNCH of monsters hosting said show. Count Scarlioni, Professor Zaroff, Sutekh, Missy...between them they'd solve ALL our problems...
between them they'd solve ALL our problems...
in a 'cure a migraine by chopping off one's head' kind of way though.
Yeah, maybe we'd better have the Doctor on the show too. The Sixth Doctor, perhaps - he'd fit right in with that bunch of maniacs but he'd still hopefully be able to save a few lives.
When he wasn't telling callers to go jump in an acid bath, anyway.
How about Corporal Palmer Investigates?
"Sir, a body's been found on the moors!"
"Holy Moses!"
Big Finish spinoff ideas - Gareth Roberts says on Twitter that he owns the rights to Courtney (the kid who was in a few Capaldi episodes) and Rani's dad from SJA, and Joe Lidster added that he owns Clyde's mum.
Good grief. I'd've thought the Companions' PARENTS would be mentioned and copyrighted in some showrunnner's document.
Doctor: Seriously- why do you think we're identical. Look at his hair... not even close. His ears are shorter than mine...
Clara: They're not really...
Doctor: His nose is bigger
Tucker: F**k you jew boy...
Doctor: Charming... and of course, his language is extremely limited.
Tucker: It may be limited you big haired, elephant nose, monobrowed piece of a**e remnant, but it works.
Actually, MOFFAT says that if Twelve met Malcolm Tucker, 'They would find each other compellingly handsome.'
Survivor: Doctor Who
All the incarnations of the Doctor are placed on a remote island and have to form alliances against each other.
At the end of each show, a Doctor is voted off the island.
How about a sitcom with pre-crystal Tommy, Pigbin Josh and Condo?
Well, it would be better than SOME Who spin-offs I could mention...
After TTOTD, "Clothed Monsters, Nude Doctors"?
This was done in a famous Star Trek fanfiction, but how would say, Peter Capaldi do if he woke up as the Twelfth Doctor?
Expanding:
Do the actors gain any 'abilities' when they transform? Plus I presume that they do gain the necessary background knowledge. It would be awkward not recognising members of your family or close personal associates because their either been dropped from the film or look nothing like the actual character.
With regards to Peter Capaldi I did read that one reason he gave up the role was that he found it physically too demanding. So unless he gets time lord resources, such as the 2nd heart and the fact he's functionally immortal, that would be a problem. Not to mention if he actually found himself facing daleks, cybermen and the like can he rely on them being as stupid and accommodating as they generally are on TV? Similarly would he know how to use the sonic screwdriver or how to speak multiple languages and know history across a broad range of ages and multiple galaxies.
Those points would be ever more true for actors playing characters with superhero type powers. A superman who can't fly and can be killed by a bullet or a car crash say? Or even a martial artist who falls over his own feet when he tries to fight. [Reminded of a Rowan Atkinson advert for a chocolate bar if any of them have ever seen it. Checking: its an ad for Snickers].
Got some more:
The KarTRASHian Creatures Meet A Krynoid
The KarTRASHian Creatures Meet Kroll
Of course, they'd only be one episode of each, for obvious reasons.
The KarTRASHian Creatures Meet the Auton Trashbin. ;-)
A pair of friendly Daleks have adventures - The Paleks
Alien invasion are stopped by little old ladies armed with wool and needles - UKNIT
A boarding house ruled by Mondasians - The Cyber House Rules
Incredibly polite alien invaders - The Nice Warriors
If the Wackjobs In Fandom (That Weren't Ian Levine) Had Been Right...
Stories taken from some of the more inaccurate fan theories relating to Modern Who. Including Adam's transformation into Davros, the horrifying truth about Leadworth's duck pond, the domestic turmoil of Clara and Danny raising a baby girl, and at least one female character turning out to be Romana, the Rani, Susan or all three in every release and let's not forget the multiple surprise cameos by the Eighth Doctor as played by Liverpool's Own Paul McGann.
Not really a spin-off I *dont* want, but:
Space Teenagers: Fivey, Adric, Tegan, Nyssa, Turlough, Lon, Karuna, and Kamelion live in an apartment and have shenanigans between home, school, and the wackiest parties on every planet.
Somehow, I can't see Adric or Turlough being wild party goers. Even as teenagers.
ADRIC: I have a wild idea! Let's go steal some riverfruit. Who's with me?
TURLOUGH: Okay, let's take 'my' new car...
Tegan: Im going to climb the trees!
Nyssa: I’ve got the Source on our side!
Lon: This will be the best party in the galaxy!
Karuna: Lets all go!
Kamelion: I should turn into a fruit picking machine!
Fivey: what have I gotten myself into?
You know, looking back at my Doc 12/ Malcolm Tucker skit from 2015 above, I don't think it got anywhere near the love it deserved. And trust me, I am not one to toot my own horn when it comes to my writing...
How about other crossovers between the Doctors\Companions and the other properties they acted in?
How would they fare?
He's stalked the Doctors throughout their lives.
A name seldom spoken. A hint here, a whisper there.
A presence, lurking in the shadows of the Doctor's long history.
But now, the lurking is over. Today, he takes physical form, and the Doctor finally comes face-to-face with their greatest threat yet.
Pig Finish presents: The Rise of Carmine Seepage
...?!?!
The Doctor picks up one of the hints around 3:20 here:
https://youtu.be/2q2r_NIXhMY
Oh!
Btw, is Pig Finish a typo or should we now start referring to THAT COMPANY WHO JUST KEEP RUINING MY LIFE IT'S LIKE THEY CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES as such...?
Watching Five handle the cricket bat made me wonder what if the Doctor used his cricket bat the way Steve of Life and Death used his? (Steve's job is Death.)
Of course, Steve did once meet "The Physician."
I intended the 'pig' as a one-off parody. You're free to use it, but it conjures a sense that chauvinism is their defining trait.
Rorvik's Rogues: The wacky exploits of a bunch of bumbling slave traders.
The laughs just keep coming.
Actually, that sounds fantastic. Rorvik and co had a HELL of a lot of things to say about important issues like slavery, trade unions, megalomania etc and they did so in a highly amusing manner, and I'd LOVE more, providing Stephen Gallagher isn't allowed anywhere near it cos he's RUBBISH at writing these days...
Universe T/bee/18: Consuls Nyssa, Luvic, Elkor, Demia, and Mithis, Proctor Eisor, Nyssas father the Fourth Keeper, and Nyssa and Luvic’s kids Nyvi and Lusac, have peaceful shenanigans on Traken.
Actually, that sounds fantastic. Rorvik and co had a HELL of a lot of things to say about important issues like slavery, trade unions, megalomania etc and they did so in a highly amusing manner, and I'd LOVE more
Yeah it would be a fun show.
An intellectual discussion show covering important topics with a panel consisting only of Ogrons.
That would be hilarious!
Providing one of said Ogrons was Garshak-from-Mean-Streets and another was Dr-Ogron-from-Planet-of-the-Ogrons, of course.
(Garshak's been mentally-augmented and is a very successful detective and Dr Ogron thinks he's the Eighth Doctor and has got the perm and cravat and DNA to prove it and they are both EXTREMELY ADORABLE. The rest of the panel can just grunt and serve Daleks and worship orange blobs and tear kiddies' arms off the way good Ogrons SHOULD.)