Favourite Baker & Martin story?

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By Kevin (Kevin) on Thursday, July 09, 2020 - 2:37 am:

Started to post this in the Underworld board but decided to make a new thread.

Baker and Martin have contributed many Who stories, yet no all-time classic. The Three Doctors maybe, but if it's a classic it's in spite of them, not because.

They're often extremely ambitious (writing spectacle as Sandifer puts it), sometimes an orgy of ideas that don't go anywhere. Two people who definitely never said, 'Well I want to write this but the effects department could never pull it off so I won't'.

So here you go. If you had to pick your favourite Baker & Martin story, what would you pick?

The Claws of Axos
The Mutants
The Three Doctors
The Sontaran Experiment 
The Hand of Fear 
The Invisible Enemy 
Underworld
The Armageddon Factor


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Thursday, July 09, 2020 - 3:05 am:

The Hand of Fear. I'm immensely fond of it (admittedly mainly for the Farewell Scene which apparently was written by Baker n'Sladen themselves) but even if I wasn't it would still have to be Hand of Fear cos the others are all rubbish.


By Kevin (Kevin) on Thursday, July 09, 2020 - 3:33 am:

The Hand of Fear is ridiculous storywise, but yeah, it's also my pick.

Sontaran Experiment's position at the bottom of the list is uncontested.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, July 10, 2020 - 5:16 am:

They're often extremely ambitious (writing spectacle as Sandifer puts it), sometimes an orgy of ideas that don't go anywhere. Two people who definitely never said, 'Well I want to write this but the effects department could never pull it off so I won't'.

Today CGI would solve a lot of these problems.


By Kate Halprin (Kitten) on Tuesday, November 03, 2020 - 9:27 am:

'The Three Doctors' and bits of 'The Hand of Fear' and 'The Armageddon Factor' are pretty much the only stories on this list that I can watch without wanting to chew my own legs off.

Oddly Baker's solo 'Nightmare of Eden' is a lot better than any of them.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, October 06, 2021 - 5:53 am:

Two people who definitely never said, 'Well I want to write this but the effects department could never pull it off so I won't'.

When Eric Saward took over as Script Editor, he would always say to the writers: "Never give a creature tentacles, because we can't manage that."

Of course, Baker and Martin's involvement with the show seemed to end at the Graham Williams era.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Wednesday, October 06, 2021 - 12:18 pm:

When Eric Saward took over as Script Editor, he would always say to the writers: "Never give a creature tentacles, because we can't manage that."

Probably had an ulterior motive, viz, his bizarre fixation with the tentacle-free Terileptils...(See: Resurrection novelisation.)


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