Who else is a Time Lord?

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Doctor Who: Ask the Matrix: Who else is a Time Lord?
By Chris Lang on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 5:11 pm:

As someone who's watched way too much Dr. Who, I've been wondering who else in popular entertainment might be a Time Lord.

James Bond is an obvious candidate, as he seems to regenerate fairly often. And of course each Bond is a little different. Any 'plastic surgery' excuse is probably a cover story.

Oscar the Grouch of 'Sesame Street' fame has a trash can that is clearly bigger on the inside than on the outside. Others have even been able to climb inside and visit him on occassion. A TARDIS, perhaps? It's also a little known fact that in the very early days of Sesame Street, Oscar was orange (I didn't know that until I heard it on a bulletin board). Clearly, Oscar regenerated.

So, who else in popular entertainment might be a Time Lord?


By Mike Konczewski on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 7:02 am:

Snoopy, especially in the comic strip. I remember one classic strip that showed Snoopy on top of his doghouse, with the voices of Charlie Brown and Linus coming from inside. They were commenting on his pool table, stained glass window, spiral staircase, dining room, etc. In another, they removed all the boxes of empty soda bottles from inside; the amount of bottles were clearly more than could have fit inside.

Snoopy has also flown his doghouse, both as a Sopwith Camel, and as a spaceship (during Apollo 10).

At first when I read your question, I thought you meant "within the series." I was thinking of the beekeeper from "Delta and the Bannermen."


By Emily on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 11:39 am:

Chris, I think your problem is not that you 'watch way too much Doctor Who', it's that you waste time watching anything else. And the same goes double for you, Mike. SNOOPY?! When you could be rewatching 'Creature from the Pit'...


By Mike Konczewski on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 1:08 pm:

I'm multi-tasking; I can do both!

Besides, I read the comic strip I referred to years before I even heard of Doctor Who.

I seem to remember there was a magical ship in Norse mythology that was TARDIS like. It could hold dozens of warriors, but it was so cleverly constructed that you could fold it up and put it your pocket.

Another useless bit of information.


By Ed Jefferson (Ejefferson) on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 1:29 pm:

A little off topic, but the timelord idea was ripped off by DS9 with the trill.(Especially now we have Ezri!)


By Mike Konczewski on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 3:20 pm:

Some similar to that was used in the movie "Fallen", with Denzel Washington. He was a detective who discovered an undying demon was passing from body to body, causing all sorts of mayhem. The demon could transfer to another body, complete with all its memories, just by touch.


By Mei on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 9:21 pm:

Quick, how many lives would Bond have gone thru by now?
I like this one. I'll have to think about it.


By Mei on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 9:28 pm:

Oops, I already thought of one - on a show I never watched, of all things!
The mother on "Fresh Prince of Bel Air" changed between seasons - and no one commented. The closest they came to mentioning it was that one character said something about how good she looked now.
Actually, there is another one, on a short-lived sitcom called "The Charmings." (Anyone remember this one?) The premise was that Snow White and Prince Charming and the kids came forward in time. The first SW looked just right, just like the Disney version (which is the one I know best). Between the first and second seasons, they changed actresses, I never did hear a reason. And the second actress wasn't right at all. The show folded that season.
And, quite frankly, there are apparently several on the soaps. They seem to do it alot. And, if I understand properly, those people even change back. But I'm not really sure we want to consider them.


By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Saturday, January 23, 1999 - 8:27 am:

Could Han Solo be a time lord? On the inside it has 4 windows in the cockpit, but the outside only has 3.


By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Sunday, January 24, 1999 - 12:13 am:

Perhaps Darin on Bewiched was a Timelord? he was replaced by a diffrent actor at he end of the second season, I think.


By Lane avery on Sunday, January 24, 1999 - 8:12 am:

Perhaps the highlander. Just a thought


By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Sunday, January 24, 1999 - 1:26 pm:

Could Savikk from Star Treks 2 through 4 be a time lord? She suddenly looked diffrent in the 3rd film. This also explains why she looks just like Rebecca Howe.


By Mei on Sunday, January 24, 1999 - 11:00 pm:

The Highlander *probably* isn't a TimeLord, because he never changed appearances. Altho, the Master always kept the same face, too (almost).
Darren on Bewitched is definitely a TimeLord. He changed about halfway thru the series, altho he kept the same first name (Dick Sargent, Dick York). If memory serves, they replaced someone else on the show also, I think the nosy lady across the street.
Ginger from Gilligan's Island was apparently a TimeLord. She changed from the show to the movie.
Come to that, most of the Brady Bunch must be TimeLords; they all seem to have changed at some point in the show/movie run. Before the theatrical movie, they ALL changed.
Last time I mentioned the soaps. The funny thing is, alot of the characters not only change appearances, they frequently change back. Really, really strange.


By Chris Lang on Monday, January 25, 1999 - 5:17 pm:

With the Brady Bunch, it's just a case of actors getting older, though the original Marcia wisely avoided the 'Bradys' spin-off that depicted a very dysfunctional Brady family.

Meanwhile, Saban is trying to get us to believe that Captain Kangaroo has regenerated with their 'All New Captain Kangaroo'. Personally, I think the original Captain got promoted to Admiral, and the new guy will probably get demoted back to Deck Scrubber Kangaroo once the Admiral sees what he's doing to the Treasure House. (In real life, Bob Keeshan decided not to be involved with Saban's new version, fearing the worst, but Nitpickers Don't Deal in Reality).

Anyway, I put up this subject to point out changes in actor/appearance that are so radical
one finds it hard to believe that they're the same character unless they believe the character regenerated or otherwise changed their appearance. As well as noting other places that
might be potential TARDISes (bigger on the inside than on the outside). I already mentioned Oscar the Grouch, but another early 'Sesame Street' regeneration might have occured. Gordon, from what I'm told, used to be played by someone who more closely resembled Samuel L.
Jackson than the Gordon most of us are familiar with. (It wasn't Samuel L. Jackson, by the way). I'm sure this recasting tended to confuse many younger viewers, who could tell right away this wasn't the same Gordon (though apparently everyone on the show treated him as though he was). Did Gordon regenerate?

In the Batman movies, Harvey Dent clearly regenerated. He went from resembling Billy Dee Williams to a half-scarred Tommy Lee Jones. Hmm---could Two-Face's deformation actually be the result of a faulty regeneration? As for Batman himself, clearly the actor changed, but can we make a case for regeneration here, too? Maybe. Michael Keaton's Batman seemed darker than Val Kilmer's and George Clooney's. In the first two movies, Batman was a mysterious
avenger in the night. He had an alliance with the police, but otherwise was not a public figure.
In the fourth movie, however, he's willing to appear at a big society event. The Batman of the first two movies was hardly the sort to make that kind of public appearance. Apparently, the regeneration made him 'lighten up'.


By Mei on Monday, January 25, 1999 - 10:30 pm:

Hadn't thought of Batman. Maybe he and Superman are both TimeLords, and that's why they never get older. I mean, really, over fifty years, and they're still mid-30s?
There's also the fact, for Superman, that he's changed from movie to movie (Christopher Reeve was at least the second). So maybe he is. Hmmm.


By Mike Konczewski on Tuesday, January 26, 1999 - 12:14 pm:

The explanation for Superman and Batman not aging is complicated. First it's because they were different men from different dimensions. The Golden Age (and older) Bat/Superman was from Earth 2, the Silver Age (and younger) from Earth 1. Then you had the Crisis on Infinite Earths series, which pushed the big ol' Reset Button, and totally destroyed continuity.

And as far as the film Superman is concerned, just wait until the new movie starring Nicholas Cage gets underway.


By Mei on Wednesday, January 27, 1999 - 11:29 pm:

Yes, but Supes and the Bat still aren't getting any older (are they?). I have the Crisis series, and it's from close to 10 years ago, if memory serves. So they're still not getting any older.
In point of fact, there's only one superhero that I know of that got older and that was Kitty Pryde of the X-Men. And she started at age 14-15, so she really needed to get older. Haven't seen her lately; is she still aging? Or has she hit that 'golden age' and stopped?


By Chris Lang on Thursday, January 28, 1999 - 9:50 pm:

Don't bring comic books into this. Please. With nitpicking comic books, one doesn't know where to begin at times. And aging in comic books is one of the biggest issues. Lately, Marvel's claim that all the action of the past 20-30 years real time actually took place within seven or eight years has been giving me a headache.

Anyway, back to the subject of discussion. The movie Batman may have regenerated, but the movie Superman did not. It's a shame about Christopher Reeve. They could have done a movie about the 'Death of Superman' and had Reeve's Superman die facing Doomsday. Then, when Superman returns to life, Reeve's successor would play him. It would be a sort of 'Doctor Who regeneration' way of passing the torch.

Last I heard, however, Nicholas Cage was NOT going to be the new movie Superman. And, last I heard, it was unclear whether or not the new Superman movie was going to get off the ground. But that's a side issue.

Anyway, Superman's Kryptonian background is well-documented, so it's unlikely that he's a Time Lord. And what about Zefram Cochrane's change of appearance? Did he regenerate, or did the Companion or somebody give him a new body and/or appearance?


By Mike Konczewski on Friday, January 29, 1999 - 6:20 am:

I think the Companion must have changed Cochrane's appearance. Otherwise, Kirk or Spock would have recognised him. After all, Cochrane is a legend in their time.


By Mei on Friday, January 29, 1999 - 10:42 pm:

I thought the Companion just made Cochrane younger. But Mike's right; Kirk or Spock should have recognized him if that's all it was.
Then again, he seems to have changed quite a bit from "First Contact." Hmmmm. Wonder why...?


By Todd M. Pence on Saturday, January 30, 1999 - 9:26 am:

On the James Bond question: Bond's age is never given in the movies, although the biographical information from the novel of You Only Live Twice (which states that Bond was born in 1927) is generally accepted as canonical for the movies too. That means that Bond is now pushing 72, perhaps a little too old for all this derring-do . . .


By Chris Thomas on Sunday, January 31, 1999 - 10:29 am:

Well, only the Brits and Aussies will pick this - back in my rash, younger days I actually watched that horriblie soap Neighbours - yes, horror of horrors - and Lucy Robinson was played by a total of three different actors... Kylie Flinker, Sascha (something) and Melissa Bell. A Time Lady?
And there were two Pippas on Home And Away...


By Mike Konczewski on Monday, February 01, 1999 - 8:48 am:

Is Kylie Flinker any relation to Kylie Minogue?


By Chris Thomas on Tuesday, February 02, 1999 - 1:11 am:

Not at all. Their surnames are different to start with. Kylie Minogue has a sister but her name is Dannii. Kylie Minogue did appear in this series as Charlene, however, and her character married Scoot Robinson (played by Jason Donovan), Lucy's older brother. So the characters would sister-in-laws but there is no connection in real life.


By Mike Konczewski on Tuesday, February 02, 1999 - 10:17 am:

I've only seen about 47 seconds of "Neighbours"; a clip with Kylie Minogue, and a series of clips with Natalie Imbroglia kissing some blond surfie. Natalie's all the rage in the US these days; she's got two songs in the top 20.


By Chris Thomas on Wednesday, February 03, 1999 - 2:56 am:

Only 47 seconds - count yourself lucky. It's still cursing us 6.30pm week nights 14 years on (without Minogue and Imbruglia of course)


By Mike Konczewski on Wednesday, February 03, 1999 - 6:39 am:

Well, the US has to deal with "Beveryly Hills 90210", "Melrose Place" (not much longer, thank ghod), and a host of prime-time soaps. At least we get "EastEnders" on PBS (my guilty pleasure).


By Chris Thomas on Saturday, March 06, 1999 - 10:44 pm:

What about Chuck from Happy Days, Richie's older brother? He was a redhead, then a blond, played by two different actors. Then after series one or two he disappeared, never to be seen or referred to again. Maybe he grew weary of 1957 Milwaukee? Maybe the Cunningham family was just his cover? Maybe he was exiled for a bit?


By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Sunday, March 07, 1999 - 2:31 pm:

What about Becky from Rosanne? She was one actress, than another, then went back to her old look.


By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Sunday, March 07, 1999 - 2:38 pm:

Danny Tanner of Full House/Two of a Kind might be a time lord. Here's the time line:

Full House Finalle- DJ goes of to college (Which college?)

After finalle-Jessie & Rebecca get their own house.

Between Full House and Two of a Kind- Joey and Stephanie find Danny's TARDIS and are lost in space.

-Danny dies and is regenerated as a College Professor. (Name?)

-Some as yet unrevealed transporter and/or cloning experiment involving Michelle. (Conjecture- A transporter creates 2 Michelles with diffrent peronalities. One is tomboyish and likes sports. The other is very feminine and likes fashion stuff.) The Michelles take the names May Kate and Ashley,

Two of a Kind pilot- Professor Danny hires a babysitter for his "Twins".


By Richard Davies on Saturday, May 15, 1999 - 4:02 pm:

A possible Timelord would be Shirlie's Dad from "Citizan
Smith". (BBC1 1977_80) He was played by Arto Morris in the
pilot (With a welsh accent). Then he was played for the first
2 series by Peter Vaughn (With a yorkshire accent). In the
last series he was played by Tony Steadman, who wasn't all
that different from Peter Vaughn.

Lois Lane could be a time lady, She was played in the 30's
serials by Noel Neal, then on TV by Phyllis Coates for the first series, then changed back to Noel Neal.

There are loads more I can think up


By Scott McClenny on Wednesday, July 07, 1999 - 8:29 pm:

I think that Gary Seven in the Classic Trek
episode ASSIGNMENT:EARTH must have been sent to
Earth by the Time Lords.

The cat on Early Edition has to be a Time Cat,
otherwise his lengthy life span is hard to really
understand,and when we're at it could Lucius Snow
the printer who willed Gary the paper be an exiled
Time Lord?

Kelly Hu must be a Time Lady or how else do we
explain her dying in Nash Bridges and showing up
later on Martial Law?

John "The Bisquit"Cage on Ally McBeal(just kidding
but he would make a great American verson of the
second Doctor,they both have loads of quirks).

Dogbert on Dilbert.

And finally Mulder and Scully!!!!:)Hey,X-Files
does tend to be strange so why not?


By Scott McClenny on Monday, July 19, 1999 - 4:23 pm:

First,just kidding about Kelly Hu,I know, I know
she plays two different characters on Nash Bridges
and Martial Law.:)

Ok,How about the Szelinsky family on Honey:I Shrunk The Kids?

Hercules' mother, Alcamene,she was played by
at least two different women.One in the telemovies
and one on the tv series.


By Anthony on Monday, July 19, 1999 - 5:44 pm:

Someone once wrote a fan-fiction story called "The Doctor and the Enterprise-D," a crossover in which the Fourth Doctor and Sarah Jane visited Picard's Enterprise, which revealed that Guinan is a Time Lord. It also claimed that Q is actually the Celestial Toymaker, and that Guinan had been assigned to be his "guardian" to keep him from making trouble, or something like that. I think the story was written before the release of "Star Trek Generations," which gives a little more information than we had previously on Guinan's background (she belongs to a race called the El-Aurians).


By Steve M. on Monday, September 13, 1999 - 10:23 am:

In the 1960's 'Batman' series, the Caped Crusader encountered four different incarnations of Mister Freeze, two versions of the Riddler (Frank Gorshin and John Astin), and two versions of The Catwoman, so they must all be Time Lords and Time Ladies.


By Luiner on Tuesday, September 14, 1999 - 12:38 am:

I believe there were three versions of Catwoman in that series. Eartha Kit, Lee Meriwether, and Julie Newmar.


By rachgd on Tuesday, September 14, 1999 - 1:53 am:

Mary Poppins.

Let's assess the evidence. First of all, time nor space nor distance are any impediment to her. That carpet bag of hers - way bigger on the inside. She flies around the place righting wrongs and fixing everyone's lives. Women scream when she's in the vicinity (maids in particular). Her past is mysterious and kept deliberately vague. She has a scarf. And, more to the point - she's English!
All of which makes her a shoe-in as a Time Lord - and makes Bert a very early Companion!


By Steve M. on Tuesday, September 14, 1999 - 7:26 am:

Luiner, you're right; Lee Meriwether counts, even though it was the first Batman movie that she replaced Julie Newmar in. Of course, if we include the movies, we're up to four Batmen, two Robins, two Alfreds, five Catwomen, five Mister Freezes, two Penguins, three Riddlers, two Jokers, and two Commisioner Gordons. Thank God we've only got ONE Aunt Harriet!


By Chris Thomas on Tuesday, September 14, 1999 - 7:56 am:

Interestingly, didn't Michael Gough play Alfred in the George Clooney Batman film? He's already played an Omega-loving Time Lord and a Celestial Toymaker...


By Steve M. on Tuesday, September 14, 1999 - 10:01 am:

Hmmmmmmm.....!


By Luiner on Wednesday, September 15, 1999 - 12:05 am:

Now if you add the Batman cartoons, you get...

Nevermind.

Now I know why Alfred looked familiar in that movie. Actually all the Batman movies. He was also in Blake 7, The Avengers, and Moonbase 3. That guy gets around. Hmmmmmmm indeed.


By Ed Jefferson (Ejefferson) on Wednesday, September 15, 1999 - 2:12 pm:

Actaully, just changing appearance isn't evidence for being a Time Lord. It's evidence for having associations with the TLs. Just ask one Chris Cwej.


By Chris Thomas on Tuesday, September 21, 1999 - 3:50 am:

Caught a bit of the Wombles the other day - surely Orinoco with his burgundy hat and long scarf might qualify, especially with this Doctor-ish look?


By Luiner on Tuesday, September 21, 1999 - 11:25 pm:

Wow, the Wombles is still on the air? I've forgotten about the scarf. When I was a kid I always did think he had a resemblance to Doc#4.


By Chris Thomas on Wednesday, September 22, 1999 - 2:42 am:

Well, it's currently screening in Australia at 4pm weekdays on ABC. The copyright date for the series is 1997. It looked a little more up to date so I checked at the end.


By Ed Jefferson (Ejefferson) on Wednesday, September 22, 1999 - 6:03 am:

Luiner- it's been shown here too on Children's ITV. I saw a tape of it, but it's just not as good as it used to be.


By Chris Todaro on Wednesday, September 22, 1999 - 11:43 am:

How about Kenny from "South Park?" He keeps getting killed an coming back to life!


By Will Spencer on Wednesday, September 22, 1999 - 2:48 pm:

Stan;"Oh, my God! You killed the Doctor!"
Kiyle "You #@*^#@s!"
Stan; "Oh, wait. He's regenerating!"
Kyle "Oh. Never mind."


By Chris Thomas on Monday, October 18, 1999 - 7:09 am:

Two thoughts: Yoda - isn't he 900 years old or something? (Could be at the end of his 13th life, given his appearance).
And The Phantom... the ghost who walks, man who cannot die...


By PJW on Monday, October 18, 1999 - 11:35 am:

Bruce Wayne keeps changing, (Keaton, Kilmer, Clooney, West), likes big gothic rooms, and is in cahoots with Councillr Hedin. He takes Dick Grayson under his wing, like he were a companion, and Robin gets into trouble in a very Leela-like way. Wayne also has a semi-mysterious past. His adversaries are regular too, popping up time and time again.

James Bond could also be a Time Lord too. He probably has a sonic screwdriver amongst his gadgets. Perhaps at the end of a View to a Kill, for example, Moore collapsed to the floor after his old body started to wear a bit thin!

And the whole vodka Martini thing is on a par with the jelly babies! :)


By PJW on Monday, October 18, 1999 - 11:37 am:

Oops! Checked the past postings and found both the examples bandied about already! Curse my diabolical repetition!


By PJW on Monday, October 18, 1999 - 11:39 am:

What about Barbara Cartland. I bet nobody's thought of Barbara Cartland. She could be going through a Peter Pratt phase...


By Chris Thomas on Wednesday, January 05, 2000 - 2:15 am:

In reference to my Happy Days post above about Chuck being a Time Lord, there was a cartoon spin-off called Fonz and the Happy Days Gang which featured the Fonz, Richie, Ralph, a space girl called Cupcake and the dog Mr Cool who travelled through time.
Maybe it was Chuck's TARDIS that Richie found and Cupcake was living inside. But what happened to Chuck if he was a Time Lord? Maybe the blond version was his 13th incarnation and then he died? The rest of the Cunninghams must have been some sort of surrogate family or maybe Chuck was in hiding.
And then there were the episodes where Mork from Ork paid Richie a visit - a result of the Time Lord connection?
See? It all makes perfect sense now!


By CBC on Thursday, January 13, 2000 - 2:52 pm:

There were also two Chris Partridges in 'The Partridge Family'. Now we know how badly Time Lords are at drumming.


By Chris Thomas on Saturday, April 01, 2000 - 8:28 pm:

Caught "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" the other day and my girlfriend said "I see why you like this, it has a Doctor Who-like quality".

Gene Wilder in that purple coat and his detached manner, plus his wry sense of humour, makes me think he's another incarnation of the Doctor, not just a Time Lord.
The evidence?
* The factory is a magical world with chocolate rivers and an abundance of rooms, quite possibly bigger on the inside than out to fit everything in - just like the TARDIS.
* At one point everyone goes through a door into a corridor, then leave by the same door, only to be in a different room. TARDIS-like again.
* The various contraptions in different rooms are reminiscent of some of the stuff we see in the Hartnell and Pertwee eras.
* The subliminal way out stuff we see while they're on the boat ride is just the sort of wild experimentation we may have seen in Doctor Who.
* The various people being taken around the factory never get a straight answer from Willy Wonka.
* The Oompa Loompas come from Oompaloompaland and the geography teacher says she's never heard of it. If Willy Wonka is the Doctor, then we have a better idea that he may have got them somewhere else than earth.
* Willy Wonka is at various times dark, humorous, angry and mysterious.


Lines such as "The suspense is killing me; I hope it will last" and, after he drops some football shoes in some concoction, he says it's to "give it a bit of kick".

Almost Doctor Who by any other name to me!


By Luiner on Tuesday, April 04, 2000 - 4:58 am:

Actually, Willy Wonka reminds me alot of the Mind Robber dude in the Troughton era.


By Chris Thomas on Thursday, April 06, 2000 - 8:25 am:

The Master? (Not to be confused with the Master we all know).


By Luiner on Friday, April 07, 2000 - 3:03 am:

Yeah, I think that is who it was. I guess I should watch it again, it being one of my favourites.


By Anonymous on Monday, May 22, 2000 - 10:03 pm:

//By Steve M. on Tuesday, September 14, 1999 - 09:26 am:
[snip]we're up to four Batmen, two Robins, two Alfreds, five Catwomen, five Mister Freezes, two Penguins, three Riddlers, two Jokers, and two Commisioner Gordons. Thank God we've only got ONE Aunt Harriet! //

(singing) "And a partridge in a pear tree" (/singing)

Sorry, couldn't resist :)


By Chris Thomas on Thursday, May 25, 2000 - 1:40 am:

Take a look at how Madonna has changed over the years - don't tell me it's the same person!


By PJW on Thursday, May 25, 2000 - 8:02 am:

David Bowie keeps regenerating himself too. Coincidentily, people think his eighties stuff wasn't as good as his mid-seventies work, (like Doctor Who). His film work hasn't been entirely successful either.


By Anonymous on Thursday, May 25, 2000 - 10:23 am:

And Michael Jackson certainly (shudder) regenerated into (shudder) someTHING other than normal. Must have been his thirteenth and last regeneration to cause such deformities and mental imbalance.


By Gordon Lawyer on Friday, May 26, 2000 - 11:33 am:

How about Chauncy and Edgar from the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show?


By Gordon Lawyer on Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 7:21 am:

Duncan Idaho. Though I think he's far past the thirteen lives limit.


By PJW on Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 2:31 pm:

Who's Duncan Idaho?


By PJW on Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 2:31 pm:

Who's Duncan Idaho?


By ScottN on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 12:16 am:

From Dune. He was reincarnated zillions of times.


By ScottN on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 12:17 am:

From Dune. He was reincarnated zillions of times.

Jan Brady may be a Time Lord. She changed actresses for the Brady Bunch TV movies.


By Chris Thomas on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 3:25 am:

She only ever changed for The Brady Bunch Variety Hour in 1977 - it was Eve Plumb in all the others, according to Barry Williams' Growing Up Brady.

Unless you count the spoof films The Brady Bunch Movie and A Very Brady Sequel, which featured a complete recast of the bunch.


By ScottN on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 9:42 am:

It wasn't her in the Brady Bunch Christmas Special.


By ScottN on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 9:43 am:

Whoops! Pardon me, I meant "A Very Brady Christmas". You know, the one where a building falls on Mr. Brady.


By Chris Thomas on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 6:45 pm:

That was Cindy who was recast for that one, not Jan.


By John A. Lang on Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 9:41 am:

Zephram Cochrane----his appearances from "Metamorphosis" & "First Contact" are diffrerent...they try to explain it away by saying it was "radiation poisoning" and "the Companion" regenerated him somehow.

HMMMM!

Sounds like a Time Lord to me!


By Chris Thomas on Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 11:43 am:

Mind you, you don't have to be a Time Lord to be able to regenerate if the Minyans and Mawdryn's mob are anything to go by.


By Emily on Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 1:19 pm:

Ah, but if you don't a) repeat 'The Quest is the Quest' at least five times a day, or b) have spaggetti on your head, a change of appearance does rather indicate that you ARE a Time Lord.


By KAM on Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 9:35 pm:

Or it could indicate you know a good plastic surgeon. ;-)

Maybe Gallifrey is actually based in California?


By Harry on Sunday, July 29, 2001 - 1:43 pm:

"EastEnders" is FULL of Time Lords!!Mark Fowler was played by a different actor before Todd Carty,who may have chosen his new body a la Romana to please Suzanne Tully,who was in "Grange Hill" with him.Peggy Mitchell went from being a tall heavy woman to Barbara Windsor.And that De Marco woman looked a lot like an older Leela,maybe she had a family with Andred and came to Earth???;-))


By Dan Garrett on Sunday, July 29, 2001 - 3:13 pm:

Apparently Sam Mitchell (as was played by the notorious Danniella Westbrook) is about to regenerate.


By Dan Garrett on Sunday, July 29, 2001 - 3:17 pm:

Also did'nt John-Boy from the Waltons regenerate into a very similar incarnation? Sans facial mole.

Later on he changed back for the tv movies.


By Sir Rhosis on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 4:33 pm:

Tarzan, the most regenerated lead character in film history, save perhaps Sherlock Holmes and Robin Hood.

And Batman had two other incarnations in 1940s serials -- Liwis Wilson and Robert Lowery (with two diffrent Robins, etc.)

Sir Rhosis


By Sven of K9 on Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 7:54 am:

James Bond was the first one mentioned here - but what about his CIA counterpart and dare I say, friend, Felix Leiter?

And, for that matter, what about M? Or Ernst "Davros" (sorry) Blofeld?

DS9's Dax and her kind could be considered a breed of time lord... sort-of.

What about Bill and Ted? They didn't regenerate, but they did come back from the dead. And, of course, they travelled through space and time in a telephone box.


By Mike Konczewski on Monday, September 30, 2002 - 8:39 am:

Good point about Felix Leiter. He's not only changed faces, but races--in at least one Bond adventure, Leiter changed from Caucasian to Black!


By Sven of Nineteen Eighty Five on Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 1:46 pm:

Another theory: Jennifer Parker was the REAL power behind the "Back to the Future" films. Yes, I believe she was also a Time Lord! For one thing, she's been played by two different actresses.


By Scott McClenny on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 11:55 pm:

The Phantom don't count,that was a line from father to son over the generations,so what people thought as one man was actually a family!

so how about:

*Fonzie,that could explain why he can do what he can do!:)

*Ginger and/or Mary Ann,one of them is actually a previously unseen Regeneration of Romana.:)

*Scooby Doo and Shaggy,explains their strange
metabolisms.


By Edwin on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 1:14 pm:

Who are Ginger and Mary Ann?


By KAM on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 5:40 am:

Ginger is "the movie star" & Mary Ann is sometimes lumped in with the Professor as "all the rest, here on Gilligan's Isle!"

But while several actresses have played Ginger, I thought only Dawn Wells played Mary Ann.


By Scott McClenny on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 12:15 am:

That is quite true.There were at least three or maybe four who played Ginger on GI,the reason being Tina Louise was reluctant to play Ginger after the show was cancelled.


By goog on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 4:22 am:

We get Sesame Street and cartoon characters, but no one's mentioned Travis of Blake's 7.


By KAM on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 4:59 am:

Probably because his eye & hand didn't regenerate with the rest of him. ;-)


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 5:10 am:

Becky on Rosanne was played by two different actresses. I guess she regenerated from Lecy Goranson into Sarah Chalke.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 5:45 am:

And then back.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 5:52 am:

Actually the part went back and forth between the two actresses towards the end of the show.

I guess the regeneration was unstable :-)


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 6:29 am:

So was the show at that point. ;-)

I'd given up watching it toward the end, so I didn't know about the back & forth casting there. Weird.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 7:01 pm:

Yeah, in the final two seasons, when one actress wasn't available, the other stepped in.


By Judibug (Judibug) on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - 1:16 am:

Boy Meets World
We know that regeneration can be achieved through non biological means in the Whoniverse. Obviously, the Matthews family had an encounter with the Doctor, in the course of which the Lily Nicksay incarnation of Morgan Matthews was gravely injured and, to save Morgan's life, the Doctor placed Morgan into the regeneration machinery in his TARDIS and Morgan regenerated into her Lindsay Ridgeway incarnation. That's why the Second Morgan talks about "the longest time out i ever had" in her first episode - it was to deal with post-regeneration trauma.


By Judibug (Judibug) on Sunday, October 13, 2019 - 5:42 am:

There have been many incarnations of Blackadder, mostly called Edmund - yet we never seen him marry, let alone raise a child. The same can be said of Baldrick, Percy, Melchett, and George - when did THEY have time to raise a family?

Perhaps they are all Time Lords?


By Aledi vi Sepul (Aledi_vi_sepul) on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 - 10:54 am:

The Pokémon player character could be regenerations of the same Time Lords with the various Pokémon being kept after regeneration.

Or maybe Aroush's the regeneration of Dovanice!


By Brad J Filippone (Binro_the_heretic) on Monday, April 01, 2024 - 5:44 am:

The U.S. sitcom Bewitched (1964 - 1972) has several examples. The most famous is Darrin who was played by Dick York, but when he couldn't continue for health reasons, he was replaced by Dick Sargent for the final three years. No explanation was given for his sudden change in appearance, even though the show deals with witchcraft (of the storybook variety) and Darrin's form was changed for comical reasons many times.

There was also the nosy neighbor Gladys Kravitz. Her original portrayer, Alice Pearce, died of cancer after two seasons and was replaced by Sandra Gould.

There was also the character of Louise Tate who was played by two actresses. And Darrin's father as well, although in that case the original actor returned towards the end of the series.

And, since Santa Claus is a real person in the world of Bewitched, I will mention that in four appearances, he was played by four different actors! Well, he's Santa, so that's all the explanation we need.


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