Tegan Jovanka

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Doctor Who: Companions: Classic Who: Tegan Jovanka
'I was an air hostess in the early '80s, and, trust me, compared to that, a building full of Cybermen is nothing.'

Hell's teeth! She sells her soul to the Mara and drops apples on Aris's head. She doesn't like Turlough. She's Sir Doctor's Squire. She doesn't like Kamelion. She's just a mouth on legs. She's a renegade human in the walls. She thinks 'if' is the most powerful word in the English language. She doesn't like Omega. She's groggy, sore and bad-tempered. She's a gobby Australian. She doesn't like Terileptils. She's a robot the Doctor got cheap because the walk's not quite right...and then there's the accent. Oh, rabbits!

By Chris Thomas on Friday, December 25, 1998 - 1:07 am:

Moderator's Note: This is Mike's original Tegan summary:

I really liked Tegan, thanks to Janet Fielding's excellent performances. She was great in "Kinda" and "Snakedance." Then there was her gratuitous hysterical fit in "Four to Doomsday." I just didn't believe it. Tegan kept her cool (mostly) in "Logopolis" and "Castrovalva"; why did she crack now?




Sometimes you manage to keep all the stress and everything inside you, then you blow up or break down at the most inappropriate times, when nobody is expecting it and they see no reason for your outburst, not realising it's something that has been compounding itself for a while.


By Emily on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 11:58 am:

The trouble with that theory is that Tegan was NOT one for keeping her stress bottled up inside.


By Mike Konczewski on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 1:05 pm:

How did that scene in "The Visitation" go?--
the Doctor (to Tegan) "How do you feel?"
Tegan: "Sore, groggy, and bad tempered!"
the Doctor: "Almost your old self!"

..or words to that effect.


By Chris Thomas on Sunday, January 31, 1999 - 10:51 am:

People are complex things - we can be cool and calm in some stressful situations and then go off our nut at the simplest things. Tegan is just irritated by what she sees as the Doctor's incompetence. From memory, she's from Brisbane but was on a farm before that and the functioning of the farm would have relied on reliable machinery.


By Mike Konczewski on Monday, February 01, 1999 - 8:34 am:

That, and her preoccupation with her fledgling career as an airhostess. Tegan was always popping off with "who's the pilot?" and "who's flying this aircraft?", as if the airlines always ran perfectly. Guess she's never had a 8 hour layover at Heathrow.


By Chris Thomas on Saturday, April 22, 2000 - 1:41 am:

How real was that purple uniform of hers? Most air stewards I've ever seen tend to wear navy blue.


By Emily on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 12:30 pm:

Dunno about the uniform, Chris, airhostesses are creatures I tend to steer well clear of. What were the ones in Timeflight wearing? Anyway, this is an alternative universe, no doubt all the alien interference had an unforeseeable effect on a lot of minor things.

Why was Tegan so upset when Adric died? Maybe it was just that she liked shrieking about things, but still, I'd have expected her to be less concerned than the Doctor and Nyssa, not more.


By Chris Thomas on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 11:55 pm:

Maybe she secretly fancied him but covered it up by shrieking all the time.


By Luiner on Friday, December 01, 2000 - 2:09 am:

Oh MAN! You did not just go there.

Okay, let me explain my soap opera theory here. Tegan and the Doctor had a thing going. Adric was the third wheel. He had a thing for Tegan, but was brushed off, quite rightly, by her. Still, she must have felt the loss of an admirer, even one so young and nerdy as he.

After all, the Doctor was the Alpha Male in the TARDIS. She would instinctively go for him. But when her needs aren't met for whatever and unlikely reasons Adric, the Beta Male, would make a possible substitute for her affections. The loss of Adric change the whole relationship strategy. The Doctor might start paying attention to Nyssa all of a sudden and Tegan would have nobody to fall back on.

Okay, all of the above is pure krap (well, except the Doctor-Tegan dalliance) as I don't pretend to be some sociologist. The more likely reason was that Tegan was more emotional throughout her tenure in the series than the rest, it only made sense that she would be the one who looked the most shocked over Adric's death.


By Chris Thomas on Monday, December 04, 2000 - 6:45 am:

You can be surprised at how sensitive brash people can be.


By Emily on Monday, December 04, 2000 - 3:34 pm:

OK, accepting Tegan's emotionality (and NOTHING else Luiner said) and her hitherto unsuspected sensitivity, that still leaves me wondering why Nyssa and the Doc weren't more affected. I always think of Davison as the most caring Doctor (mainly because he was idiotic enough to try to help put that shopping back in its basket instead of saving the universe in Arc of Infinity). (On second thoughts, maybe I just think of him as that bland wimp.) Anyway, as the most human-like Doctor it's his duty to get all emotional over his human pets - sacrificing his life for Peri of all people, KISSING Nyssa good-bye, and all that - hence I expected more for Adric than a two-line eulogy and a brisk 'now let's go on holiday.'

As for Nyssa, I don't know why I expected her to give a toss about Adric when she'd barely batted an eyelid at the destruction of her entire galaxy, but I think (despite a lot of scepticism about the supposed utopian-ness of Traken) I swallowed all that stuff in Sands of Time about her being the embodiment of goodness and purity - and therefore likely to care about even such a waste of space as Adric. She DID sacrifice a lot for a bunch of lepers, after all.


By Mike Konczewski on Monday, December 04, 2000 - 4:01 pm:

Why should the Doctor be upset about leaving Tegan at Heathrow? All she's been complaining about since "Logopolis" was how she needed to get BACK to Heathrow!! Now the Doctor's returned her to her correct time and space, and she decides she's upset??!

Also, keep in mind that we don't know how much time has elapsed between "Timeflight" and "Arc of Infinity." It was only several months for Tegan, but it could have been years for the Doctor and Nyssa.


By Pete on Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 3:34 am:

Tegan's emotional strangeness explained:

Assuming that all our fates are controlled and pre-ordained, (if you like, scripted), and the things we do and words we say are likewise controlled and pre-ordained by some force or other, (we can, I dunno, for the sake of arguement call them scriptwriters), then I conclude that Tegan's character is as it was because she was scripted by scriptwriters. Poorly.

I've never read sex into the Fifth Doctor's adventures, I have to say. The Doctor, (An Alpha Male for sure, but no sex king), was in the case of the Fifth Doctor's jaunts a man surrounded by children. Of all the Doctors, he was the one least likely to have it away, IMHO. The ONLY reason this did he/didn't he thing surfaced was because the Doctor had, (shock horror), more than two people in the TARDIS with him. Because obviously, this constitutes an orgy.

No, if you think about it, the Doctor - surrounded by the nerd Adric, the screaming hawk Tegan and the flaccid unexciting Nyssa - simply bottled up his sexual desires and watched all those around him as they gradually did his head in. Sex? No. Let's be frank here, the Doctor come Resurrection of the Daleks was so sexually pent-up, he deliberately set the ship on course to Lanzarote in the hope of a 'good time'. He found himself a nice and busty American thing and, if the Fifth Doctor was to have sex at all during his time, it was between Planet of Fire and Caves of Androzani. The excitement, (and not the spectrox as he might have us believe), caused him to regenerate into the Sixth Doctor. This, surely, is no coincidence. I rest my case.


By Chris Thomas on Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 5:31 am:

The Fifth Doctor least likely to have it away? Sorry, but I just can't picture Hartnell there, even with Cameca.


By Luiner on Sunday, March 04, 2001 - 4:52 am:

Tegan a victim of scriptwriters? Perhaps you are channeling Erasmus, specifically his The Praise of Folly. All the world is a stage and that sort of thing. I wonder who my scripwriter is? Is it possible to kill him?

If the 5th Doc was going to have sex with anybody, it would be Tegan. He is more affectionate with her than the others. Nyssa was way, way too young for him (okay, physically too young, since the Doctor is several hundred years old everybody would be too young if we used numerical age). I never bought into the Doc being gay, despite the Doctor/Master fanfic out there, so Adric is out. As far as Peri, he hasn't really got to know her enough before he regenerated. The 5th Doc never came across as the one night stand kind of guy. Maybe they would have, given time, but then Doc regenerated and it would take time for Peri to trust him enough to do the wild thing. Though after the strangling, post regeneration, I doubt Peri had much interest in the Doc, since. She sure seem to be interested in the DJ in Revelation of the Daleks.


By Chris Thomas on Sunday, March 04, 2001 - 6:45 pm:

Maybe it was because the DJ didn't lust after her and the music reminded her of home?


By Luiner on Monday, March 05, 2001 - 2:35 am:

I suspect that was the main reason, what with his fake American accent and playing classical music, which appears to be 1960's and 1970's popular music of Earth.

Of all the guys she met, he must of been the most attractive. Too bad he had to die. He was a lot better for her than some mad warrior king.


By Mandy on Friday, October 19, 2001 - 5:15 am:

I've decided I rather like Tegan, even if she is a little hysterical at times. She's the only one of the present, or near present, group to have a sense of humor ("I'm just a mouth on legs"), which is one of the things I like best about the Doctor. Nyssa was painfully serious, Adric too childish, and Turlough's just too scheming for any real humor to show through. I haven't met Peri yet, but so far Tegan wins handsdown. (I still like the purple air hostess outfit, but then I like the cricketing gear so what do I know?)


By Emily on Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 1:49 pm:

Don't worry about Peri beating Tegan in the humour stakes. She makes what I can only assume to be an attempted joke about glass and sand at the beginning of Caves of Androzani that's so lame even the Davison Doctor tells her that 'Sarcasm is not your strong point.'

The purple uniform is...OK I suppose. At least Janet Fielding didn't have to be sewn into it, with resultant blisters, like her later costume. It's just that...well...I find the fact that she kept it on for several months slightly worrying. Though I suppose it served as a permanent reminder to the Doctor that she desperately wanted to get home and get on with air-hostessing. Turlough had no such excuse for wearing the uniform of a school he despised.


By Eric on Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 4:16 pm:

Yes, JNT seemed to be making a game of it: "How many ways can I make it impossible for the viewer to suspend disbelief?" If that was the game, the never-change-their-clothes routine was one of his greatest, er, successes.

I finally had to convince myself that everyone in the TARDIS, including the Doctor, *did* wash/change their clothes and wear different things on a regular basis. The adventures we saw on TV just happened to occur at the same point in everybody's laundry cycle. So there must be plenty of missing adventures in which the Doctor wasn't dressed like a cricket (or whatever they call cricket players), Adric wasn't in his pajamas, Tegan wasn't purple, and Nyssa wasn't dressed as a....whatever she was.

As for all those story-to-story cliffhangers and soap opera-ish scenes which seemed to imply that there was no time between TV adventures....um, actually there were months, perhaps even years, between some stories. The characters just, um, happened to be talking about old times at the moment we viewers tuned in.

Just the other day some friends and I were discussing a funny thing that had happened at work years ago. But someone listening to only a part of the conversation might have thought the thing were talking about had happened only yesterday. So...it could happen. Couldn't it?


By Mandy on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 6:58 am:

Reminds me of a trip I took across country with Grandma. Every time we took a picture (Grand Canyon, Mesa Verde, Dodge City), she was always wearing this same blue-striped top; made it look like she wore nothing else for two weeks!

Of course, we are talking about a fortnight vacation, not months and months.....


By scott mcclenny on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 9:45 pm:

Tegan is probably one of the more human of the
companions.


By KAM on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 2:20 am:

If you define Human as Loud, Obnoxious, Annoying...

Gee, I guess you're right.


By Scott McClenny on Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 11:08 pm:

I find Adric a lot more obnoxious and annoying.
At least Tegan didn't cause the extinction of the
dinosaurs the way Adric did!:)
On the bright side for Adric at least he isn't
as annoying and obnoxious a character as Wesley
Crusher on STNG!


By Chief Sharky on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 5:06 am:

There is a new Past Doctor Adventure novel coming out soon featuring the Fifth Doctor, Nyssa, and Tegan. It is called Fear Of The Dark. I believe it will be out next month sometime.


By Scott McClenny on Saturday, October 05, 2002 - 3:19 pm:

For some reason I haven't been able to find any DW novels around here for quite awhile.Looks like they aren't selling them any more where I buy.:(

My fave scene in a MA is the scene in Crystal Bucephelaus where Tegan and friend are transported to contemporary London and are face to face at MacDonald's with a rather peeved waitress named "Dorothy".Of course what makes it so fun is that y'know "Dorothy" is really ACE!:)


By Chief Sharky on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 4:23 pm:

That's odd, it says that this forum was posted in today, November 30, but I don't see any new entries. Was something deleted? If so, why?

Just curious.


By Mark V Thomas on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 9:14 pm:

Re:Last comment
Chief, a mischevous "anonymous" poster put in a 2 part post of Femslash fanfic on both the Tegan & Nyssa threads, involving them in sexual activity with each other.
As a result, half of said fic aka "Part 1" was deleted by the moderator...
(The other half is still for the moment, on the Nyssa thread....).
Yours, worried about a new "Troll"....


By Chief Sharky on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 2:36 am:

I just read what was written in the Nyssa thread. My reaction, in the words of the immortal Frank Barone: Holy Cr*p! (you'd have to be a fan of Everybody Loves Raymond to know who Frank Barone is, he's Raymond's father).

Anyway, I imagine it will be deleted soon. The Mods here are pretty good.


By Mike the Moderator on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 10:59 am:

Aw, jeez, I caught the Tegan one, but missed the Nyssa one. I hope everyone was able to withstand the horror of sharing cyberspace with the writings of a 10-year old (mentally, that is) pervert.


By Chief Sharky on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 5:07 pm:

That's okay, Mike. This stuff happens sometime, a price we pay for having an open forum like this. As long as there are good Mods like you on the job, we have nothing to worry about.


By Emily on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 1:23 pm:

Woo-hoo! Tegan's gonna be in Big Finish!!! Either she's REALLY desperate for money or she's repented of her evil ways (though knowing Big Finish, whatever script she's lumbered with will no doubt confirm all her worst suspicions about Doctor Who).


By Chris Todaro on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 1:28 pm:

I wonder if she'll be paired up with Davison, or another Doctor. I thought she worked well with Colin in the "Jim'll Fix It" sketch.


By Chief Sharky on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 1:33 pm:

"I wonder if she'll be paired up with Davison"


My guess is that they'll reteam Janet Fielding with Peter Davison and Sarah Sutton. The Doctor, Nyssa, and Tegan could have some adventures in the space between the time Tegan returned to the TARDIS (Arc Of Infinity), and when Turlough joined them (Mawdryn Undead). After all, they managed to squeeze a few PDA and MA novels into that time frame.


By Emily on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 8:37 am:

Omigawd. They've got JOSEPH LIDSTER to write Tegan's first (and obviously, given this fact, last) audio. Why not just go the whole hog and ask MICK LEWIS, for god's sake???


By Chris Thomas on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 9:12 pm:

Word is the Fifth Doctor catches up with Tegan *after* her departure.


By Kevin on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 7:36 pm:

This would be the second time, after Time Flight/Arc of Infinity. Seems Tegan is some kind of galactic yo-yo.


By Mike Konczewski on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 7:44 am:

Third--an unspecified future incarnation met up with a middle-aged Tegan in one of the "Short Trips" short stories. It may not be canon, though


By Chief Sharky on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 8:52 am:

Well, Tegan and the Doctor parted under rather bad circumstances. It would be nice for the two of them to meet up again and renew their friendship.


By Chris Thomas on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 6:51 pm:

There was one piece of fanfic that saw Tegan get an ultrasound after she left and it was discovered her foetus had a double heartbeat.


By Frobisher The Living God, who wants to use K9 as a Rollerskate on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 11:26 am:

Re:"Tegan's Pregnant" Fanfic
I did read said piece, ("New" Skaro 15 ?) & I think Keith Topping was it's author...


By Emily on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 6:45 am:

Well, that explains EVERYTHING. Keith Topping, for god's sake. The man who thinks it's cool to open books with a paragraph's worth of rape metaphors.


By Emily on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 9:16 am:

Besides, if we were thinking about which Doctors and which Companions would be most likely to...er...indulge in such activities (a subject which the new series has finally enabled me to face without shrieking, mainly because Eccleston is so utterly totally perfect he can do anything he likes EXCEPT LEAVE and I won't mind)...anyway, if one WAS considering such a topic, the Fifth Doctor and Tegan would be fairly low down on the list. She's the only Companion I can think of who the Doctor deliberately abandoned without so much as a goodbye - and don't tell me he dropped her off at Heathrow and scarpered to avoid temptation...


By Chris Thomas on Friday, October 07, 2005 - 12:10 am:

Maybe he left her at Heathrow because of a lovers' tiff?


By Emily on Friday, October 07, 2005 - 9:39 am:

Hah. The Davison era does have a tendancy for one story to run into the next, mercifully ensuring that the Doctor has no off-screen time to take lovers OR have tiffs with them. Hell, most of the time the crew haven't even got time to change their clothes...


By Chris Thomas on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 2:50 am:

I wonder why the Fifth Doctor was able to see in Nyssa's room.... and how do you know they haven't got lots of sets of the same outfits?


By Frobisher The Paranoid, But on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 8:39 pm:

Re:Doctor/Companion's clothing
Hmmmm....
Gary Russell's novel Divided Loyalties did touch on this question, & Tegan in said story, believed that there was some type of automatic clothing cleaning/repair subsystem in the Tardis, which did the job when everyone was asleep....
Given Nyssa's "Bullet Magnet" status in Whofic, I suspect there's a "Modify/Upgrade her clothing to incorporate concealed Body Armour" subroutine, that's been activated, by either the Doctor or the Tardis...


By Kevin on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 3:59 am:

The subtitles on the DVD for The Five Doctors have this character's name as 'Tegan Travanka.' Out of curiosity, I ran that through Google. It produced nothing.

(Perhaps one day in the future, someone will read this, type it into google or some other search engine, and get this page. Hello to them.)


By markvthomas on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 1:00 am:

Re:Chief Sharkie's Sept 20 2005 comment...
It seems that said adventure is set in the present day for Tegan, but when exactly is it set, post Ressurection of the Daleks from the viewpoint of the 5th Doctor...?


By Mark V Thomas on Friday, October 27, 2006 - 9:01 pm:

Re: My Last comment
It's set during the events of The Veiled Leopard....
As for Tegan, a sad way to go....


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 10:31 pm:

I tend to divide Tegan into two eras, there is the pre and post Visitation Tegan.

The pre Visitation Tegan is the one I can't stand, the whiny who is always bleating about getting back to Heathrow. She is on the greatest adventure of her life, and all she can do is moan about getting back home. You just wanted to chuck her out the nearest airlock and be done with it. Let's not even talk about that little stunt she pulled in Four To Doomsday. The Doctor sure is a forgiving fellow.

Post Visitation Tegan is better. She has settled down and decided to stay on the TARDIS. I liked this Tegen better, she even showed some guts in Earthshock when she did a Rambo on some Cybermen. That is the Tegan they should have had all along.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 4:44 am:

I tend to divide Tegan into two eras, there is the pre and post Visitation Tegan.

Fair enough, though she's still a whiny ***** DURING Visitation too, don't forget.

She is on the greatest adventure of her life, and all she can do is moan about getting back home. You just wanted to chuck her out the nearest airlock and be done with it.

Hear, hear. What was it that made Tegan so desperate to get home, anyway? It can't have been her relatives - she never gives her parents a second thought, aunt Vanessa is, er, no longer with us, and she can't possibly have been THAT frantic to go see her old granddad. (Let's face it...he's no Wilf.) So it must have been her job, but WHY? What made her so obsessed with air-hostessing? It can't have been serving meals and smiling prettily all the time, so it MUST have been the travel. And - hello! - the TARDIS is certainly supplying a lot of THAT.

Post Visitation Tegan is better. She has settled down and decided to stay on the TARDIS.

Yes, but what's really infuriating is that we don't SEE that moment of revelation/transformation. It mysteriously occurs in the two minutes between the end of The Visitation and the start of Black Orchid. Weird...


By Amanda Gordon (Mandy) on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 9:48 am:

She is on the greatest adventure of her life, and all she can do is moan about getting back home.

Well, let's see. A rather young and inexerienced woman sees her aunt murdered, is kidnapped by aliens, then routinely placed in dangerous situations. And she wants to go home? Unbelievable. If only she'd seen Dr Who.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 10:20 pm:

Well, Nyssa saw her whole planet destroyed, and SHE didn't whine, moan, and bleat all the time.

Tegan's moaning and whining just god old REALLY fast. I never much cared for those companions that whined all the time.

As I said, when Tegan settled down, I didn't mind her anymore. It was only the early episodes that she got on my nerves.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 10:22 pm:

The word "god" in the post above should be "got".

D'OH!!!


By Rodney Hrvatin (Rhrvatin) on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 3:25 am:

yeah- we god it!


By Mike Konczewski (Mkonczewski) on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 8:36 am:

I god a code in by dode.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 10:26 pm:

Yes, but what's really infuriating is that we don't SEE that moment of revelation/transformation. It mysteriously occurs in the two minutes between the end of The Visitation and the start of Black Orchid. Weird...


Well, there are some interesting Fan Fics that tackle this question :-)


By Mark V Thomas (Frobisher) on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 11:23 pm:

Re: Tim's last post
Unfortunately, none of those fanfic stories feature the Polymorph from Red Dwarf in the TARDIS, which given it's Modus Operandi of emotionally draining it's victims of various emotions, would be amusing to have seen Tegan undergoing said personality altering attack by said GELF (unless Tim knows one that does ?)...
Or, has the Polymorph already removed Nyssa's sense of Grief in a previous attack...?
If this is indeed the case, did Adric's ego give it indegestion, before it removed his arrogance, one must ask...?


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 12:03 am:

The logical explanation is that something happened between the two stories.

Maybe Nyssa and Tegan had a lesbian tryst and Tegan found Nyssa better than any guy she'd been with before.

Heck, if Mark can come up with an explantion, so can I :-)


By Mark V Thomas (Frobisher) on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 7:28 pm:

Re: Tim's last post...
If you ever had read a certain Fanfic story called Interlude On Castrovalva, written by a author called Avalon, that particular (hypothetical ?) event happened before the events of The Visitation...
As for the "Polymorph in the Tardis" theory, this was essentally the 2nd "Kill Romana" story synopsis, later rejected by Eric Saward, that Christopher Priest submitted to the BBC, after his original synopsis, Sealed Orders was rejected for costing far too much...
This Story is briefly & indirectly mentioned in Castrovalva, in that the Doctor thinks there's something in the Tardis, that is possibly draining power from it, but then he blacks out & suffers a loss of memory concerning it


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 8:58 pm:

I've never heard of the story you mentioned, Mark, but I have dabbled in some Nyssa/Tegan Femslash myself.


http://www.whofic.com/viewuser.php?uid=173


By Mark V Thomas (Frobisher) on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 4:43 pm:

Re: Last post
Out of curiosity, what exactly did happen to Convergence, Tim...?
It seems to have disappeared from your account on Teaspoon...
(As for other sites dealing in this sort of thing, there is a listing on LiveJournal titled "Yes, Jamie, it is a big one...", dealing with Dr Who slash fic, that you might want to have a look at. On said listing, there are the beginnings of a "Mistress Nyssa"/Tegan story arc delevoping, in the form of the stories, Trakenite Mating Rituals, & Restitution...).


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 12:38 am:

I removed Convergence because I wanted to retool it, namely putting in the Doctor and removing the Kim Possible characters. However, real life got in the way and it kind of got lost in the shuffle :-)


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 2:57 pm:

Fighting for Aborigine rights, eh? That actually makes a lot of sense. What with her speaking the lingo, and all...She must ALWAYS have cared deeply about this issue. It just, well, didn't come across very well on screen.

And take THAT, you stupid Lidster she's-dying-of-a-brain-tumour audio!


By Mark V Thomas (Frobisher) on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 9:55 pm:

"Pay The Rent...!" - Tegan Jovanka speaking at a Brisbane rally for Aboriginal rights...
If Tegan is alive, then Austrailian politics are about to become somewhat interesting, if not more lively...


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 10:47 pm:

And take THAT, you stupid Lidster she's-dying-of-a-brain-tumour audio!

Perhaps one of Harry Sullivan's miracle cures at work here.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Monday, November 01, 2010 - 4:12 pm:

The Doctor offered to whisk Tegan off for a miracle cure but she turned him down for no readily apparent reason. Rather like Evelyn refused to mention her potentially fatal heart-condition to the Doctor. You'd think advanaced medical care would be one of the perks of TARDIS-travel...


By Judi Jeffreys (Judibug) on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 3:12 am:

"Jovanka" is a Yugoslavian name, but Tegan <s>the Wanker</s> er, Jovanka, doesn't look the least bit Slavic.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 3:28 am:

Maybe Tegan's cancer somehow went into remission. She took that as a sign and decided to devote herself to the cause of Aboriginal rights.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 12:09 pm:

No no! For one thing, Tegan doesn't go in for Signs From Above or any of that nonsense. For another, it was a LISTER audio. Even if every other Big Finish by some miracle became canonical and entirely consistent with The Real Thing, the sick Lidster audios would forever remain beyond the pale.


By Richard Davies (Richarddavies) on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 1:46 pm:

One of the Missing Adventures mentions that Tegan had a Serbian paternal grandfather, who told her vampire stories.


By John E. Porteous (Jep) on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 6:59 pm:

Hey-before you can convince me she has brain cancer--you have to convince me she has a brain.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 12:19 pm:

Ouch.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 6:00 pm:

A while back, Mark wrote:

Out of curiosity, what exactly did happen to Convergence, Tim...?
It seems to have disappeared from your account on Teaspoon


To which I replied:

I removed Convergence because I wanted to retool it, namely putting in the Doctor and removing the Kim Possible characters. However, real life got in the way and it kind of got lost in the shuffle

Well, Convergence finally lives again. However, it is no longer a Doctor Who story, but now a Rex and Hannah one. If you're interested, here is a link to it.

http://charmedsons.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fanfiction&action=display&thread=498


By Mark V Thomas (Frobisher) on Friday, April 01, 2011 - 1:44 pm:

Re:last post
Thanks, Tim...


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 6:20 pm:

The above link to Convergence is now dead. Use this one:


http://casahalliwell.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fiction&action=display&thread=76


By Lolita Bradbury (Lolita_bradbury) on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 9:01 am:

When I think of Tegan's last name I always think of scantily clad "sponsorozhde" - "Sponsor girls". Bar/party girls in Serbia, sort of.

Hey, according to Suvorov, you could get _gymnasts_ if you were in the Politburo. Um, if you wanted to.


By Melanie Lauren Fullerton (Melanie_lauren_fullerton) on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 5:46 pm:

Sad news that Janet Fielding has cancer. I'm sure she has all our best wishes as she fights her way through it.


By Rodney Hrvatin (Rhrvatin) on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 10:35 pm:

Brave heart, Janet!


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 12:01 am:

My thoughts go out to Janet at this time. I hope she beats this horrible thing.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 3:03 am:

God, yes. Especially now she's started doing Who again.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 11:08 am:

Any updates on her condition?


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Thursday, December 06, 2012 - 9:24 am:

Does the Doctor even LIKE Tegan?

DOCTOR: It'll be nice to see the TARDIS again.
NYSSA: And Tegan.
DOCTOR: Weeeeell...

Plus he had a DISTINCTLY unhappy look on his face when she joined up again in Arc of Infinity. And don't think I've forgotten how he dumped her at Heathrow and scarpered without so much as a goodbye.

Yet somehow by Resurrection he's seriously upset that Tegan's walking out on him.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 4:58 am:

So Janet Fielding'll do a Big Finish 'when hell freezes over'? (DWM interview.) I've listened to TEN of hers so far...

Bloody hell. SHE started Mirrorgate? SHE shopped her husband for arms-dealing to Iran and links with the Israeli intelligence services?? That's...really impressive.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 2:57 pm:

Emily, this is one of the reasons I wondered why you bother with ancient magazines, because the information within is years (sometimes even a decade or more) out of date. Such as the case here, Ms. Fielding clearly changed her mind in the years since she gave that interview.

Speaking of Ms. Fielding, has there been any updates on to how she is doing? God knows we've lost enough Companions to cancer these past fews years (Lis Sladen, Carolyn John, Mary Tamm), we don't want to lose any more.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 4:01 pm:

Emily, this is one of the reasons I wondered why you bother with ancient magazines, because the information within is years (sometimes even a decade or more) out of date.

When Who streches back Fifty Glorious Years, a mere decade out of date is NOTHING...

Such as the case here, Ms. Fielding clearly changed her mind in the years since she gave that interview.

And no doubt one of these magazines you scorn will eventually enlighten me as to WHY said change of mind occurred...

Speaking of Ms. Fielding, has there been any updates on to how she is doing?

Not unless you count 'Not Dead Yet'...


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 1:22 am:

Not unless you count 'Not Dead Yet'...

I guess that's good news..


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 7:47 am:

Logopolis:

Tegan FORGOT HER PASSPORT? How stupid IS she?!

AND her bag?

AND left the front door open??

'I promise I'll get organised one day' - would an airline really BUY that line? Wouldn't someone so catastrophically incompetent leave the aeroplane doors open or something? (Is THAT why she gets sacked pre-Arc?) And why wasn't she quite this...well...SENILE in subsequent stories?

'Cars! I hate 'em!' - since when?

How DARE Tegan assume the TARDIS pilot is MALE? (He's gonna regenerate into a woman ANY DECADE NOW, I tell you...)

That's one BLOODY good Australian educational system. Never mind her Aborigine-language skills, Tegan knows that 'Pharos' is ancient Greek for 'lighthouse'!

'Leave it to me' - Tegan strides purposefully off to show the miniature Doctor the calculations that will save him. Pausing only to watch Adric and Nyssa squabble for a while.

Why does Tegan think THE DOCTOR is 'my ticket back to the airport' and 'the only insurance policy I've got' rather than the Doctor's time machine, which is currently being flown by someone, frankly, rather better than the Doctor at this particular skill?


By Kate Halprin (Kitten) on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 12:11 pm:

"That's one BLOODY good Australian educational system. Never mind her Aborigine-language skills, Tegan knows that 'Pharos' is ancient Greek for 'lighthouse'!"

It can't be that great a system, because Pharos *doesn't* mean lighthouse. It's the name of the island on which the seven-wonders-of-the-world-lighthouse was built.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 12:24 pm:

Oh.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 2:31 pm:

Actually, you are both right. The lighthouse on Pharos island became the prototype for all such buildings, and the island's name became the greek word for lighthouse.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, June 15, 2013 - 12:03 am:

I hope Janet is doing better. Any more news on her condition?


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Sunday, August 04, 2013 - 2:56 am:

She looks fine in her latest photo (see: Audios: General Discussion).


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 - 11:58 pm:

That's good to know.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 5:38 am:

'When Janet Fielding joined as Tegan, [JNT] even commissioned a West End hairdresser to create an expensive style for her, in the hope that it would instigate a fashion and become a talking point for the female audience. Sadly, the result turned out to be more of a "hair don't". (Fielding likened it to having a dead rat stuck on the back of her head.)' - JNT biography. Oh, I don't know - just look at Tegan in A Fix With Sontarans to realise how infinitely worse things COULD have been...


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, December 20, 2013 - 5:21 am:

I guess Janet has beaten the cancer. Good, it's claimed enough former Companions these past few years.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Friday, December 20, 2013 - 1:23 pm:

Hear, hear. Except there's no such thing as a FORMER Companion any more, is there? Some NA or other once prophetically remarked 'it's a contract for life, written in blood' and hey presto, the most reluctant of supposedly ex-Companions (viz, Tegan and Adric) have crawled out of the woodwork to do Big Finishes...


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 5:32 am:

Janet also cameod in the Five-ish Doctors. She says "They don't want you, Pete." At the end of Peter Davison's dream.


By Judi Jeffreys (Jjeffreys_mod) on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 6:46 am:

we still want Dodo. Though Jackie does have a voice that sounds like Lucile Ball - in both cases its because they smoked for years.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 5:18 am:

Though Jackie does have a voice that sounds like Lucile Ball

Doctor, I want to go home. Wahhhhhhhhhhh....


By Judi Jeffreys (Judibug) on Tuesday, February 04, 2014 - 2:10 am:

(What if they'd made Tegan Russian instead of Australian)

"Adric, darlihink, whoski is ziz Doctoriski person? I vant to go backski to
home-country Moscow Airport to keep killing Moose and Squirrell..."


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Tuesday, February 04, 2014 - 8:41 am:

The Mouth On Legs would never have SURVIVED Soviet Russia...


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 3:00 am:

Of course, Emily is probably completely clueless about Judi's reference to the Moose and Squirrel.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_and_Bullwinkle


By Kate Halprin (Kitten) on Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 5:11 am:

The Mouth On Legs would never have SURVIVED Soviet Russia...

Though she might have been comfortable in Tito's Yugoslavia.


By Judi Jeffreys (Jjeffreys_mod) on Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 7:55 am:

Yes. She could have been a party girl. Apparently you could get _gymnasts_ if you were in the Politburo. Um, if you wanted to.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, February 06, 2014 - 3:55 am:

Though she might have been comfortable in Tito's Yugoslavia.

Little inside joke. Tegan's last name, Jovanka, was the name of Tito's widow.


By Judi Jeffreys (Judibug) on Thursday, February 06, 2014 - 4:40 am:

Davo-Doc: Hey Tegan, say "Yugoslavia"

Tegan: U-Goh-Slah-Vea

Davo-Doc: Nyssa, here's a sixpence. Kill Tegan


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 3:30 am:

Judi, what's with all these silly posts you've been making lately?

Just curious.


By Judi Jeffreys (Judibug) on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 4:26 am:

Just bringing a bit of brightness to a sorrowful world.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, February 25, 2014 - 6:18 am:

That's okay, Judi. As I said, I was just curious :-)


By Melanie Lauren Fullerton (Melanie_lauren_fullerton) on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 4:02 pm:

AUNTIE VANESSA in Logopolis:
"Your father's farm is hardly the Outback, my dear


And yet other stories say that Tegan comes from the suburbs of Brisbane.

Either she's a country girl from outback Queensland or she's a suburban girl from QLD's capital, Brisbane.

Which is it?


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 5:10 am:

Maybe her parents split up and her dad bought that farm in the Outback, while Tegan stayed with her mom in Brisbane.


By Melanie Lauren Fullerton (Melanie_lauren_fullerton) on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 5:45 am:

Thanks.
For our non-Australian friends - QLD is the postal abbreviation for Queensland.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 3:53 am:

I wonder how Tegan explained her months long absence after Resurrection Of The Daleks?


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 7:14 am:

Who would she have to explain it to? She'd been sacked from her job, her aunt's dead, her parents are either dead or might as well be given the amount of thought she ever gives 'em, and her granddad and cousin obviously know she's been up to weird alien stuff with a time-traveller.


By Graham Nealon (Graham) on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 9:19 pm:

Brisbane's not that big and a number of the outer suburbs even today are still semi-rural. So you can still have a farm and be not too far from the city. Although Brisbane is - still - basically a large country town that just happens to have some tall buildings.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 3:25 am:

Could be, I suppose.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 5:51 am:

Well as she was probably last seen in Amsterdam and people probably figured she got hooked on drugs then worked as a prostitute to earn money. On the plus side if she ever mentions her adventures people will probably figure it was just something from a drug high. ;-)


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 5:21 am:

Unless she meets someone from UNIT or Torchwood.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 2:51 pm:

Come to think of it, Tegan's Heathrow/Amsterdam/Pharos Project exploits SHOULD have been enough for her to gain some Torchwoody attention (assuming they're a remotely competent organisation which, obviously, is not the case).

I rather like the thought of Captain Jack interviewing/shagging his way through every ex-Companion dumped in the twentieth century...


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, May 08, 2014 - 3:55 am:

Let me guess, Captain Jack would shag BOTH the female and male Companions (or try to), since he clearly swings both ways.


By Finn Clark (Finnclark) on Friday, July 11, 2014 - 9:56 am:

what about Resurrection of the Daleks where Tegan looks like a Yugoslavian hooker?


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, October 21, 2014 - 6:00 am:

She actually first dressed that way in Frontios.

Would Captain Jack go for her, or for Turlough? I guess it depends on what mood he was in (as long as he keeps his grubby paws off Nyssa, I don't care either way).


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Tuesday, October 21, 2014 - 11:38 am:

He would, of course, go for both.

Donna Noble is, thus far, the only person in the universe he hasn't been attracted to.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, March 31, 2015 - 5:25 am:

Why did they dress Tegan up like a prostitute?


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Friday, May 22, 2015 - 3:40 pm:

'Neither Tegan's cousin nor her grandfather cared enough to even enquire in passing exactly why she and Auntie Vanessa had disappeared on the same day' - DWM. Good point. You'd think when Tegan suddenly REappeared they (and/or the police) would be a bit suspicious about the circumstances in which Dear Old Auntie was Never Seen Again. Tegan's got a nasty temper, after all...


By Chris Marks (Chris_marks) on Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - 8:51 am:

Well, chances are the police would have interviewed her after she was left behind in Heathrow at the end of Time-Flight, and the moment Tegan says the words "The Master", either UNIT or Torchwood will be taking over the interview before anyone knows what's happening.

Once that's happened, they can come up with pretty much any story they like (maybe some random killer), make it official, maybe throw in that Tegan's suffering PTSD or something similar, then give that to Tegan's relatives, so by the time of Arc of Infinity (a year in Tegan's personal time after Time-Flight), they already know and have talked with her about it as much as they can.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - 12:25 pm:

the moment Tegan says the words "The Master", either UNIT or Torchwood will be taking over the interview before anyone knows what's happening

Torchwood are a bunch of half-witted maniacs who don't even notice THE DOCTOR - the raison d'etre of their very existence! - working for UNIT for SEVERAL YEARS.

And the Brig is suffering from amnesia as his gormless replacements totally fail to realise there IS such a thing as a Doctor.

And if neither organisation is capable of grasping the concept of DOCTOR, they sure as hell aren't when it comes to MASTER either.

*Suddenly starts picturing an octogenarian Bill Filer shuffling to Tegan's rescue...*


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, June 02, 2015 - 5:12 am:

How long was it for Tegan between Time Flight and Arc Of Infinity. They never revealed that.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Tuesday, June 02, 2015 - 11:36 am:

Long enough for her to get a haircut. :-)

She said she was 'sacked', but that could be because she never showed up for work (she was busy traversing time and space), or may be she just wasn't good at it.
If it's the second choice, I'd give her about two weeks of being a lousy employee and having her job terminated, if we take into account attempts to make her improve her work ethic or service or whatever.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Wednesday, June 03, 2015 - 4:24 am:

They might have whipped out a measuring-tape on day one and discovered she'd lied about meeting the height requirement...


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Wednesday, June 03, 2015 - 4:35 am:

Having watched her in the TARDIS I can easily see her being a lousy employee and getting fired. ;-)

Post-Time Flight she was less annoying, no doubt growing up a bit after being fired.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, June 03, 2015 - 5:36 am:

Don't Flight Attendants have to go through some kind of training program before being hired?


By Judibug (Judibug) on Thursday, October 15, 2015 - 12:35 am:

*laughs* White supporters of Aboriginal rights - Tegan's colleagues according to the SJA - have been caught having fabricated a supposed "racist" historical document in order to bolster support for their cause.

Disgusting.

Enough horrific things happened to Australia's Aboriginal people without resorting to making stuff up.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Thursday, October 15, 2015 - 3:49 am:

Yeah, YOU'D THINK. Poor old Tegan (assuming this also happened in the Whoniverse). Ironic, given that Janet Fielding cares so much for the truth she actually shopped her husband for arms-dealing to Iran and links with the Israeli intelligence services.


By Jjeffreys_mod (Jjeffreys_mod) on Saturday, August 20, 2016 - 7:23 am:

A lack of respect toward the Doctor shown by the companion makes it hard as audience members to respect him either if he's just presented as a punch bag. The fifth Doctor as written, is an idiot. That doesn't make Tegan smart. Only slightly smarter than him.

I mean Tegan is someone who apparently missed an entire school education on the Dinosaurs and what likely caused their extinction, just so the Doctor can explain it to her in Earthshock.

And who in The Visitation, throws such a wobbly so quickly over being landed on the wrong date that she seemingly forgets she's in a time machine, and the Doctor can probably reset the date right in a few seconds if she stops hounding him a moment.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Saturday, August 20, 2016 - 7:38 am:

The fifth Doctor as written, is an idiot.

He's not an IDIOT, he just...doesn't have any authority in his voice.

Which means that, even after a third of a centry to get used to the idea, it's STILL virtually impossible to accept Davison as a True Doctor. (Of course, the lack of a sense of humour doesn't exactly help either.)

I mean Tegan is someone who apparently missed an entire school education on the Dinosaurs and what likely caused their extinction, just so the Doctor can explain it to her in Earthshock.

Actually I've just checked the script and it's the Doctor AND Tegan explaining dinosaurs to Nyssa, which is fair enough. Tegan actually knows all about brains the size of peas and asteroids and stuff. She oompares very well to UNIT who, after weeks of fighting dinosaurs, apparently required Pertwee to explain to them that 'Er, a pato-something' is actually 'commonly known as the brontosaurus. Large, placid and stupid.'

And who in The Visitation, throws such a wobbly so quickly over being landed on the wrong date that she seemingly forgets she's in a time machine, and the Doctor can probably reset the date right in a few seconds if she stops hounding him a moment.

Let's face it...he probably can't.


By Jjeffreys_mod (Jjeffreys_mod) on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 4:47 pm:

At a Sydney convention, Janet Fielding did annoy event organisers by revealing all sorts of juicy gossip BEFORE being interviewed, and then as it was about to start, saying she would not talk about any of that in public!!! And she was very grasping about her "rights" if there seemed to be a photo misused ... how to rub people up the wrong way - they were not stealing food off her table!


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 3:56 am:

They should just be grateful she shared the juicy gossip with them at all (and there's nothing to stop 'em sharing it with us. Online. Right now). Actually, they should just be grateful she turned up at all, remember the days when Janet Fielding wanted nothing to do with Who and made sure - as his agent - that McGann didn't either?


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Monday, December 12, 2016 - 5:31 am:

I hope she's beaten the cancer she was battling.

Any further news on that?


By Jjeffreys_mod (Jjeffreys_mod) on Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 3:38 am:

While we may criticise Waterhouse’s acting abilities, Fielding really isn’t much better. When it comes to performance, Fielding has far more in common with Waterhouse than she does her other contemporaries.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 2:43 pm:

Actually I've never had much trouble with Adric or Tegan's performances so much as their actual characters.

A problem, frankly, that they share with their other contemporaries.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, January 06, 2017 - 5:20 am:

If only the Classic Companions could have gotten the character development the NuWho Companions got.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Friday, January 06, 2017 - 1:36 pm:

Well, they tried with Ace (talk about leaving things till the last minute) but the results were...mixed.


By Kate Halprin (Kitten) on Friday, January 06, 2017 - 3:45 pm:

The companion who gets the most development in the whole of 'Doctor Who' is Jo Grant. The characters who are most bigged-up as masterpieces of characterisation by their production teams/creators - Ace, Rose, Clara, this means you - are the ones who barely resemble human beings, let along psychologically credible ones.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Friday, January 06, 2017 - 4:02 pm:

What development did JO ever get!

And don't you diss our Rose!


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Thursday, January 19, 2017 - 9:02 am:

Davison recounting a certain incident in his autobiography:

'It's my contention that if a bloke asks a girl who's wearing a boob tube, to reach as far as she can above her head, most sensible girls of a modest nature would decline...But Janet, being Janet, reached as far above her head as she could, without giving the slightest consideration as to the consequences...The inevitable happened. Worse than that, the inevitable happened at the precise moment the camera crew appeared...After allowing the events to set clearly in my mind, I adopted the modus operandi of my Doctor and ran away.'


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 5:07 am:

Is that the incident in Amsterdam, where Janet Fielding got mistaken for a hooker?


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 6:14 am:

Nope, that was a completely DIFFERENT incident.

Poor Janet.


By Jjeffreys_mod (Jjeffreys_mod) on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 6:17 am:

Well, what was she doing in the red-light district?


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 11:21 am:

'We stayed in a hotel not far from the red-light district and on our very first night we all went for a walk around the area. Janet dressed up for the occasion and while she looked very pretty...it did leave her open to certain misunderstandings. I looked around at one point and saw her with two men and smiling in some confusion as she tried and failed to understand what was happening.'


By Kate Halprin (Kitten) on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 11:49 am:

This would tell us a lot about JN-T's grasp of fashion, if the sixth Doctor's coat hadn't said it all already.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 2:18 pm:

JN-T had a perfect grasp of fashion, that's why he selected that coat. He wanted the sixth Doctor to be tasteless and it was the most tasteless thing he could come up with.


By Judibug (Judibug) on Thursday, March 02, 2017 - 6:05 pm:

I'd love to see Tegan as played by Dame Edna Everage...


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Friday, March 03, 2017 - 4:36 am:

Why?


By Judibug (Judibug) on Saturday, March 04, 2017 - 2:11 am:

There was a Dame Edna Everage themed ice cream here in Oz recently and having a drag queen like Dame Edna as a companion could hardly be worse than what we got with Janet Fielding.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Saturday, March 04, 2017 - 5:39 am:

I've nothing against a comedy drag queen as Companion - it would make a change and gods know we need a change from feisty pretty young modern-day British women with crushes on the Doctor - but there's no need to drag slagging-off-Tegan into it. Say what you like about the Mouth on Legs, she had more character than everyone else in the TARDIS with her put together.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Saturday, March 04, 2017 - 8:23 am:

...and gods know we need a change from feisty pretty young modern-day British women with crushes on the Doctor...

One word, Nardole.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Saturday, March 04, 2017 - 9:16 am:

Yeah, but Nardole's not a Companion-with-a-capital-C, he's just the useless* disposable third wheel in the corner like Mickey-the-Idiot or Harry-Sullivan-the-Imbecile or Rory-who-even-after-2,000-years-as-the-heroic-Lone-Centurion-STILL-didn't-get-the-Doctor-yelling-after-HIM-when-he-jumped-off-a-really-tall-building.

*OK, surprisingly useful but he still FEELS useless.


By Kate Halprin (Kitten) on Monday, March 06, 2017 - 12:06 pm:

Dame Edna isn't a drag queen, she's a female character played by a male comedian.


By Jjeffreys_mod (Jjeffreys_mod) on Thursday, April 20, 2017 - 4:51 am:

Tegan Jovanka's family is very confusing anyway. Her granddad Andrew Verney seems to be English, though she doesn't seem to bother to visit him until she travels in the TARDIS, despite starting a job in England and staying with her Australian Auntie in the Meglos writers' house...


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Thursday, April 20, 2017 - 8:26 am:

What makes you think she didn't visit him? (My memories of Awakening are vague, though frankly not as vague as I'd LIKE.)


By Kevin (Kevin) on Friday, April 21, 2017 - 3:31 am:

I watched The Awakening this week, and my memories of it are pretty vague too.

Verney recognized her right away, so he certainly knew her as an adult. In fact, while there's no textual evidence that he was expecting her, his reaction was almost as if he were, which only makes sense if we assume (as we probably must) that Turlough told him.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Wednesday, May 03, 2017 - 6:32 am:

'Dame Edna isn't a drag queen, she's a female character played by a male comedian.'

You literally just used the same definition that dictionary.com uses for 'drag queen';

'noun Slang. a male transvestite, especially a performer who dresses as a woman to entertain the public.
and
'British Dictionary definitions for drag queen
noun 1. a male who dresses as a woman and impersonates female characteristics for public entertainment.'

And before you get all politically-correct with me, I think Dame Edna's hilarious. I used to watch that show of hers that had her and her friend go into other people's houses.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Wednesday, May 03, 2017 - 3:34 pm:

That's what I get for posting without reading the context.
Of course, Dame Edna is not a drag queen. She's a character played by Barry Humphries, so Humphries would technically be the 'drag queen'.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, October 20, 2017 - 5:07 am:

Once you get to Black Orchid, Tegan becomes a much better character, IMO.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Friday, October 20, 2017 - 12:10 pm:

I dunno if ability to dance the Charleston actually equates to character development...


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, October 21, 2017 - 5:17 am:

Better than leaving her friends to die while she steals the TARDIS in Four To Doomsday.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Saturday, October 21, 2017 - 5:49 am:

It's Classic Who, that's the closest thing they've got. ;-)

Although one could argue that becoming LESS annoying could actually be character development.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Saturday, October 21, 2017 - 5:51 am:

I was referring to Emily's comment as Tim's wasn't showing when I posted.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Saturday, October 21, 2017 - 9:57 am:

Better than leaving her friends to die while she steals the TARDIS in Four To Doomsday.

Hey, she was just trying to save Earth! (Leaving the Doctor, Nyssa and Adric to die was just a side-effect and after all, they weren't her FRIENDS then (or, in Adric's case, ever).) Of course WE know she should have just sat tight and trusted Our Hero to deal with it, but look at it from her point of view - first there's some curly-haired loon who shrinks, wipes out half the galaxy, and falls off radio telescopes, then there's some bland cricket-lover who spends Castrovalva snoozing in a box, then there's the pointless tedium of Four to Doomsday, whereupon she snaps.

It's Classic Who, that's the closest thing they've got. ;-)

Ah, nonsense, look at Hartnell who evolved from murderer to moral crusader, albeit for no readily apparent reason.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, October 22, 2017 - 5:12 am:

Still, I would have booted her out the nearest airlock had she pulled that stunt with me.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Sunday, October 22, 2017 - 6:36 am:

To be fair, the Doc DID spend several stories desperately attempting to get her home so he COULD boot her out the nearest airlock (whilst pretending that it was all her idea, at least until Timeflight REALLY blew his cover)...


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 5:11 am:

Tegan was unique in that she was the first Companion to come back after leaving. Up to that point, that didn't happen in Doctor Who.

Of course, NuWho does this all the time now (although the practice has declined since RTD left). However, on Classic Who, when a Companion was gone, they were gone for good.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 1:15 pm:

Of course, NuWho does this all the time now (although the practice has declined since RTD left).

Oh, RTG's Companions are NOTHING in the stop-start department compared to The Moff's. HE didn't have a single Companion who DIDN'T leave and come back on an almost weekly basis...

However, on Classic Who, when a Companion was gone, they were gone for good.

Unless they were the Brig. Or it was a multi-Doctor special.


By Kate Halprin (Kitten) on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 2:55 pm:

Tegan was unique in that she was the first Companion to come back after leaving. Up to that point, that didn't happen in Doctor Who.

*cough* Harry Sullivan *cough*


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 2:57 pm:

Of course, I too forgot darling Harry, probably because his return was such a damp squib.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 5:07 am:

Yes, but Tegan left at the end of a season. When that happened in the past (in the case of Jo Grant and Leela) that was the last we saw of those Companions.

**the Audios don't count because, at this point, they did not yet exist**


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 12:36 pm:

Yes, but Tegan left at the end of a season. When that happened in the past (in the case of Jo Grant and Leela) that was the last we saw of those Companions.

The HELL it was!

Just watch SJA: Death of the Doctor!

(Obviously even I'm not gonna stoop low enough to tell you to watch Dimensions in Time...)


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 - 5:08 am:

Let me rephrase:

Yes, but Tegan left at the end of a season. When that happened in the past (in the case of Jo Grant and Leela) that was the last we saw of those Companions. At least in the run of the original series.


By John E. Porteous (Jep) on Sunday, October 28, 2018 - 10:55 pm:

On the other hand both Zoe and Jamie both showed up again after leaving at the end of a season(and being mindwiped to forget the Doctor).

So it's not a set rule.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, November 28, 2018 - 5:21 am:

While I was at the bookstore yesterday, I saw that one of their employees (in her early 20's) was named Tegan. So, I had to ask.

Nope, she's not named after Tegan Jovanka.


By Judibug (Judibug) on Wednesday, November 28, 2018 - 3:00 pm:

You could tell she was in her early 20s and you still asked that?


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, December 02, 2018 - 5:30 am:

Yes, because I figured that one of her parents might have been a fan.

Of course, that wasn't the case, but there was no harm in asking, and she didn't mind anyway. No harm done.


By Judi Jeffreys (Jjeffreys_mod) on Friday, March 08, 2019 - 5:45 am:


quote:

Tegan is at her best in Frontios. The bolshiness is played for laughs, or proper moral outrage, and she's otherwise proactive -going to get the battery, etc. - and willing to do what's asked of her, as long as it's the Doctor who asks of course. It's a shame Bidmead's version of her wasn't the one they stuck with. He's the one who has her objecting to the sweatshop conditions on Logopolis and proudly taking on the co-ordinator role in Castrovalva. I don't think Saward's apparently depressed worldview was suited to a show about a kindly hero and his brave, loyal friends exploring the universe together.



By Emily Carter (Emily) on Friday, March 08, 2019 - 7:14 am:

she's otherwise proactive -going to get the battery, etc.

And that's the problem with Tegan being proactive IN FRONTIOS. It entails spending several hours fetching a battery. That's then never used.

Maybe SHE should have been the one foaming at the mouth with Tractator-race-memories? No one would have batted an eyelid at the thought of them invading Earth whereas it seems like a whopping big coincidence when it's Turlough's (unnamed!) world.

(Yeah, I KNOW I'm always whinging about it being Earth Earth bloody Earth all the time and should be grateful when the aliens go after Trion or Tivoli for a change, but somehow I'm...not.)


By Judi Jeffreys (Jjeffreys_mod) on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 10:51 am:

I LEARNED THE WORD SOOK HERE, LOOK IT UP, IT'S TEGAN IN SEASON 19
SOOK, SOOK, SOOK
Crybaby


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 5:31 am:

Whoopty freakin doo!

And there is no need for All Caps, it's the Internet equal of shouting, and there is no need to shout.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 6:21 am:

Crybaby, maybe, because of the Heathrow stuff, but timid or cowardly? That's definitely not The Mouth On Legs.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, August 02, 2019 - 5:38 am:

She did go all Rambo on those Cybermen, after all.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Friday, August 02, 2019 - 5:50 am:

But weirdly felt the need to strip some archaeologist of her sweaty overalls in order to do so.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, August 02, 2019 - 5:54 am:

No doubt she wanted to blend in.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Wednesday, December 04, 2019 - 2:11 pm:

DWM: 'To survive the sheer trauma of losing her favourite Aunt Vanessa, murdered by the Master, as well as being the sole human witness to the near end of the universe, Tegan had to have the ability to distance herself from her surroundings' - um, that's one of way of looking at it I suppose, I'm not entirely convinced mind you...


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, December 08, 2019 - 5:03 am:

As I recall, the magazine called Tegan "A hostess with the moistest".

Of course, now they prefer to be called Flight Attendants.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Sunday, December 08, 2019 - 6:08 am:

As I recall, the magazine called Tegan "A hostess with the moistest".

That is mildly disturbing.


By Jjeffreys_mod (Jjeffreys_mod) on Sunday, December 08, 2019 - 7:18 am:

Mostest not moistest


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, December 08, 2019 - 8:13 am:

If I may borrow a comment from one of Natalie's favourite shows:

D'OH!!


By Natalie_granada_tv (Natalie_granada_tv) on Monday, February 24, 2020 - 6:49 am:

TV Tropes


quote:

Much of her characterisation is hard to interpret in any way other than her having an unrequited love for the Fifth Doctor that couldn't be explicitly stated because of the No Hugging, No Kissing rule. Apart from the fans who think that the unrequited love was for Nyssa instead.



By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Monday, February 24, 2020 - 7:54 am:

They are not mutually exclusive.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - 5:23 am:

I miss Classic Who.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - 2:19 pm:

So watch a DVD.


By Natalie_granada_tv (Natalie_granada_tv) on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - 7:38 pm:

Tegan's outfit in ROTD - she must have got that from her relatives in Belgrade who told her it was a gift from Cousin Magda, but decided to not tell her that it was Magda's work clothes.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - 5:11 am:

If Janet Fielding had been wearing that outfit in Amsterdam, her being mistaken for a prostitute would have been understandable.


By Natalie_granada_tv (Natalie_granada_tv) on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - 1:46 pm:

Tim: you are completely correct. That outfit of Tegan's would say "sex" to any passing male... and also says "please follow me home and make love to me all night long".


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 5:12 am:

And lucky Tegan ended up with Nyssa.


By Gaia Nicolosi (Aledi_vi_sepul) on Sunday, January 09, 2022 - 3:54 am:

So, this means:

Tegan liked both Nyssa and the Doctor
Nyssa liked both Tegan and Adric
Adric liked Nyssa
Fivey didn't like any of the three.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Sunday, January 09, 2022 - 8:02 am:

Tegan liked both Nyssa and the Doctor

I dunno about that 'Doctor' part...maybe sometimes...

Nyssa liked both Tegan and Adric

Yeah, Trakkenites are just supposed to like EVERYONE, and Nyssa's about the only one who lives up to the hype.

Adric liked Nyssa

Well, not THAT much, he was prepared to ditch her in favour of returning to E-Space. And didn't seem to exclude her from the 'Everyone teases me, no one has time for me, I'm an outsider boo hoo' speech.

Fivey didn't like any of the three.

I think he liked Nyssa. Though maybe only in comparison to Tegan n'Adric n'Turlough...

Mind you, he seemed slightly devastated when Tegan left (second time round, obviously first time round he deliberately dumped her and looked devastated when she came back...)


By M Crane (Mcrane) on Sunday, January 09, 2022 - 10:05 am:

I think he liked Nyssa. Though maybe only in comparison to Tegan n'Adric n'Turlough

Possibly because he could talk complicated science with her, rather than anything more romantically/physically inclined. After all, he considered her a minor in Black Orchid (with regards to alcohol). Five strikes me as one of the more asexual Doctors.


By Gaia Nicolosi (Aledi_vi_sepul) on Sunday, January 09, 2022 - 11:28 am:

Yeah I think that the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh Doctors are the asexual ones, since it was their eras which had the "no hugging, no kissing."

And yes, Nyssa, Adric, and kind of Turlough were considered to be pretty much teenagers.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Monday, January 10, 2022 - 5:16 am:

Well, Tegan and Nyssa certainly liked each other :-)

I'm glad the two of them had a happy ending. God knows they earned it.


By Gaia Nicolosi (Aledi_vi_sepul) on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 - 5:22 am:

Yeah they did after oh so much time and tribulations.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 - 6:52 am:

Yup.


By Gaia Nicolosi (Aledi_vi_sepul) on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 - 8:57 am:

Imagine if they have their own spinoff, Nyssa and Tegan in a somewhat Art Noveau-looking house in Australia, with a Source-powered supercomputer, a Trakenite animal or Source-powered cyborg, hybrid kids together, and a few assorted friends.

Maybe Adric and Turlough come back and start dating each other.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 - 5:13 am:

A Nyssa/Tegan series would most likely be Audio. So the appearance of their house wouldn't matter.


By Gaia Nicolosi (Aledi_vi_sepul) on Thursday, January 13, 2022 - 5:39 am:

Guess so.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, January 15, 2022 - 5:36 am:

Yup.


By Matthew See (Matthew_see) on Thursday, March 10, 2022 - 2:59 am:

Saw Janet Fielding in Hammer House of Horror 1.6 Charlie Boy in which she is credited as Janet Clare Fielding.

This came on October 18 1980, mere months before her debut as Tegan in Logopolis in February-March 1981.
The Hammer House of Horror episode also featured Jeff Rawle whom Fielding later worked with in Frontios where he played Plantagenet.


tinyurl.com/2p8zvdcx


By Gaia Nicolosi (Aledi_vi_sepul) on Friday, March 11, 2022 - 7:25 am:

She looks so different!

...Tegan with Nyssa's personality?


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Monday, March 28, 2022 - 5:35 am:

Saw Janet Fielding in Hammer House of Horror 1.6 Charlie Boy in which she is credited as Janet Clare Fielding.

This must have been one of her first roles.


By Gaia Nicolosi (Aledi_vi_sepul) on Tuesday, April 05, 2022 - 3:46 am:

https://www.ncls.it/g/archives/7584

Look! It's Vegan Jovanka!


By Matthew See (Matthew_see) on Saturday, April 30, 2022 - 5:41 am:

Doctor Who facebook page have let readers know about this article about Tegan as she makes her return in the Jodie finale:
https://www.doctorwho.tv/characters/tegan-jovanka?fbclid=IwAR3UDkhpkK8TXa6ws1Ws_Au61yL7VMx8s5ICGQXnz6ab5kKdR38ChiTLBbI


By M Crane (Mcrane) on Sunday, May 01, 2022 - 4:07 am:

No mention of her wife?


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Sunday, May 01, 2022 - 11:51 am:

Also, she hardly prevented the Daleks arriving in 1980s London...


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, October 08, 2022 - 5:28 am:

How could she have?


By Gaia Nicolosi (Aledi_vi_sepul) on Saturday, October 08, 2022 - 10:29 am:

It does mention Nyssa, as "friends", which implies they're not married but also does'nt necessarily mean they're not married.

Nyssa also has Tegan in "friends" and the Terileptils as "enemies".

But in Terileptils it has both Tegan and Nyssa in "friends".

So who knows?

The ideal would be to have 4 Nyssa's, one to date Tegan, one for Adric, one for Chela, and one for Karuna. Covering all the basis. And if but only if Traken stays there... a fifth Nyssa for Luvic.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Sunday, October 09, 2022 - 4:39 am:

Also, she hardly prevented the Daleks arriving in 1980s London...

How could she have?


Gone on a rampage round the space-station with a baseball bat?

Look, I'm not BLAMING Tegan for this 'failure', I'm criticising the article for saying something inaccurate.

The ideal would be to have 4 Nyssa's, one to date Tegan, one for Adric, one for Chela, and one for Karuna. Covering all the basis. And if but only if Traken stays there... a fifth Nyssa for Luvic.

Ideal for whom? Certainly not for whichever Nyssa ended up with Adders, she (unsurprisingly) was less than keen on the idea of a wedding in The Boy That Time Forgot...


By Gaia Nicolosi (Aledi_vi_sepul) on Sunday, October 09, 2022 - 4:42 am:

Ideal for multishippers.

Also imagine the family reunions.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, October 30, 2022 - 5:26 am:

Be pretty crowded.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Friday, November 04, 2022 - 3:22 am:

Power of the Doctor:

'You said a woman. You never said young' - why should Tegan care if the Doc's young? Why is a young Doc a surprise to her, she spent most of her time travelling with one such creature, didn't she?

'Oh, Tegan Jovanka! How's your Auntie Vanessa? Do you keep her in a little doll's house?' - I am SO EVIL. I love this Master. Tegan didn't seem to react, though?

'You'd keep it so close to you because you have nothing else' - sounds like she has an INCREDIBLY full life - albeit one puzzlingly devoid of Nyssa - as the Master should well know, given all the research he must have done on her.

'I have spent the past thirty years living like a nomad. I have done land mines, coups, I have been hijacked, and I've nearly drowned trying to help people. I've seen off two husbands, and somewhere out there is an adopted son who hasn't called me for six weeks. And if that's not enough, I was an air hostess in the early '80s, and, trust me, compared to that, a building full of Cybermen is nothing.' DARLING Tegan! Odd that she seems to be following Jo's path, rather than concentrating on Aborigine rights - a la Death of the Doctor - especially when that's backed up by her bizarre language skills in Four to Doomsday...

Not much sign of guilt for however-many-UNIT-soldiers she got slaughtered/converted cos she just had to carry around her toy Cyberman.

I can't believe Tegan has a more emotional memory of FIVE than of Four! Sure, she spent infinitely more time with him but come ON, two minutes with Tom is worth a lifetime of most other Doctors...

So, er, is Tegan IMMORTAL or something? How did she survive that plunge down the lift shaft?


By Rodney Hrvatin (Rhrvatin) on Friday, November 04, 2022 - 3:52 pm:

I can't believe Tegan has a more emotional memory of FIVE than of Four! Sure, she spent infinitely more time with him but come ON, two minutes with Tom is worth a lifetime of most other Doctors...
If you heard the horror stories of her time on Logopolis with Tom you would see why she doesn't remember him.


By Emily Carter (Emily) on Friday, November 04, 2022 - 4:19 pm:

Ah.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, November 05, 2022 - 5:28 am:

What happened!?


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Saturday, November 05, 2022 - 12:16 pm:

'How did she survive that plunge down the lift shaft?'
I had a problem with that, wondering if a scene had been filmed but they forgot to add it. All I can guess is that she clung to the sides of the ladder for dear life, stepped off, and slid down as fast as she could, like a fireman on a pole, without going splat down the shaft and not regenerating.


By Matthew See (Matthew_see) on Thursday, November 23, 2023 - 11:22 pm:

Janet Fielding - My Life in a Mixtape:
www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001sfm3


Part of Radio 2's Doctor Who 60th anniversary celebrations, this is presented by Janet Fielding as she presents the music that she has experienced in her lifetime.


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