Fawn speaks with Magnus's voice when showing Magnus he has killed Scarlet.
Once again, Captain Magenta is left out of a major Spectrum operation.
Wouldn't getting a table full of knives, scalpels etc, hurt... a lot... Dr Fawn?

Na!!!He's Indestruc...

DO'H

Wrong puppet

>>Captain Magenta is left out of a major Spectrum operation<<
But doesn't he solve the Mysteron riddle?
And I don't think Dr. Fawn would have been too badly hurt - the knives etc didn't fly horizontally at him. He'd have had some cuts, but not been badly hurt.

when scarlet is in general tiempo's room with magnus and says "well not quite general, there's been a change of plan", magnus is seen mouthing along with scarlet.

It doesn't work right that Magnus has Magenta’s gun because as Blue finds him unconscious on the floor his gun is right next to him and the next thing you know Magnus has it, it might have worked if Magenta's gun wasn't in the shot then it would be possible to believe that Magnus stole Magenta's gun.

Why does Blue drop the ladder on Magnus instead of just shooting him?

>Why does Blue drop the ladder on Magnus instead of just shooting him?<
I have three possibilities
1.If Blue shot him then Magnus may have been able to shoot back.
2.The ladder could knock the gun off his hand.
3.It also block his gun so he couldn't shoot back.

Not very likely. Blue's no slouch with a gun (I suppose, he is a Spectrum agent after all) and there would be no reason for him to think that one shot wouldn't take Magnus out (see Manhunt for proof).

>>(see Manhunt for proof).<<
Blue never shot anyone in Manhunt, it was Scarlet that shot the Mechanic.

Adam, i think you failing to grasp what paul was saying

>> there would be no reason for him to think that one shot wouldn't take Magnus out (see Manhunt for proof) <<

He was stating that in 'manhunt' one bullet was enough to take out the mechanic, so it could be posible here.

He was never questioning that scarlet shot the meachanig

>>He was stating that in 'manhunt' one bullet was enough to take out the mechanic, so it could be possible here.<<
Yes I know that but when did Blue ever kill anyone with one shot? Never to my knowledge, Scarlet can do it, it's pretty obvious that Blue can't, that's probably why he threw the ladder at Magnus, to push him into that electric generator.
But didn't Scarlet state in Spectrum Strikes Back that The Electro Gun is the only thing that can kill a Mysteron? (I know he did I’m just saying why should Scarlet say that when bullets can also kill Mysterons?)

What!??

How is it obvious that blue can not shoot from one act of him pushing a ladder on somthing, thats just $tupid to sugest that.

If you note manhunt took place before operation time and spectrum strikes back the time when they found electric kills them and scarlet actually states what you mentioned above.

Anyway it was never proved that a bullet KILLED a mysteron, take spectrum strikes back for example captain indigo did not die from the bullet maybe beacuse he was shot fatally but he did die from the electro gun.

Incidents when a gun proved to be enough, you can prove with captain scarlets retrometabolism. The mysteron reconstruction gets shot and technically goes in to a state of.... well deadness as does captain scarlet, but the mysterons could easily retrometabolise them as captain scarlet naturally does himself. A Gun could kill a mysteron but not altogether completely STOP a mysteron, the elctro Gun is the only weapon that will stop the threat of the mysterons COMPLETELY.

And Before it is mentioned, 'why don't the mysterons retrometabolise the dead mysteron' well there is not a lot of point to try do somthing with sombody you already have tried it with. I.E the sniper in winged assassin, well that sinping plan failed so its back to the drawing board so they concoct a NEW original plan with DT 19.

DJU

And blue did techinically kill with with one shot.

He killed Captain scarlet in 'The Mysterons' he may of took many shots to try and hit scarlet but scarlet took lots of shots too :D It was a gun battle and in the end 1 bullet killed captain scarlet, but the 800 foot fall messed up the mysteron control and he was capable of retrometabolising on his own.

Well if Blue could kill someone with one shot why didn't he in Operation Time ?
Because Magus could have fired back.

>>Anyway it was never proved that a bullet KILLED a mysteron<<
Watch the following again
The opening credits,
Manhunt,
White as Snow,
Shadow of Fear,
The Trap and
Codename Europa.
All the Mysteron agents died from a bullet except Goddard (The Trap) I'm referring to Holt and Scarlet killed every one of them, not Blue

And no that one shot didn't kill Scarlet, the fall from the Car-Vu did.

I think it extremely silly to keep arguing the point over and over. Blue Pushed the ladder on magnus thus knocking him on to electric mains, it was the safest option, starting a gun fight off in the middle of the generotor room is an exteremly $tupid idea. Anyway does it matter why he pushed the ladder on him, and it does not prove whether blue can shoot or not.

Yes every time one of those mysterons were shot it was enough to...well kill them off and stop the threat but in theroy all they have is a bullet wound whcih could be healed by the mysterons to continue etc but the mysterons in a way surrender that mysteron as they have lost the battle. But ultimatly the electro gun is the only weapon that can render the mysterons completly Dead/Useless.

Plus i think both the shot and fall were enough to kill scarlet.
Going back to my previous point the gun shot eleminated the problem by probaly severely/fatally injuring scarlet after a loooooong moaning seession whilst falling and if that was not enough the fall certainly did it. Just before scarlet hit the floor he still had some mysteron contol over him, the massive impact of the fall disrupted the power/control and scarlet was left with natural retrometablolism.

And why do you keep bringing up that scarlet shot the people and not blue, who shot who never came in to questioning.

I would have thought that in Blue's background in Security, the ability to kill a person with one bullet would be a great asset.

There is no dialogue or anything anywhere in the series to suggest that Scarlet is the only Spectrum agent to kill anyone with just one bullet.

And I would have thought that the generator room would the place on Cloudbase that you would DEFINITELY not want bullets flying around in, we don't know what was in there!

Lets just say that Blue wasn't thinking straight, I mean he was close to being shot by Magnus or electrocuted by the generator so he did the first thing that came to mind, push the ladder or even push Magnus, shoot Magnus, punch Magnus, run away, try to reason with him (again) get someone else to stop him, completely ignore the situation.
You'll do any thing when you're desperate to live.

>>Lets just say that Blue wasn't thinking straight<<

Of course he was thinking straight, so pushing ladder on to someone means you don't think straight according to you.

Captain Blue WAS thinking straight that why he pushed it on to magnus, its called common sense and it also comes in to the realms of STRATEGY and TACTICS.

Yes he was in a bit of a situation, but thats where he's training comes in to effect, if he was incapable of dealing with such situations i doubt SPECTRUM would of recruited him.

>>Captain Blue WAS thinking straight that why he pushed it on to magnus, its called common sense and it also comes in to the realms of STRATEGY and TACTICS.<<
But then Magnus could have caught the ladder and even thrown it back at Blue so it would have been more of a safer option if Blue had just shot Magnus.

Crikey, I've opened a right old tin of worms here...

You may argue it's dangerous to have bullets flying around in the generator room, but surely having Magnus collide with one of the generators wouldn't have done much good either?

And if Blue's an expert marksman (which he undoubtedly is) then he should be able to take out Magnus straight away WITHOUT blowing anything up in the process.

After Magnus shuts himself in the room (whatever room it was) Blue and Grey discussed going in the back way, so to speak. When Grey said, "Let's go," Blue answered, "No. I'd better go alone." Why? Just hogging the glory? He could have asked Grey to keep Magnus' attention by knocking around the front door.

Why didn't that lab technician just call Col. White over the intercom system?

In relation to the idea of a Mysteron duplicate only being killed by electricity there is a theory as to why bullets work the rest of the time.

When a duplicate fails it's mission the mysterons cut it's control signal and so it dies as there's no mind left to keep it alive. As there's no point haf the time with the duplicate coming back to life after they've been discovered as they'll just be taken prisoner or continually injured to keep them passive.

This also explains how Captian Scarlet came back as his control signal was cut but he was alive when originaly copied so he had his original mind to keep him going.

There's also the idea that the Mysterons are only testing Earth as they never seem to use their powers to their full extent. Ie its been shown several times that they can make anything electronic stop working so why not just turn off cloadbases engines or just cause the person they want to kill to have an accident instead of killing someone else and making them do it. Plus there's the fact that they always annouce their plots to Spectrum each week.