Declan, Callie...where are the synopsizes? tsk tsk

ok so I think this is the right episode. the one with the Tolons correct? if it isn't would you please transport this message tot he proper episode (would be much easier with synopsis printed but *sigh* ;)

anyway, I enjoyed this episode but of course it left me a little sad, I liked the Tolons. its too bad they didn't have a little of that human creativity to get them out of their Jam:

gee the Go'ould are immune to our Ion cannons and want us to build super bombs for them or they will destroy us *build build build* ok we now have super bombs that can go through ANYTHING..hey! I have any Idea.. why don't we fire a couple of these things at the Go'ould in orbit so that we dont have to be responsible for the endless slaughter that will follow if they get their hands on these things.

I was also wondering how many Ion Cannons earth got before the Tolon fell. it looks like Earth provided the Tolons with quite a bit of trinium and I cant see earth giving us so much before receiving anything. so we should have a couple cannons by now, I hope it comes up in later episodes. After all I imagine that only Tanith's Master has the Ion Cannon shielding, Go'ould would never share technology. thus the rest of the system lords are still vulnerable to Ion Cannons. Thus Earth now has at least partial defense against the snakes.

personal favorite phrase of this episode

"Big honking Space guns!" -Col. O'Neil

Don - sorry there are no synopses for Season 5. Being a Brit, I haven't even seen season 4 yet! I could go to other SG-1 websites and pick up information from there but that would be plagiarism and could get this site into trouble. Unfortunately, therefore, there's not much I can do until I've seen the episode. You might like to e-mail Declan - I believe he's an American and so might have seen more than me but he's not been around this site for a very long time so may have gone missing!

Don,

I can only agree with the points you made. When sam and the tolan talk about sacrificing the tolan world to save the rest of the universe (the earthmen never have to make the choice, somebody always bails earth out - are we the center of the universe? *sigh*), sam only says how hard it is, but that it's necessary.

Of course, if the chancellor had put the problem in front of all tollan people, then they wouldn't have been so surprised at the attack. Maybe somebody on the planet would have thought of using these super weapons against the goauld, too.

Where did tanith's master get the new shields from, anyway? Sofar the goaulds were parasitic, using advanced technology but unable to invent anything new. Did they steal them from somebody?

You know, the only way this would make same sense is for the tolans to build one kind of weapon openly to give to the goauld and the super bombs secretly to use against them. Sadly, the dialogue and the story goes against this.

How did the goauld think that this would work, anyway? "I order you to build a weapon that destroys everything, or I'll wipe you out. But when you have finished, don't use the weapon on me, use it on somebody innocent." The goauld never thought that the tolans might destroy him instead???

With the “previously …” bit and especially the clip of Omoc saying, “Perhaps we’ll meet again,” I was thinking it was going to be nice to see him again and find out if he’d mellowed any. Cut to his funeral. Oops.

Earth has an offworld trinium mine. Is that Shyla’s world?

Nice touches: Daniel continuing to emulate Jack, probably without realising it. In fact, definitely without realising it – he’d probably be quite startled if he knew that he kept doing it, but it always brings a smile to my face when I see him say something in tandem with Jack or see them finish each other’s sentences, or the bit where both of them tap the table after a briefing.

That’s a smart computer Narim has – just one touch translates the Tollan text into English.

So how did Daniel know which was Narim’s house?

It was kind of dumb of the Tollans not to deactive Omoc’s codes as soon as he died. Normally I’d put it down to complacency but if Omoc was murdered shouldn’t the instigators have been more cautious?

Did the two outer screens on Travell’s desk face outwards or were Sam and Daniel reading backwards? And again the text is conveniently translated into English.

When Jack goes into Narim’s house the second time, you can see that the door has a peephole. Why would he need a peephole? He’s got cameras outside!

How can SGC assume that the Goa’uld didn’t get the new weapons? They’re more likely to have wiped out the Tollans – avoiding the depot – and collected the weapons later, then find another race to send a bomb through to Earth.

This was a really good – if sad – episode.

In Narim's house, you can see that the monitor on
the table has a big cable hidden underneath the carpet. It couldn't be hidden well. This nit was mentioned on the DVD actually...

Unless I'm mistaken, the building that Nerim fired at was the warehouse that contained the super bombs, Callie.

As well as not using the phase device offensively, I'm amazed that the Tollan didn't think to use the phase device defensively. Everyone is running around trying not to get shot. Ummm, how's about going intangible and letting the weapons fire go through you? Depending on how much power it takes, you could extend this to the city, possibly the planet, definitely the escape ships.

You’re right, Keith – and as other people have pointed out here, destroying it was a Really Silly thing to do!

What with that and then not using their Handy Dandy Walk Through Walls devices (patent pending), all in all they deserved to be wiped out!

It does begin to look as if the smarter your race is the less able you are to cope with crises. The Asgard were bad enough but now the Tollans just lie down and whimper as well?!

Another thing, why didn't the Tollans contact the Knox or the Asgard for help?

The weapons were made using trinium from Earth.
All the weapons were made using the first shipment of trinium.
Tanith orders a weapon sent to Earth.
No more shipments of trinium.

So, did Tanith no know where the material to make his weapons was coming from, or did he mislead the Tollan about how many batches of weapons he wanted?

When Jack and Daniel were sitting outdoors waiting for the Minister to finish her discussions with the Curia about whether Earth could have 38 ion cannons, it may just be my dirty mind but I could not work out why Daniel appeared to have his hands between his legs and was jiggling frantically!!

Nice bit with the hologram. When it first comes up, it isn't quite facing Sam - which is what would more than likely happen in that situation. And then having her turn it to face her was the icing on the cake.

Unfortunately, I half read the board before I saw the show, so I kept expecting the Tolan to blow up the Go'auld ship. And then they didn't, and I thought, Man, how dumb can you be?
Then again, maybe it's like the book I'm reading, where the aliens get 'barbarians' (14th century Englishmen) to fight their battles. One of the aliens comments that it's been so long since they fought, they don't know how to think about it anymore. (Or something like that.)

I also liked the line about nobody murdering anymore. I'm not a humanist, so lines like that really annoy me: the more advanced we get, the less amoral we are. Then Narim added, Security prevents it. I thought that was great!

Hmm, the buildings on the Tollan planet bear a striking resemblance to Simon Fraser University in Burnaby, BC.