Okay, now we have a potentially explosive situation on Destiny here. Granted, Camille and her group seem to have backed down, but as was said, this isn't over. However, what can Young do? Clearly something will have to be worked out because they have to live on that ship together. This is not Star Trek, where you can simply transfer the bad apples to another ship. Besides, I think Young realizes that they need Rush, despite his dislike for the man.

Executing Camille would be too extreme, and I can't see Young doing that. It would not end the problem, but make it worse. The last thing Young needs right now is a martre (sp?)

I suppose that they could leave Camille and her followers on the next suitable planet Destiny comes upon, but would Young do that? He seems to regret leaving Rush behind, so would he do that with more people?

I wonder why these aliens want Destiny so badly. Have we really seem the last of them?

Good episode.

I almost turned it off halfway through. I was thinking I do not really want to watch this anymore. I do not like any of the characters; would not invite a single one of them into my home in real life, as I would have most of the SG-1 and Atlantis characters. These people have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. They need each other yet are too full of themselves to realize it. I feel a little sorry for Eli though; caught in the middle. And I wonder if Scott and Chloe will stay together.

But, I will probably tune in again next week, just to watch the train wreck continue.

Beth - ;)
in Calgary

It looks like it's time for Destiny's semi annual mutiny.

I was almost at the point of calling a continuity nit during Chloe’s midnight walk along the corridors. When she was taken into the alien ship she was wearing a pink top; after her rescue she was wearing an identical-looking top but this one was blue. At the beginning of the episode it really looked like she was back in pink. However, throughout the episode the colour of her top switches from pink to blue and I can only assume that it has to do with the levels of lighting in the room or corridor that she’s in at the time.

The casting of Chloe and her mother in terms of facial resemblance is awesome. When I watched the episode the second time and saw Chloe looking through the small window in the bulkhead during her nightmare, I was struck by just how similar the two actresses look.

I really liked that opening sequence. Even though it was very quickly obvious that it was a dream, it was well-filmed and dramatic and the music was great.

Yay for another director who doesn’t insist that someone waking from a nightmare should sit up flailing.

When Chloe left the bedroom and started to walk the corridors a second time – especially when the same music started – I thought they were going to go for the old and no-longer-surprising routine of her still being in a dream, so I was glad to see that that didn’t happen.

Why would Rush keep a communication stone hidden? What can he do with it without the box that activates it? That’s a really lame explanation of how the aliens got hold of one. And did one particular alien just happen to be wandering around with it in his pocket when Young tried to contact Earth in the last episode? And why would Young connect to that stone anyway, when his own stone should only connect with its partner back on Earth?

I believe that this director is a first-timer on the Stargate franchise. I don’t know whether’s he’s new to the business, and I have no problem with most of his filming but – while the in-shadow footage of Young and Greer talking in the doorway of the Mess was initially rather nice and atmospheric – it did not look good in the long shots when Young’s silhouette looked like he’d got boobs and a pregnant bump!

Is this the first time that Young has flown the shuttle onscreen? Presumably he’s had a few lessons offscreen.

Did Eli not realise that you can probably turn a Kino upside down so it can film the alien ship the right way up?!

So it looks like it was one of the alien ships that left Destiny at the end of Air part 3. Is the one now parked on Destiny on automatic pilot, or have our crew considered that there might actually be aliens on board who will burrow into Destiny when they see the shuttle coming? There doesn’t seem to be any mention of guarding the corridors leading from that area (and I know that they probably still haven’t been able to get access to all of the ship) and nobody seems the least bit concerned about a potential alien incursion.

This episode confirms that the aliens have been trying to get on board Destiny for some time before the humans arrived. How did the aliens fail before? Rush said in the last episode that they were trying to get past her defences, but how did she know how and when to defend herself when she was unmanned? And if the aliens easily got pods onto the surface of the ship, and we know they can burrow in through the roof with no problem, just what “defences” have they had a problem with before? Also, if Destiny doesn’t recognise anything that is simply parked on her surface as part of herself and so doesn’t wrap the shield around it, do they have to dig into the surface to hold on during F.T.L.?

Why is Brody on plant-watering detail? As one of the few scientists who can work the consoles on Destiny, you’d think that he’d have more important tasks.

Has Rush really been giving everyone lessons in Ancient? How else does Scott manage to read the countdown clock so easily?

The music during the “the shuttle can’t dock” scene was completely awesome.

Why did Destiny stop at that spot in the first place if – apparently – there were no planets nearby worth dialling? She does it again later on, which allows the alien ships to catch up. Does she just stop to catch her breath occasionally?

The whole coup thing seems a little drastic. Why haven’t the civilian contingent even asked if they can have more say in how the ship is run? It’s not like they couldn’t ask the powers that be back on Earth if things can change. Young is simply doing what the military automatically do – taking charge – and he might even be reasonable if he was asked nicely. Is Camille genuinely so afraid that he’s going to kill anyone that gets in his way, or is she just jumping onto Rush’s bandwagon because it’s convenient?

I can understand T.J. telling Dunning that they’re not going to shoot anyone, but allowing him to just hand over his weapon is a little too much of a surrender, and a nervous civilian with a gun is far more likely to shoot someone accidentally. For that matter, why did he put it on the floor anyway? Why not just hand it over to someone?

Brody had to lower the tensile strength of the hull to allow the Kino through the forcefield. How did Young and Greer get through without that adjustment?

Surely T.J. must have given Rush and Chloe a medical examination after their return? Why didn’t she find the scar on Rush’s chest? Was he so convinced that Young would throw him out of an airlock if he told the truth that he claimed that he’d had the scar before (and that’s even assuming that the alien surgery left the wound completely healed and looking like it had been there for ages)? However, T.J. must also have examined him when he collapsed with sleep/nicotine/caffeine withdrawal and she would probably have had a stethoscope against his bare chest then (hell, I know I would have used that as a good excuse to get his shirt off!). All right, I’ll agree that she isn’t expected to remember everyone’s distinguishing marks, but after their time on the alien ship I would have thought she would have asked about anything out of the ordinary.

The communication stone that Rush had on him is still on board the alien ship. Why did Young think it was safe to use the stones to get a surgeon from Earth? Even if this alleged stone of Rush’s was aligned to the one alien, its death wouldn’t necessarily stop there being a link to the ship, especially if the other aliens stripped the dead one and found the stone on it. And yet Young never even said that they had to risk it and hope that the connection wouldn’t go straight to an alien again. Did they strap Chloe down just in case, before they did the swap? And – for that matter – if there was the slightest chance that she might end up back on that ship, how come Chloe volunteered in the first place? And in fact they would have had to either use two stones, or send Chloe twice: once to jump into whoever was on duty at the time (let’s hope for Chloe’s sake it wasn’t Telford!) to say, “Get a surgeon in here for a transfer in two minutes. Oh, and make it a woman if you can,” and then break the connection, then re-connect two minutes later to get the surgeon onto Destiny.

And how convenient that the nearest surgeon was a woman. Doctor Brightman was chief medic at SGC for a while after Fraiser was killed. She was blonde back then, and I couldn’t tell whether it was the same person or not until I looked up the cast list for Season 8’s Lockdown.

T.J. says she isn’t qualified to do the surgery. Brightman finds the device and says that it will be “a bit tricky” to get it out, then they lose the connection and Chloe returns to her own body ... and T.J. then takes the device out with hardly any difficulty at all! Mind you, visually it looks as if she just yanks it out with her fingers!

Let’s hope that Destiny is heading straight for the nearest star in view of how low on power she now is!

Good episode. And despite Chloe being in it a lot, she didn’t annoy me. Things are looking up!

Yeah, if a confirmed Chloe hater likes an episode, maybe things will get better.

I wonder what they will do with the civilians. Can't guard all of them all the time. Something is gonna have to be worked out.

NNAN. Aliens are attacking the ship & Rush has a tracking device in him, so Young orders it taken out.
So many years of watching Star Trek I was expecting Young to ask if the signal could be blocked before going to the more drastic course of action.

Beth, I've moved your video link to Air part 2. Thanks for posting it!

That is ok. I wondered after I posted it if it should not have been somewhere else.

Is it me, or are the civilian contingent for the most part, the most unlikable, incompetent bunch of idiots around. I wouldn't trust half of them to flush a toilet correctly, and while they seem to be making an idol out of Rush of all people.

Its not just you.

Maybe Icarus was just the SGC's way of trying to avoid the Peter Principle? ;-)
"Yeah, let's stick them on an unstable planet that could explode at any minute. If it blows up we don't lose any important people."

Ohmygod, that explains everything! Suddenly this series makes so much more sense! You're a genius, Keith!

And let's face it, compared with the rest of the civilians, Rush is a god!

So Icarus was SGC's "B-Ark"?

You know, that would explain the large number of Telephone Sanitizers working on Project Icarus