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Wow! Did they just give Camille some character development there?
I still don't like her, but the possibility that her character might grow & change is amazing.

Eli argues that the Luciens don't know they are watching, but earlier Rush had mentioned to the Luciens that they would need visual confirmation.
While that doesn't necessarily imply Rush & his group can see what the Luciens are doing, you'd think the possibility might run through one or more of the Luciens' heads.

All that build-up & by the end of the episode...

Well I guess it's understandable TPTB don't want a baby on board. (It's hard to have "sexier" storytelling when there's kids around.)

All that trouble to get the Lucien Alliance onto the ship then just maroon them on a planet... Unless some aliens come along & pick them up it seems like a bit of a wasted plot point.

Oh, for those Americans who don't have cable, Hulu.com has this episode up. (Although those viewers outside the US will have to find other ways to see it.)

Nothing kills a series faster than adding a child. At least they got rid of it without killing it.

So, what are they gonna do with those Lucien prisoners they have. Keep them and feed them from their limted rations? Incorporate them into the crew, those that would be willing to go along, that is? Put them on the first habital planet they come across?

So just who are those aliens that built that planet and took T.J. and her baby there. Nice to see that group that stayed behind is doing okay.

Boy, Chloe sure healed pretty fast. I guess the Chloe haters must be in tears.

Why did the Luciens want Destiny. They're a gagillion light years away from Lucien space.

I see Star Trek is not the only show to have aliens that look like us. The Luciens could easily pass for humans.

So I guess Telford is stuck on Destiny now. I wonder if that will cause friction between him and Young.

Not a bad opening episode, but I little anti-climatic. Hopefully, this season will be a good one.

Tim, the Lucians are human. That’s something that was established early in SG-1: the Goa’uld took humans from Earth and seeded them throughout the galaxy to breed amongst themselves and then be useful as slaves. So the Lucian Alliance are all descended from Earth folk ... and all conveniently speak English too!

Well. That episode. Was. Bad. In my opinion, of course – other opinions are available.

It’s way too early in the season to be bringing in mysterious aliens. I wouldn’t mind us revisiting them at some time in the season, but if they’re going to become Universe’s deus ex machina whenever the writers can’t think of a more inventive way of saving someone’s life, or can’t bother having to go to the effort of scripting a mother grieving for her stillborn daughter, then we’re in for a naff season. Hell, I’d rather Franklin had been the magical rescuer than this.

Did the mysterious aliens also provide all that fur, cos there was never any indication of wildlife while the crew were on the planet during Faith?

What the heck happened to Caine in the intervening months? He’s aged about 15 years! Is this what living with the aliens does for you – or is that just the outdoor living? I’m actually wondering whether Tygh Runyan has been ill since his last appearance, cos he looks really rough.

Caine says they were working on lean-tos and the winter was coming. They’ve got a bloody working shuttle – why didn’t they head to the other side of the planet? If these aliens are so smart, I’m sure they could have found them wherever they were, so it wasn’t essential to stay near the obelisk.

Why are the Alliance using Earth radios? Did they stupidly not bring their own method of communicating around the ship? Were they so arrogant and stupid that they assumed they would get immediate control?

So couldn’t Rhona Mitra be bothered to come back for her final episode, or was she fed up with playing a stereotypical Stargate baddie, complete with evil English accent?

Yay for Riley still being alive! But T.J. had treated his head wound so why is it pouring blood again? Did the wildly firing rifle in the Infirmary just happen to hit the same place on his head?

They keep gating to quarries! What is this, Doctor Who in the 1970s?!

When Dannic started strangling Ginn (the woman who couldn’t get the countdown clock back up), I rolled my eyes and resigned myself to the fact that this series will never have convincing baddies. They’re always so Evil League of Evil bad instead of being rounded human beings. (Well, apart from the obligatory one baddy with the heart of gold, of course.) Hopefully we won’t have any reason for any more human bad guys once they sort out the last of the Lucians left on board.

I notice that Scott cuffs the Lucian guy across the face with his own gun. He’s been taking lessons on fighting dirty from Greer!

Why is Camille back in her own body when Scott and Greer take the Infirmary? Why did Dannic (I presume it was him) send the medics back to Earth? They might be needed if any of his people are caught on the edge of the next pulsar blast, and Earth might refuse to reconnect.

Just after Vanessa gets herself electrocuted on the planet, we cut to Dannic and his minions, and they walk past a wall just outside the Control Interface Room which has lots of calculations scrawled on it in chalk. Did Nick run out of notebook at long last?! Or it is complicated mathematical graffiti done by Eli that translates to read “I heart Chloe Armstrong”?

Hydroponics can’t be the only place on the ship that’s safe from the radiation blast. Are the Lucian scientists so stereotypically ignorant that they can’t work out somewhere else they could take cover from the next pulse?

Chloe is (thankfully) very quiet when she realises that her boyfriend is about to die in the next pulsar blast instead of screaming and railing at Nick like she would have done in the past.

Dannic says to his people, “You know what this ship means.” It’s more than we do – can someone explain it to us, plz?

Caine warns T.J. that no-one on the ship will understand what happened to her. Yeah, that’s because she never left the ship, and unless the baby’s body has mysteriously vanished from Destiny, neither did Carmen. So what exactly are Caine and the others looking after? And will T.J. ever think to ask where her daughter’s body is?

Nice touch: there’s dirty water on the floor of the Gateroom as the crew returns. Of course they would have trailed that in with them, but well done to whoever remembered that the set would need to be dressed that way.

But how long did it take to retrieve the offworld crew? Nick was in the Gateroom, so Brody had had time to unweld the door of Hydroponics.

This week’s montage song annoyed the heck out of me, if only because as a former chorus director I cannot stand bad breath support, and hearing the vocalist sing “flow ... (breath) ... ers” made me cringe every time.

Yes, I’ll happily admit it: when Nick took his jumper off, I was chanting, “More, please. More!”

T.J. walks past crew members on her way to the Observation Deck and there are more on the Deck itself, but not a single person says anything to her. Some of them were at her baby shower, for crying out loud, and not one bugger is willing to talk to her. Sometimes I think they deserved to be stranded on that bloody planet. Alternatively, this is just typical of the writers doing even more to make it look like losing a baby is no big deal when you’re in space.

I assumed that Chloe was healed by the same aliens that ‘saved’ T.J.’s baby, but some people on Gateworld are suggesting that her quick healing was a result of something done to her by the blue aliens. It will hopefully be interesting finding out which ones in due course.

It’ll be interesting to see how they deal with the Alliance crew. They really can’t afford to keep them on board – they’ve barely got enough food to feed themselves without a new influx of hungry mouths.

Tim, the Lucians are human. That’s something that was established early in SG-1: the Goa’uld took humans from Earth and seeded them throughout the galaxy to breed amongst themselves and then be useful as slaves. So the Lucian Alliance are all descended from Earth folk ... and all conveniently speak English too!

Oh, thanks Callie. I didn't realize that

Tim - So I guess Telford is stuck on Destiny now. I wonder if that will cause friction between him and Young.
Telford: I need to use the stones to go to Earth & bang your ex-wife.
Young: *twitch twitch*
;-)

Callie - Well. That episode. Was. Bad. In my opinion, of course – other opinions are available.
They may be available, but will anyone use them? ;-)

Did the mysterious aliens also provide all that fur, cos there was never any indication of wildlife while the crew were on the planet during Faith?
The wildlife could have just laid low while these mysterious new creatures were crashing around the woods. (I've been taught that when looking for rocks in areas where rattlesnakes are is to make noise so the snakes can hear it & move away.)

when Nick took his jumper off, I was chanting, “More, please. More!”
Sounds like something that could go on the MiSTing page.

Telford: I need to use the stones to go to Earth & bang your ex-wife.
Young: *twitch twitch*

Evil Keith! I love it!

I hope T.J. never tells Rush that the aliens not only provided the colonists with log cabins and all the trimmings, but also gave them COFFEE! Mind you, if anything was going to persuade him to get control of the ship and turn it around, it'd be news that there's coffee in that there previous galaxy.
(I feel a Janeway-ism coming on ...)

Talking of things people shouldn't have, I notice that T.J. had an oxygen mask on her face in the Infirmary. There's no way that anyone brought oxygen cylinders through in the evacuation from Icarus, so is Destiny really already kitted out with such?

Sounds like something that could go on the MiSTing page.
Nah, just my fangirly imagination. And it's spending a lot of time in there, let me tell you. ;-)

I hope T.J. never tells Rush that the aliens not only provided the colonists with log cabins and all the trimmings, but also gave them COFFEE! Mind you, if anything was going to persuade him to get control of the ship and turn it around, it'd be news that there's coffee in that there previous galaxy.

Cue the Juan Valdez "turn the ship around" commercials.

I hope T.J. never tells Rush that the aliens not only provided the colonists with log cabins and all the trimmings, but also gave them COFFEE! Mind you, if anything was going to persuade him to get control of the ship and turn it around, it'd be news that there's coffee in that there previous galaxy.
(I feel a Janeway-ism coming on ...)


Well, since Universe is Stargate's answer to Voyager, both have humans stranded on a ship far from home, it would be fitting if one of them craved coffee. Rush and Janeway could exchange woes of no coffee