Aftermath

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Stargate - SG-1, Atlantis, etc: Stargate Universe: Season 2: Aftermath
A transcript of this episode can be found here.
By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 4:24 am:

Finally an explanation for why the Lucien Alliance wanted Destiny.
Sounds like they were sold a bill of goods. ;-)

When Rush is talking to his dead wife they are talking about Destiny's route.
Off-hand if I had programmed such a ship I would have it tour the galaxy checking where gates had been planted & seeing if they are active or if the planet is safe. I'm not sure if Destiny has behaved like that or not (nothing to confirm or deny that comes to mind), but it seems logical to me.

Just how many shuttles does Voyager Destiny have anyway? One less now.

Ooooookayyyyy... the gate on the planet was knocked down & buried & that kept the gate from activating (which based on earlier eps of the series seems to be a 50/50 situation.) So they dig it up, plant the ring... and it appears that they planted it in the original base it was supposed to be part of... huh?
Was the ring just setting loose in the base & fell over? Did the ring get blown from the base & they had to find & reattach it? Did they have to dig up the ring & base & set it up properly? None of those scenarios seems right based on what we saw.

The gate is vibrating & Eli says they have to clear the whoosh zone.
*snicker* Anyone else expecting someone to move the last piece only for the wormhole to whoosh out & vaporize them? ;-)

Veoh.com says the first three episodes will air the day after the TV airing. They don't say what the schedule will be after that.


By ScottN (Scottn) on Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 9:39 am:

It looked like the gate was buried vertically.


By ScottN (Scottn) on Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 9:40 am:

Actually, both. When Greer says "look down", it looks like the gate fell over.

But when they're digging it out, the gate looks like it was buried standing up.


By ScottN (Scottn) on Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 1:54 pm:

Finally an explanation for why the Lucien Alliance wanted Destiny.

I don't recall it being mentioned explicitly. Or is it for the Lucien attack on Earth?


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 12:41 am:

The Lucian gal (forget her name) said, "Ancient legend said the address led to great understanding. It could make you as powerful as the gods." Then "I assume it meant godlike power, like the ascended Ancients. If you could control time and space..." And later stated that this was why they wanted the ship.


By ScottN (Scottn) on Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 9:19 am:

Thanks


By Callie (Csullivan) on Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 2:39 pm:

You know, when I saw Robert Cooper’s name come up as the writer of this episode I was really pleased, thinking, “He usually writes the really good ones; this should be a belter.” I had no idea just how amazing some of it would be. After the disappointment of last week’s episode, there were moments in this one that will definitely be in my all-time top-five most memorable Stargate moments.

Did anyone else look at the fancy door which was revealed when that massive wall panel dropped out of the way and think, “The markings on that look Goa’uld to me”? But as soon as the doors opened I was yelping excitedly, “He’s found the Bridge!”

I love the way the Bridge is tucked away inside the ship. Presumably it automatically retreats when Destiny’s under attack, and is a brilliant safely feature if so.

Good ol’ Stargate – they do like a show with someone with a bit of an issue with glasses! Daniel Jackson in SG-1 would sometimes struggle to see a thing without his specs but on other occasions could see just fine without them; Nicholas’ need for his glasses seems to vary; and now Everett Young is suddenly looking through what I thought were only his reading glasses as if he needs them all the time.

Obviously I had no idea what was to come, but I almost feel guilty now about how, when I saw the crew entering the shuttle, I sniggered, “Should they really be taking Riley? He’s a bit of a jinx!”

I had spoilered myself by spotting Mark Burgess’ name in the opening credits but still squeaked excitedly when Franklin appeared on the Bridge.

I suspect that the vis effects people have got some shiny new computer software for this season. The detail on the shuttle and its surroundings during its descent to the planet was staggering. When the wing clipped the side of the mountain, I have never so much wanted to rush out and buy a huge flatscreen HD television because I would love to watch that entire sequence on something other than my computer or my 21” TV screen.

I like how Dunning – one of Park’s “reading” companions – holds her hand during the crash.

Again unaware of how it would pan out, I snorted at the sight of Riley trapped under rubble, saying, “He’s Universe’s Siler!” (For Tim’s benefit, Sergeant Siler was a technician in SG-1. It became a bit of a standing joke that whenever one of the main crew was in the Infirmary, Siler was often in the background being treated for one injury or another.)

I’m staggered that the writers decided to lose their last shuttle so early in the second season. I wonder if there are some more tucked away that they’ll find later. I’d be surprised if there are any more parked on the surface, because surely Eli has sent a Kino all over the exterior of the ship by now.

Scott and Keith are right in their comments above about the confusing angles of the buried Gate. The first time we see it, it looks as if Greer is standing on the front of it and it’s either horizontal or – at best – angled at no more than about 30 degrees, so much so that I said, “Well, that’s OK if it fell on its back – they just need to get the rocks off it and it should work.” Then I later realised that these Gates spin as they dial, and it presumably wouldn’t be able to spin if it was lying down.

However, we then return to the scene when they’re starting to dig it out and it looks as if it’s upright – and it must be, cos I can’t imagine they would have been able to pull it upright and settle it back into its cradle.

I had to go back to the shot where Greer first drew their attention to the fact that they were standing on top of the Gate, and had to squint really hard to see that it was actually upright because you can just about see the top chevron on the side of the exposed bit. Unfortunately the camera angle was such that – for some odd reason – it does look as if the Gate is curving in such a way that it must be lying down, but the chevron proves otherwise. Just a strange visual effect that has confused the heck out of a lot of people, and the arguments are still going on on the Gateworld Forum!

Of course, the crew were lucky to land on the same continent as the Gate, let alone within a ten minute stroll!

That’s a fairly massive explosion when they blow the Gate out of the rocks, yet not a single speck of rock dust comes down on the team.

When Young said to Telford, “D’you think you’ve earned the trust of the men and women on this ship enough for them to follow you?” I laughed sarcastically and asked him, “Have you?!”

Eli comes through the Gate onto Destiny holding the remote. That was unbelievably stupid – what if for some reason Destiny couldn’t dial out, or jumped unexpectedly. Those left behind on the offworld Gate could have dialled to a more habitable planet if only they had had a remote.

Even halfway through the final conversation between Young and Riley I was convinced that something would happen to get Hunter out of there. I can’t even count how long and how much and how broken-heartedly I wept during and after his death. That’s the darkest thing I’ve ever seen on a sci-fi show. I think it was very brave, but purely personally it ripped me to bits, both during my first viewing and even more while I was writing it for the transcript. This is supposed to be a hobby, dammit – I’m not supposed to be crying my eyes out while I’m working. And I will never be able to watch Kinosode 30 again.

Someone on Gateworld pointed out that Dunning simply disappears partway through the episode! He’s not at the dig site helping unearth the Gate and he’s not on the shuttle helping to look after Riley. Where did he go?!

There were some good music choices here ... or rather, choices not to use music in an attempt to make scenes more dramatic. The scene where T.J. told Riley about her experience on the Faith planet played out in silence until the very end, and Riley’s death also had no background music. Mind you, if it had I would probably still be on the floor in a sobbing heap now, but I thought it was a brave move to let the visuals tell the whole story without any background music bolstering it.

So did they actually find food and water on that planet, and if not, are they sending the Lucian Alliance crew to their deaths? Or has Destiny jumped again since then and they’ve found a better planet to exile them to?

I’d love to know the reason why Simeon is on the shortlist, cos he doesn’t strike me as a particularly useful fellow.

I didn’t think Robert Cooper could beat Time as a memorable episode, but bloody hell. The Lucian bit was meh, but the build up to and culmination of Riley’s death was the most powerful piece of television I have seen in a long time. It’s such a shame that Cooper has now left and so – unless he comes back as a guest writer – this was his last episode.

And practically a Chloe-free episode. What more could you ask?


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 9:12 pm:

Boy the Lucians sure didn't find what they had hoped for on Destiny. I wonder if they were sold a Brooklyn Bridge.

Most of them were offloaded, except for a few, including the leader and the girl that plugged Dannick last week. Hope those on the planet find food and water. However, I can see Young's reasoning for wanting to get rid of them. Destiny does not have unlimited rations.

Poor old Riley, I guess his luck was bound to run out sooner or later.

So, is Rush just hallucinating, or is the ship manifesting itself in the form of his dead wife and Franklin.

How long has Rush known about that bridge and the controls. Sooner or later, he's going to have to tell Young.

I wonder if Destiny will have more shuttles that will magically appear, like they did on Voyager.

Telford's comments about military personal being under the command of Stargate Command made me smile. Telford, you're a LONG way from Stargate Command!

If they keep going down to quarries, maybe they'll run into the Doctor. He can pile them all in the TARDIS and take them back to Earth, mind you, not necessarily in the right century (Doctor Who always filmed in quarries when they went on location).

So, just what is the object that got their attention at the end of the episode. Guess we have to wait until next week to find out.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 2:14 am:

Me - Veoh.com says the first three episodes will air the day after the TV airing. They don't say what the schedule will be after that.
And now they do. "Subsequent episodes will become available 30 days after their original airdates."
Yeahhh... so I'm wondering which will come first, the 4th episode on Veoh, or the show's cancellation? ;-)


By Callie (Csullivan) on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 2:53 am:

Thirty days?!! What the hell is the point of that?! Surely most people will have downloaded it, bought it through iTunes or whatever, or seen it through some other source by then. Hell, the DVD boxset'll be available by then! (not quite, but almost)


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 3:09 am:

I don't know. Maybe the Syphylis channel thinks more people will watch it when it airs if they make it more inconvenient to watch it legally online?


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