Malice

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Stargate - SG-1, Atlantis, etc: Stargate Universe: Season 2: Malice
A transcript of this episode can be found here.
By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 12:11 am:

Wow, Rush goes all Charles Bronson in this episode! I can't blame the man, Simeon killed the one woman he cared for since his wife died. I kind of knew that Rush was going to do this when he caught up to Simeon.

As for Simeon, I'm glad his finally got his comupence. The guy was trouble from day one.

So, what about this planned attack on Earth? Will the writers follow up on this?

Amanda is dead, but what about Ginn? There is no menton of her fate at all. Is she trapped in Amanda's body, back on Earth for the rest of her life?

They worry that if Simeon gets away, he would use the gate to go to the planet where they left the rest of the Luciens. Uh, so what? Those people aren't going anywhere.

So, they can control Destiny's course now? I wonder if they will turn around and head back towards Earth. Granted, the ship would take thousands of years to get back here, but maybe they would find another Icaras planet along the way.

Eli was ready to go down and help. He and Rush would have been competing to be the one that kills Simeon.

Another good episode. This season is looking up. Still wish they'd lose those recaps though.


By Beth MacKeage (Beth__) on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 3:20 pm:

Ginn is dead too. Right at the beginning, after Rush finds her body, someone uses the stones and then someone reports that Amanda Perry is dead.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 6:45 pm:

That really doesn't make logical sense. Amanda is dead because she was in Ginn's body when Simeon killed her. Since Ginn's mind/soul/essence?? was in Amanda's body, on Earth, should she be alive? Rather she would be stuck in Amanda's body, because she would be unable to return to her own body.

How do these stones work anyway??

So, I guess if Rush hadn't killed Simeon, Eli would have (and Greer would probably want a shot at him as well).

(Fixed the error for you, Tim. Callie)


By Callie (Csullivan) on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 8:19 pm:

That really doesn't make logical sense.
It’s sci-fi, Tim; it doesn’t have to make logical sense! Back in season 1 they posited that if one body was killed, both bodies would die. The stones, presumably, keep each body and ‘soul’ – for want of a better word – linked; when Ginn’s body died, her ‘soul’ was unable to remain in its host body and died as well. Meanwhile Amanda’s ‘soul’ was killed as its host body died, and the resultant trauma killed Amanda’s body too.

I was so locked into this episode that I totally forgot to look to see who had written and directed it. It was only on the second time around and long after the opening credits that I went back to have a look and immediately had the “Oh, no wonder!” response when I saw that Robert Cooper (who I thought had already done his last episode) had written and directed it.

I really wish that I hadn’t been spoilered by selfish so-and-so’s on Gateworld who leaked what would happen in this episode during conversations of last week’s. At the end of last week’s episode I genuinely didn’t think that Simeon was going to kill Ginn. I feared it would be something even darker than that; or that he would take her hostage and use her to get him through the Gate, and I wouldn’t have been surprised if she died during the attempts to recapture him, but I certainly wouldn’t have expected her to be already dead at the beginning of the episode.

Gods, how tense was that scene leading up to Simeon and then Rush going through the Gate?! The music was incredibly simple but dramatic, and the filming was amazing.

I know I joked a few episodes ago that Lisa would be adding Dale Volker to her ‘reading group’ after his defence of her in the Mess, but I wonder whether that is now actually true because he does seem to have quite a thing for her.

Has Barnes never worked in the Infirmary before? T.J. seems to trust her enough to let her work on the injured airman alone, but Barnes appears to go completely to pieces as soon as her patient stops breathing, and just stands there uselessly.

Why are long-fingered actors always so gorgeous?! Or is that gorgeous actors always have long fingers? David Tennant on Doctor Who, Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock, and I almost swooned at the sight of Robert Carlyle’s fingers holding the bomb on Lisa’s back.

As soon as Lisa said that the device on her back was Lucian, I was asking, “Why aren’t they getting Varro into the Gateroom to help?”

Blimey, we’ve not seen Nick’s glasses for ages. It’s a good job they’re back just in time to save the day!

Apparently the explosion of the device was so good that they had to show it twice. I find it really annoying when they do that because it breaks the continuity.

It’s a shame there wasn’t time in this very long detailed episode for the conversation between Brody and Volker to have been a little bit longer before Eli and Lisa arrived on the Bridge. Dale’s anguish at not having been more useful was painful and sweet.

But I only realised later that Volker may not have been as useless as he thinks. When they’re discussing the three planets in range at the beginning of the episode, Dale says that one is a wasteland and two show some promise. Forced to dial at gunpoint, it seems that he was smart enough to dial the wasteland, thereby giving Simeon less of a pleasant getaway.

I wish we could upload pictures to Nitcentral (*growls at the memory of Peter*), but I have to say that this shot here was utterly gorgeous.

How cute was the alien creature?! I’d like one for Christmas, please – it can keep the brown alien from Awakening (which I have also requested for Christmas) company.

Nicholas’ slow disintegration into tears was painful and awesome to watch. It was obvious from the beginning of the scene what was going to happen, which made it all the more painful as it continued. I’m sure I’ve seen Robert Carlyle do a similar collapse in something else he’s been in, so I knew that it would be amazing, and wasn’t disappointed.

Why do baddies always have to be such rubbish shots? I’m not wishing any ill on Greer but Simeon had two really straightforward beads on him at different times, and he’d have to be an idiot to miss. So it’s kind of a miracle that he finally managed it on the third attempt!

The ultra-slow motion of the explosive going off near James and her team was all very dramatic, but to be honest I felt it was too dramatic and really needed Vanessa to be dead afterwards. The fact that she didn’t die made it a bit OTT. And again the device goes off more than once – three times this time. There’s such a thing as overkill, Coop!

Why the heck has whoever’s guarding the Armoury allowed Eli inside?

Simeon’s vicious radio message to Nick was probably Robert Knepper’s finest moment in this series, but how come nobody else heard it and radioed to Nick to try to keep him calm?

I let out a very satisfied growl of approval when Nick shot Simeon in the head.

Was it just me, or was there a touch of Kill Bill about Rush’s walk across the desert? I think it was the music that reminded me of the movie.

At the Gate, Scott says they didn’t come after Rush because they saw that the two Kino remote signals were coming back together. But Nick walked away from Simeon immediately after shooting him. Did he really then turn around and go back for the remote?

I loved that final line. The nonchalant look on Scott’s face as he asked Nick, “You feel any better?” spoke volumes and it was so obvious that he wasn’t enquiring after Nick’s health. Gorgeous.

Another staggering episode. This series just gets better all the time – and I still fear that it won’t get renewed because of the appalling viewing figures it’s getting on a Tuesday night in the USA.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 11:06 pm:

Back in season 1 they posited that if one body was killed, both bodies would die. The stones, presumably, keep each body and ‘soul’ – for want of a better word – linked; when Ginn’s body died, her ‘soul’ was unable to remain in its host body and died as well. Meanwhile Amanda’s ‘soul’ was killed as its host body died, and the resultant trauma killed Amanda’s body too.

Hmmmm, if you ask me, these stones seem more like something out of Harry Potter than on a science fiction show.


I felt it was too dramatic and really needed Vanessa to be dead afterwards

I'm glad that didn't happen. I like her.


and I still fear that it won’t get renewed because of the appalling viewing figures it’s getting on a Tuesday night in the USA

Maybe the morons at Sci-Fi will get the message and return the show to Friday nights before it's too late.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 4:44 am:

I realize Hollywood likes it explosions (okay, I think they're cool too), but I wondered what if Rush had chucked that bomb into the gate event horizon?

The gal survives the explosion, but we see blood from a cut somewhere under her helmet.
Now while it's not necessarily impossible (a piece of sharp debris might have flown up under the helmet) the general purpose of a helmet is to prevent head injuries, so they really should have given her the cut on an exposed area of her face.

Callie - Back in season 1 they posited that if one body was killed, both bodies would die.
So if one body caught a sexually transmitted disease both would? ;-)

I have to say that this shot here was utterly gorgeous.
While it is a nice shot, I couldn't help MiSTing, "See no evil. Hear no evil. What the hell?"

Callie - I still fear that it won’t get renewed
Tim - Maybe the morons at Sci-Fi will get the message and return the show to Friday nights before it's too late.
Errr... umm... *shifty eyes*


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