Common Descent

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Stargate - SG-1, Atlantis, etc: Stargate Universe: Season 2: Common Descent
A transcript of this episode can be found here.
By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 10:15 pm:

Well, turns out that the altnernate versions of the crew, that we learned about a few weeks back, didn't die. Instead of going back to Earth (like alt-Telford did), they ended up going back in time to a distant planet and founded a civilization. The Destiny now came across the descendents of said civilization.

Hmmm, two countries being founded, one of those who followed Young, the other of those who followed Rush. Interesting.

Boy, Rush was grumpy this week. He seemed to have no interest in the colonists at all. Everyone else was interested.

Interesting seeing those ancient kino vids (like TJ giving birth to her and Young's baby).

Camille is back. Just last week we were discussing her absence.

When they went back to the home planet of the descendents, it appears to be dead. The episode ended there. Next week we're going to follow up on this, it seems.

I wonder who Alt-Eli ended up with? He mentioned a child of his.

This episode resembles a Deep Space Nine episode called Children Of Time. The premise was similiar (the crew finding descendents of themselves on an unknown planet).

This was a good episode. I enjoyed it. Only three to go now.


By Callie (Csullivan) on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 11:35 am:

Why are those six drones running so far ahead of the rest of the fleet?

The command ship starts chasing Destiny and Lisa says they can’t jump for two hours and ten minutes. Young goes to the Control Interface Room and talks with Nick and Eli, then Lisa radios and says that the ETA of the command ship is less than one hour. Nick looks at the countdown clock and says that it’ll be close. Did the boys’ conversation really last for over an hour?!

We all know that Scott and Greer are the stars of the show, but why do Jason and Ellie only recognise the two of them in particular? If the old Kino footage is still being reviewed two thousand years later, surely everyone from the original expedition would be equally famous and so the youngsters would be equally gawking at the other members of the team?

I loved the whole ongoing disbelief of the science team about Adam naming his country Futura and whether that was the name of a font or not! I also cracked up at Adam’s suggestion that those people following Rush named their country Rusha!

Just how many hours had Destiny stopped on this FTL break? She usually only stops for no more than about a dozen hours, but from the amount of stuff being brought back from the planet, it looks more like she’s been there for days. I know that they can turn Destiny around nowadays but I seem to remember either Franklin or Gloria saying to Nick that tinkering with the countdown clock was very dangerous. And with the impending danger from the control ship and its drones, I doubt they would have allowed Destiny to jump at her normal time and then turned her around and brought her back to the colony.

This must be an incredibly productive planet – either that or the expedition are meekly handing over everything they own to their ancestors, but the amount of stuff being piled up around the Gate for transfer to Destiny boggled my mind. And Ellie even says, “We’re surviving, but just barely,” so how on earth can they spare so much?

What happened to Varro after the evacuation from alt-Destiny? Why did his and TJ’s fledgling relationship fail so that she went back to Young?

As the evacuees are running for the planet’s Stargate while the drones are doing strafing runs, there’s the worst visual stunt that I’ve ever seen in fourteen years of Stargate. A shot comes down from behind a running person and as it impacts the ground, that stuntperson is yanked sideways so blatantly that you can almost see where the cables have been painted out. It doesn’t help that the stuntperson is going in the wrong bloody direction: why would they fly sideways if the blast came from behind?! I don’t know what the vis effects people were thinking.

Once they’ve worked out that the command ship is tracking Destiny because of their use of the Stargate, Nick says that they can use the shuttle to collect supplies for the moment. That’s going to slow them down considerably: if Destiny drops out within Gateable reach of a planet, that planet is at least one solar system away and, because they can’t keep jumping in and out of FTL, they’re going to have to fly at sub-light speeds to get within shuttle distance. That’s going to take ages unless they can persuade Destiny to exit FTL closer to any viable planet.

I don’t know enough about genetics but I do wonder whether eighty people could have produced a viable group of intelligent offspring, what with all the in-breeding. Combine that with how useless they have seemed on occasion while on Destiny, with people like Gale/Morrison being bone idle and unwilling to co-operate with anything, and the fact that their knowledge and expertise was fairly limited, could they really have developed a huge modern city in just two thousand years? For that matter, how were they making button-down shirts and other really modern looking clothing after just ten years?

What the heck are Jason and Ellie doing on the first recon flight? They’ve never even been to Novus; wouldn’t it be kinder to take some of the others who used to live there and who will be keen to see if their homeworld has survived?


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 5:42 am:

What happened to Varro after the evacuation from alt-Destiny? Why did his and TJ’s fledgling relationship fail so that she went back to Young?

Maybe something happened to him. Perhaps we'll find out in the follow up episode.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 8:09 am:

I thought Camille was a lesbian, but the scene with Yaozu made it seem like he was alt-Camille's descendent.
True, it's not an impossible situation, it just seemed odd.


By Callie (Csullivan) on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 12:52 pm:

I think a lot of us made the automatic assumption that because Yaozu was named after her father and spoke Cantonese, he must be a direct descendant of hers, but she's not the only Oriental-looking person on the crew; and Eli's grandson was called Matthew after - presumably - Matt Scott, so names didn't just stay with one particular lineage. But I am just as guilty of having wondered whether Camille had had her own children until somebody on Gateworld pointed out that it wasn't necessarily the case.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 3:48 am:

Oh, yeah, there's multiple possibilities: some other parent just liking the name; artificial insemination; rape; loneliness causing her to "lower her standards" & hook up with a man...
I just think it would have worked better to have avoided the puzzlement by having someone else do the "That's my father's name!" scene. Maybe a member of the Lutian Alliance?


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 12:18 am:

Could be.


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