Yeah! Finally the Andorians are back! I mean, geez, they're suppsoed to be one of the five founding races of the Federation (them, Humans, Vulcans, Tellarites, and Alpha Centuarians).
Oh really. And where exactly was this ever stated in any episode of Star Trek?
Rene,
I'm not sure where, but I've heard this before also. Is it in the TOS ep something something Babel, something? (You know, the episode with Sarek where we learn Spock joined Starfleet to T-off his old man but gives him a emergency transfusion and Sarek says his marriage to Amanda seemed logical at the time.)
It's not canon, it comes from the TOS "Star Trek StarFleet Technical Manual".
William, the ep is "Journey To Babel", and that's where we meet the Andorians and the Tellarites, but it's never stated that they are founding members. Incidentally, the fact that you mention the Centaurians (?) indicates that you're working from the Tech Manual. We never saw them on TOS.
The Alpha Centauians are a near-human/human stock species originating on a planet in a figure eight orbit within the alpha centaurus star system. They are a highly paranoid race that lives underground and has all of their communications running through shielded cables to keep outsiders from learning about them. This is the location where Zephram Cochrane relocated his laboritories to after humans made first contact several years previously. (one theory put forth in the techmanual) Other theory is that this is the Alpha Centauri colonies that established independence from Earth and then helped found the Federation along with the Earth, Andor, Tellar and Vulcan.
Oh and I have given up on this show. It just is not living up to its potential.
Oh...so I guess TNG, TOS and DS9 reached their potential after only four episodes, huh?
With TOS The best stuff was in Season 1.
BTW, according to SFB Alpha Centuari is a Matriarchal empire. :-)
It was a good idea but bad follow through. The others did have hope after four episodes. I liked DS9 from the begining. TNG had a cool premiere and hooked me. This is my personl opinoin. I am either hooked by the first few shows or am not. I liked Andromeda from the first two episodes and still put things off to watch it. The first episode of Stargate SG-1 caught me (although here recently I'm not as thrilled.) EFC was cool at first but I never got excited about it and am now repulsed by it. Babylon 5 hooked me with the very first episode (after the premiere movie) Enterprise just is not gripping me. I am very ungripped. To quote a character from another one of my favorites. Your milage may vary but for me Enterprise just is not that wonderul, exciting or interesting at this time. I may check back on it later, I may not. I don't know. It just feels like same old same old brainless formula tv. Not to say that a standard formula can be done well, its just that Enterprise hasn't. IN MY OPINION. Just what I have to say. Good day.
I love dumb people. They're so amusing.
TUE
A bit defensive, isn't he?
Yah but thats his opinion.
Sorry about yesterday. It was not a good day at work and I was a bit grumpy.
According to Roxann Dawson (who directed this episode), the Andorians are slated to be a recurring race on Enterprise and Jeffrey Combs will probably be back as one of them.
See ya later
TUE
PAL. I believe the preview states that the Andorians haven't been seen since the original series. In NextGen's The Offspring we do see an image of an Andorian female. (One of the forms Lal considered.)
NNAN. The Andorians are not wearing the standard Andorian uniform from Classic Trek. Possibly it's just a change in fashion over a 100 years, but the outfits seen in the preview look more modern than the Classic Trek outfits. (Were Andorians going through a retro phase?)
Tellar, Andor, Earth, Vulcan and Benegaria were named as founding members of the Federation canonically in the DS9 episode "In the Cards" by Kai Winn. She is discussing with Sisko whether or not Bajor should sign the non-aggression pact with the DOminion. She says if there is a war could Sisko guarantee that Bajor would be protected even if the founding members of the Federation were at risk and she named the above.
I might add that this epsiode was written by none other than Ron D. Moore.
She never called them the founder members of the Federation.
We also saw Andorians in STIV:TVH, don't remember if we saw them in STVI.
We saw one Andorian in the Rec Room scene in "The Motion Picture." His antennae were modified, made thinner and bug-like. If you blinked, you missed him.
Wasn't there an Andorian in "Captain's Holiday"?
If it was Ron Moore who wrote it, chances are he was trying to incorporate Treklore into the series. He has done it before. This is the man who used revived TAS from the void.
TNG's best season was the third.
Voyager didn't pick it up until "Scorpion" came along.
DS9 became good after the Defiant came along.
And yes, TOS's best season was the first.
TNG began to get on track in its third season. However, my two faves ("Tapestry" and "Relics") are sixth season episodes. (Both written by Ronald D. Moore, BTW)