Dawn

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Enterprise: Season Two: Dawn

Production Credits
Written by: John Shiban
Directed by: Roxann Dawson

Guest Cast
Brad Greenquist: Khata'n Zshaar
Gregg Henry: Zho'Kaan
By Zul on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 9:19 pm:

An ok episode but way too many similarities to TNG's "The Enemy" Those Arkonian guys remind me of the Tosk race from DS9 in appearance.


By Dan Gunther on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 3:25 pm:

I rather enjoyed the episode. Reminicent of "The Enemy," as Zul stated, but still well done. I enjoyed Trip's reminiscing about his past experiences during his tour aboard the Enterprise. I did, however, notice that the Arkonian Scout was a reuse of the shuttle from Voyager's "Alice." However, this is somewhat understandable as it is the only other small vehicle that has a full-size mock-up. All in all, a good episode. I will definitely continue to watch!


By Chris Booton (Cbooton) on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 3:53 pm:

How is you two are seeing the episode before it airs?


By Bizarro on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 5:05 pm:

Me am Superman!


By elwood on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 6:52 pm:

I saw it already too (more than 12 hours ago)
but I wait till everybody saw it before spoiling here. So please fellow BT users... ;-)


By SMT on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 7:07 pm:

The Arkonians are a territorial species. The Vulcans have had dealings with them for a century, and not on the best of terms. You'd think the Vulcans would have a map of Arkonian territory, to avoid unnecessary future confrontations. If so, shouldn't Enterprise, going off into territory uncharted to them, have been given access to said map, so they would avoid running afoul of them? And wouldn't this be the case for a number of other species Enterprise might unintentionally offend with their presence? Wonder why the Vulcans are holding back ...


By Influx on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 7:09 pm:

Beam. Something. Down!!!!!


By Bluegoing to bed really ma Berry on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 7:18 pm:

I liked this episode. I liked the idea that the humans proved better than the Vulcans, However, like Influx above I was screaming beam down water or shelter or Margolian mucus pods from Phlox's collection.


By The Undesirable Element on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 7:21 pm:

QUOTE OF THE WEEK:
"Dammit" -- Zho'Kaan's first word of English

All in all, not too bad.

I don't know if anyone else saw the movie "Enemy Mine" but this seemed to be very much like it. Even the alien had a point on the back of his head.

The episode also reminded me of TNG's "The Enemy", TNG's "Darmok", and DS9's "The Ascent".

The Arkonians look like a cross between the Tosk character from DS9's "Captive Pursuit" and the Voth from VOY's "Distant Origin"

The mountain that Trip and Zho'Kaan climb doesn't seem very large. Is it really feasible that this slight distance (in relation to the size of the whole planet) could have such a large impact on how well the transmission is sent?

When Trip decides to stay with Zho'Kaan, why doesn't Archer beam down a few jugs of water and some of that alien slop that Zho'Kaan was drinking? Maybe a nice umbrella or a tarp could have been helpful as well.

Why aren't there phase pistols in the shuttle?

Other episodes establish that there is a universal translator in the communicator. Why would Trip go on a mission without a phase pistol or a communicator?

Perhaps Trip could have set up the shuttlepod's engine to explode and then gotten a good distance away. According to "Shuttlepod One", the Enterprise's sensors could detect this from a pretty good distance.

Why wasn't the Enterprise in close proximity during Trip's little test? What if something about the autopilot test had gone wrong?

When T'Pol identified the ship as Arkonian, why didn't she move so that the alien captain couldn't see her. She knew of the hostility that the Arkonians have toward Vulcans.

Is there anyone the Vulcans HAVEN'T pissed off?

Still a good episode. It'll hold me over until the next string of new ones.

TUE


By PaulG on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 7:31 pm:

Pretty good. Reminds me of “Enemy Mine”.

I question the reasoning that allows Trip to go out and test the new autopilot by himself. If the autopilot had a catastrophic malfunction, it was possible that Trip would need someone to pilot the ship while he tried to turn the darn thing off. He shouldn’t have been alone. Then again, if he isn’t alone, we don’t really have a plot.

And I wonder what happened to the shuttle. Please, let's not restart the Voyager infinite shuttle thing.

Not necessarily a nit, but I am curious how Trip determined that the outside atmosphere on the moon was breathable while still inside his shuttle. He says that main power was down.

I understand why Trip refused to be beamed up. I do not understand why Archer then didn’t just BEAM DOWN supplies to help Archer and friend. Water, ice, anything to provide shade, food for Zocan, sunscreen, etc. would have increased their survivability by leaps and bounds. Maybe Dr. Phlox could have made a house call?


By elwood on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 8:53 pm:

My thoughts are already mentioned,
but I saw it before you did, so ;-)

Why there was no phase pistol in the pod bothered me too. (Maybe Reed forgot about safety procedures?)

It indeed reminded of Enemy Mine!
I waited the whole time for that Arkonian to get pregnant. =)
The alien looks similar, talks similar, has similar physiology (sort of amphibian)...

Yeah, beaming down some stuff would've been a great idea.

To the mountain thing TUE brought up:

It's not the distance, but the place between the these rocks was "bad". ("Vulcanic terrain...magnetic minerals...something laike that.)


By Josh M on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 9:07 pm:

Pretty good episode. I liked the fact that Trip didn't get along with his fellow marooned until they were dying and had smacked each other around.

The Arkonians are a territorial species. The SMT: Vulcans have had dealings with them for a century, and not on the best of terms. You'd think the Vulcans would have a map of Arkonian territory, to avoid unnecessary future confrontations. If so, shouldn't Enterprise, going off into territory uncharted to them, have been given access to said map, so they would avoid running afoul of them?
It's possible that this territory is became Arkonian relatively recently.

TUE: Those were the same exact episodes I was reminded of as I watched it.

TUE: Why aren't there phase pistols in the shuttle?
Good question. While they only have 16 overall (for a crew of 83), it's always good to arm themselves. Especially when it's this crew. Even Reed and Trip had one in their trip in Shuttlepod One.

TUE: Other episodes establish that there is a universal translator in the communicator. Why would Trip go on a mission without a phase pistol or a communicator?
I guess the same reason he didn't think that he'd need a phase pistol. He didn't anticipate any contact with other beings and he already has a comm system on the pod.

TUE: When T'Pol identified the ship as Arkonian, why didn't she move so that the alien captain couldn't see her. She knew of the hostility that the Arkonians have toward Vulcans.
Doesn't seem like a very Vulcan (or T'Pol-like) action to do. Then again, that's just my opinion.

PaulG: And I wonder what happened to the shuttle. Please, let's not restart the Voyager infinite shuttle thing.
It was Shuttlepod One. That's the pod that is ususally featured on this show. Hopefully, the Arkonians recovered it for them. Or maybe the transporter can take the entire thing (probably not).


By ScottN on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 11:06 pm:

The mountain that Trip and Zho'Kaan climb doesn't seem very large. Is it really feasible that this slight distance (in relation to the size of the whole planet) could have such a large impact on how well the transmission is sent?

Ever try to receive broadcast TV in a small valley? Hills aren't too big, but... Plus, the minerals in the rock were interfering. Go higher, you get better line-of-sight.


By Blue Berry on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 2:58 am:

PaulG,

While picking a place to crash land Trup picked a place with a breathable atmosphere.

The whole lost shuttle thing is a load of garbage. Did you guys really want a Voyager episode where Ensign Kim directs shuttle recovery? And in plot B, using replicated parts and what was salvaged Ensign Vorik builds a new shuttle. That would've been a boring episode.

Here it is doubtful the Arkonians would give them their shuttle back and they are really limited in replication abilities. I'd like to see them start using "shuttle pod two". (Anyone counting? that would be about 1 per season so far. Do you think they might have a few spares?)


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 4:48 am:

Not an ep, Blue, just the occasional line to indicate it had happened.

I liked how they had Archer deal with the other captain. He seemed far more professional than previous eps.

Not only did this moon have a breathable atmosphere, it also had a Earthlike gravity. Now I have heard of the possibility that some gas giants might be large enough to have an Earth size moon orbiting, so it's not necasarily a nit, but it does seem awfully convenient.

Dawn on a moon orbiting a gas giant... that just sounded odd to me. First off we have the moon's rotation (unknown), then we have the fact that it is orbiting a gas giant which is orbiting the star. When the moon is on the backside of the planet it would be night regardless of which way the moon is facing & on the dayside of the planet wouldn't the 'darkside' of the moon be illuminated by reflected light from the surface of the gas giant?

Speaking of which were there any shots of the gas giant in the moon's sky? (Didn't think to look while the show was on.)

They are worried about the temperature rising while the moon is in sunlight. I wondered if maybe Enterprise could reorient itself to try and 'eclipse' the star with the saucer section and give Trip some shade? Although thinking it over I wondered how close to the moon's surface would Enterprise have to fly so the Saucer would be big enough to to do this.

Watching this ep with Trip having trouble communicating reminded me of Precious Cargo because I thought that episode might be more interesting if Trip & the Princess didn't understand each other. (Well, at least we didn't have to watch Trip & Zho'Kaan kiss after fighting.)


By TJFleming on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 7:01 am:

Overall, one of the better ones.

Glad to see they solved the problem of continually coming up with names for new elements: just pretend that existing elements (selenium, e.g.) have ISOTOPES. Limitless possibilities. (BTW, T'Pol, only GNC clerks pronounce it with a short e.)

Trouble with street-fighting an alien: you can't know where to kick him.

KAM: . . . some gas giants might be large enough to have an Earth size moon orbiting/ Dawn on a moon orbiting a gas giant... that just sounded odd to me.

:: Me too. And just how close could this gas giant be to its sun? I don't think Jupiter's moons ever get very warm.

So how hot does Trip's moon get? Elemental selenium in the atmosphere would liquify at 217C, and presumably precipitate out.


By Ed Watson on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 7:42 am:

A quick skim of the posts so far shows that at least some people liked this episode.

Well, maybe I just wasn't in the right frame of mind last night, but I did something I have never done before. I turned off an episode of Star Trek. I've been watching this franchise since I was old enough to watch TV. I even stuck with Voyager when many didn't care for it. Last night however, I just couldn't take it anymore.

Trip is sitting there next to his camp fire and hears a noise. At first he only looks around. Did he forget that he was already attacked? I'm thinking, "pick up the phase pistol, pick up the phase pistol". Then when he hears the second noise, he reaches over and picks up ..... some TOOL that he was using. It was about 18" long and made of metal. I squint a little bit, wondering what it is I'm missing. Then it slowly starts to dawn on me. He doesn't HAVE a phase pistol. In fact, he has NO weapons at all!!! You mean he went on this mission with no weapons? Then only a few minutes later, I hear trip say into his log recorder something like, "Wish I had a Universal Translator so I could talk to the guy." That was it. He's down on this moon with nothing but his male reproductive organ in his hands and apparantly, this is for no other reason than the old lame, "it would be a short show" excuse.

I can't nitpick the rest of the show because at that point, I turned it off and went to bed.

Note to TPTB: This is one life long trekkie that you are about to lose permanantly.


By Influx on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 7:57 am:

There were some things I liked about this episode, but, like Ed, there were too many "caggage-head" moments to make it real.

Shouldn't shuttles be equipped with survival gear? Perhaps a spacesuit? Even some heat-reflective cloth?

There were 62 moons. (Oh, why not 47?) Would they have had a better chance looking at the ones that were capable of supporting life? And both of them were pretty lucky to land on that particular one, only a few hundred meters (assumed) apart.

Trip is fixing his stuff outside, on a planet that supports potentially hostile life. If he's freezing his butt off, why not stay inside the shuttle? Oh, right. Even though the power's off, he has no standalone heater.

The fight between the two was a classic Kirk-fight, even down to the music. I was waiting for Trip to do the double-flying side drop kick.

If a hostile person gives you something to drink that you can't see, wouldn't you sniff it first instead of taking a big old swig?


By Sparrow47 on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 8:23 am:

So, I was going to post this last night but for some reason, every time I hit the "Post" button... nothing happened. With that in mind...

Hey, not a bad episode! The main similarity I caught was to "The Enemy," but I agree with TUE that there were elements of "The Ascent" and "Darmok" in there as well. While normall plot recycling has been a major problem for Enterprise, I thought that this episode stood on its own faiirly well. And it didn't depend on people being stupid! (Okay, we could wonder why the Enterprise didn't beam anything down, but still...)

What I liked about this episode is that it showed a marked improvement for Trip. Towards the end of the episode, he had to really work at getting Zocan's trust, and he never gave up. And we went the entire episode without hearing "What's that supposed to mean?"

My only nit at present is that only Zocan seemed concerned with getting some shade. Why didn't they move around to the other side of that rock?

Oh, and one more thing- after the fight, when Trip threw the phaser away the second time, we got a nice high shot of the terrain... and that set looked F-A-K-E!

Now, speaking of the fight, I really liked it. Both Trip and Zocan pulled off some great moves (Trip seemed particuarly adept at his throws). And the way they simultaneously ran out ofsteam was a nice touch.

Oh, and I am duty-bound to report that my girlfriend really liked Trip's line- "Why don't you vomit on it and it'll fix itself?" (or whatever it was)

Uh, that's all for now... Maybe I'll have something else later.


By ScottN on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 10:52 am:

Dawn on a moon orbiting a gas giant... that just sounded odd to me

What? There's dawn on Earth's moon... happens every 28 days or so. Same thing for the Jovian moons, they're tide-locked to Jupiter, so there would be dawn once per orbit.

Depending on the distance to the planet, it wouldn't block out the star, but the planet not being a prominent part of the skyscape is a nit... Earth is 2 degrees wide from Luna. A gas giant should be several degrees wide from one of its moons.


By margie on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 11:50 am:

I liked this episode, although, like some of the others mentioned, it reminded me of "Darmok". I especially liked how Zho'Kaan indicated "yes" by jerking his head to the side, instead of nodding. Finally, an alien who doesn't have human mannerisms!
I thought for a second that Zho'Kaan was going to call Trip "Dammit" for the rest of the show, but luckily I was mistaken.
Did Trip have some kind of portable light source with him? If not, it could explain why he was sitting outside the pod when he was attacked. He needed light to see the thingy he was fixing. (my brain just turned to mush-I can't remember what he was working on! Yikes!)


By Sparrow47 on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 12:02 pm:

Mighty convenient that given the general Arkonian attitude of agressiveness in this episode, Zocan's phaser was set to stun, or that indeed his phaser had a stun setting!


By Hans Thielman on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 12:14 pm:

A universal translator should be standard equipment in a shuttle.


By ScottN on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 12:22 pm:

margie, he had a flashlight of some sort (when he went off looking for Zho'Kaan). But he was sitting by the fire for heat/warmth (as well as light), IMO.


By Josh M on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 12:42 pm:

KAM: Dawn on a moon orbiting a gas giant... that just sounded odd to me. First off we have the moon's rotation (unknown), then we have the fact that it is orbiting a gas giant which is orbiting the star. When the moon is on the backside of the planet it would be night regardless of which way the moon is facing & on the dayside of the planet wouldn't the 'darkside' of the moon be illuminated by reflected light from the surface of the gas giant?
Only if there is a lunar eclipse. I don't know how many there are with gas giants but with the Moon and Earth, they don't happen very often.


By ScottN on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 2:52 pm:

Sorry, Josh, but "Earthlight" is common on Luna's Nearside during local lunar night.


By ScottN on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 2:53 pm:

Anti-nit to my previous nit about the gas giant not being in the sky:

Assuming the moon is tidelocked -- a reasonable assumption -- they landed on the farside.


By Influx on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 4:11 pm:

A scene I wanted to see: The alien captain asks Archer if he will now leave the system as he promised, and Archer does the alien tilt-head motion indicating "Yes". (They had been in contact long enough for Archer to learn this, and it might have helped with the positive relations if he showed that he was learning something from them.)


By Electron on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 6:02 pm:

I especially liked how Zho'Kaan indicated "yes" by jerking his head to the side, instead of nodding. Finally, an alien who doesn't have human mannerisms!

Margie, I believe there are even in Europe still some cultures who don't go with the common nod scheme. But they will be assimilated one day! And then aliens are the only ones with strange mannerisms.

Oh, and - Arkonians? Is this Star Trek or Perry Rhodan?


By Obi-Juan on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 7:10 pm:

Perhaps Trip could have set up the shuttlepod's engine to explode and then gotten a good distance away. According to "Shuttlepod One", the Enterprise's sensors could detect this from a pretty good distance. TUE

Probably not a good idea. Tucker could easily estimate the size of the blast the shuttle would make, but he probably didn't have much to use to control the timing with main power out and no weapons. Unless he took a long walk to scout the local terrain, he couldn't guarantee that he'd reach minimum safe distance before the blast.

Lots of comments about the lack of weapons and a translator on the shuttle, but I'm more shocked at the lack of water! Tucker drains a liter bag at the end of the episode, about 12 hours after he crashes. US military soldiers carry that much water at all times when walking in a camp in a desert environment. Military vehicles typically carry enough water for a maximum load of passengers to last days. You'd think the shuttles would have a compartment under the rear bench to store spacesuits, cases of food/water, extra communicators, the older laser pistols, tools, etc.


By Josh M on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 9:19 pm:

ScottN: Sorry, Josh, but "Earthlight" is common on Luna's Nearside during local lunar night.

Okay. How does that affect my point? I was telling KAM why it's not always night when the Moon is on the planet's backside.


By Steve Oostrom on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 10:21 pm:

Okay, an episode that has some questionable aspects to it. The obvious ones were mentioned. Why are there no phase pistols on the shuttle? Why did Archer not beam down water and other essentials? Why did the alien ship crash? It shot down the shuttlepod. Did the alien follow the shuttlepod in to confirm the kill? Wouldn't the alien pilot know the risk of this, or did he think he had one of those modified shuttles?

I was wondering about the concept here, about the extreme temperature variations on this planet. It is apparently Earth-sized, and has Earth-strength gravity. It has vegetation too. However, given the temperature range, from -5 at night to 150 or so in the daytime (I am assuming these are Celsius), the daytime temperature is above the boiling point of water. The plants must have some rather impressive biological adaptations to survive here. Given the substantial atmosphere, the circulation patterns should help dampen out the temperature differences, leading to strong flows from the hot side to the cold side.

One possible explanation is that the gas giant orbits the star closely (this is possible, astronomers are starting to find such planets by detecting wobbles in nearby stars, and gas giants close to stars produce the biggest wobbles). The moon orbits the gas giant and is tidally locked. The day is as long as the orbit around the planet, and this could be many days long. The dawn seemed to arrive slowly, suggesting a day much longer than 24 hours. The long day could lead to high temperatures, but not so high that early in the day. On the other hand, the long night would produce tempeatures much colder than -5 or -10.

The gas giant had sixty-two moons. The majority of them would be small. Jupiter has four large moons, and many small ones, and this gas giant should be similar. Only some were large enough to be class-M, so realistically, the ship should check those first, and then move on to the smaller moons, where survival would be less likely.

Given the nature of shuttles and their missions, shouldn't there be stand-alone communications equipment on board powerful enough to reach the ship in an emergency?

One thing I liked, the fact that without the universal translator, the Arkonian and Trip never could communicate with each other. Throughout the history of Trek, there have been stories where human meets alien with no possibility of a UT around, but the aliens still appear to speak English. The way it was done here is more realistic.


By elwood on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 7:56 am:

Did the alien follow the shuttlepod in to confirm the kill? Wouldn't the alien pilot know the risk of this, or did he think he had one of those modified shuttles?

I think this star system was recently occupied by the Arkonians. That would explain,
why they didn't know about the threat to engines.
Also explains why T'Pol didn't know about this from vulcan star maps.


By Influx on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 8:02 am:

Forgive me, but doesn't Trip look somewhat less "buff" than he did at the start of the series (specifically recalling the gel scene in the initial episode)?

Poor Travis -- here he has more lines about him than he actually gets to say himself! Granted, Hoshi and Malcolm only got a couple lines each, but at least they've each had more than one character-specific episode dedicated to them.

Nice continuity with Trip talking about all the other alien species he's met.

I will be real interested in seeing if they explain how they got the shuttle back. They couldn't modify the engines, and I don't think they have a tractor beam. If it is not explained, I guess we'd have to assume that the aliens helped somehow.


By Influx on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 8:11 am:

Also, I'd think Phlox would want a sample of Zho'Kaan's spit, as it appears to have magnificent healing properties. Perhaps eventually good relations were established, leading to the development of the dermal regenerator.


By Josh Gould-DS9 Moderator (Jgould) on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 10:47 am:

A passably executed, if extremely derivative, episode. Similar to both "The Enemy" and "Darmok," only without the same impact or depth.

That said, I wasn't watching closely enough to pick up that many nits, but did that set ever look fake! My dad remarked that the "sky" looked all too much like a big yellow curtain. It occurs to me now that Enterprise hasn't really had all that much location photography - even a similar TOS episode like "Arena" was shot on location. Hmm.


By Darth Sarcasm on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 11:53 am:

I don't understand the confusion about dawn breaking on a moon. Say the moon is in a position equivalent to our own half-moon. Wouldn't there then be a part of the moon bathed in sunlight, a smaller part exposed to just Earthlight, and a part in complete darkness?


By Zul on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 2:01 pm:

>How is you two are seeing the episode before it airs? - CBooton

Here where I live, Enterprise airs on Tuesdays on the A-Channel network in Alberta, Canada


By Dan Gunther on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 2:59 am:

>How is you two are seeing the episode before it airs? - CBooton

>Here where I live, Enterprise airs on Tuesdays on the A-Channel network in Alberta, Canada - Zul

Me too, I'm living in Edmonton Alberta, going to the University of Alberta, and we get the pleasure of seeing Enterprise on Tuesday nights at 8:00 mountain time.


By Zul on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 10:20 pm:

Cool, I'm in Edm too at the U of A


By KAM on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 5:06 am:

Sarcasm, I didn't say confused, I said it seems odd.
Where I live dawn is a simple & regular occurence. Once a day the sky lightens and the sun appears to rise. (Then we sacrifice a goat, but that's neither here nor there.)
Anyway when they mentioned dawn on a moon I thought about some of the additional complexities that that would entail.
Assuming that the moon isn't tidelocked, you would have rotations without a dawn when the moon is in the planet's umbra. (Okay, I forgot the Earth's poles don't always have a dawn once a rotation either, but I don't live at the poles.)
Then when the moon is between the sun & the planet, and depending on the relative sizes of the planet & moon and the reflectivity of the planet, the 'nightside' of the moon could be lit up with a light as bright as dawn or even day.
All that had me wondering if dawn was the correct term or not.


By ScottN on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 3:36 pm:

The moon was the moon of a gas giant, therefore I assumed it was tidelocked.


By Blue Gameranian on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 4:19 pm:

(Then we sacrifice a goat, but that's neither here nor there.) -- KAM

That the point KAM! How will you heathens ever understand it when you don't the sun wants Llamas?:) (but without cheese)


By Steve Oostrom on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 10:05 pm:

All that had me wondering if dawn was the correct term or not... KAM

I think we can safely assume that the moon is tidally locked around the gas giant and the two shuttlecraft crashed on the far side. Afterall, if they crashed on the side facing the planet, the powers that be should have blown some of the special effects budget on at least one shot showing the gas giant in the sky.


By Trike on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 2:38 am:

There were two major nits that I recall. The big one, why wasn't anything beamed down, was noticed quickly. The other wasn't.

I kept thinking about, how through many of the early Enterprise episodes, there would always be scenes in caves, scenes underground, that the show must have built this huge cave set for alien worlds. And here, in the one show where two people desparately need shelter, there are no caves to be found! It seemed really ironic to me.

More nits and notes:

-- Trip and his friend stay on the ledge after making contact with Enterprise, rather than, as I mentioned, seeking shelter or at least seeing if there's a shaded location ... anywhere.

Further, because a shuttle would have to be sent to rescue them, why didn't they head to a likely landing site. It's not going to be on the side of a hill.

-- This is me speaking to my television: "Oh, now they're fighting! ... All right. Good move Trip! ... Now the alien's got the upper hand. ... Huh. They're still fighting. ... OK. This would be a good to end the fight. ... Uh, can we please just do a quick cut to the end of the fight? ... The fight scene has gone on long enough now. ... We can stop the fight scene now. ... Any time now. ... Ah. Thanks for listening."

-- The aliens didn't have the medical facilities to treat their pilot themselves? Why would they turn the pilot over to Phlox rather than one of their own?

-- Once again, kudos to Roxanne Dawson, my favorite Enterprise director. But I'm sorry, Roxanne, you're still not my favorite Star Trek engineer.

-- This story was weak, derivative (again) and not a sign that the show is shaking its writing slump. Plus, Trip going around bare-chested just seems to another sign of the direction this show is headed in, a bad one.


By Blue Berry on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 2:55 am:

I agree, Dawson appears to be the best director on Enterprise (no she is not great, but the others are so bad...)


By TJFleming on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 7:16 am:

Phlox says something about Zocan being dehydrated. How does that work if, as Trip points out, Zocan can't sweat? Is he cooked?


By ScottN on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 9:13 am:

-- Trip and his friend stay on the ledge after making contact with Enterprise, rather than, as I mentioned, seeking shelter or at least seeing if there's a shaded location ... anywhere.

I think that Zho'kann, at least, was too weak to move. Trip was getting there too.


By Trike on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 11:50 am:

Geez, I completely forgot one of my better nits: When talking to Enterprise, Trip says Arconian even though he hadn't been told that was the name of the alien species.


By Josh Gould-DS9 Moderator (Jgould) on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 1:15 pm:

I agree, Dawson appears to be the best director on Enterprise (no she is not great, but the others are so bad...)

Don't forget Mike Vejar! :)


By Obi-Juan on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 7:24 pm:

Further, because a shuttle would have to be sent to rescue them, why didn't they head to a likely landing site. It's not going to be on the side of a hill. -Trike

Trip and Zho'kann had to lug the transmitter to high ground to contact Enterprise, because the low ground blocked their signal. Better to find a shady spot on high ground so they could stay in touch with the rescue shuttle, find out where they would land, etc.

Nice catch on Trip using the Arconian species name!


By Influx on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 7:31 am:

Better to find a shady spot on high ground so they could stay in touch with the rescue shuttle, find out where they would land, etc.

Yes, that would have made sense, if they perched on the rock on the opposite side of where the sun came up!


By Darth Sarcasm on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 5:56 pm:

When talking to Enterprise, Trip says Arconian even though he hadn't been told that was the name of the alien species. - Trike

Perhaps T'Pol provided him with information on the region and the name of the Arconians appeared in Trip's padd. And he simply figured out through a simple keyword search... "aggressive species, poison spit, healing vomit"


By Heyst on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 3:42 pm:

Did anyone recognize Zho'kann as Rua'fo's sidekick in Insurrection? I thought I had heard the voice before, but didn't know for sure until seeing Gregg Henry's name above


By Anonymous on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 6:47 pm:

When I first saw the Arkonian, I thought of that fellow at Starfleet HQ in "The Voyage Home" who reported some of the cloud cover readings while the probe was vaporizing the oceans. Both Zho'kann and the Starfleet operative had a pointed back to the head. He's sitting at the console in the middle of the room when Cartwright is told that Admiral Kirk is hailing them.

However, the Starfleet operative, if I recall, didn't have as "busy" a face.

I, too, wondered why they didn't beam down water to Trip and Zho'kann. A shelter would have been nice, or a good umbrella and some sort of infusion device to rehydrate Zho'kann.

If the Arkonians have tractor beams (when ARE the Vulcans going to "declassify" some of their technologies?! In 2161 (nine years away yet)? I only speculate because it might have taken a tractor beam to pull the shuttlepod out of there. One presumes that the Arkonian ship would also have been pulled out. In any case, if the shuttlepod was recovered, it may be under repair.

Enterprise NX-01 might have a room where they're working on Pod 1. Also possible, given that Enterprise was headed out far from any supply base, and would be using shuttles so often that the risk of loss is higher, that they might actually be carrying parts for two or three pods to assemble. I recall a 1970s or 1980s TV commercial showing how one van could be disassembled and fit inside another van of the exact same model. (That was before minivans.)

Geoff Capp


By Josh M on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 1:31 am:

Trip and his friend stay on the ledge after making contact with Enterprise, rather than, as I mentioned, seeking shelter or at least seeing if there's a shaded location ... anywhere.
They looked pretty worn out. Maybe they just didn't have the strength left to get back up.

Though Influx has a great point.


By Scott McClenny on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 12:42 pm:

Saw it for the first time yesterday.

So they decided to make an episode where Trip is forced to babysit Buffy's kid sister.LOL!!!!:)
(Ok,just thought I'd put in a little Buffy humor there.)

Seriously folks:One of the interesting aspects of this episode is that Trip and the Arkonsian pilot are forced to learn to communicate.There is no UT and not even Hoshi's around to help translate,so Trip has to learn how to communicate with the Arkonsian on his own.
Another is the fact that when Trip tastes the
Arkonsian drink he immediately spits it out because it is unpalatable to human taste.This makes sense since the Arkonsian has an entirely different biochemistry from Trip(or maybe it's an
acquired taste).
I think Connor Trineer did a great job of carrying the episode which was for a change centered mainly around his character instead of
having to share it with Scott Bakula's Archer.


By Electron on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 10:24 am:

Interesting NANJAO from the German dub: At one point Trip uses a riged PADD to lure Zho'Kaan away from his ship. It plays a recorded voice message including the infamous lamb poem. To announce the next poem they used the line "Noch'n Gedicht" (another poem). This was the famous catchphrase of comedian Heinz Erhardt. :)


By bran on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 9:22 pm:

We never actually see the giant planet, or the moon next to the planet, do we? We should have.


By John A. Lang on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 7:51 am:

NANJAO: This episode reminded me of "Enemy Mine"


By inblackestnight on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:11 am:

Ed: I've been watching this franchise since I was old enough to watch TV.
Watching television doesn't have an age requirement, despite what the FCC wants you to think.

Influx: Also, I'd think Phlox would want a sample of Zho'Kaan's spit, as it appears to have magnificent healing properties. Perhaps eventually good relations were established, leading to the development of the dermal regenerator.
I thought the very same thing, although I don't know how spit can be turned into a device that heals with an energy beam. The saliva also works the same way as the DR; the blood from Trip's cut also disappears.

Why is it that Enterprise has to tell Trip that "he has company", or the fact that he doesn't react until he's shot at? Doesn't the shuttle have sensors? Several times while fighting both Trip and the AOTW drops that weapon. This happens all the time on TV/movies but it's really not very feasable when you're trying to survive. Wouldn't it be easier on a jury-rigged transmitter to send a beacon instead of a voice message? The alien ship will eventually be reused as a Tellerite vessil.

Since the Arconians looked reptilian I assumed they were cold-blooded, and could withstand the heat better, but evidently I was wrong. So Arconians don't handle temperature change well. Why not turn up the heat around the transporter room? Also, why did Phlox take care of Zho'kann when he and Trip were picked up by one of their shuttles?


By ScottN (Scottn) on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 9:53 am:

When Trip establishes contact with Enterprise, and they realize they can't beam up Zho'Kaan, why doesn't Trip ask them to beam down water, a sunshade, and whatever the hell that Arkonian drink is called, instead of just suffering in the heat?


By ScottN (Scottn) on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 9:57 am:

Doh!! TUE made the same comment back on Jan 8 2003.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 10:59 am:

You should do what I do and read the posts BEFORE posting something.


By ScottN (Scottn) on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 9:04 am:

I scanned them briefly and missed it.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 1:06 pm:

Well, I won't be too smug about it, that happened to me too.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 12:16 am:

You can also use a Control F search and look for terms/names that would be used in describing a nit (and then learn someone managed to describe the nit without using those terms/names. "It featured that guy, with the funny shirt, and he was talking about that ship..." ;-))


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