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This is for discussion of general things about season four that don't relate to any particular episode.

I am really looking forward to season 4 now. I have read many an interview with Manny Coto, and this guy has such a devotion to the show and Star Trek history that it's almost inspiring. Even when his thoughts on chronology are questionable, he seems to have a great understanding of the spirit of the show, and that is 10 times more important.

Mr. Coto is now in charge of writing with Berman and Braga acting as supervisors. Coto comes up with the ideas and Berman and Braga either approve or disapprove of them. B&B now have no regular input in the development process. Now, I never really had a problem with B&B as writers, but I am very interested to see where Coto takes the season. He has promised to help Enterprise fulfill its potential.


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EPISODES:


"Storm Front, Parts 1 & 2": Sees the return of Silik, Daniels, and (supposedly), a resolution to the Temporal Cold War. (It looks pretty silly, actually, but it also looks very entertaining in a campy sort of way)

"Home": This one has me very interested. After a celebration in the crew's honor, a series of uncomfortable debriefings occur. Archer encounters an old flame, the current captain of the NX-02 Columbia, Captain Erika Hernandez. Since Tucker has no home to go back to, T'Pol invites him to Vulcan with her to meet his mother. While on Vulcan, we meet T'Pol's betrothed from "Breking the Ice," Koss. Somehow, a Vulcan wedding ceremony (heavily influenced by "Amok Time") will be featured.

"Borderland" and "CS-12": Two of the three episodes to deal with the Eugenics arc. Arik Soong (played by Brent Spiner), ancestor of Dr. Noonien Soong, brings several Eugenics embryos out of cold storage, but these supermen turn out to be trouble. They head to the Borderland (a region between the Klingon Empire and the Orion Syndicate) in order to start a war with the Klingons. J. G. Hertzler will apparently be playing a Klingon captain in the unnamed third part of this story arc.

The Vulcan Civil War: A man believing himself to be the reincarnation of Surak, leads a movement of Vulcans who believe that the Vulcan High Command has corrupted Vulcan society and taken it away from its passive and logical roots. Coto compares this story to the Protestant Reformation. This story arc will involve both the Andorians and the Romulans. This story arc also marks a huge character turning point for T'Pol.

Hope you're now as excited about S4 as I am.

TUE

I really do believe that Cato has come up with great storylines and I am eager to see how they turn out. I'm hesitant only because I'm not certain how good a storyteller he will turn out to be. I've not seen much of his work.

Here's hoping for the best.

Amazing... the things he's accomplished since moving out of O.J.'s house.

Oh... you mean Coto.

Trike: I really do believe that Cato has come up with great storylines and I am eager to see how they turn out.
Luigi Novi: Yeah, especially since getting out from under the Green Hornet's shadow.

sounds of crazy fighting

Relax, Cato, I will write the episode this week.

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F/X: Sound of Explosion....
"Curses, Foiled Again..."

No, really, I can't wait to see how Cato writes for Orcher, and T'Pal.

No, really, I can't wait to see how Cato writes for Orcher, and T'Pal.

Alien (to T'Pal): Does your dog bite?
T'Pal: No.
Porthos bites the alien
Alien: I thought you said your dog doesn't bite?
T'Pal: Zat ees not mah dog!

I'm basically watching the show to see how badly they continue to screw up Trek continuity.

Is it really true that B&B are developing a Starfleet Academy movie/show?

From what I'm reading, it looks like they might be correcting some of the supposed continuity gaffes... and without a reset button at that! Most notably, I've been reading interviews where Coto talks about a Vulcan Reformation with a Martin Luther-type leading the people back to the ways of Surak... explaining why ENT Vulcans are less enlightened than the ones we've been used to seeing. I think that's cool!

And now I scroll up and see that TUE already mentioned this... sorry, TUE.

Just heard about the episode with Brent Spiner playing Data's creator great-great-great-great-grandfather

::ducking:: look out Enterprise is jumping over that shark over there

Isn't there precident on Trek of actors playing their usual character's ancestors?

Besides, its Brent Spiner, its not like he's gonna do a bad job acting

Isn't there precident on Trek of actors playing their usual character's ancestors?

You mean like Ms. Blalock playing T'Mir in Carbon Creek?

What about Michael Dorn playing one of Worf's ancestors in STAR TREK: The Undiscovered Country? (Although it was never stated that the Klingon defense lawyer was Worf's great-grandfather, or whatever he was supposed to be...)

Live long and prosper.

Kate Mulgrew played Janeway's ancestor in an episode as well. And while not an ancestor, Shatner played his own (dead) brother once.

Although it was never stated that the Klingon defense lawyer was Worf's great-grandfather, or whatever he was supposed to be...

He is credited as "Col. Worf". That's a pretty strong indicator.

Avoiding the spoilers above -- When is the first episode on?

October 8, I believe.

He is credited as "Col. Worf". That's a pretty strong indicator.

Nevermind credited as, the judge actually CALLS him Col. Worf at one point. The exact line, after he speculates in the trial that the assassins only wore Starfleet uniforms, is "Col. Worf, we are interested in facts, not theories!"

The question about Shatner being on Enterprise is so specific, it should be discussed under this topic, rather than having its own topic.
So that other topic should be deleted and its notes moved here. IMHO.
As for other things.
Nazi aliens have been done.
Where else could Archer have woken up?
In an igloo with Aztec warriors?

In the Sept. 19 TV Guide, which focuses on "Returning Favorites," the magazine reports that due to low ratings for last season, long story arcs have been scrapped in favor of self-contained stories. Me, I thought I heard that they were going to continue with arcs, albeit shorter ones, like three or four per season.

Also, Rick Berman is quoted saying, "We want to focus more on action and romance and less on technobabble." Why do they always say that? I mean, isn't that what they always say they're going to do to change Trek? Having they been doing that more and more since the beginning of Voyager's third season, saying they're going to put "more action" and more "humor" and more "romance/sex" into it? Well, what do they think Trek has been up until now? Masterpiece Theater? I mean, was the year-long Xindi arc really an introspective psychological drama?

I'd be shocked if one day Berman is quoted in a magazine as saying, "We're going to rehire some of the writers and producers from DS9 like Behr, Ecchevaria, Wolfe, Moore, etc.", or "We're going to do more theme-oriented stories," or "We're going to develop characters like Travis and Hoshi" or "We're going to try and make the next movie better-written, and stop ripping off themes from ST II."

I didn't see the Sept. 19 TV Guide. If Enterprise had low ratings, then why was it listed under Returning Favorites?

Because it's returning. And for those who watch it, it's on their list of shows to watch. I watch it, after all.

Other Anon, the word "favorites" is used loosely. Basically, the issue is about all network shows returning this fall.

Luigi:

Season 4 will still contain mostly 3-episode story arcs.

Episodes 1-3 apparently involve a resolution to the current Nazi crisis and the homecoming of the crew.
Episodes 4-6 are already announced as an arc involving eugenics and the Orion Syndicate.
Episodes 7-9 will also apparently be a separate arc involving the Vulcans.

See my original post for more details.

TUE

Here is the airdate schedule for the first 7 episodes of the fourth season:

1. Storm Front Friday, 10/08/04
2. Storm Front part II Friday, 10/15/04
3. Home Friday, 10/22/04
4. Borderland Friday, 10/29/04
5. Cold Station-12 Friday, 11/05/04
6. The Augments Friday, 11/12/04
7. The Forge Friday, 11/19/04

And while I do not know the title or air date of the eighth episode, the title of the ninth is Kir’Shara.

So, it's to be "Storm Front"? Woo-hoo! Back to the TCW, everyone!

Geez, the season 4 premiere doesn't even rate an ad in this week's TV Guide. No doubt an effect of the budget-tightening.

And the tenth episode will be called Daedalus.

As in Daedalus class starships?

I didn't read the plot details, as I avoid all such promos, previews, and other such spoilers. But it's on startrek.com, Chris, so if you go there and click on that link, it might indicate plot details.

Okay, episodes 8-10:

8. Awakening Friday, 11/26/04
9. Kir’Shara
10. Daedalus

VERY MINOR SPOILERS:

"Daedalus" deals with the inventor of the transporter.

TUE

I'll bet the Transporter has a malfunction

Just as a note to the Mod, for seasons 1-3 you spelled the season out (ie, one, two, three) but for season four, you used the numeral (ie 4). Might be more consistent to use the same labeling conventions for each season.

Anyway, just a sugestion.

Re above poster:

Wow! That was fast!

Maybe it will be the beginning of transporter psychosis.

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Episode 12: "Babel One"

In an homage to the original series episode "Journey to Babel," the Enterprise is ordered to escort Andorian and Tellarite delegations to a peace conference on the eponymous Babel I. There is extensive conflict between all parties especially when the Tellarites suspect the humans and Andorians of conspiring together due to the friendship between Shran and Archer. Things get even more complicated when the Romulans arrive.

TUE

I read that Jeffrey Combs (Weyoun / Brunt) will be playing an Andorian

John, Jeffrey Combs has been playing Shran ever since The Andorian Incident.

We finally get to see Tellarites :D

Merat: Two Tellarites were seen in the season 2 episode "Bounty."

TUE

What? I have no recollection of that *goes and checks* Whoa, I missed quite a few season 2 episodes.... wonder how that happened....

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Episode 13: "United"
In a continuation of "Babel One," a Romulan senator meets with the commander of the Romulan ship that attacked the Tellarites in the previous episode. The Senator is escorted by a group of Reman guards. The Senator is a strong proponent of Romulan/Vulcan reunification; however, they can't risk humans finding out about the plans ahead of time. They have to stop the Enterprise from discovering the Vulcan/Romulan connection.

TUE

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Episode 11: "Observer Effect"
Trip Tucker and Hoshi Sato return from an away mission with a grisly virus which appears to be incurable and could easily infect the rest of the crew. Meanwhile, unbeknownst to Archer and company, noncorporeal aliens are occupying the bodies of officers in order to observe and judge the humans' responses to the viral threat. The aliens fully expect some if not all of the crew to die.

Sounds like a combination of Voyager's "Scientific Method" and Enterprise's own "The Crossing."


TUE

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Episode 14: "The Aenar"
The third episode in the now-highly-anticipated Andorian/Romulan arc. The title refers to the unique Andorian pilot who has been using remote control technology to steer a Romulan ship causing all sorts of mayhem for the Andorians, Tellarites, Vulcans, and Starfleet in "Babel One" (story) and "United." Reportedly a telepath with a unique physical appearance, the pilot is a type of Andorian known as "Aenar." His name is 'Gareb' and he may be one of a kind among his people. The Romulans are using him to pilot their vessel and avoid the possibility of anyone (especially Vulcans) learning of their appearance or heritage during a conflict.

TUE

EPISODES THUS FAR FOR SEASON 4:

ENDING THE XINDI ARC:
1. Storm Front, Part 1
2. Storm Front, Part 2
3. Home
THE EUGENICS ARC:
4. Borderland
5. Cold Station 12
6. The Augments
THE VULCAN CIVIL WAR ARC:
7. The Forge
8. The Awakening
9. Kir'Shara
STAND-ALONE EPISODES:
10. Daedalus
11. Observer Effect
ANDORIAN/TELLARITE/ROMULAN ARC:
12. Babel One
13. United
14. The Aenar


TUE

I really really hope they don't mess this Romulan thing up.

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Episode 15: "Affliction"
The Klingons are suffering from a terrible plague, and they board the Enterprise in order to discover any medical information. The MACOs get rid of most of them, but they capture one Klingon. Meanwhile, Doctor Phlox is offered a position as Director of Xenobiology for the Interspecies Medical Exchange Program, and he is conflicted over loyalty to the crew versus the opportunity for career advancement.

NOTE FROM TUE: The details of this episode are extremely vague (especially about the Klingon plotline), but it sounds to me like we might be looking at:
a. A beginning to human/Klingon hostilities (of course, people have said that before)
b. (which seems more likely to me) a reason for why Klingons look different during the TOS era. A common belief is that the TOS look is a result of some sort of disease that spreads through the Klingon Empire.

TUE

If so, at least they're tackling it at last, and with a fairly believable premise. I guess we'll have a not-very-subtle prediction from Archer (as in "Regeneration") that a cure for the plague might not be found until the 2270s.

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More info on Episode 15: "Affliction"

The episode kicks off in an underground Klingon laboratory where a Klingon scientist and General oversee a strange project. Soldiers bring in a captive Klingon warrior and subject him to injection of a green fluid. After a few moments, it seems that the prisoner's forehead ridges bear the brunt of the fluid's effects. We are very likely looking at a canonical explanation for the famous change in makeup between the Klingons of TOS and the Klingons of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE?

Meanwhile, Phlox has been offered a prestigious position with the Interspecies Medical Exchange but is kidnapped by a band of hooded aliens. The kidnappers turn out to be Rigelians, our first look at this oft-mentioned STAR TREK race. The Rigel system and its inhabitants have been mentioned in many TREK episodes such as "Mudd's Women," "Wolf in the Fold" and DS9's "The Passenger" among others. ENT's series premiere "Broken Bow" visited Rigel X, but encountered no Rigelians on screen.

As "Affliction" progresses, Klingons attack and board Enterprise for some clandestine purpose. Engaging the MACOs in a firefight, the Klingons implant a computer program into the ship before escaping. One Klingon, however, is shot by the MACOs and captured. His name is 'Marab' and he is thrown in the brig. Marab reveals that he is infected with a plague that is sweeping the Klingon Empire, and we learn that at least one symptom of the fatal disease is increased physical strength.

Also in this episode, 'Erika Hernandez' and the Columbia NX-02 will make an appearance. Hernandez and the Columbia were last seen in "Home."


Looks like theory "B" was right....

TUE

The Rigelians should look vulcanoid. Journey to Babel(TOS) established that Vulcans and Rigelians have similar physiology.

Depends which Rigellians, ScottN. You're right, but The Cage also featured Rigellians, who looked vaguely like humanoid turtles and had a caste-based society. Maybe that was a different planet in the Rigel system, though.

I think TPTB, if they acknowledge the similar physiology, will probably make it a fairly subtle - it's already quite confusing for the casual viewer with Vulcans and Romulans looking the same.

Good point. I forgot caveman-dude on Rigel IX (I think it was IX, might have been VIII) from The Cage and The Menagerie.

Caveman-dude was from Rigel VII. Also, Hengist (the administrator on Argelius in Wolf in the Fold) was from Rigel IV. Journey to Babel mentioned Rigel V. So when they say "Rigellians" which one do they mean?

And when they say "Tarellians"/"Talarians" in TNG, which one do they mean?

I would assume that we will be told which planet these Rigellians are from.

Scientifically, does it seem reasonable that so many planets in the Rigel System could be M-Class? I know it's possible, but is it probable?
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A Klingon by any other name would smell just as foul.


TUE

TUE, Tarellians are from Tarella, which was nearly wiped out by a bioweapon, as established in Haven(TNG).

Talarians are the race with which Jeremiah Rossa was raised as Jono, as seen in Suddenly Human(TNG).

Luigi, I think TUE was referring to the whole 'Tarellians / Terrellians / Tyrellians' thing with three races sounding the same, but got it mixed up with the 'Tarellian / Talarian' nit from "Suddenly Human" where Picard says the wrong race name.

Curse these aliens with their similar sounding names. Getting me all confused.

I can't even make a lame quip at the creators' expense without frelling something up.

Double dumb-a$$ on me.

TUE

On a belated note:

If TUE is right about the origin of the Klingon foreheads, it will be as lame as Worf's non-answer about Klingon appearance.

I have mentioned it on other boards, but the non-canon explanation is that the Klingons altered their appearance to better spy on the Federation. I don't remember the source of this discussion though.

Mh,
the ture offscreen explanation why the Klingon appearance changed is: MAKEUP and costs.
30 years ago they just couldn't do that
and in TNG they decided to have some more warrior looking aliens.

I have no problem accepting that the TOS klingons are actually the same as in TNG and ENT.
That ENT showed the TNG look from the beginning made that clear and somehow contradicts WORFs explanation from the Trible Episode.

So what should we believe now?

So, Klingons suffer from a deadly plague with increased strengh? Will it be never cured
and the reason for their religion and beliefs about fighting and glory deaths in combat?

Worf had an explanation???

"We do not discuss it with outsiders."

Kinda vague...

Actually Elwood, the first time we saw the new Klingons was in Star Trek: The Motion Picture in 1979.

And yes, the true explanation was money and cost. The whole Klingon appearance thing was another reason I was against Enterprise. But as usual, the Killer B's have neither love of nor care for continuity.

Although Coto does appear to have some respect for continuity, and seems to be trying to fix it.

But we've seen past Klingons, haven't we? Didn't they have ridges?

No, Ruffles have Ridges ®

Doesn't it seem odd that if all Klingons had had smooth heads prior to the 23rd century, O'Brien and Bashir would have no knowledge of it?

It does seem odd that O'Brien & Bashir never saw a picture in a history book of an early Klingon. Bashir did admit he was no historian, but he should know of any major medical condition that might explain the change. Of course, history could have been edited by the Klingons.
Point to consider: We don't know if all Klingons prior to the 23rd Century were smooth headed. All we know if that the few Klingons that Enterprise-1701 saw were smooth. Also keep in mind that some of those same Klingons appeared later and had ridges.
So, according to the current Enterprise, ridges were present, then they weren't, then they were again.
Either due to spying on humans or a disease.
Another possibility is temporal changes. Klingons messed w/ time for awhile, but then realized it was a dishonorable practice.
What were the other speculations mentioned in Trails & Tribble-ations?

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EPISODE 16 - DIVERGENCE:
The conclusion to the two-part Klingon story started in "Affliction." The starship Columbia is heavily involved.

EPISODE 17 - BOUND:
Three Orion Slave Girls are given to Archer (without his knowledge) as a gift, but there's more to them than meets the eye.

EPISODE 18 - IN A MIRROR, DARKLY, PART 1:
This episode takes place entirely in the Mirror Universe with Captain Forrest commanding the Enterprise. We learn here that a critical point of divergence in the Mirror Universe is during first contact when a mob attacks the Vulcans instead of welcoming them.

EPISODE 19 - IN A MIRROR, DARKLY, PART 2:
Continuing from the previous episode, Archer (captain Forrest's first officer) discovers the Constitution Class USS Defiant, which was seen in the TOS episode "The Tholian Web." In that episode it disappeared into another universe. This episode reveals that the ship went 100 years into the past in addition to going into the mirror universe. Archer wants to take command of the Defiant; however, members of the Gorn species also want the ship.


SO THE UPCOMING SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE THIS:

12 - Babel One
13 - United
14 - The Aenar
15 - Affliction
16 - Divergence
17 - Bound
18 - In a Mirror, Darkly, Part 1
19 - In a Mirror, Darkly, Part 2

TUE

"Conquest is easy. Control is not."

Scientifically, does it seem reasonable that so many planets in the Rigel System could be M-Class? I know it's possible, but is it probable?

http://history.nasa.gov/CP-2156/ch2.7.htm

http://www.ess.sunysb.edu/fwalter/AST248/habzone.html

According to theory, lower mass stars would have narrower zones where Earthlike conditions could be met. Higher mass stars would have wider zones.

Inside the zone, there'd be a day=year situation, which would make it difficult for Earthlike conditions to be met.

For Rigel, the zone would be something like 100 to 1000 Astronomical Units (10 billion to 100 billion miles.) That's plenty wide enough.

But Rigel is only about 10 million years old so we still have to postulate some advanced race terraforming the planets to make them habitable for humanoids. How convenient.


There might be Klingons with ridges in the TOS era and Klingons without in the other periods; we just didn't see them.


On a totally different subject, Trektoday says "Observer Effect" got the lowest rating ever for this series. I wonder if that's a reflection of what viewers thought of the previous episode (so they didn't tune in this time) or did the Neilsen people watch this episode for two minutes and then change the channel?

There might be Klingons with ridges in the TOS era and Klingons without in the other periods; we just didn't see them.

The real problem comes with Kor, Kang, and Koloth, who are shown without ridges (in TOS), and with ridges (Blood Oath(DS9) and later DS9 episodes (Kor).

Maybe when the majority of Klingons had ridges by the time of TNG (for whastever reason) they all had plastic surgery to fit in? Not very warrior-like, I know...

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EPISODE 20 - DEMONS:

From TrekToday
TrekToday sources today revealed that the upcoming episode "Demon" will open in a secret medical facility playing host to one very important patient. She has her own secured room, and is being cared for by a physician who seems devoted primarily to her. And right now, her health appears to be in grave danger, causing her physician to call in his supervisor.

The supervisor, a man named John Paxton, isn't very happy with the physician, Dr. Mercer. The patient has been suffering from a swelling and severe fever for several days now, so why didn't Mercer inform Paxton until now? Mercer counters that their monitoring equipment wasn't set up for this type of patient, so they didn't know the condition was this serious. Paxton doesn't care - he just wants to know if the patient is alright, and warns Mercer that if she isn't, Mercer may not be for much longer either.

Mercer and Paxton enter the patient's room, where Mercer nervously begins to check her readings. To his great relief, she appears to have recovered again. Paxton looks down at the patient, and remarks that she's looking so innocent, it's "almost possible to forget what she represents." Then, Mercer and Paxton leave the room, and we're finally able to see who the patient is: a six-month old baby, who strangely enough has Vulcan pointed ears. Attached to her incubator is a small label. It reads "Tucker."

While these events are going on, the crew of the Enterprise are enjoying their time at a conference back home in the Solar System. At the conference, Travis Mayweather encounters an old friend - Gannet Brooks, a press photographer covering the event. It's been four years since they last saw each other, and it's implied in their conversation that back then, they were more than just friends. Gannet proposes to get together to catch up on old times, but Mayweather seems to be holding her off. Will Gannet be able to break through Mayweather's armour before the Enterprise sets out into deep space again?

TUE

"But you're half-human. The computer knows that."
"The question is irrelevant."

Here is a link to a review of the recently released 4th season.

IGN.com

A great site for all kinds of DVD reviews. This also brings to mind -- is UPN even rerunning episodes of Enterprise? I'd really like to see the rest of the only one I missed (and one of the "good" ones) about the Mirror Universe.

This also brings to mind -- is UPN even rerunning episodes of Enterprise?

Try going to tv.yahoo.com, select a location by zip code, do a search for "Enterprise", and you can see what stations are showing the reruns for any location around the country.

From what I've looked at there, ABC and FOX stations are showing the reruns, but not UPN stations.

The Detroit ABC affiliate is showing two reruns, starting at midnight Sunday and one immediately following at 1 am Sunday.

Other stations around the country are showing the same episodes, but not always at the same time.

The strange thing is, they started with "Broken Bow", then started showing the fourth season episodes, and now they're showing "Broken Bow" again. They don't usually do that with the reruns of other cancelled series. I guess they knew the other seasons weren't so good.

As soon as they canceled Enterprise, I started taping the last episodes, and didn't bother watching them all, since I have them on tape. (I still have the finale of Cheers on tape! )

(I did watch "These are the Voyages..." and I can see why the stations don't want to rebroadcast that.)

The only one I missed taping was "Bound", and I've been waiting for the syndicated rerun. Was it so bad the stations are procrastinating about showing it? Why are they repeating "Broken Bow"?

I have a couple of questions (nits) about In a Mirror Darkly. I loved the show, don't get me wrong, but....

The humans conquered the Vulcans (I would assume) not long after the alt-First Contact. Presumably, that victory would have given Earth access to all Vulcan technology.

It was well established that we have only recently launched a warp-5 ship because the Vulcans held us back for 100 years by WITHHOLDING TECHNOLOGY. There is no way the alt-Enterprise would look like the same as "our" Enterprise, with presumably the same technical capabilities.

Also, the Empire obtains the Defiant 100 years before Kirk, yet alt-Kirk's enterprise in TOS "Mirror, Mirror" is identical to it?

And I just happened to think of this: alt-Phlox and alt-Reed invented the agony booth (seen in TOS). They were both killed in this episode, and the Enterprise, with its prototype booth, was destroyed. Did someone else "re-invent" it? Or was there time, in between all the intrigue, etc, for them to backup their research and take it with them to the Defiant?

I, for one, was glad to see the captain get lucky finally. It's clear the man was long overdue. I think Kirk was a lot more relaxed as captain because he allowed himself to let off (a lot!) of sexual tension. What, is there a 22nd century rule that equates the captaincy with monkhood?

I loved Quantum Leap, in part because Scott Bakula was sexy. I was doubly looking forward to Enterprise because he was the captain. To have cast him as such a stiff was a WASTE!!!!! All the stuff I loved about "Sam Beckett" - the charisma, the sex appeal, the good nature and humor were just wiped out.

Not a nit, just a comment: The opening sequence for A Mirror Darkly was very nicely done- kudos!

"And I just happened to think of this: alt-Phlox and alt-Reed invented the agony booth (seen in TOS). They were both killed in this episode"


Actually, it was never revealed what ultimately became of Alt-Reed and Phlox. The last we hear of Reed is when Phlox says he can go either way, meaning he was still alive. As for Phlox, the last we see of him is when Alt-Trip knocks him out. So, it is possible that both survived. Manny Coto said that had Enterprise been renewed for a fifth season, a return to the Mirror Universe would have been done, and the storyline of In A Mirror Darkly would have continued.

Although their status in canon is up in the air, Pocket Books have put out a series of Mirror Universe Books. The first one, Glass Empires, contains the story (the first story in the book) Age Of The Empress, which picks up right where In A Mirror Darkly leaves off, and tells of Alt-Hoshi beginning her reign. I won't give too much away, but this story does reveal what becomes of Alt-Reed, Phlox, and T'Pol. It really is a good read, and it was co-written by Mike Sussman, who wrote In A Mirror Darkly, so this story is probably based on a script he wanted to write for S5.

Alt-Hoshi starts a dynasty. Her granddaughter, Empress Hoshi Sato III is on the throne during the events of Mirror, Mirror (the second story, Sorrows Of Empire).

Shouldn't the last three posts have been placed on the boards for those episodes? Why place them here?

Actually, I already posted part of my above post in the In A Mirror Darkly Part 2 thread a while back. I guess I just forgot about it. Sorry.