Well, they messed up the Voyager finale and felt like doing the same to Enterprise....

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Enterprise: Enterprise Kitchen Sink: Well, they messed up the Voyager finale and felt like doing the same to Enterprise....
By Rene on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 3:25 pm:

••••. Why couldnt Coto have written it?

http://www.trektoday.com/news/020305_03.shtml


By Stone Cold Steven Of None on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 8:04 pm:

"Enterprise series finale, written by executive producers Rick Berman & Brannon Braga and described as 'a Valentine to fans' by Berman in interviews."

Make your own jokes.

And that's the bottom line...if you smell what I'm cooking.


By Anonymous on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 12:36 am:

Auctualy this story line remindes me somewhat of the B5 finaly where they fast foward and show key events from the previous show untill the creation of a federation


By ScottN on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 9:51 am:

The Toronto Star.

Especially frightening is Jolene Blalock's comment,


Quote:

There is an awkward silence when the subject of the final episode is broached. "I don't know where to begin with that one," she finally stammers. "The final episode is ... appalling."



By LUIGI NOVI on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 1:51 pm:

Good lord. That's even worse than what Robert Beltran said about Endgame.


By Thande on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 3:52 pm:

Just how much time travel is there in this one then?!!!


By Sparrow47, being a shameless gossip hound on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 5:26 pm:

And also, what did Beltran say about "Endgame"?


By The Phantom Stranger on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 6:14 pm:

According to rumor, Riker and Counselor Troi appear in the finale. They are watching a holodeck program showing involving Archer's Enterprise. Moreover, it is rumored that Trip will die in the finale.


By Harvey Kitzman on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 8:52 pm:

I thought Endgame was pretty good. My only complaint is that I would have liked a follow up episode as to how the crew was received on Earth and how they readjusted.


By Chris Marks on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 4:39 am:

The IMDB lists Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis for Enterprise episode 4.22.


By Influx on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 6:12 am:

So the finale will feature The Biggest Reset Button Ever??

(whisper to B & B) Um, Bob Newhart did that already...


By Thande on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 8:59 am:

Chris Marks: The IMDB lists Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis for Enterprise episode 4.22.

Well, at least John A. Lang will like the episode then! :)

(Let me guess: at the end of the show we pull back and see that the entire series of Enterprise was imagined by Riker and Troi's child, and we fade out on Riker berating his kid for getting history so messed up :))

"A Xindi attack on Earth in 2152?!!!!"


By John A. Lang on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:29 am:

Only if Marina Sirtis is wearing a low-cut outfit where I can see her cleavage.


By ScottN on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 11:10 am:

No, no, no!

Marina Sirtis wakes up in bed, and says to John A. Lang (who is lying next to her), "I just had the strangest dream!"

ref: Newhart


By ScottN on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 11:12 am:

Whoops... got it backwards...

John A. Lang wakes up in bed, and says to Marina Sirtis (who is lying next to him), "I just had the strangest dream. You know, you should wear bunny suits more often!"


By John A. Lang on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 12:27 pm:

Either way works for me! :)


By Harvey Kitzman on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 10:16 am:

LOL!!!!!


By John-Boy on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 5:48 pm:

no disrespect, but Marina Sirtis doesn't look that good anymore! Now if you are talking about the Troi from seasons 1 thru 7 of Next Gen, then I agree!


And of course the last episode of Enterpise is going to ••••! The entire series was that way, so why not the last episode?


By Username on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 2:02 am:

You **** too, John-Boy. On many boards.


By John-Boy on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 9:30 am:

Sticks and Stones, Username


By John-Boy on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 10:04 am:

I really hope that at the end of the last episode, its reveled that the entire series was just a holodeck program created by Riker, and that none of it was real! That would be a sweet ending! One worthy of song! A song sung by Klingon warriors drinking bloodwine!


By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 1:11 pm:

Richie? I think Username's post should be deleted.


By John A. Lang on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 2:18 pm:

"Enterprise" ending:
(At end of "Enterprise" Holo Program)

Riker: See, Deanna? NEVER, EVER allow your Starship or your crew to be like THAT!


By John-Boy on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 3:05 pm:

I agree with Luigi

And my ending of Enterpise, followed by John A Langs would be the ending worthy of songs sung by Klingon Warriors! :)


By Thande on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 3:56 pm:

I still like my idea of Enterprise turning out to be Riker's son's history project - at the end Riker comes on and bemoans the youth of today knowing NOTHING about history... :)


By John-Boy on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 8:02 pm:

Thats not a bad ending either Thande :)


By F. R Rubbisher on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 10:21 pm:

Re:The End
Riker & Troi end the holodeck program, but they're played by different people (Connor Trinner & Jolene Blalock ?)....


By Stone Cold Steven Of None on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 8:43 pm:

Especially frightening is Jolene Blalock's comment,
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Quote:
There is an awkward silence when the subject of the final episode is broached. "I don't know where to begin with that one," she finally stammers. "The final episode is ... appalling."
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OMG.
"A Valentine to fans", huh?
Sounds like a Valentine's Day MASSACRE to ME.


"Marina Sirtis doesn't look that good anymore!"

If she was to give her current husband the boot, _you'd_ probably be sniffing around her house the next day. And probably bump into John A Lang hiding in the garage.
And that's all I got to say about that.


By John A. Lang on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 8:56 pm:

More like...I'd be hiding in her bedroom. :)


By John-Boy on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 4:19 pm:

NO, I wouldn't be sniffing around her bedroom. Sorry, she doesn't do anything for me anymore. John A Lang can have her. :)


By Josh M on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 1:02 am:

Interesting article about the series finale at scifi.com. Warning- It does have a couple of SPOILERS:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0&id=30679

SPOILER:

(highlight)Apparently, in the final episode the we're going to flash forward six years for the decommissioning of the Enterprise and the beginning of the Federation


By ScottN on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 3:58 pm:

do you think TPTB read this site?


By ScottN on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 3:58 pm:

Whoops!

Gee, do you think TPTB read this site?


By oino sakai on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 6:10 pm:

Frakes and Sirtis can appear on the finale without portraying Riker and Troi, so there doesn't have to be any continuity problem.


By Benn on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 10:01 pm:

'Cept, according to the reports, they do play Riker and Troi. So...

Live long and prosper.


By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 11:52 am:

Scott, the second post's link didn't work either.


By ScottN on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 1:22 pm:

May be gone because it was an April Fools joke. Looks like it isn't there.

It was a joke about Archer waking up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette, and walking into the shower to find Patrick Duffy.


By Taoiseach on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 8:49 am:

Sad. So very sad. Enterprise was meant to be about the Romulan War and how Earth was instrumental in bringing together disparate races to form the Federation.

Instead, we got the usual first season stumbling around, trying to figure out what to do, an embarrassing second season of chasing a storyline that could have been great (given its post-9/11 tone) but was simply a long-drawn-out nothing that ended in the even more embarrassing time-travel-to-WWII short arc. Third season showed promise, but by that point UPN must have been fed up or else they wouldn't have relegated the show to the death-zone of Friday evenings opposite Stargate SG-1 on Sci-Fi.

I will watch the final two eps, with little expectation or hope. I would prefer them to go out with a great twist, a la the finale of St. Elsewhere, or at the very least with a knowing wink and a nod to the long-time Star Trek fans - Suzanne Pleshette and Patrick Duffy? Classic! - but I won't hold my breath.

A word of advice to all viewers: pessimists are never disapointed.


By Harvey Kitzman on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 10:14 pm:

The Killer B's still don't get it.

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0&id=30897


By Influx on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 8:22 am:

Braga: "But there were no serious complaints. And none of the actors have seen the episode, so they can't be dissatisfied with how it turned out."

No, we'll have to see it first to be dissatisfied with it...


By Will on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:42 am:

Maybe Jolene Blailock meant to say that the series finale was T'Poling, not appalling. :)


By Nove Rockhoomer on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 7:19 pm:

It sounds like Berman and Braga are trying everything they can to say, "Well, when the actors said the show was bad, they didn't mean it." And the people who said Enterprise was a lousy show didn't mean it either, I guess. We're just "tired" of Trek. I'm not and I don't think too many others are. I just dislike this series (for the most part).


By Matt on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 10:27 am:

The finale is on May 13...Friday the 13th.
Is UPN trying to be a smartass by doing that?


By Influx on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 6:25 am:

Aren't there two episodes left? It's May 10 right now, so Terra Prime should be on the 13th, and the finale on the 20th.

Unless it's a two-hour show?


By Adam Bomb on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 6:45 am:

Hey Taoiseach: I think you missed a season there. The Xindi storyline was the entire third season, and the show was moved to Fridays for its fourth season.
And yes, it's a two hour show. UPN has gracefully dropped its same-week repeat of America's Next Top Model to give us the two final shows in one evening.
Will there be repeats this summer?


By Influx on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 9:13 am:

Will there be repeats this summer?

I hope so. I missed part I of the Mirror Universe story that everyone so raved about.


By Will on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 10:14 am:

And I missed The Aenar, so at least I have one last episode to look forward after the finale.


By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 1:45 pm:

According to my TV Guide, both of the last eps are on the 13th, and each is an hour.


By lila petersen on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 1:49 pm:

I loved ENTERPRISE. I loved every single episode except for the sicko finale which I hated. I love the original Star Trek but loath the safe, pc TNG and having old, fat TNG actors invading the finale of Enterprise was strange, hideous and off putting.
Lila from New Zealand. Middle Earth and Narnia, holy sites we have managed not to screw with. Just like Joss Whedon doesn't ruin things!
Lila.


By lila petersen on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 1:51 pm:

The actual finale.
Jonathan Archer became a galactic ambassador. He kept up a passionate relationship with his sweetheart, the captain of the Columbia II, whenever their schedules would allow.
Dr. Flocks became a professor of multi-species medicine and taught at several universities across the galaxy, using sub-space lectures.
Hoshi Sato became a linguistics professor and taught on earth.
Travis Mayweather piloted the first warp 7 ship, Intrepid.
Malcom Reed worked along side Ambassador Archer as his personal body guard. Malcom continued to blow things up, whenever he got the chance.
Charles Tucker married T’Pol. Together they achieved great advancements in perfecting the engineering of terraforming planets, beginning with Mars. They had 4 children, 2 sons and 2 daughters. They named their first daughter Elizabeth and their second son Charles. Their other 2 children had Vulcan names.
They all continued having adventures and once a year, sometimes on Thanks Giving, they all got together to celebrate each other’s lives.


By lila petersen on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 1:59 pm:

I also love the way the writers of Enterprise tied in a lot of orignial stuff, like the Klingon who Kirk met who had no facial ridges and the first Enterprise ship.
Cool ships, not like the TNG ship, a bleeding luxury liner where they spent too much time on the fecking holodeck.
It's a lot less crazy. Peeps need to read the Physics of Star Trek. And I loved the opening credits with progression from today onwards. Steven Hawking is working on warp drive!


By Zarm Rkeeg on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 11:44 pm:

Y'know, for some reason this board got me to thinking yesterday. If the producers were dead set on doing a Frakes/Sirtis crossover series finale, here's what I would have proposed.

Returning/going somewhere of no special importance to the plot (as usual) Enterprise stumbles across a spacial anomoly, in which they can bearly detect a ship surrounded by bizzare, non-Vulcan-Science-Directorate-approved temporal readings. Taking most of the senior staff on a rescue attempt (that, or giving most of them no important role in the finale, once again as usual,) Archer, T'pol, Trip, Phlox, and however many regulars can be reasonably taken along on the mission enter the rift in a shuttlepod and discover a strange spacecraft. Aboard is a dark, mysterious stranger and a few of his crewmembers, many of whom are already dead. The captain explains that this is a temporal rift, a kind of time nexus (not to be confused with a time-space Nexus) in which his heavily damaged ship is trapped. The rift is essentially open to every point in time simultaneously, which makes exiting the rift a difficult proposition: every time leads into the rift, and the rift leads outwards to everytime- if you don't have the proper phasing technology, your individual molecules will be spread throughout random timeframes when you try to leave.
As Archer and Co. try to decide what to do, several other rescue parties appear, including a TOS Movie-era crew, a group of Preservers from way back when, and a team from the USS Titan (fresh out of spacedock with missing parts that won't be delivered until Tuesday), led by Captain William Riker and his wife.
The many teams agree to help the ship's mysterious captain and his almost fanatically devoted crew, as this ship has advanced technology that may be able to get them all safely out, once it's repaired. The only stipulations: the rescue teams are not allowed into a large chamber filled with technology beyond their understanding, a vast cathedral of machines and energy conduits leading to a single, tiny platform in the middle; also, one locked crew cabin is off limits.
The crews do their best to repair the strange technology, all the while having scores of meaningful heart-to-heart talks between the teams, especially Archer and Riker. (More meaningful than what we got in the real finale anyway.)
However, the teams are soon beset with a series of random, minor, but often leathal accidents with the unfamilliar technology... some that should not be able to occurr. The Preservers are wiped out, as well as the movie era crew and the engineers from the Titan. (If it's necessary to kill off Trip, that happens here as well, probably leaping in to save Archer or T'pol from a deadly electrical discharge.)
As suspicions between Riker, Troi, and the Enterprise crew, they decide to slip past the crew of this ship and into the locked quarters. After a tense comando/stealth infiltration operation, they discover a lone occupant. A single human male, tortured, beaten, restrained and near death: Crewman Daniels!
Through daniels they learn that after the timeline was re-set following the Nazi Takeover incident, only one faction of the Temporal cold war (besides the Federation itself) remained unaffected; this ship was hidden in an anti-time pocket, the same one that it's now in. The mysterious captain is Future Guy, the man who has been giving orders to the suliban all this time! (Optional shocker moment: Future Guy is actually the guy from Voyager's Year of Hell series!!! Dum-dum-dum!)
Once many of his allies were eliminated by the timeline re-setting, and his options were low, Future Guy remained hidden in his anti-temporal pocket, trying to create an all-out temporal war. The Federation sent Daniels, an old pro at dealing with Future Guy, and his partner Braxton, who was killed in the mission. Daniels was halted, but not before accomplishing part of his mission: Future Guy really *is* stranded in this pocket of his own creation, and despite needing help with his own repairs, has been eliminating his workers as repairs near completion because he knows that they will try to oppose him when they discover the truth. Daniels urges them to help: Future Guy is at his weakest with most of his technology off-line and many of his crewmen dead. A strike now could end this temporal madness once and for all!
In a final comando raid, the assembled Starfleeters fight their way though the ship to the large cathedral-chamber, the temporal broadcasting chamber that Future Guy uses to send his messages. There, a final confrontation with Future Guy ocurrs. Daniel tries to face him, but he is too weak by far and is quickly killed. Archers engages in a mano-a-mano battle to delay Future Guy as T'pol and Riker, working together, re-program the temporal equipment to collapse the anti-temporal pocket. With a last salute to Archer, Riker triggers the temporal device, and Future Guy, along with his ship, are removed from the timeline in a bright burst of light...
Captain Archer, along with his entire crew in an inspection pod, (in the tradition of Star Treks past) are ferried onto the brand-new NX-01 Enterprise, along with a wounded Klingon that they are preparing to transport to Qo'nos for their maiden voyage. A confused Archer breifly starts asking about a race known as the Suliban, and the attack in Broken Bow, but is quickly reminded that the Klingon's vessel simply had a close brush with an ion-storm.
As they prepare to board Enterprise, the scene changes to another ship preparing to leave space-dock. Captain Riker puts a few finishing touches in his ready room, including a large photograph of captain Archer. As his new XO arrives to tell him that the ship is ready to depart, Riker asks if he/she knows much about captain Archer, then proceeds to give a one or two sentance mention of the highlights of Archer's exploits in this "corrected" timeline, concluding with "...and I met him, once."

Then, with a rousing parallel speech by Archer/Riker to their respective crews, the two vessels pull out of spacedock, accompanied my a montage of other Starfleet vessels (Including Voyager and Defiant near DS9) and a multi-captain reading of the "Space, the Final Frontier" Beginning with Zefram Cochrane, (Space, the final frontier), then Janeway (These are the voyages of the starship), Picard (Enterprise. It's continuing mission...), Kirk (To seek out strange, new worlds), Sisko (To find new life, and new civilizations,) Riker (To boldly go...) and finally Archer, as the Enterprise arcs away from Earth and into whatn lies beyond... Where no man has gone before.


Well, there you have it. Not many more plot holes than the average Enterprise episode, and a heck of a lot more interesting. (Although it doesn't include Shran :-( )
What do you think?


By inblackestnight on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 3:11 pm:

After finally watching The Expanse, I have now seen all of ST: Enterprise, and I must say it wasn't bad at all, better than VGR in several aspects IMO. I watched the seasons in a strange order, 4-3-1-2, but besides TNG it is the only series I've seen in full. DS9 is my favorite, with TNG a close second, but with it's characterization, intra-consistency, and continuity, aside from a few exceptions (Broken Bow, Acquisition, Regeneration...), Enterprise is next on my list. Looking back, once I heard about the premise of Enterprise being a prequel series I thought TPTB would screw things up too bad, so I vowed to never watch it. This changed when I heard how good the forth season was, in a ST themed philosophy class, so I caught some reruns and was hooked. Why I decided to post this here, I'm not sure. Take care everybody!


By Brian FitzGerald on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 1:38 am:

One year late, but......................................

I do agree with Zarm that if they were dead set on doing a Riker/Troy crossover for the final it should have been a time travel episode. I remember back when Voyager did their ep "Flashback" Phil (The Chief) expressed his disappointment that it was just a retelling of ST:VI from a different POV. He was hoping for Sulu, Rand & the Excelsior to go on some adventure with Voyager, which probably would have been some type of time travel anomaly of the week. Sort of like "Yesterday's Enterprise."

I think that a Riker Troy ep would have been better as either them getting thrown into the past, either with the whole ship or just the two of them or Enterprise getting thrown into the future. If they encounter the Titan they could have used some inside ship sets from ST:Nemesis. Heck if they wanted to it could have been Enterprise's disappearance causes an alternate future where Riker and Troy are on a Galaxy class ship for whatever reason, perhaps the Enterprise-D is captained by Riker after Picard & co all died in some war that was caused by Enterprise (NX-1) disappearing.


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