John Billingsley aka Dr. Phlox on why Star Trek: Enterprise failed

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Enterprise: Enterprise Kitchen Sink: John Billingsley aka Dr. Phlox on why Star Trek: Enterprise failed
By Jeff Winters (Jeff1980) on Thursday, June 25, 2020 - 3:58 pm:

Online articles in June 2020
have John Billingsley explain why Star Trek:Enterprise failed, it came too soon after the end
of Voyager in May 2001,
Star Trek: Enterprise debuted in September 2001, there was Franchise Fatigue,


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Thursday, June 25, 2020 - 8:06 pm:

Ah, "franchise fatigue"... the myth that never dies.

Nothing against John Billingsley, but he's wrong.

There is a clear trail of bad scripts and less than competent management of the Star Trek franchise under Berman and Braga that shows who is to blame.

I believe these two first had control at the end of NextGen (can't recall if Braga had a significant role during NextGen, but I recall seeing his name often during the credits.)

Then they created DS9 which wasn't as good as NextGen, although when Voyager came along to distract the killer Bs attention that did allow Ira Steven Behr (I think) to salvage DS9.

Voyager limped along and then came Enterprise which by IIRC the third episode showed the crew as so incompetent that I began referring to it as "The Lunk-Headed Space Tourists".

Things did start to get better in the third and fourth seasons as B&B turned their focus to something else and Manny Coto began salvaging the show. While his scripts were generally mediocre compared to previous Star Treks, compared to other Enterprise scripts they were great.

The fans who were left were actually looking forward to another season, but the suits above decided the show's ratings weren't good enough.

The only fatigue was from bad scripts, not the franchise.


By Jeff Winters (Jeff1980) on Saturday, June 27, 2020 - 11:37 am:

Keith, with all the many new
Star Trek series being planned
Such as, Lower Decks,
Strange New Worlds,
Untitled Section 31 Series,
Season 2 of
Star Trek: Picard and other Star Trek
series being planned,
Just Check out the
Wikipedia entry for the
Star Trek franchise, is
Star Trek once again heading for
Franchise Fatigue,? Making the same mistakes all over again, producing too much Star Trek


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Saturday, June 27, 2020 - 10:01 pm:

There's talk of spinoffs, but how many have actually been greenlit and money put up for production?

Back in the '90s there was a persistant rumor of a series called Starfleet Academy. Never happened. A Captain Sulu series would get mentioned occasionally. Never happened.

The Section 31 & Lower Decks series rumors are almost as old as Discovery and probably won't happen. Sadly if a new series does get made it'll have the Bad Robot people behind it, so I wouldn't expect a quality production.

Another rumor though is that CBS is having money problems which might mean a selling off of assets which could involve Star Trek, but only time will tell.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Friday, July 03, 2020 - 7:24 pm:

Lower Decks series rumors are almost as old as Discovery and probably won't happen

And I was wrong.


By Jeff Winters (Jeff1980) on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - 4:55 am:

With all the many many New Star Trek series we have now, and even more Star Trek series being planned, are we heading towards Franchise Fratigue again ?


By ScottN (Scottn) on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - 3:19 pm:

Good question, wrong place.


By Jeff Winters (Jeff1980) on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - 4:55 pm:

ScottN, where is the right place to post the Question


By ScottN (Scottn) on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - 6:17 pm:

Never mind. It is the correct place. I thought this was the character board.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - 12:13 am:

Oh God, please don't encourage him!


By ScottN (Scottn) on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - 8:30 am:

In this case, it was relevant, and in the proper place.

There is chastisement for bad behavior, but proper behavior should be encouraged.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, June 10, 2021 - 5:20 am:

There is a clear trail of bad scripts and less than competent management of the Star Trek franchise under Berman and Braga that shows who is to blame.

I believe these two first had control at the end of NextGen (can't recall if Braga had a significant role during NextGen, but I recall seeing his name often during the credits.)


Actually, Braga was still a small fry when it came to TNG. By the later seasons, Rick Berman and Michael Piller were the ones running things. When they started DS9, Jeri Taylor took over at TNG, and remained there until the end of the show.

Braga had nothing to do with DS9.

The first show that Braga had any real control on was VOY, when Jeri Taylor retired in 1998. When he (and Berman) began to develop ENT, Ken Biller replaces him on VOY for season seven.

ENT was the only Trek show that Braga had a hand in creating. And it says something that the final season, the ones the Killer B's had practically nothing to do with, is considered the best one.

However, by then it was too late. The Utterly Pointless Network axed it (the following year, it would crush the rival WB, scoop up their shows as spoils of war, and mutate into the CW).

As for the Killer B's, while Berman more or less retired from the industry, Braga went from flop show to flop show, until finally achieving success again with The Orville.


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