These are my favorite bands in order.

1. Blue Oyster Cult
2. Miles Davis
3. The Monkees
4. Jimi Hendrix
5. Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble
6. The Who
7. Neil Young
8. The Kinks
9. Type O Negative
10. Janis Joplin
Honorable mention: Electric Light Orchestra

I think this would be better in the Basin.

Why are the current crop of prefabricated talentless hacks called "bands?" N-Sync, Backstreet Boys and O-Town were pre-assembled to fit a stereotype. None of them play instruments, so how can they be called a "band". They exist to sell CD's, concert tickets and overpriced merchandise to teenage girls. The Monkees were assembled for a TV show, but they learned to play instruments and to write their own songs. Thirty five years later, we still remember and like The Monkees. Will we remember O-Town, Backstreet Boys and N-Sync in five years?

Depends on how many drug arrests are made. :-)

Uh, actually, Micky, Miike and Peter could all three play guitar. Micky had to learn to play the drums for his role in the Monkees. Tork was probably the best musician of them. While he did have to learn bass, Peter could play keyboards, guitar and banjo. Both he and Nesmith were making the rounds on country/folk circuit before being hired to play Monkees. Mike had even released a single under the name of "Michael Blessing".

Papa Nez got songwriting credit on the first album. He wrote "Papa Gene's Blues", which has Peter playing fourth guitar (his only contribution to the album ). Mike also co-wrote "Sweet Young Thing" with Carole King and Gerry Goffin. Micky and Peter would get songwriting credit two albums later with "Randy Scouse Git" and "For Pete's Sake" respectively.

I imagine that O-Town, the Backseat Boys and *N-Sync will be remembered about the same way Donnie Osmond, Bobby Sherman, The DeFranco Family and the Bay City Rollers are remembered. The public at large won't be able to recall but one or two hits (if that) by them and their fans will have fond, warm memories of them. I feel sorry for anyone who marries one of these girls, though. "Honey, 98° are having a reunion tour. We have got to go see them." If it were me, I'd go in the next room and blow my brains out.

Brian, if it bothers you that much, have the moderator move this board. I'm not that picky about it.

Some of these pre-fabricated groups actually do have some talent, but still....

I, for one, cannot stand the Backstreet Boys AT ALL, but *N-sync have done a couple of good songs (God Must Have Spent A Litte More Time On You & Bye, Bye, Bye). However, I think the boy-band craze is dying. When it started, you saw new groups pop up left and right!

Now we've got all these girl and co-ed groups to contend with (A-Teens, Dream, Eden's Crush)...

I wish we could go back to the 80's. I actually liked rap, until it turned into all this Gangster\Player\Pothead stuff. I want Metal back! I want Metallica, AC\DC and Queensryche (yes, they're still together) back on MTV and Backstreet Boys and Snoop Doggy-Dog begging from change on the streets, where those no-talents belong!

And if I could, I'd go back to the late Seventies, say 1975 on out. Can't, so I'm in the here and now. I try to find some good stuff in what's going on now. Union Underground, Apartment 26, Primal Fear, Full Devil Jacket and Kittie may help your metal jones, if you haven't heard them already. Outkast's "Ms. Jackson" was a great recent rap song. There's still good music out there. It's just not the most popular stuff. Suits me fine. I've always been a lone wolf who's never really ran with a pack.

Of course, the boy band craze will die. Disco didn't last forever. It's surprising to me that it's gone on as long as it has. These days the music spits out it's talent as quickly as it can find it. There is little patience to allow an act to find its niche.

I'm with Captain Clerk; the boy bands are c-r-a-p, and it seems that anyone who can throw out rhymes about shooting someone, having sex, and smoking dope can get a record contract nowadays (Exception: Nelly is pretty good, even if he is a pothead).

As far as I know of, A-Teens are basically an ABBA cover band! Dream? Nope. They'll be gone soon. Same for Eden's Crush.

I've heard Kittie before, Benn, and I don't like them. The only other group you mentioned that I've heard of is Full Devil Jacket, but I haven't heard any of their music yet.

"Ms. Jackson" was a good rap song. I also like "Shake It Fast" by Mystikal, and a couple of other modern rap songs, but 99% of it stinks right now.

But, anyway, forget Backstreet Boys, forget N*Stink. I'll take KoRn and Limp Bizkit (there's a twisted meal!), with a little Powerman 5000 and Rob Zombie on the side.

Now, getting to the title of this board:

I have diverse tastes. I like Garth Brooks, and I like Hank Williams (Sr and Jr). But, I also like the Beach Boys, Frank Sinatra and Def Leppard.

Basically, I like all types of music except Bluegrass (Irritating and reminds me of "Deliverance") and Improvisational Jazz (sounds like they're trying to tune their instruments while blindfolded).

My favorite group would have to be Def Leppard, and my favorite solo artist would be Garth Brooks.

Sturgeon's Law: "99 percent of everything is ••••."

I'm not trying to say it's all good. It ain't, and never was. Never will be. You just gotta find the good in everything. That one percentile.

In his movie Bamboozled, Spike Lee seems to implying that gangsta rap is the modern day equivilent of the old ministrel shows. I couldn't agree with him more. That so many people embrace such a stereotypical view, and not die of embarrassment is unbelievable to me.

I can listen to just about any kind of music myself. Tejano is probably the only kind of music I don't like. And yet, I'm inundated with it on a daily basis.

Speaking of Tejano, I never heard of Selena until she was killed. I am from the Northeast, and I never heard of Tejano music until then, either. Howard Stern was forced to apologize for insulting Tejano music. (Personally, I think his job was on the line-Stern never apologizes for ANYTHING.) Why did Selena rate a (sappy) movie only two years after her death? It took 20 years for "The Buddy Holly Story", almost 30 for "La Bamba", both much better flicks. If Luis Valdez had helmed "Selena" it might have had the energy that "La Bamba" had. Instead, the "Selena" pic just lay there.
Favorite Bands (in no particular order)
Beatles
Led Zeppelin
Kinks
Who
Fleetwood Mac (the "Rumours" lineup)
Creedence
Rolling Stones
Speaking of the Stones, you haven't lived until you've seen them live from the front row. I did, in 1989. A once in a lifetime experience.

Are there any recent bands anyone likes? NO? I didn't think so.

Beatles
Jimi Hendrix Experience
Led Zepellen
Cream
CCR
Pink Floyd (Barret era)
And...a bunch more like 'em

I had found a Selena tape on the road a year or two before she died. It was okay, I guess. While I was living in Illinois, I could've gone with this one girl to see her in Chicago. (I wish I had. To be with the girl, not to see Selena.) That was, I believe, the year she died.

Uh, actually Blitz, I like Marylin Manson, Type O Negative, Full Devil Jacket, Coal Chamber, Kittie and Union Underground. They're all fairly recent bands.

Uh, whatever...
*shakes head and backs away*

Blitz, Garbage is a great recent band.

My favorites include: Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, Tori Amos, The Police

There's others, but those really stick in my mind, right at this moment.

I also liked Culture Club and saw them three times in concert in the '80's. Boy George was always honest about his sexuality, and his "Be what you are" attitude. He wasn't as upfront about his drug abuse, but that is another matter.

I have to go with two bands that came from where I live; Athens, Georgia. Any guesses as to which two bands I'm refering?

Let me guess - one of the band's names is three letters and means a state of deep sleep.

I will make one suggestion, to anyone here who doesn't like Metal; go find anything by Queensryche (except the "Queen of the Reich" album; it blows, because they tried to cash in on the hair-band craze;it was their first album, though). Especially "Operation Mindcrime". There's also a song they did called "Silent Lucidity". I don't know the name of the album its on, because I don't have it. But the song is, well, I guess you could call it a ballad.

Queensryche have been called a "Cerebral Metal" band, and they deserve that appalation. The "Operation Mindcrime" album is basically a detective story, with each song representing a character or chapter of the story.

If anyone here HAS "Operation Mindcrime", my favorite track is "Eyes of a Stranger". I don't personally own the album, but I've heard it all the way through.

Incidentally, I only own two Rap albums: Run-DMC's "Raising Hell" (on cassette), which I got from someone who sold it to me for $2.00 back in High School, and MC Hammer's "Please Hammer, Don't Hurt `Em", which I got as a free selection when I joined a CD club MANY, MANY years ago (the cd was current at the time).


Also, I'd like some opinions. What do you think about cds that have 4 different versions of the same song on it? Do you think its crazy to buy one for half the price (or more) of a full album cd? (I do; I wanted to buy Crazy Town's "Butterfly", but I'd rather just tape it off the radio!)

Todd, REM is *NOT* a deep sleep. If you're in *DEEP* sleep, you're not dreaming. REM is the dream state.

Oh, I like Steely Dan, ZZTop, Bruce Springsteen&the E Street band, Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Clash.

The Ninth Amendment to the Music Board: Enumeration of certain bands in this post shall not deny or disparage the existence of other bands that I like.

Yup Give the man a cookie (as cigars are bad for ya). REM is one, B-52s is the other I mean, who can forget RuePaul in their "Love Shack" video?!

RuPaul was in "Love Shack"?

Blitz, sorry you don't like the idea that there are some modern bands that I like. If you look at the top of the page, I have my top ten acts listed. Only one debuted with the last ten to fifteen years. I personally cannot listen to the same handful of songs over and over. I need the variety. I've heard most classic rock songs 'til I'm about sick of them. It's why I don't listen to the radio. I may have a certain fondness for a lot of the stuff I grew up on, but I'm not yet willing give up on new bands, new songs. As the Who once put it, "The Music Must Change".

Yup, She He? Ill go the Star Trek New Frontier route here.... Hir was one of the dancers

>>Of course, the boy band craze will die.<<

What about those in the early '90's? Color Me Bad and Boys II Men? Several years later we still have "boy bands" ... can you give us a date or era in which the boy band craze will die?

(perhaps the two I mentioned were "the seed" and now we're seeing the fruits ...)

Dear god, I hope its soon, Derf.

The concept behind the boy band idea (producers in charge, "band" being simply pretty faces for the cover) has been around as early as Phil Spector or Motown. Given it's longevity so far, I don't think it's going to go away any time soon. Oh, the styles will probobly change plenty, but the idea will remain the same...

Oh, and Benn: It's not that I don't like the though of a "new band". I mean, I'm only 17, virtually all the bands I like are about twice as old as me. It's just that 99% of the current bands out there just aren't as good as the classic bands (that's why they're remembered as classics). Sure there are pleanty of new SONGS out there that I like, but that's just one song, and usually their best one at that. To me, a band has to be able to fill up a whole album with songs just as good at that one single, I just don't know of many people who can still do that. Also (good lord, I'm going on), there's the variety you mentioned; but for me, it keeps me away from the more current bands. First off, it seems to my untrained ear that 90% of all artists in a given style or clasification sound just like each other: drawing off the same gimmick. Then there's the actual quality of the music. Now I like noise; the sound of a guitar hitting an amp and splintering into a million pieces will all ways be music to my ears, but there needs to be more than that. I like voices in harmony with each other, when's the last time that happened outside of the cursed boy bands (I think they've placed a scarlet letter of sorts on harmony)? An then there's chords. I don't know too much about the actual prosses of writing music (I'm only now learning to play guitar), but I can still hear the difference between a song writen by some one who knows more than three chords and some one who dosen't. Most of the great sixties bands were well verced in "real" (read that: Mom and Dad's) music which was much more complicated that, say, Chuck Berry. Thus, their music was more complicated than that (not that I don't like Chuck Berry, mind you). On the other hand, the vast majority of modern rock songs seem writen around a single chord, with minor variations thruout. I can't speak for the rest of you, but that bores me out of my sckull.

*reads post*

WOW! Where'd all THAT come from?

I wasn't a fan, but I understand that Boyz II Men (note the spelling, Derf) was actually pretty good.

Well, if you weren't a fan...

The Boy Band craze has always been around, but it's always been cyclic in nature. Colour Me Badd and Boyz II Men were not as predominant as the Backseat Boys, 98 Disagree and *NStink. There were other more prevelant musical styles at the time. The late seventies did not have as many boy bands as the early half of the decade did. The early Sixties (The Phil Spector era) had more boy bands than the late Sixties. It comes and goes. The current wave, if it hasn't already peaked, will soon, and the next craze (whatever it will be) will appear. Disco died around the time Lipps Inc. put out "Funky Town", yet saw new life when Madonna arrived on the scene (it just got a new name).

I kinda understand what you're saying Blitz. But I'm 38. I grew up listening to a lot of those songs. So I'm at a point where I'm ready to hear something else. Part of the nature of "classic" is that it's been around awhile. It's stood the test of time. It's much too early to say whether Limp Bizkit's "My Way", "Closer" by nine inch nails, "...Baby One More Time" or any other recent tune will become a classic.

People who grew up listening to Fifties rock-n-roll will dismiss the Sixties and Seventies music as not being as good as it used to be. That's the way it will always be. Hell, that's the whole subtext of Don McLean's "American Pie", in the main, that the Fifties' Rock-n-Roll is the only music that matters. But it isn't true. Many of your generation, will have their roots in the music of Manson, Dr. Dre, Eminem, Britney, The Backstreet Boys and others. For better or worse.

As far as gimmicks in music are concerned, can we say KISS? Alice Cooper? The Sex Pistols? Jimi Hendrix? The Who? Screaming Jay Hawkins? Gimmicks have always been used to help distinguish an act. It's what they do afterwards that matters. The question is, in the long run, can they, say Marylin Manson and Eminem, rise above their respective gimmicks and prove themselves musically, or will they be forever dependent upon the gimmicks? That's something that only time will tell.

I have to say, that I was surprised to read that you're 17 (I saw it first in the Basin). When I first started listening to Rock, around '75, I would listen to 1190 KLIF, and a DJ named Hubcap Carter on KFJZ, I think it was. I'd also listen to KVIL, KZEW, and Q102. Basically I was listening to both what was going on now, and Golden Oldies (Fifties, early Sixties stuff.) I think I got a fairly decent foundation in rock. I think it's cool that you do listen to some of the stuff I grew up on. I just oppose the out of hand dismissal of current music. No offense intended.

That's the end of the lecture.

Wow, you rant as much as me...Anywho, I don't diss curent bands just for their "newness", I really do give them a good listen. Some of it isn't really that bad. Creed, U2, and one or two others who don't spring to mind at the moment are OK, just not as good as their predicesors. Also, I think you pined too much imphasis on what I said about "gimick". I didn't mean showmanship, that's all well and good. I ment musical gimickry. More specificly, hoping onto whatever style is the fad at the moment. But that's really beside the point. I just ment that most of the Rock and Roll currently being produced is SHOCKINGLY simple musicly and lyricly, especially when compared to the complexity and experementation of the sixties. Oh, and no offence taken.

By 1979, Paul McCartney & Wings, E.L.O., The Rolling Stones, Elton John, Rod Stewart and others had jumped on the disco craze, releasing disco songs/albums. Shortly after that, McCartney, Alice Cooper and Linda Rondstadt, among others went new wave. Hopping on musical trends as a gimmick is also nothing new.

As far as simplicity is concerned, some of the best rock is simple. That was part of the appeal of punk, it's simplicity.

I think things'll come around to where a certain amount of experimentation is back in vogue.

I've been hesitating about getting in on this because I don't think I can be as concise as I want to be. Hopefully there won't be too many tangents.

Benn and I are about the same age so we probably share the same experiences. We were teenagers when punk, new wave, avant-garage and all that stuff was happening. At the same time we were bombarded (as it still happens to this day) with the whole "classic rock" format. Ones very generational culture can be quite influential during those years, and mine seemed to be one of verifiable transition. Either you were of the old school or you rejected it. Some of us loved both.

People who grew up listening to Fifties rock-n-roll will dismiss the Sixties and Seventies music as not being as good as it used to be. That's the way it will always beAnd so it goes...I agree to a certain extent, though you must admit that "classic rock" radio format is far different from enjoying classic rock and roll, which constantly evolves as current music does. <<this topic may require its own board>>I hate to use the old stereotype that they've been using the same 30 songs for 30 years but it's true. In NY we have a station WNEW and there's nothing new about it! And it galls me that when there was this whole upheaval in the 70's and 80's they were nowhere to be seen. And they're still doing it today. What started out as a way of promoting the new and up and coming generation of musicians has, in the hands of the baby boomers, become the establishment.

I've got nothing against people having an affection for the music that they've grown up with, I do the same thing and probably for the same reasons: good music transcends generations and other such boundaries. But c'mon, even Ray Davies must be saying "I've written dozens of great songs, please play more than Lola!!!"

But, most importantly, I am always open to new and wonderful experiences and continue to be amazed. There is new stuff out there, but you may not be looking in the right places. Radio should be a great one but rarely is, too corporate. I wish I had the net when I was young, it's a great tool.

Interestingly, I did just get turned onto somebody new today on the radio, though it was public radio: Johnny Dowd blew my mind, definitely getting some of his stuff, I haven't been this jazzed since I heard that Patty Griffin was working with Jay Joyce.

So that we don't get too off topic for this board:

Faves-
Richard Thompson
Bob Mould and all incarnations (Huskers, Sugar)
Bruce Cockburn
Van Morrison
Sandy Denny
Pavement

I love Husker Du's New Day Rising album! "I Apologize" "Ways to Skin a Cat" and "Books About UFOs" are great tunes.

Bruce Cockburn has two songs I really love, "Wondering Where the Lions Are" and "If I Had A Rocket Launcher". Both are lost hits. We really need a board for lost hits, and as you say, Mike, one to discus the state of rock-n-roll.

One thing I'll say in Blitz's favor, he doesn't seem to be stuck listening to the same handful of songs dished out by the classic rock stations. Judging by his list of favorite songs over on the Basin board, he's actually immersed himself in the music, which I think is good.

Thank you. I would never want anyone to think that I only condone listening to the same set of song over and over. In fact, I've found that the more obscure songs by a band are, to my ear, often better that the "classic" ones. For example, The Who's "A Quick One" contains two John Entwistle songs (five actually, if you count the bonus CD tracks, which I won't for simplisity's sake): the legendary "Boris The Spider" and the less well known "Whiskey Man". You're welcome to disagree with me, but I'm firm in my belief that "Whiskey Man" is a vastly superior composition. "Classic" rock stations that play the same set of songs get on my nerves as well, for the most part, they seem limited to those "thirty songs" mentioned earlier. For this reason, I don't really listed to radio that much, I'll just go buy the album thank you.

In the stations' defence, however, I should point out that not all classic rock stations are as closed minded. 1061 RDU here in North Carolina, while still well versed in the classics, also plays a healthy dose of more current artists like Stevie Ray Vaughn, Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, 3 Doors Down, and more. Plus, they also remember to play any new songs the older artists put out (though they seem to have boycotted U2's newer stuff).

All in all, I think what I've been trying to say is that I don't have a problem with new bands, I just wish they sounded more like '60s ones. Jimi Hendrix and The Beatles and their contemporaries simple sound better that most of the current bands. If somebody came along that was a dead ringer for Jimi Hendrix or The Beatles or whoever, I'll be more than happy to give them a listen. If no one does, however...Well, I'm learning guitar as we speak!

One thing I'll say in Blitz's favor, he doesn't seem to be stuck listening to the same handful of songs dished out by the classic rock stations.
I concur wholeheartedly. I wasn't directing anything specifically towards Blitz. It's the "format" thing that I object to.

1061 RDU here in North Carolina, while still well versed in the classics, also plays a healthy dose of more current artists like Stevie Ray Vaughn, Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, 3 Doors Down, and more. Plus, they also remember to play any new songs the older artists put out (though they seem to have boycotted U2's newer stuff).
True, but they usually do that more because they have to, begrudgingly giving in to the focus groups and all. They still don't cultivate new talent by any means. And it usually takes a while for the songs to make it onto the playlists (which may explain the recent U2 absence).

I love Husker Du's New Day Rising album! "I Apologize" "Ways to Skin a Cat" and "Books About UFOs" are great tunes.
yeah, it's an all out classic all right. One of the best discs I've heard. Can't be over-hyped." ...we feed the cats to the rats and the rats to the cats and we get the cat skins for free..." Pure zen. And you left out "Celebrated Summer".

I could go on for a long time about Bruce Cockburn, perhaps I'll start a board when I've got more time so long as there may be interest.


I just wish they sounded more like '60s ones.

If you're in the mood for a reccommendation, try Dear 23 by The Posies. Considered a classic by all who've heard it.

>>I wasn't a fan, but I understand that Boyz II Men (note the spelling, Derf) was actually pretty good.<<

Actually, my daughters turned me on to Color me Bad and Boyz II Men ... yes, they ARE pretty good bands ... (thanks for the spelling correction .. my daughters will hold you in ineffable esteem )

Mike! Dear 23 by the Posies! I love that album! I saw them opening for The Replacements on the 'Mats final tour. Their songs blew me away! "Suddenly, Mary" and "Flood of Sunshine" are the best two cuts on that album. I get swept away by the guitar solos on "Sunshine"! Ringo Starr's even done a cover of their song "Golden Blunders" on his Time Takes Time album.

Benn, I vividly remember the first time I heard Dear 23. It was on my car stereo, how's that for fortunato? I went to the CD shop with a friend of mine and we bought a bunch of discs- HE was the one who bought Dear 23 and convinced me to play it on the way back to my place. Well...you've heard it so you can probably relate that we drove about 30 miles out of our way hoping that it would never end. And then "Flood of Sunshine" comes on...amazing.

I didn't buy my own copy until the next weekend, but we did play it on the home stereo immediately afterwards.

I'd love to hear Ringo doing "Golden Blunders" (aside: isn't this what Napster is supposed to be all about? I hope I can find it there.)

Anyway, there was this whole vaguely underground "agressive pop" thing happening in the early to mid nineties and I miss it. Lots of very talented folks: Jason Falkner and his bands- Jellyfish and the Grays, Posies, Eels, etc. It's a shame that they didn't really catch on, a lot of people missed out on some great music.

Yeah, I need to get a new copy of the Ringo album. I lost mine a few years back. Fortunately, I know a place that has a few copies for $3.99. I'll try to pick it up this week.

After I get done here, I'll get Dear 23 out and play it. It's been awhile.

Merat, have you heard R.E.M.'s Reveal yet? Is it any good? I was so disappointed by Up I haven't bothered with the new one yet. Personally, I think R.E.M. has gone downhill since signing with Warner Bros. Although Automatic For the People is excellent.

BF, I used to have Operation: Mindcrime. I need to get a new copy of it, too. Right now the only Ryche album I have is Empire. I love the title cut. "Jet City Woman" is also good.

Blitz, I'm not too fond of The Who's A Quick One album. It's okay. The Who Sell Out is the better pre-Tommy album IMO. But with The Who, I can suddenly find myself in love with a song of theirs I never much cared about before. That's why they rank so high on my list.

Mr. Iko, I apologize. I just realized I was calling you Mike, when your name is Miko. I am very sorry, sir.

Just for the record, I don't like any of the solo material I've heard by Roger Daltrey or Pete Townsend.

Benn, I completely forgot about Empire! You're right. That song is good. Jet City Womanis okay, but my favorite Ryche song is Eyes Of A Stranger.

And is just me, but are half the bands that are called "Alternative" really just "Grunge Metal" or "Rap Metal"? StainD, Disturbd, KoRn and Limp Bizkit, for instance.

Ah man. I like several of Roger's & Towser's solo stuff. Now Daltrey has yet to put out a consistently good album, but songs such as "Martyrs and Madmen", "Walking In My Sleep", "Under a Raging Moon", "Hearts On Fire", "Free Me" and "After the Fire" (written by Pete Townshend) are great. Townsehend's White City: A Novel is excellent. Particularly such cuts as "Face the Face", "Give Blood" and "Crashing By Design". All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes is also good, the highlight of that album is "Slit Skirts". And of course, "Rough Boys" is superb. Actually, Empty Glass is also a good record. But The Iron Man is... wanting. It's redeemed by the presence of The Who on "Dig". I haven't gotten Psychoderelict and probably never will, though.

The term for KoRn, StainD, Disturbed, Limp Bizkit, et al is "nu-metal", I believe. It seems like I saw that term on the cover of Spin last year.

Mr. Iko, I apologize. I just realized I was calling you Mike, when your name is Miko. I am very sorry, sir.
...And I was getting impressed with your keen insight Either one is fine, really (just not Mr. anything)


After I get done here, I'll get Dear 23 out and play it. It's been awhile.
Funny thing, Benn, I just put New Day Rising in my car in anticipation of the morning commute. Thanks. Now I'm looking forward to monday morning.

Sorry, but I'm a native Texan. Back when I grew up you were taught sir, ma'am, Mr. Mrs., etc. It's not true any longer...

Yeah, I enjoyed hearing Dear 23 again. Right now I'm listening to another disc I haven't heard in awhile, The Copulatin' Blues. Some very raunchy, very graphic, old time blues. Some of it is very, very funny. The song playing now is "If I Can't Sell It, I'll Keep Sitting On It (Before I Give It Away)". The best tracks are "Shave 'Em Dry", "Yas! Yas! Yas!" and "Don't You Make Me High". The biggest names on it are Tampa Red, Alberta Hunter and Jelly Roll Morton. It's worth having if you can find it.

Sounds like Bo Carter of "Banana in Your Fruit Basket" and "Smoke My Cigarette" fame...

I'm gonna see some Texans this summer, The Flatlanders are playing a few dates in the NY Metro area. I haven't seen Jimmie Dale Gilmore since Spinning Around the Sun.

If somebody came along that was a dead ringer for Jimi Hendrix or The Beatles or whoever, I'll be more than happy to give them a listen

Hey Blitz, it just occurred to me that you'd probably get a real charge out of Eric Gales' version of "I Want You (She's So Heavy)", done in the style of Jimi Hendrix and pretty d*mn intense IMHO. Well worth seeking out.

Bo Carter is on that Copulatin' Blues disc. He does "Please Warm My Weiner". I've got a similar CD called Raunchy Business: Hots Nuts & Lollypops that also has Bo on it, too. His "Banana In Your Fruit Basket" is on it, along with "My Pencil Won't Write No More".

I'd rather not see someone who's a dead ringer for Jimi, the Beatles, or whoever, myself. That shows a lack of creativity to me. It's one thing if they're influenced by them (although Oasis carries their Beatles influence a little too far), it's another to be a clone of them. It's why I don't like Kenny Wayne Sheppard. He still hasn't given up trying to be Stevie Ray Vaughan. Stevie was influenced by Jimi, and could, if he wanted to, sound like Hendrix, but he wasn't trying to be Jimi. NowhatImeen?

. His "Banana In Your Fruit Basket" is on it, along with "My Pencil Won't Write No More".
Ahhh yes...the giants...(to paraphrase our favorite Vulcan.) I should've guessed that a record called "Copulatin' Blues" couldn't be assembled without the Bo-man.

Totally agreed, Benn, regarding your SRV comments. Definitely know whatcha mean.

I hate being grouped with my peers. I'm 16, and I HATE SPICE BOYS!! They're tone-deaf white boys who can't sing, dance, or do anything except look pretty.


But the WORST is Britney Spears, aka the Silicone Queen. She sounds like a frog [I'm being nice], dresses trashy [be nice, cyn... be nice...], and is a general tramp. [VERY nice right there].

The only 'teeny' singer who has actual singing talent is Christina Aguilera. That girl has an incredible voice.

Still, they all ••••.

ScottN--I was a fan of Boyz II Men. I'm 16, so of course I did. Yes, they were very good. They weren't a 'boy band' like we have now. They were on the Motown label, and were an R&B group, not prefabricated bubblegum.

Bands/Artists I like now [in no particular order]:

Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Aerosmith
Rolling Stones
Beatles
Metallica
Megadeth [don't know real well...only heard some of their stuff]
Nine Inch Nails [ditto]
Marilyn Manson [see above]
Elton John
Destiny's Child
I like a lot of softer stuff, too...just not my day
etc.

I'm not sure, but I think someone asked. Selena died in late March, 1995.

Interesting choices Cyn. While I don't have anything by Destiny's Child right now, and only one Megadeth disc (Countdown To Destruction), the rest of your bands are well represented in my collection.

I could've probably have guessed the year Selena died, if I'd've put some thought into it, but definitely not the year.

Um, I think you mean "definitely not the month", don't you, Benn?

The only Megadeth disc I have is "Rust In Peace". And yes, I got it because of the song Hangar 18, but it has some other good tracks on it, too.

Incidentally, and you probably know this, Dave Mustaine wrote some of the songs on Metallica's "Ride The Lightning". Is it just me, or does the title track sound more like Megadeth than Metallica? (I thought it WAS Megadeth the first time I heard it)

(Annoyed grunt!} Yeah, I did mean "the month". Sigh. Oh vell...

I heard Metallica before I ever heard Megadeth. Couple that with the fact that I'm not that familiar with the Megadteh sound, well, "Ride the Lightning" has always sounded like Metallica to me.

Metallica's "Ride the Lightning" is ••••••• awesome. According to a friend of mine [who's a 20-year-old Metallica superfan] says it's their best one. I don't know; only other cd of theirs I have is "ReLoad."

*grinning at Benn* She was killed [or was it buried? •••• memory] March 31, 1995.

Showing off, are we dear?

The only Metallica I don't have is the S&M disc. I don't know that I'll ever get it either. As I've said elsewhere, my favorite Metallica album is ...And Justice For All. Then comes the decline of the band. "Low Man's Lyrics" is the only really good cut on ReLoad. To me, anyway. Hadn't played the thing in a couple of years, though.

Oh, that's why I thought she died in April. I didn't hear about it on the news until the following day. (I grew up in the same town she was born in. And despite what the movie would have you think, it *wasn't* Corpus Christi.)

Not showing off; I liked her.

Sorry. I've been on the PM boards.

Hey, I was only kidding about the "showing off" remark.

I'd had a stressful day on almost no sleep, and was so tapped out I wasn't thinking.

But the WORST is Britney Spears, aka the Silicone Queen. She sounds like a frog [I'm being nice], dresses trashy [be nice, cyn... be nice...], and is a general tramp. [VERY nice right there].

Thanks for restoring my faith in the youth of America's musical tastes, CC. I have a fifteen-year-old cousin who's absolutely blissed out on Britney and the Moffats (sort of a Canuck Hanson), and it's driving me crazy. I just can't believe that the little bubblehead is being pushed as some sort of Girl Power symbol...

(O'course, my cousin's fanship is predicated on my aunt's being convinced that Britney is just a wonderful role model for today's youth (she tends to believe what she reads in People magazine). Wonder how she's gonna handle the new 'I-met-with-Madonna'-style Spears?)

Anyway. Favorite bands/singers, in no particular order:

Barenaked Ladies (duh )
Blue Rodeo
Billy Joel
Alan Jackson
The Eagles
Alicia Keys (this one is new. I am absolutely in awe of this wonam's voice and presence)
Sheryl Crow
Jim Croce
The Beatles (an inheritance from my mom the original screeming-meemee Beatlemaniac)
Frank Sinatra
The Guess Who
Five for Fighting (OK, based on one song, Superman, but it's so beautiful...)

O'course, my cousin's fanship is predicated on my aunt's being convinced that Britney is just a wonderful role model for today's youth (she tends to believe what she reads in People magazine). Wonder how she's gonna handle the new 'I-met-with-Madonna'-style Spears?

Show your aunt the Rolling Stone cover. She was 16 or 17 at the time. Wearing nothing but hot pants and a push-up bra.

"Wonderful model," my ass. Let your aunt know the facts: her style of dress (more skin than a Brooklyn hooker), her singing ability (zippo), and this forward I received:

This is a list I wrote called top 10 reasons Britney Spears is a hypocrite. If you agree sign at the bottom and send it around. Post it if you
like. All I want is to get the info out there. I hope this will awaken a few more people. Here it is!

1)The whole Prince William thing. One Quote "He's so great. We e-mail each other all the time" Another quote "I've never met him. Someday I'd like to but I've never talk to him or anything" (Personally if you are going to lie stick with one lie)

2)The whole Justin Timberlake thing. We aren't dating, we are dating. Thank God they finally made up their minds. I even found in the same mag. one quote from her that said that they aren't dating and one that said they were. (I think the editor of that mag. should have been paying a little more attention.)

3)Her attire. Now everyone says she's just proud of her body, and she has a right, and yada, yada, yada. But the fact is I have a quote from her in
a mag. which she states "I would never wear a bra and hot pants." Yet note her attire in her recent music videos "Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know" and "I'm a Slave for You" (No, a bra and hot pants would have covered more!)

4)I also have a quote from her that says she would never get a tattoo and body piercing. She now has a tattoo on the small of her back and a
belly button ring.

5) She is aghast and can't seem to understand why old men find her attractive, yet look at what she wears!(Not all men over twenty five go blind!)

6)She also says that she is just doing what she wants, and is just expressing herself, and it's not her fault that small children look up to her, yet she puts out barbie dolls that sing when you press her stomach.(Last time I checked not many 15-25 year old guys or girls played with barbies)

7)Contradicting my last example, she also states in another mag. that she believes she is a good role model for children. (Yeah I want my children
acting and dressing like her.)

8) I told theses facts to a friend of mine (who is a huge Britney fan) and she agreed about my points and also told me that she found quotes from britney, stating after the relationship was confirmed, that one she said she loved Justin and in the other she said she wasn't so sure.(Justin on the other hand has never wavered on his feelings, or more importantly quotes on his feelings)

9) Also she says that the clothes she wears and the person she exposes on stage isn't really who she is. How the heck does she expect for anyone
to respect her if she can't do the simple thing of being herself. If she really is a person that likes jeans and T-shirts then maybe that's what she should wear on stage. (she use to wear that.) A little midrff is one thing. I really don't care if her stomach is showing. It's when her tit's are flying out and her butt's hanging out, and if she moves too much the whole thing might come undone and then it would be Britney seriously "uncovered".

If she isn't suggestive like that, then she shouldn't expose that kind of person to her audience. She should be real. ( Something Justin says is really important to him in a relationship and people in general, hhhhmmmmm, okay, so maybe he can have a hypocritical moment too.)

10)Finally, I believe she is personally disrespecting Justin and his fans. She portrays herself like a slut, and that's what Justin is dating. This kind of person is who he falls in love with. And all those little girls that are in love with Justin think, okay, to get Justin or a guy like Justin I have to look and act like Britney Spears. So now she isn't just telling her fans to look like this to be popular and to be found attractive, but Justin 's fans as well. Another thing, I seriously think she totally disrespected Justin in her recent video "Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know." I mean how does rubbing up and down some guy express what the
song is suppose to say. And what we see apparently isn't the worst of it because that video had to be edited by her mother.

Now if she is a great person, like one of my friends keeps telling me, then all I'm trying to say she should show that to everyone in what she
says, what she does, and how she shows herself to the world, because I don't know her personally, I can only go by what she exposes to me as the public.


Extra FAQ.

I was at an 'Nsync concert July 27th and Britney Spears was there.
While she stood in the VIP section talking to one of 'Nsync's bodyguards, tons of girls hung over the railings asking for pictures and autographs, and all she did was ignore them. One of the actors from "Clueless" was also there and he took tons of pics and sign autographs, and his job doesn't depend on it. I guess britney forgot that fans are what make her famous<<

I've heard that N'•••• concert story all over the net, from a bunch of people--also that she once was hanging all over Lance.

Most of my peers are teenyboppers, unfortunately, kerriem.

Ooh, one of my fave sites that's anti-teenybop:

Read the FAQ first, or you won't understand it. It's satire stories that are genius, but the FAQ is a must.

And join our little messageboard! I'm SportsChick.

Spice Girls Die Violent Deaths

My favorite bands/artists, in order:

1. Uriah Heep
2. The Rolling Stones
3. Pink Floyd
4. Moody Blues
5. Led Zeppelin
6. Asia
7. Deep Purple
8. Bruce Springsteen
9. Alice Cooper
10. Yes

Okay. I never got into music that much, but I'm exploring, slowly but surely.

1. "Weird Al" Yankovic
2. Elvis Presley
3. The Beatles
4. The Rolling Stones
5. Eric Clapton

Those are my solid, never-changing favorites. Now the list of artists and bands my favor rotates through would take up a bit too much space for a favorites list, so here's who I'm currently exploring and like.

Led Zeppelin
Ace of Base
Steve Winwood
Billy Joel
Celine Dion
Sam Cooke
Huey Lewis and the News
Enrique Iglesias

Hey, CC, I think your 'Spice Girls' link is broken. Could you try posting it again?

Some sad news as the month of October gets under way.

One down, and who knows how many more to go...

Now if only N*Sync, BackStreet, etc... would break up!

Well, we've already had Steps, who broke up late last year I think.

The article I linked to above also discussed "Popstars: The Rivals", where the two winning bands are expected to duke it out (sadly not literally, else I would have been glued to the set with anticipation) for the honour of Christmas #1 2002. In other words - get this - the favourite for Christmas #1 in the UK is - a boy band or girl band which doesn't exist yet! Takes hyperbole into a whole new dimension....

Cool! I think I will contribute to this board as well!

I break down my favorite rock groups by nationality. For example:

My favorite American bands:

1. Dave Matthews Band
2. R.E.M.
3. Nine Inch Nails
4. The Doors (Jim Morrison R.I.P.)
5. Talking Heads

My favorite Canadian bands:

1. Rush
2. Nickelback
3. Barenaked Ladies
4. Crash Test Dummies
5. Bachman-Turner Overdrive

My favorite English bands:

1. Def Leppard
2. Genesis (the Phil Collins led-sung one)
3. Yes
4. The Who
5. Pink Floyd
6. Level 42

My favorite Scottish bands:

1. Simple Minds
2. Big Country
3. Del Amitri
4. The Shamen
5. The KLF (they might not count, as Bill Drummond was born in South Africa, but raised in Scotland)

My favorite Irish bands:

1. U2
2. The Corrs

(I can't think of any other from Ireland right now)

My favorite German bands:

1. Rammstein
2. Scorpions
3. Kraftwerk
4. Puhdys
5. Megaherz
6. KMFDM (actually, they're German and American)

My favorite Italian band: Eiffel 65 (can't think of any others)

AND...my favorite Australian bands:

1. INXS (Michael Hutchence R.I.P)
2. Men At Work
3. Icehouse
4. Midnight Oil
5. Savage Garden
6. Silverchair
7. AC/DC (a bunch of Scottish dudes in this group!)

As for solo musicians, there are probably too many favorites of mine to all list here. A few:

UK:

Peter Gabriel
Phil Collins
Seal
Sting
Steve Winwood
Robert Palmer (R.I.P.)
Gary Numan
Elton John
Eric Clapton

US:

Moby
Stevie Ray Vaughan (R.I.P.)
Frank Zappa, with or without the Mothers Of Invention (R.I.P)
Billy Joel (despite the legal troubles he's gone through lately, he's still a good musician)
Michael McDonald
Don Henley
Donald Fagan

And believe me, a WHOLE lot more! I'm just really into music, I guess.

Will anyone else contribute here about their favorites? I'd like to read them!

Whoops. I forgot to mention that the former lead singer/guitarist of the former '70's and '80's new wave rock group Talking Heads, David Byrne, is Scottish. So, the heads were not TOTALLY American. Nothin' wrong with that!

Good ol' Dave has a few solo albums as well, but I have yet to hear them. They probably sound pretty good. (Kinda like Donald Fagen's post-Steely Dan solo stuff.)

There, that's all I wanted to say. For now, anyway!