The Grand Staff

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Music: Music Catch-Basin: The Grand Staff
By Benn on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 9:18 pm:

I've been threatening Derf that I'd do this for some time now. Well, here it is. The purpose of this thread is a general discussion of music. Anything anyone has a mind to talk about, whatever subject doesn't have its own thread and may not merit its own thread, that's what this'll be for.

To kick it off, I'd like to post this link to this Dallas Observer article about the recent meltdown of the Guns and Roses tour. I thought it was a pretty good article. It can be found here: http://dallasobserver.com/issues/2002-12-19/music.html/1/index.html


By the way, I'd like to thank Mr. Matthew Patterson for suggesting the name of this thread. As he pointed out to me, the Grand Staff is "The combined treble and bass clef on which piano music is written." Thanks Matt!


By Benn on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 9:29 pm:

Here's another Observer article that may be of interest to everyone: http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2002-12-05/music.html/1/index.html It's about The Funk Brothers, the subject of the recent documentary, Standing In the Shadow of Motown.


By ScottN on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 9:34 am:

This probably belongs in PM or Shameless Plugs, but what the hell....

My younger daughter is in this. (Requires RealPlayer).


By Benn on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 9:53 am:

That was nice, Scott. I could've done without Yoko's continuous interruptions, though. (Let the kids sing!) But still, very, very nice. Thanks for sharing it.


By Craig Rohloff on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 8:20 am:

Oh, yeah, there she is... (Ok, I don't know which one was your daughter, but congratulations to her all the same.)

Yoko: Shh! I'm trying to hear the kids sing!

Thanks, Scott, for sharing.


By ScottN on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 9:18 am:

Robin's the dark haired girl in the front row (good shot at around 1:43 into the clip).

Actually, Yoko's aged well.


By Benn on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 9:32 am:

"Actually, Yoko's aged well." - ScottN

Undoubtedly. I'm just grateful Yoko only talks in that clip. I mean, she could be singing.


By Benn on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 12:18 pm:

Wonderful. I just found out about a 60s band that has reunited. It's bad enough that Credence Clearwater Revival reformed sans John Fogerty (the only band member who really mattered), but they had to call themselves "Credence Clearwater Revisited". Ugh.

But it gets worse. There's now "The Doors 21st Century". No, the rumors that Jim Morrison faked his death aren't true. AFAIK, the Lizard King isn't a part of this reunion. The Doors 21st Century consists of Robbie Kreiger, Ray Manzarek, Stewart Copeland (of the Police) and Ian Astbury (of the Cult). Sigh. Do we really need this? Apparently the members of "The Doors" need the money.

Is original Doors' drummer John Densmore dead or is he just displaying the good sense and taste of not getting involved in this?

still playing - Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (Hey, it's a double disc set. I'm still on disc one.)


By Todd Pence on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 3:10 pm:

Actually, Densmore is planning to take legal action against the new Doors band to prevent them from using the name. In the seventies, the surviving Doors recorded two albums under the Doors name without Morrison.


By Benn on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 5:46 pm:

"In the seventies, the surviving Doors recorded two albums under the Doors name without Morrison." - Todd Pence

I think I've read about those. They were instrumentals, weren't they? They bombed, IIRC. I don't think they're still in print, are they?

BTW, it's good to hear John Densmore has some common sense. I feel sorry for anyone attending a Doors 21st Century concert who thinks they're going to be getting a taste of Doors' concert. Not even close. Nothing against Ian Astbury, mind you. I like the Cult. But Jim Morrison, Ian Astbury ain't. Jim Morrison was really the key component of the Doors.

np - Confusion Is Sex - Sonic Youth


By Benn on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 1:10 pm:

What are the guys of Spinal Tap up to these days? Well, nothing really. But the Folksmen on the other hand...

http://dallasobserver.com/issues/2003-04-24/stuff.html/1/index.html

np - All That You Can't Leave Behind - U2

"It's all one song." - Neil Young


By Benn on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 2:21 pm:

ROTFLMAO The Doors 21st Century is currently in the running to become the most litigated rock bands of all times. And all in such a very short time. Not only is John Densmore suing them, but so are Jim Morrison's parents. So is Morrison's common-law wife, Pamela Courson. And to top it off, so is Stewart Copeland, the band's drummer. Or, rather, Copeland was the drummer. He was sacked and that's the source of his lawsuit. This ought to be very interesting.

http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=121007

np - The Cars - the Cars

"It's all one song." - Neil Young


By Benn on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 2:25 pm:

And yet another piece of news that I've run across: Skinhead, er Sinead O'Connor is retiring this July. You mean she hasn't already?

http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=120900

np - The Cars - the Cars

"It's all one song." - Neil Young


By Benn on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 2:35 pm:

One more item. I think I'm gonna be sick. Jef Bek (sic), is planning to produce a rock opera based on Evel Knievel's life. Yo! Pete Townshend! See what you started?!

http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=120414

It's all one song." - Neil Young


By Todd Pence on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 1:15 pm:

>Yo! Pete Townshend! See what you started?!

Well, now, of course Pete didn't start the whole rock opera thing, although with Tommy he made it famous.

np - Pink Floyd - "More" soundtrack


By Paul Joyce on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 5:02 pm:

>> What are the guys of Spinal Tap up to these days? Well, nothing really. <<

Well, you can still hear Harry Shearer's voice on The Simpsons.


By ScottN on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 8:01 pm:

>> What are the guys of Spinal Tap up to these days?

11.


By Benn on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 9:46 pm:

"Well, now, of course Pete didn't start the whole rock opera thing, although with Tommy he made it famous." - Todd Pence

Which is why I used Towser's name for the joke. Besides, I think it can be argued that the success of Tommy is what lead to other rock operas. One might say Towser perfected the form enough to make the concept commercially viable.

np - Lovegod - the Soup Dragons

"It's all one song." - Neil Young


By Paul Joyce on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 6:06 am:

OT - I just realised that was the second Simpsons reference I made within an hour on these boards. Better be careful or I'll find myself in hot water with the Chief...:)


By Adam Bomb on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 1:34 pm:

Warren Zevon died on 9/7/03, of inoperable lung cancer. He lived long enough to complete his last album, The Wind, which was released on 8/26/03.


By ScottN on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 1:39 pm:

See "The Day the Music Died".


By Tom Vane on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 7:12 am:

I really don't know where else to put this, but here is a hysterical list of real band names.


By Benn on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 10:39 am:

Some of those bands, I've actually heard of. (A$$ Ponys, for one. And of course, ? and the Mysterians is the Michigan garage band famous for "96 Tears".) Some of those are pretty funny - Cindy Brady's Lisp, Goldfish Don't Bounce (really? Who'd've thunk it?), Earthpig and Fire, Jehovah's Witness Protection Program, Shirley Temple of Doom, etc. Revolting Cocks (Revco) and 1000 Homo DJs are offshoots of Al Jourgeson's main band, Ministry.

np - Ascenseur pour l'Échafaud - Miles Davis

"Music is a world within itself and a language we all understand." - Stevie Wonder


By MrPorter on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 7:02 pm:

I've heard of a bunch of 'em too, and I was laughing out loud through the list. Thanks for the link- though (and this may be my parental spidy sense kicking in, but...) I think it should be made clear that children shouldn't be clicking onto that site. And I guess that also means that my absolute favorites won't be listed here...:) Benn already claimed the tame ones...


By Tom Vane on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 7:52 am:

I just found (okay, I found it several years ago) this great site where you can listen to loads of free music (no, you can't download it) and I think some videos. It's at this link. Sure, the whole site is in Dutch but that shouldn't prevent you from finding anything.


By Benn on Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 9:38 pm:

I was at a Waldenbooks at the mall in Mattoon, Ill-annoy and noticed the cover story for the current issue of Rolling Stone: "50 Moments That Changed the History of Rock & Roll". I haven't read the article yet (no, I didn't buy the mag. I'm looking at it on RS' website), but the events are as follows (at least the fifteen that can be found here: Fifty Moments That Changed Rock & Roll) -

  1. Elvis Presley at Sun Studio in 1954 (duh)
  2. James Brown at the Apollo in 1962
  3. Dylan Goes Electric in 1965
  4. The Doors at the Whisky in 1966
  5. Making Sgt. Pepper in 1967
  6. Woodstock in 1969
  7. The Stones in Exile in 1972
  8. Led Zep Rule the U.S. in 1973
  9. Springsteen Breaks Out in 1975
  10. The Death of John Lennon in 1980
  11. Madonna at the VMAs in 1984
  12. N. W.A. Outta Compton in 1989
  13. Nirvana's Punk Revolution in 1991
  14. Eminem's Says His Name in 1998
  15. Teen Pop Takes Off in 2000


You know, quite honestly, listing rap artists is going a bit far. I don't honestly think rap can be seriously considered a part of RockandRoll. I mean, yes, R&B, soul, or blues can be. Even Country, as all of these forms contributed to the creation of RockandRoll. But rap isn't even a real offspring of Rock, is it? Then again, as Marilyn Manson and the Who put it, "Rock is dead". Keep in mind, I'm not dissing rap. I like some of it. But "it ain't what I call rockandroll." (To paraphrase Mark Knopfler. )

Well, I guess I'll start reading the articles. If I have any thoughts, guess what? I'll post them. (You knew that was coming, didn't you? )

np - Chicago IX Greatest Hits - Chicago (It's an all Seventies weekend, boys and girl.)

"Music is a world within itself and a language we all understand."


By John A. Lang on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 7:46 pm:

What ever happened to the very sexy Laura Branigan?


By Tom Vane on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 7:52 am:

Now that Metal Sludge has changed domains, the "real band names" link doesn't work anymore. They haven't put it on the new site either, but that will hopefully be temporary.

Speaking of Metal Sludge, why don't you check out the Exposed section? Everyone here should get a good laugh out of those old photos of members of Pantera, Slayer, Korn, Marilyn Manson, Godsmack, Alice in Chains, and several others.


By Benn on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 12:49 am:

Found out on this weekend's Dr. Demento Show that there's a movement to get Weird Al Yankovic inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. If you're interested in learning more, then all you need to do is go here and click on Al's face.

And if anyone else is interested in listening to Dr. Demento on the web, you can learn what stations carry the program here. Personally, I've been using The Loop out of Chicago on Sunday Nights.

Just thought I'd pass that along. And remember everyone - "Stay DeeeMented!"

"Music is a world within itself and a language we all understand."


By Benn on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 8:22 pm:

Famed recording studio Muscle Shoals is closing.

"Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers/They've been known to pick a song or two." - "Sweet Home Alabama" - Lynyrd Skynyrd


By John A. Lang on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 12:15 pm:

What ever happened to Cyndi Lauper?

The last time I heard, she got married.

BTW...I STILL miss Laura Branigan! :(

Never got to kiss her!


By Benn on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 12:52 pm:

I saw Cyndi in concert back in 2002, I believe it was. Good show.

If you wanna know more about wa'sup with the She-Bopper, go to Cyndi Lauper's official website.

np - "Shoot for the Moon" - Poco

"Music is forever." - Paul Simon


By ScottN on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 1:33 pm:

Cyndi is probably (like all girls) just wanting to have fun :)


By Rodney Hrvatin on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 2:20 am:

Cyndi is probably (like all girls) just wanting to have fun- ScottN

yes indeed, and time after time she is good enough for me! (Aye-yi-yi-yi-yiii)


By Todd Pence on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 4:48 pm:

http://www.futurerockhall.com/blog.html

Is there anyone out there left who believes the Crock and Roll Hall of Shame has any credibility?


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