WOO-HOO!

Wiigii!

I was hoping the Frank storyline was all happening in Insane's head. (That would have been an interesting twist.)

BTW who made the claim that Absurd was on the side of the Dark Franks? If anything, he would be on the side on the Light Franks. As Kira recently reminded me, you're not supposed to turn another person's character into a villain without their consent.

Also in the last encounter with the Franks, they were defeated and most of their power seemed to be crushed, now they seem to be back at apparently the same power. What happened?

No-one made the claim that Absurd was on the side of the Dark Franks. I said that Absurd didn't mind there being several Franks around, but at that point no-one knew that they were dark Franks.

It would have been an interesting twist that it was all inside Insane's head, but the other authors wouldn't like to be told that they were writing about dreams when they thought they were writing about their characters.

Frank Praetorius (I know you hate him) brought them back to power.

Would anyone mind if I destroyed Earth? It would force the LICC to stop going there, it would open up plots on how to revive it, and would "Shake up" the show a bit. If anyone has another plot that demands Earth, I'll hold off on it.

Artsy's Arthor: Taken out side the proper context of a parody, it could be offensive. However, within it's context of being a parody about a article agaist certian video games, I doubt any would find it offensive. If you want offenive

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Quote:

Tacoman: What should we do?
Donna: How about the Tibetian Gambit? It's where we vest all spiritual and temporal power in a pacifist twelve year old boy, claim that he's a god, let the Franks invade, claiming we are too •••••• to rule ourselves, and let Richerd Gere get us out of this.

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Actually Pesti I have one. Ironically it involves the destruction of Earth.

And that quote is incrdibly offensive to Buddhists.

Brian Webber: Oh, good, perhaps we should form a "Terracide Foundation". Better than sending a stock Demon lord to destroy Earth.

So is eating beef.

Would anyone mind if I destroyed Earth?

I suspect that the people living there might

Let's hold off the destruction of Earth for a while, shall we? Having it be threatened by Franks and then blown up in rapid succession is too much too close.

But if we don't get rid of it, we will just keep going back to it.

Not now!

Actually I wasn't 'just gonna blow it up." I was gonna do it with some class, and leave room for evacuation. An actuall story as opposed to "...and then the Earth blew up." at the end of a post. Kind of like Earth by David Brin.

BRI-AAAAAAAAAAAAN!

Come on, Webber, we're in the middle of a storyline here! You can't just create something more important and get evryone to forget what's already going on. Wait until one story's finished before you start a new one. It's just common politeness.

PAD-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY!

4 weeks paddy. 4 weeks. LICC has PLENTY of time to finish the current stroyline!

Plus I wanted to head off Pesti's plan.

OK, Paddy and I have reached a deal in Reddochat. JD, we think it would be best if you rmeoved my Black Hole post, then put it back up as soon as the Frank storyline is over. Is that doable?

I suppose so, but I would advise against the destruction of Earth. If some posters remember, the Earth HAS been threatened before by the appearance of a black hole, and that threat was neatly removed by the Qs because the destruction of Earth would have disastrous effects on the future.

Besides, I kinda like the Earth. It's a nice planet. We certainly can devise some other solution to keep the League from mucking around Earth in the future. Something interesting. And couldn't any Earth-destroying story be adapted for Alpha Centauri II or somewhere?

Maybe we could clear it for a hyperspace bypass...

Hears several groans.

An alternate universe Earth, perhaps?

We certainly can devise some other solution to keep the League from mucking around Earth in the future. - JD

Q, Who, anybody? Voyager, anybody?

Matt, Brian & any other Earth-haters out there. ;-)

You cannot destroy the Earth in the 31st century because we know it exists in the 64th century!!!

Now you can destroy the Earth in the 65th century, or a parallel Earth, or an alternate Earth or a duplicate Earth, or even a paper-mache Earth, but you can't destroy the REAL Earth (Well real for LICC, anyway) or the NitPolice will come and arrest you!

As for Earth storylines, I think they should be limited. There should be some good reason why the story is set on Earth & not some other planet. Something involving the backstory of a character who is from Earth, (i.e. "We dug up a time capsule from Port Mike in the 2030's & found a note addressed to Tacoman...") would be okay. However if it is not VITAL that the story be set on Earth, then please don't.

(Frankly I'm not sure why Paddy involved Earth in the Frank storyline, although a recent post seems to indicate it involves some old plot of Paddys.)

Personally I think a threat to some planet we never, or rarely, heard about works better as we DON'T KNOW if the planet will survive or not. Will LICC succeed or fail? If it's Earth, well, duh, of course they'll succeed. Webber V on the other hand... who knows?

BTW Paddy, I figured out a way to demolish the Dark Franks.

FYI The 'fact' that Mr. Obvious & Mr. Absurd's first & middle names are Frank Lee comes from 1 post on LICC VIII by The Frank Answer Men. Absurd & Obvious never said if that was right or not.

BTW Paddy, I figured out a way to demolish the Dark Franks. - KAM

Don't go ahead with it. Since I, in effect, created the Dark Franks, unless you tell me your idea privately and I give you permission I can't permit it.

Ah, but who says we can't bring it back?

Not being able to defeat certain characters. Kind of eliminates the purpose of a free-for-all board, doesn't it?

I know it's a rule, but still...

We can do something that would wipe out a lot of Franks, right? Just not all of them or important ones like Praetorius.

I think that would break the rule that heroes shouldn't be too powerful. If the LICC can wipe out millions with the push of a button, where's the excitement?

Pesti, if you're going to destroy the Earth just to bring it back, then what is the point? There's absolutely no drama to that whatsoever.

It's like all the time JD has pulled the 'Oh, it looks like Milkshake is dead' nonsense. The last 300 times he's pulled it my reaction has been, *yawn* "How long until he brings him back THIS TIME?" No drama whatsoever.

On a related note in Reddochat Padawan, Jon & I have decided that the next storyline will involve the Pesti Worldship about to crash into Webber V. Will LICC save the day? Will all the people be evacuated? Will both worlds be destroyed???

We did? I remember Webber V and it's religion of Pesti Worship, but nothing about crashing... Pesti Worship with a side dish of Webber veneration...

It was WORLDSHIP, not WORSHIP.

It's like all the time JD has pulled the 'Oh, it looks like Milkshake is dead' nonsense. The last 300 times he's pulled it my reaction has been, *yawn* "How long until he brings him back THIS TIME?" No drama whatsoever.

Oh now...well, I guess you're right. Just a plot device, old boy, but I suppose it has been stretched too far. I'll have to think up new and interesting things to showcase Steve's emerging Q powers...

Well, we would spend a couple of plots bringing it back. In any case, I really don't care what we do with the planet. Just get away from it. I'm sick of "Best of Both Worlds" endings. I do have a mechanism for driving the LICC from Earth. Let's just say a group of Congressmen are upset with the cost factor.

OK, there will be no naming of things (i.e. planets, asteroids, comets, or aliens) after ME. Got that?

As for what paddy said about Milkshake, he's absolutely. Next time JD kills him, let's just keep him dead. Not that I'd be happy about it. I happen to like Milkshake. But like I said, Paddy's right.

Paddy didn't say anything about Milkshake, KAM did...

And I promise. Next time he dies, that's it.

You could always have a group of redshirts form a cult around him.

But then the redshirts would die, and not Milkshake.

And no, I am not Peter.

By Screenplay: INT: DROPSHIP
Shot of the various team memebrs, sitting in their seats, cramped together. Close-ups on each one, Insane, Kiehart, Artsy, Observer, Ansh, Enesku, Adon, Butrfli, Donna. The camera lingers on Donna longer than on the others.


Umm, excuse me? Is Rikard not important enough? Too normal? Is everyone mad that he quite unintentionally started the Light-side Force-user trend? Did he use the transporter? Is he piloting?

Yes, I did write almost the same thing on both boards. Sorry.

Sorry, I forgot he was coming. Oh, and read Kiehart's post closer. The dropship was suppsoed to be launched once the Spider hd entered Earth's atmosphere, and that's what was depicted in the screenplay.

Okay, it's official. Artsy can't go on an important mission without getting hurt! :-P I guess *someone* has to make up for all our nearly-invincible superheros....

You aren't alone in doing this. For a while I had Jadlad in sickbay every other appearance it seemed like.

I had meant to type Worldship, but it came out Worship by mistake in Reddochat, I did correct it, however. (Although with all the religious stuff Pesti has been putting in his posts lately...)

Oh, come on Brian, it's a win/win situation. You get to tell your LICC evacuating a doomed world story & we get to make fun of you. "Remember, Webbers wobble, but they don't fall down."

Nah. We were just joking around in Reddochat. That's not the next storyline.

I guess the next storyline is we go to DinseyPlanet & discover that it's the old Walt Wonderfuland theme park bought out by Dinsey. Finally the frozen body of Walt Wonderful will rise again! Muhahahahaha!!!

I thought P.E.T.R. was a cannaballistic organization, People Eating Tasty Redshirts.

Well it's time to get Artsy some armor. Iron Artsy - she fires paint balls out of her gauntlets, her jet trail leaves rainbow-colored smoke, and it comes equipped with a sidecar for Quito.

LOL,KAM!

I don't think so, but that was a pretty funny picture I got from your description.

Does that mean I don't have to get down on my knees before Mr. Webber?

Hey, Rikard's been in Sickbay too! He's been in there a few times. He's been in a coma before. Then again, who hasn't?

And Butrfli's been there too.. she works there

Let's make Artsy a Jedi.

What religious stuff? Donna's sword is named Jesus, which means "Savior". Apt name for a sword. Gee, If you thinks that's religous, you don't want to be there when she's possessed by Kali, builds her own Golem, starts using biblical code, or calls a Jihad. And when she starts performing miracles...

Let's make Artsy a Jedi

H*ll, let's just make everyone a Jedi (except for the wizards).

No f*cking superheroes around here, anymore.

We could get Artsy a Cybersuit with all sorts of art features on it...

A pink fluffy cybersuit...

Oh, PUKE! No pink and fluffy, Furby--you have a sick mind ;)

And Artsy is staying just the way she is (well, maybe one exception, haven't decided on that yet). At the risk of catering to the masses (ie, PO'd KNIT Viewer), I like superheros retaining their original power type.

And we have TOO MANY Jedi already!

Hey, a while ago on one of the Phantom Returns boards Pesti made a list of types of superhero. We could work out what type everyone is using that!

If you highlight the Frank names in my newest Jadlad post you'll see the actor's name beside them (Not that you really need too).

Jadlad's powers have changed little (if at all) from the way they were when I introduced him. So he's staying like he is.

We have plenty of Jedi.

Artsy, glad you liked the joke.

A Worshipper, you could, but that's how the Lewinsky scandal got started. Ziiiiiiiiiiip!

Pesti, well, hell, why don't we name all the weapons after religious figures? From now on the Spidermobile has twin disintergrator cannons name Jehovah & Yawah; an amored assault tank named Allah, and a world-destroying bomb named Buddha. when people complain we'll say, "Hey! They're JUST names."

I think there are too many Jedi & too many magicians.

As for the ranks of vulnerable heroes:
Hamburgermiester & Burger Boy were blowed up (They blowed up real good.)

Dust-Speck Man was squashed.

Hamburger Pattie had her nails ruined by an explosion. ;-)

Adon has been poisened, knocked out & I think a few other things.

PikaQ was nearly killed in the Q War.

Mr. Obvious was in a coma.

The female redshirt who became Crimson Crossbow suffered all sorts of little injuries.

Soyburger Patricia passed out from her injuries when she brought Quito on board & later after she had been kidnapped from the LICC dimension returned showing numerous injuries.

I think there are too many Jedi & too many magicians.

Hear hear!

I'll try not to take that the wrong way. *g*

Oh, and Quantum Man is vulnerable, it's just that there's a chance they'll miss him. He also has been unconscious from overdoing it (Comet episode, I believe). Plus, if the baddies use a quantum inhibitor (like Prof. Negative did), he's basically a normal human.

The Thing with magicians is that are so many kinds from so many different games, books and series. However, there is only one kind of Jedi, with almost no variation. It's like teaching everyone karate.

I suggest a new rule. Now please bear with me.

3 D n Rs.

What that means is that characters are limited to 3 deaths and resurrections.

This rule, if approved would be posted with the other rules up front.

There is an exception however. Robots, since they can be re-built, get 9 D n Rs.

Now for those of you who've killed off and brought back their characters numerous times before, worry not. this rule, if implemented would NOT be retroactive. Once the new rule is in place, it will be assumed that all characters have been killed and brought back a grand total of ZERO times.

Please discuss the benefits and limitatiosn of this proposal amongst yourselves, and let JD know once you've reached a decision.

Thank you for your time.

Actually, if you think about it, Steve Milkshake has never....not once...actually DIED.

He's been...
Exploded (by the Nova Bomb during the fight with Darth Viper, saved by a quick dimensional jump)
Phasered (by Frank Praetorius, saved by a Q-teleport)
Blasted (by the Security Bot on Negative's Asteroid Base, saved by a Q-teleport)
and Wounded (bunch of times, recovered)

But never actually KILLED.

Just thought I'd point that out.

And Bri, I like your ideer.

Except for RR, oh, I mean Robot Redshirt. We should let him die as much as he wants. Besides, I like his character.

poor observer. everyone keeps getting in the way. he just can't be artsy's hero, can he?

Aha! The Observer boobytrapped the spellchecker to kill Qunicy before the big date, because Observer wanted Artsy all to himself! It's all beginning to make sense now.

Now, where was The Observer when President Kennedy was shot? Hmmm...

Thanks, Josh. Although Robot Redshirt doesn't die as much as HE wants to, he dies as much as HIS AUTHOR wants him to.

Webber, how do you define Death for a robot? They're not alive in the first place. If the body is destroyed their programming can be put into a new body & if their programming is erased new programming can be put into the same body. Heck, even if a robot were tossed into a star destroying both body & programming an identical looking & identically programmed robot could simply be built.

Jedi Crewmembers
Rikard (the first I believe)
The Observer (mentioned he was one after Rikard mentioned it)
Insane (was offered the chance to become a Frank Knight, although if he is as powerful as the Observers think why not just do his own thing?)
Ansh (just seemed like jumping on the bandwagon. She's an engineer, why not invent weapons?)
Inspector Mystery (I never understood why Mystery felt the need to add Jedi to his resume.)
Ojanon (technically, since Lifeblood Sorcerors are offshoots of Jedis, but at least BF tried to do a variation)

BTW Obsy, is Observer's former teacher Keeran the same Keeran that is on TKOS?

Magical Crewmembers
Hamburger Pattie (a white witch)
Soyburger Patricia (a powerful sorcerer)
Furby
Alt-Furby (both seem to use spellbooks)
The Observer
Butrfli
Donna
Tacoman (why?)
The Great Emancipator (Spoken Harry Potter-type spells)

In addition Fran & Logan probably have magical powers. I'm sure I've missed some others.

Well, Tacoman's father is a powerful wizard, but Tacoman has so far resisted any magic doing...
He's just a regular hero in a fancy suit... without the suit, he's just a relatively ordinary human...

KAM: That is a good question! I never thought about that. Perhaps that for 'death' as it concerns robots should be, the destruction of the body and/or the original programming.

And then of course there is the issue of clones that I did not address. For the prupose of the 3 D n R rule, I think cloning should count as 1 Death and Resurrection.

I remember Tacoman using magic agaist Majin Donna.

I thought the Furbies were machines. How do machines use magic anyways? Scarch that, how do machines without arms use magic?

Now, where was The Observer when President Kennedy was shot? Hmmm...

That question just might be answered, if it's not too tacky to write a story about it.

BTW Obsy, is Observer's former teacher Keeran the same Keeran that is on TKOS?

That's another interesting question, but I'd have to say, no. Keeran the Jedi Master never left the Star Wars dimension. (I sound like Webber.)

Sorry to the person who posted as Frankgroth (Matt Pesti?) for not following your idea.

Padawan: No problem. There is no plan. Only action

Long live YJK! :-)

Sorry about controlling Ansh. I just wanted to get close to ending the fight since it's mostly over anyway.

Mostly over? It was over, until you made that post...

Grrr, why the heck did the fight end before the Furby could do something absolutely disgusting to Praetorius?

:Imagine Praetorius looking down and seeing the Furby standing between his legs with the mouth widely opened and the razor-sharp teeth blinking. Then the Furby jumps up...:

Question: BTW Obsy, is Observer's former teacher Keeran the same Keeran that is on TKOS?

Observer's answer: That's another interesting question, but I'd have to say, no. Keeran the Jedi Master never left the Star Wars dimension. (I sound like Webber.)

The real answer is definitely NO. When we developed TKOS, the one unbreakable rule I imposed is that there could be no crossing over, under any circumstances, with the LICC universe. This also means with any even remotely connected to LICC. Keeran from TKOS could be an alternate universe version of Obsy's teacher, however.

This rule stands.

No, it wasn't over. Kiehart was still fighting that Frankgoth guy.

What, Kiehart could stay down and be missing, but Rikard had to have help killing his enemy? What's with that? Do we not care about Kiehart enough?

Well, since Kiehart is pretty much invulnerable....

(Or would that be unbreakable, Webber? ;) )

I think with Webber it would 'invlunreabel' &/or 'unberakabel'. ;-)

I can understand the occasional typo slipping in, happens to everyjuan, but Webber do you proofread your posts after typing?

I was cracking up at some of those typos. "Kiehart put his WORD down." or something about the other guy putting up 'aifght'.

If I had come on earlier I would have tried to do something with those, probably along the lines of Qunicy Rnager & Sturgling.

I was thinking if the next board has some of the male charcters wearing dresses & a musical concert we could subtitle the board, Six, Drags, & Rock 'n' Roll

I can understand the occasional typo slipping in, happens to everyjuan, but Webber do you proofread your posts after typing? - KAM

I asked him that a long time ago in Pestichat. Apparently, he types fast and doesn't proofread or use the spellchecker.

Okay, just so you all (especially Obsy) know, I'll be away for a day or so....

To get us away from Earth. I'm going to introduce a superplot in March, dealing with our adventures to protect a distant system from invasion. I would like to make this a descriptive planet and descriptive setting, as opposed to the "Soundstages" we normally use as planets. Think of it like the "War Arch" of DS9. It should be big enough to fit all future stories within it. Feed back please. Start thinking up villians, heroes et al.

Start thinking up villians, heroes et al.

Why do we need to start thinking up heroes? Aren't *WE* the heroes? Or, are you admitting that the LICC has become one-dimensional (see the discussion above about Jedi and Wizards)?

On a related note in Reddochat Padawan, Jon & I have decided that the next storyline will involve the Pesti Worldship about to crash into Webber V. Will LICC save the day? Will all the people be evacuated? Will both worlds be destroyed???

This one has come up before. Why do we need to "decide" storylines? Just throw it up, and see it sticks to the wall.

Yes, that is how LICC should work. You'll notice I've never announced any of my storylines before. But I like Pesti's idea. We won't discuss it beforehand over here, we'll just let Pesti think of it in his own head until the time has come for the storyline to begin, and then he can just start it off on the LICC board. We'll all see what comes to us at the time when our own parts are concerned.

Oh, and the Worldship idea was a joke.

My first question (about thinking up heroes) still stands, as does my editorialization about said question.

This is going to be a distant part of the Galxacy. They might have their own heroes, super and otherwise.

The Plot isn't going to be "decided". It's going to be a wide variety of conditions, but the story line is not all consuming. Think of a video game where the main villian could kill you right now, but for some reason does not.

Why do we need to "decide" storylines? - ScottN

To avoid, or improve, those bad plots that I seem to keep thinking up?

OK, if someone can find a way to post something called Draq (or similar pronunciation) & something that sounds like Roll (vrol, droll, kroll?) then we can have the title of this board be Six, Draqs, Ak'kroch & Vrol.

I'd post something myself, but all I can think of seems to be plot-related & I want to stay away from posting plots for a while.

So how is turning LICC into children a Ratliff plot?

DC Comics did it with the Legion of Super-Heroes TWICE in the 1960s before Ratliff was even born.

I could use some Generic Evil Henchmen, please.

I love the Plot Contrivation where Dinsey buys K-NIT!

For some reason, most of the current characters are "unranked", including several active crewmembers. Why has it somehow become the case that everyone needs to have gone to a Starfleet Training Course to be given a rank? Is this a conscious change, in order to get back to the *very* early days, or what?

Cid's rank is Captian, Terran Starfleet. His position is Chief of Ship Operations, a role that requires running the ship while the superheros play around. He can seize control of the ship, IF Tacoman screws up royally (The Starfleet built this one). He is also in charge of the support crew. He's sort of like the more begign version of a Imperial Intellegence officer.

LICC ranks are not valid to the rest of Starfleet, only the LICC. Therefore, no Starfleet training is needed.

Cid's rank is Captian, Terran Starfleet. His position is Chief of Ship Operations, a role that requires running the ship while the superheros play around. He can seize control of the ship, IF Tacoman screws up royally (The Starfleet built this one). He is also in charge of the support crew. He's sort of like the more begign version of a Imperial Intellegence officer.

Does this sound patently ridiculous to anyone else?

And if I recall correctly, and I think I do, Starfleet (which I didn't know existed in LICC) didn't have a thing to do with this Spider. Bob the Q created it! "Starfleet" should have no influence on LICC or their ship, since they are under the direct oversight of the Department of Superheroics, Division 6.

Starfleet is a genral term for the Space Navy of Earth. They supply the Redshirts et alt.

DUH!, of course it's ridicolus. When has that ever stopped anything on this board? This is the Government. Just wait until I do, "The LICC forgets to pay their taxes."

Isn't running the ship while the superheroes play around Colanator's job? He is, after all, the Chief Engineer. Plus he can connect himself to the ship and its computer.

Starfleet is a genral term for the Space Navy of Earth. They supply the Redshirts et alt.

Uhh, I wonder what the ACME Redshirts Company thinks about this.

There seem to be three types of redshirts. Those that are clones of Admiral Leslie (i.e. The Redshirt Suicide Squad). Those that are supplied by Acme (i.e. those that basically appear & die). And those that come up through the ranks and are assigned to the ship (i.e. Qunicy Rnager).

Didn't Tacoman build the first Spider? (Based on plans left by his ancestor Artemus Gordon).

My feeling is that while LICC is under authority of the Division of Superheroics the support staff is assigned the duty from the various branches of Earth Military. While assigned to LICC they follow the orders of whatever Chain of Command exists.

Matt, Cid's rank is not Captain. The chain of command for the Spider has already been worked out, and Cid is not at the top.

DUH!, of course it's ridicolus. When has that ever stopped anything on this board? - Matt Pesti

It stopped us from using the John Byrne device.

As for Starfleet, there have been mentions of a Starfleet in LICC. I'm assuming it's equivalent to 'Space Service' or 'Space Corps' or whatever, and doesn't necessarily mean that of the UFP.