I figured it was time. 7 was taking quite a while to load on my computer.

Any-hoo, BF, are we gonna get to this Space Marshall thing soon, preferably after this virus thing? I'm hoping to have Kiehart's exit take place around chapter 25 or 26.

BTW, I forgot to say when I first mentioned the departure that I might have Kiehart show up for the LICC 3 finale. Actually I think it would be a good idea to get as many of the former characters as possible to show up.


Side Note: The title is a reference to the Star Wars fan film Trooper Clerks.

To the author of the current storyline. Forget it! I am not bringing Jadlad and his family back to the Spidership for this!

I'm only going to bring them back when I'm ready and not before! I wanted to take a very long break from posting in LICC and you're not going to force me to come back early.

Storyline? What storyline? It's madness, madness I say! Bwahahahahahaha!!!

If you're refering to the cold, it's just a continuation of something I mentioned in the author storyline & will probably run it's course in no time. There didn't seem to be anything else going on, the Spidermobile was going to... somewhere, and it just seemed like a good time to wrap it up. Holodoc'll probably have the whole ship decontaminated by the time the next storyline pops up, or gets run over.

It's madness, madness I say! Bwahahahahahaha!!!

I detect a level 47 megalomania. Would somebody please stun him?

Hey, I just found a 47!

Oh, I understand now. Sorry. I was in a cranky mood when I posted that and overreacted a bit.

My break will probably last until August or September everyone.


P.S. - I may not be posting, but I'm still reading!

Maybe I'm over-reacting but seeing as this is meant to be a non-swearing site, should topic headings be allowed to include swear words, whether or not some letters are replaced with asterisks? The word is still implied - if anyone used the word in the text of their posting, they ought to have it deleted, so why is a title allowed to remain?

I think you're right, Callie. I usually replace things like that, even if asterisked.

Bad boy, Webber. Dumped.

Dumped again, Brian. Personal insults on Callie and Jake? *So* not allowed.

Oh I'm sorry I didn't that 'tool' and 'prude' were on the lsit of words banned from NitCnetral.

BTW that was sarcastic! You Roving Mods worry me. You delete more than 80% of any post I make that doesn't have a smiley face in it, and even then some of those get cut too.

Dumped again, Brian.

You can stop with your personal attacks against Callie any day now.

I just checked what he said about me. I think it wasn't a genuine tirade - at least, I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt this time. 'Course, if he meant it, then he'll find out how prudish I can really be! ;-)

(and thanks to Matthew and MJ anyway for erring on the side of caution)

Brian, for the time being we're erring on the side of caution because the role of the Roving Moderator is brand new and causing enough controversy as it is.

I feel that if we leave some ad hominem up and only Dump others we will make people very confused as to what is okay and what isn't. I'd rather Dump it all and let the topic moderator put it back than try to sort out what's meant to be funny and what's not.

Foul!

Somebody is not playing fair. The Disinfectors' author also has the arrogant gall to put no deus ex machinas please in their email address and yet they post this:
In a single burst of power, the entire GMA squadron is caught together in a complex energy web and hurled out into the depths of space....

Milliseconds later the misty net around the Spider resumes its former tension and strength

How is that NOT a deus ex machina? You didn't like the Interceptors so you magically cast them away with no stress or strain on the Disinfectors themselves. Real fair.

I guess the new rule for LICC is "When bad guys attack, the heroes' authors must wait to fight back until the bad guys' author says it's okay."

The Interceptors were introduced out of nowhere in order to end the disinfectors storyline. Using already-existing elements of the story (the Disinfectors themselves) to dispose of the Interceptors is hardly a deus ex machina.

Now, if the heroes themselves were fighting the Disinfectors, I'm sure their author wouldn't mind.

Well, I do see your point, KAM. And it WAS kind of superpowered for the Disinfectors to get rid of the GMA ships so fast (were you writing them?). But the Spectre is quite correct....

And the Disinfectors weren't introduced out of nowhere to end the virus storyline?

A storyline that had already ENDED!!! (It's the endless Nanobot War all over again.) Thanks to the disinfectors the virus has spread to a second board.

Also the Interceptors were mentioned before they appeared. Only when the Disinfectors refused to believe the Doctor when he said the virus was under control did they show up. (Why some people can't let a storyline die a natural death...)

Hey, be nice, KAM. Actually, the Disinfectors were just taking advantage of the "virus storyline" and their author was attempting to set something up. It didn't work out quite as anticipated (as always on lovely LICC), but come on. At least there's been some excitment around the board the last couple of days.

Yes, hey, at least the Disinfectors got our ratings up the last few days!

JB? EE here. Yeah. Looks like our ratings were up. The great unwashed liked those Disin.. Dis... Dis-whatever guys. Let's bring 'em back for sweeps week!

On the current board, why not have Rocket as the "Good cop" Furby as the "Bad" cop and Kiehart as the "Worse" cop?

Sounds like it'd be fuuuun.

The word 'good' was just used in connection with Rocket Ranger without it being referred to as a contradiction!

That's a sign of the apocalypse.

I've got a sign for you, Spectre, but since kids probably read this board, I won't mention what's on it.

Caught a bit of the Tony Awards and thought of a great idea. LICC: The Musical Yes, the special effects will be tough to pull off, but who wouldn't want to watch a chorus line of singing, dancing and exploding redshirts? ;-)

Any musicians out there want to start working on songs?

That's brilliant. That would be a great thing to do.

Will the Furby sing "The Phantom of the Space Opera"?

Is there a Phantom of the Space Opera?

Not yet, but perhaps

Would this be a stage or a screen musical? Or will there be two versions of the script?

NEW IDEA

Now that I have your attention...

I've noticed that what LICC could need is a bit more character interaction and development. More conversation, more glimpses into the personalities of the little text puppets we move around...:-D

So what I propose is an alternate story board, set in Zen Forward, removed chronologically from the action going on in the main storyboard. What we can do with it is post as our usual characters, in a setting where we can discuss our (our character's) lives, current events (in-story) and such. The reason it is removed chronologically is so that we can make a post where our character is up on the bridge but we don't have to wait until the action's over to make an in-story discussion post.

Whaddyall think?

Too confusing. I say we integarte it into the main story and action.

Paddy has brought up good arguments about this.

Yes, it will be confusing, being disassociated from the story board like it is. But what I'm saying is that events in the Zen Forward board shouldn't really touch the story board. The story board should go on as it is, but Zen Forward is just a place where our characters can talk.

The thing is, too many things happen in LICC. It's not like a pre-scripted show like Enterprise, where the mess hall conversations can go on and then the action will start. LICC is a free-for-all, and things often happen before we can even start conversations...

But this means the characters can't talk on the story board. And sometimes Zen-Forward conversations CAN be important to the plot.

They can talk on the story board, and I mean for them to discuss the events of the story in Zen Forward, but perhaps conversations important to the plot can happen on the story board.

I think we should try it out. I mean, why not? It's not like this would ruin or hurt LICC in any way.

Well, I was gonna pitch an idea where we would dedicate an entire 'episode' as it were to what the members of the LICC do when they're bored out of their skulls.

You know, whether we do the storyboard or not, I like this idea of Webber's.

Yeah, dead characters (like Artsy) could even be resurrected for this. Maybe.

Another problem is JD said this would promote development of the characters. I don't think it would - characters are supposed to develop through the course of the story. If instead the development is completely removed in time from the main story, it somewhat defeats the purpose.

Since we're going to this Z-Alpha place, why not use it as sort of a shore leave opportunity and have characters talk to each other? Maybe pick a character your character doesn't know much about & start asking questions, or something?

Then everybody will be crowding around Alex Dupree

Well, that's what you get for not being outgoing enough. ;-)

But it does seem that certain characters keep talking with the same characters over & over and it might be interesting to mix people around in different combinations.

Actually, I like Webber's idea too. And now that I'm almost back (week or two more), can I reserve a storyline?

Sure. Since it appears my attempt at starting one was quashed and I'm not in the mood to try again, go right ahead.

I'm becoming bored with LICC. Its starting to not be fun for me anymore. I'm taking a short break from posting because I have a few other things I've been meaning to work on (a new superhero rpg I joined, doing Rps for the wrestling e-fed I'm in, and making some skins for Freedom Force...plus playing Morrowind), but I may extend that break a little longer.

So the Space Marshall thing is off? I did TRY to get with the story but eveytime I thought I was in they YANKED me back out (he says doing the worst Pacino imitation ever).

Not off. Just delayed a little longer.

(-2 points for the Godfather III reference ;) )

So let's see:
The Space Marshall story is delayed.

There's still a sick woman on Earth looking at LICC blood samples.

There's still a ghost from the Underworld on the ship.

Absurd is missing and a group of people are considering getting help from Adon and the Observer.

Yep, plenty of put off storylines. Do any of these have anything to do with Z-Alpha.

BTW Jon, are you still planning for Jackson, Butrfli, and the kids to leave the ship and explore the galaxy by themselves for a while and settle down a little? Just wondering.

Well, now that the ship is at the station, that may be a possibility...

I hope it wasn't something I posted that screwed up your Space Marshall storyline. If so I'm sorry.

I'd like to see Kira's Ghost Girl story get done. (Yeah, yeah, her name's Kilaev, or something like that, I just like calling her Ghost Girl. ;-)

Absurd going away wasn't really meant to be a storyline (although considering he was Vice-President I suppose it was naive of me to assume it wouldn't be treated as one.)

Other dangling plot threads:
The Return of Artsy-Fartsy;
The Celestial Musician (although if BF is taking time off...); &
The Twisted Rikard/Enesku/Insane/Donna Romantic Relationships (R&E 4ever! Wiigii! ;-)

And for those wondering about the musical...

I figure we start with a big fight sequence between Furby & a bunch of heroes, then Frangelica appears and sings some sappy song about working together and soon the various heroes & Furby join in, singing and dancing, and the number ends with a giant, dancing Spidermobile (either some kind of puppet or a projection on the back wall).

I considered trying to use the already existing LICC storylines, but we may just have to come up with an original story to make it work as a standalone production.

I was thinking about the Absurd story, and I have an idea...
Since the building appearently is slicing through various levels of reality and various dimensions, perhaps the building could make brief appearences in our various Cybersoaps...
For example, in the Archangel storyline...
the characters detect a rip in the space-time continium, the building appears, falls through space, and then is swallowed by another space-time rip...
It could be a running gag of a sort...

This just in a strange building fell out nowhere, squished the Red Knight, then disappeared. The Red Knight was shaken, but not stirred, and ended all of sentences by saying "Penguin."

Actually there are two buildings sailing through the dimensions, in opposite directions (if that term can be used in relation to parallel dimensions). The Psuedoscience building is going one way, the KILL secret bunker is going the other.

KAM, it wasn't anything you did that made me decide to take a break. I've been suffering from burn-out for a while now, actually. And like I said, I have a LOT of other things that I need to work on.

The Celestial Musician storyline not concluding is Padawan's fault. Insane was supposed to take the fake musical score to the imposter, but never did that.

Well I'd better step up Kiehart's departure then Jon, cause jackson adn butrfli were going to be very important to that. Them and HoloDoc.

The musical's storyline could be some weird combination of some of LICC's many storylines.

I was also thinking maybe there could be actors in the audience as K-NIT Viewers, maybe they could sing a song?

Boy BF, the more we learn about the Galactic Order the more 'fun' they seem to be.
If one race on a planet is deemed to be EEEEEEEVIL, all lifeforms on the planet can be destroyed.
Prisoners are sedated while being transfered somewhere. There is no possibility of parole.
Do they also believe in Guilty Until Proven Innocent? The Galactic Order, love it, or else!

Does it seem like some Characters are taking West's actions personally? The Characters weren't there, it was the Authors who were attacked. (And they are using their Characters to get revenge.)

No, they don't believe in Guilty Until Proven Innocent.
And only prisoners who have managed to escape custody before, or who have actively tried to escape, are sedated or placed in stasis.

As for characters taking revenge for the authors being attacked.....I'm not playing it like that. Rocket Ranger thinks that heroes who turn bad are the worst kind of scum.

I agree with BF there. When a good guy goes bad it loves a bad taste in my mouth too.

Speaking of the Space Marshalls, when Kiehart gets back from playing with Alexander Tacoman and Grant Lopez (insert gay joke here) can we do this storyline you've been planning? Kiehart's departure is coming up VERY soon. Probably late next chapter or early the one after that.

I guess. Have Kiehart stop by Rocket's lab when you're ready to start it.

In case anyone is wondering why my break didn't last long, there are several reasons:

1. The new superhero rpg I joined is going slowly. No one has even posted in almost a week. Its obviously slowing down because of summer.

2. I'm getting rid of AOL and getting DSL soon (July 2nd is when they're supposed to install it), which will let me surf faster, thereby giving me more time to work on the FF skins.

3. I haven't been in the mood to play Morrowind much lately. And I've been playing it late at night, anyway.

I won't have internet access at all on the 1st of July. So I'll probably either be burning cds, making Freedom Force skins, or both, that day.

Ok, I've started Work on my Tech Manuel. I am working on ship design right now. If anyone has any sections they would like in, justy post here. This has no timetable. I'll try to get specs on the Archive website.

Deck 1: Officers quarters
Deck 2: junior officers quarters
Deck 3: Labs
Deck 4: Holodeck. Sickbay Armory
Deck 5: Security.
Deck 6: Engineering
Deck 7A: Auxiliary Command
Deck 8 Main Engineering

Forward Legs A: Forward Landing Struts
Forward legs B: Weapons (Possibly Shuttlebay)
Aft LegsA: Engine Nacelles
Aft Legs B: Aft Landing Struts.

Where's the Bridge?

Hey Matt, I had already worked up a rough deck plan and map. If you like, I could email it to you and see what you think about it.

Engineering is Deck 6? I don't remember that being mentioned anywhere.

I thought I put RR's lab and Ops on Deck 6 (they're right across from each other).....

Deck 13 is Storage and the Trap level. Nothing there except storage rooms.

Ok, I'll make the modifications. That reminds me, How big is this thing? I mean, it is only Superheros and support staff.

JD: In all likelyhood it will proberly look alike. Please hold on to it for now.

Don't forget Zen Forward.

I think the Author storyline mentioned some deck locations, although there's probably some contradictions with other posts.

Also an Adon post (a long time ago) mentioned a deck (47?) that doesn't exist. ;-) (Only on the Spidermobile would they have a deck that doesn't exist. ;-)
On one of the Discussion boards I (jokingly) mentioned that this is where the Top Secret LICC Espionage Unit meets (so secret even the members don't know they're members), also this is where SuperBob has been hiding since his 'death'.

It could also be the location of the ship's Weirdness Magnet.

The Spider is bigger on the inside than on the outside since all three have used relative dimensions in their contruction. (Well, technically only the first one was constructed. I think the second one was snapped into existence by the Q Continuum, & I think Bob the Q snapped the third one into existence.)

I thought Artsy's author was writing the Red Ship posts, but The Inspector (I assume Mystery) posted that he meant to type one thing in the post. So is Artsy on the Red Ship or did she somehow become an energy being?

JD, when you create the next board you can mention that once again LICC passes Phantom Returns.

I thought Artsy's author was writing the Red Ship posts, but The Inspector (I assume Mystery) posted that he meant to type one thing in the post. So is Artsy on the Red Ship or did she somehow become an energy being? - KAM

Nuh-uh. The Inspector was referring to a post he made right before the Red Ship post, where he said 'the brunt of it'. He was just clarifying that 'it' meant the creature.

I've always thought that the Spidership is a pretty big ship. At least 500 meters long.

Here's mah map, let me know what you think.

http://www.geocities.com/thelicc/roughlabelmap.gif

Sorry, you'll have to cut and paste. Geocities is throwing a tantrum again.

Sorry, you'll have to cut and paste.

No, just click again into the URL field after getting the Geo-error message and hit "Enter" again to load again. At least it works for me.

So does everyone live in the attic or on another deck?

Okay, I'm a little confused. The Spidership is still docked and mostly powered down in the starbase right? Is the battle outside of the starbase or inside? If it's inside, that's a pretty tight fit for all the ships flying around (unless it's a really bid starbase docking area). And where are the creature and the red ship?

BIG!! I meant "big"!!! Not bid!! Aaaah!

(Typos, typos, typos...)

Actually Josh, Bid is correct as the Starbase Docking Area is where Z-Alpha holds auctions. ;-)

I assumed the dimensional 'tear' happened just outside the station and the red ship & creature entered our dimension moving away from the station.

JD, So how are the noncontinuous decks labeled? Would it be something like Deck 2a & Deck 2b.
Also I think the Bridge should always have the designation of Deck 1. Maybe the Attic can be Deck 0? ;-)

Well, I had thought that every deck that resides on both the head and body portions of the ship have designations of Deck 1-Forward, Deck 1-Aft, and so on. But your idea is quicker and neater, so we should use that.

And even though we borrow a lot from Star Trek, the bubble-window-bridge is something we should get away from, I thought. :-) If you like, the bridge on Deck 3 can be assigned a designation of Deck 1, but as in your pictures of the Spidermobile the bridge is not on the very top of the head section, but where the eyes should be on the forward hull of the head.

And I thought the Starbase was just really big inside, like Stardock.

Deck 2b? Or how about not Deck 2b?
Now, whether that's the question or not, I have no idea...

You're assuming my pic is 100% accurate???

Maybe that pretty little picture of the bridge where we can see inside is just a projection to fool attacking ships?
Attacker: Aha! We can see the bridge through that window! Fire all weapons there!
Ensign First: The nincompoops are firing at the decoy image, captain.


Also the space above the bridge might just be taken up with computer, sensor, weapon & defensive equipment so might not be considered a deck at all. Although there might be Jeffries tubes for repairs.

Yep, the bridge should be buried deep inside the ship!

The rationale for naval ships to have the bridge up top is for improved visibility, but since the Spidership uses sensors, it should be as well protected as possible. Similarly, sickbay should also be as close to the center of the ship as possible.

Putting Zen Forward right smack dab on the bottom deck of the `head' of the ship is a bad idea, too. It should be moved up a deck and the bottom deck made into a non-essential gear storage area or something.

I won't be around for the next day or so; I'm changing my internet access.

Who says the Spider is a totally military machine? :-) Besides, what is life without a little risk?

Exactly, the LICC resides in a silly universe. We probably don't expect to be blown to atoms every day. Let Zen Forward have a nice view of space. Let the bridge be at the front. Just reinforce it with armored transparent material or something.

We probably don't expect to be blown to atoms every day.
Yeah. Once would be more than enough.

Speaking of bridge position, I once read a science fiction spacship parody... Now, the interesting thing about it was that in the spaceship in question, their bridge was in the center of the ship... and that was the old model...

I got the new internet hook-up. Went from crappy old 56k (AOL) to lightning-fast cable! Woo Hoo!

(Now, where are the brakes on this thing?!)

(Now, where are the brakes on this thing?!)

Right here.

A cable connection would be nice...

Well, folks, an entire HeroMachine LICC gallery is up on the Archive Site! Sorry if the pics don't look exactly like you pictured them, but they just don't have options for everything on the Machine. :-)

http://www.geocities.com/thelicc/heromachine.htm

Cool! I oughta use that to make pictures for some of the crew of the Revanche to put up on the Arhcangel site (the others I can FIND pics of them on-line somewhere).

Sweet! I love the pics....wow, wish I had time to mess around with fun stuff like that. Even I could make something with the Hero Machine, artistically challenged that I am...

That's the good thing about HM. :-) I couldn't draw, computer or otherwise, if my life depended on it.

QM looks a little too buff, but I assume that's just HM. Why does La Femme Superbe have a radiation symbol on her chest?

I...have no idea. :-) I put that there for some reason but it really means nothing. Or, perhaps in the future the radiation symbol has changed to mean "Danger: Super-powered human."

Or "Radioactively Altered Human"? (Although then it should have a DNA spiral over it.)

ATTENTION! ATTENTION!

Paddy has written a new piece of fiction, and after one read-through, I think EVERYONE should take a look. I can't praise it enough, but make your own opinions. :-D

http://www.geocities.com/thelicc/LICCMovie.htm

I have one thing to say... wow!
I think we have ourselves a future filmmaker here.
Now all we have to do is develop a movie series

I give it two thumbs up.

Wow. Just, wow. Although the close-ups on Kiehart were unneccesary, plus he didn't get enough quick quips. No smart-alecky references? C'mon Paddy I thought you knew him better than that! ;-)

But for a real challange, why not take on Archangel? I actually had a dream that that was made into a movie, but I didn';t know how it was doen and couldn't gewt into the theratre showing it to find out exactly who made it beucase people kept hording me telling me it was a thousand times better than Episode II, and yet not only did I not know that the movie even existed, I had no idea how it could've been pulled off without serious litigation. In the dream I tried to get a look at the poster to get some clue but all I could see was the title, and some space-like background coloring. And for some reason I ran into Guy Pearce's character from Memento. It was a VERY weird dream. *snicker*

Wow. Just, wow. Although the close-ups on Kiehart were unneccesary, plus he didn't get enough quick quips. No smart-alecky references? C'mon Paddy I thought you knew him better than that! ;-) - Brian Webber

Thanks, Brian. The Kiehart changes were a homage to the Fellowship of the Ring movie, where Legolas was reduced to long close-ups and short, very few lines of dialogue.

I'm not going to even try doing Archangel, since I've already got lots of other things I'm writing or meaning to write. Someone else can write a script for that!

http://www.geocities.com/thelicc/memento.txt

It just looked like random text to me JD.

BTW guys & gals, on the NEW Archive Discussion board there is a list of characters who are LICC members and it seems to be incomplete. You might want to see if any of your characters are missing.

It's a .jpg, not a .txt.

LOL, JD, that is funny!

Also, sorry I was gone...I'm going to post now....

*LOL* Good one JD. May I ask why though? Is it my numerous references to what was easily the best film of 2001 that made you do that?

I still see garbage. I even replaced the txt with jpg & it told it couldn't be found.

On a side note, some people I know who use a phpbb board do use the txt dodge to get around Geocities habit of blocking picture links.

I think that this is why Webber:

And for some reason I ran into Guy Pearce's character from Memento. It was a VERY weird dream.

What do you get when you cross Archangel and Guy Pearce?

A VERY weird dream (and a very funny pic)

I thought that the story was very, very good. Great job Paddy!

However, I do have some nits. First you said that it was Rikard who was buried in some ceiling panels with Praetorius, but Observer and Rikard later discover Artsy under them. Did they both get hit with ceiling pieces?

And Rikard is a brunette, unless he colored his hair without my knowledge. I guess that's possible. He's past that phase now.

Josh: Oh of course, why didn't I think of that?!? I should've realized that's where JD got the idea. Now I feel REALLY ••••••.

If you still have trouble with the image, save it on your computer, and then save the file as a .jpg instead of a .txt file. That should do the trick.

After all that trouble when I finally saw the pic I thought, "Oh. That's it?"

However if I had seen it like everyone else I would have thought it was cute.

Could make for an interesting Archangel storyline. Yeager gets zapped by somekinda alien machine, most of his memories are erased & he has to figure out who's who & what's what. Throw in some shapeshifting villains who take on the appearence of his friends to further add to the confusion.

Would we have to do the entire story backward?

This one's for you, KAM. :-D

http://www.geocities.com/thelicc/thats.txt

Now all we have to do is get an infinite loop going

Cute.