Forever

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Smallville: Season Four: Forever
By Biggy on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 7:20 pm:

Once again, I found the Lex/Lionel/Jason/Genevieve story points far more entertaining than the main story of Brandon and his house of wax. (Interesting coincidence that they ran a trailer for that movie after the teaser.)

I have to laugh every time someone says that if Clark goes away to college he won't be able to help on the farm. We're talking about Clark Kent after all. The dude could go to classes in Metropolis, Miami, even Outer Mongolia if he wanted to, and still be home in time for chores. Granted, he'd have to keep it on the downlow, but Clark is pretty good at keeping secrets here.


By Duke of Earl Grey on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 8:28 pm:

As for everything other than the Luthers' plotline, lame, lame, lame, lame, LAME! Though I suppose if the psycho (presumably) kryptonite freak plotline served any purpose at all, maybe it kept Lana safely out of harm's way in the clutches of an inept villain while Jane Seymour may have already been on the lookout to kill her.

I could use some help here. I missed the first moments of the show. Can someone tell me how Mrs. Teague got topsides on Lionel after the events of last episode, assuming that the matter was touched upon at the top of the show?

Now, as for where I came in, at the beginning of the episode, when Chloe goes into the locker room, was it just my imagination, or did she get there directly from the room where she works on The Torch? So the Torch room is directly adjacent to the girls' locker room? I mean, I know this replica of the school might not be perfect, but Chloe still didn't know she wasn't in the real school at this point, and she didn't seem the least bit surprised to find herself in the locker room, so I'll assume the layout of the real school is identical in this regard. Even if my imagination played a trick on me, there's still some room in the school with a direct view into the girls' locker room through a window in the door with just some blinds in the way. Not normal. Maybe not a bad idea, but certainly not normal. :)


By anon on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 12:23 am:

Brandon and his house of wax. (Interesting coincidence that they ran a trailer for that movie after the teaser.)

Wax? I thought he was freezing them with ice.

I have to laugh every time someone says that if Clark goes away to college he won't be able to help on the farm. We're talking about Clark Kent after all. The dude could go to classes in Metropolis, Miami, even Outer Mongolia if he wanted to, and still be home in time for chores. Granted, he'd have to keep it on the downlow, but Clark is pretty good at keeping secrets here.

Not to mention Metropolis is less than an hour away by car and can even be seen if you stand on a windmill at the outskirts of town. Clark could easily commute to Met U and live on the farm, even if he had to drive. Hell, he'd probably have a shorter drive to school than I did.

I could use some help here. I missed the first moments of the show. Can someone tell me how Mrs. Teague got topsides on Lionel after the events of last episode, assuming that the matter was touched upon at the top of the show?

It wasn't. The show started with Chloe signing ice/wax boy's yearbook, then realizing something was wrong with the school and discovering it wasn't really school at all.

Personally, I hate all the stuff with the Luthers and Teagues and artifacts and ancient french witches and caves and Lana's the chosen one and blah blabbity blah. Although I am glad Jason is dead. I just hope he stays that way.


By Biggy on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 5:30 am:

It wasn't wax, I was just noting the similarity between this guy's "collection" and the one in the just-released remake of the film "House of Wax."


By Biggy on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 5:36 am:

Doesn't sound like Jason is dead. Here's a direct quote from the WB's official release for the season finale:

.....Jason (Jensen Ackles) takes Jonathan (John Schneider) and Martha (Annette O'Toole) hostage and threatens to kill Martha unless Jonathan tells him where Clark hid the crystals. Greg Beeman directed the episode written by Todd Slavkin & Darren Swimmer

I'm not surprised. One thing I've learned is that no one named Jason ever really stays dead.


By LUIGI NOVI on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 11:06 am:

Ugh.

Typical cardboard villain, with a lame “you must move on” ABC Afterschool Special-esque theme. The Brendan portion of that theme was really cartoonishly bad, and while it was better with the Clark/Jonathan conflict, even that didn’t make sense. Jonathan questions Clark’s decision to go to Central Kansas, in lieu of Metropolis University, Ohio, or Miami, because, as Martha points out he’d only be able to be back home a few times a year. Ohio or Miami, I could understand, but why is this the case with Met U? Clark has demonstrated that he can RUN to and from Metropolis in no time flat, hasn’t he? And why would he only be able to be back a few times a year? Wouldn’t he be there for the summers, at least? At least Jason’s finally dead, so let’s hope this silly nonsense with the stones, the map, and the ancient French witch stuff is coming to an end. (Just read Biggy’s post). Aw hell.

When we first see the frozen Haley, we see that her right eye is moving back and forth, indicating that Brendan’s victims are conscious when frozen. So how did he transport Chloe to that replica of the school without her knowing? And why did the process seem seamless for Lana, who doesn’t seem to realize what’s happened when Brendan unfreezes her at the fake school? And wouldn’t Lois and Lana have seen Clark’s superhuman feats when he confronted Brendan right in front of them, including Brendan destroying a two by four over Clark’s back in front of Lois, and his speed and immunity to Brendan’s freezing power in front of Lana?

When Chloe realizes something’s wrong in the teaser, she tries to get on the Net, and a window flashes on the screen, “No Internet Access.” Usually, such a window or graphic on a screen will state something a bit more technical, like “Access Denied,” or “Connection Failure”, or something.

Is it normal for doors to locker rooms to be in the classroom hallways of a school? Aren’t they usually adjacent to the gym, which is on its own floor separate from the classrooms? We know this isn’t because it’s a fake school, because Chloe doesn’t react to the locker rooms being there.

Why do none of Brendan’s prisoners think to knock out the guy until Lana finally does? With all the props and other stuff in the school, access to electricity, big metal lockers and stuff, none of them could’ve done this until she got there?

Lionel tells Genevieve that Lana has the stone, so Genevieve leaves the cabin, presumably to track down Lana. My mom wanted to know why we didn’t hear anything else of this in the rest of the episode. Sure, we can presume it’ll be in the next one, but I thought that it would at least be resolved or have some foreshadowing of it in this one, at least at the very end of it.

The preview for the next ep looks cool. Since we see Clark in a frozen landscape, can that mean, perhaps that we’re going to see the Fortress of Solitude, or perhaps a foreshadowing of it? Can’t wait to see those 10 minutes of Batman Begins either.


By elwood on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 1:25 pm:

This one started more scarry than it actually was...
and whats going on in that fake school was explained far to early.

Also it was far to easy to find out that the guy build a replica and where. Not to smart to leave the blueprints in the room.

Also no explanation where his powers came from
and what it actually is and why his victims would unfroze if he froze (or died) and why Clark was immune.
(Sometimes the effect looked like something else I won't mention by word here.)

When Lionel and Lex are captured, Jason leaves the cabinet to, what we later see, get some wood.
Pretty dumb in the first place.

Those chairs they're bound to looked so weak what it would have been possible to crash them while still sitting on them.

Its obvious that Jason is not dead, the bullet hits right in his shoulder.

(Again) some obvious mistakes handling a semi-automatic pistol. (I don't get why there is no one on a set who knows how they work and tell the actor in 5 sentences.

Pulling back the slide will chamber a round when the gun is loaded for the first time. Doing so again would flick out a live round each time and load a new one from the magazine. Thats the same thing happening when a round is fired, the slide is pushed back and an new round gets loaded when it jumps back. (I don't need to explain this to the amarican audience of cource ;)

Jason pulls the slide 2 or 3 times, maybe more.

When Lex and Lionel escape,
why not use the advantage of beeing unbound
and stay in the chairs pretending to be.
Wait till Jason gets back and turn the back to one one them (they sat face to face) then knock him down from the behind, get the gun, bond him and just walk out free.


By anon on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 12:33 am:

Typical cardboard villain,

First wax, then ice, now cardboard! ARGH!!! lol

(Sometimes the effect looked like something else I won't mention by word here.)

Okay, I guess this is like a superpower inkblot test...

(Just read Biggy’s post). Aw hell.

I'll second that aw hell and raise you a •••• no.

Its obvious that Jason is not dead, the bullet hits right in his shoulder.

But he fell off the freakin cliff too!


By John-Boy on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 11:06 am:

Because of a storm in my area on Wednesday, my channel of out Kansas City Missouri that carries The WB was knocked out all night Wednesday night, but it doesn't sound like I missed much. Better not happen next week!

The way The WB reruns this show, it'll probably be on by the end of June anyways! :)


By Blitz - Digimon Moderator (Sladd) on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 2:01 pm:

How does Brendan's eye slowly close at the end? Aside from the fact that he's frozen/waxed over, his head has ben shattered into many little pieces!

Also, why do the pieces of him stay frozen after everyone else thaws out? If this powers quit working at death, shouldn't they quit working on him too? I know, the results would be a little too gross to show, but still... (while the episode in general was kind of lame, I have to say that I found the "shattering body" effect to be very well done)


By Josh M on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 1:10 am:

I haven't seen the episode but I agree with everyone's observations that Clark shouldn't have any issues with going to a college other than Central Kansas. He did go to Florida with Bart for the day in Run. It wouldn't be that hard for him to commute, especially to Met U.


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