Jefferson Lives

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: The West Wing: Season 5: Jefferson Lives
By Ed Watson on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 7:12 am:

Go CJ go! I haven't seen it mentioned in the spoilers, but did anyone else get the impression that she is considering resigning?

Toby: "Why didn't Sharif get a trial or a tribunal? Who's asking those questions?"

CJ: "I am. Those are my questions."

Mine too.

Still no scene with just Charlie and Zoey....


By Ed Watson on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 7:18 am:

This is not my nit. I found it on the "Unofficial West Wing Guide" site.

http://westwing.bewarne.com/questions/continuity2.html

What happened to the rest of May and all of June?

Zoey's graduation was in early May. Her abduction covered two days (starting that night). How can one week later be The Fourth of July?

The show has never done time well. At the end of the first season there was an assassination right after the Georgetown Law School Graduation in May. Next we knew it was August and one week after the assassination attempt! At that time we lost two months. This time we only lost a month and a half. Maybe they are getting better.


By Hannah F., West Wing Moderator (Cynicalchick) on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 10:04 am:

I love those people; I don't even remember how I found that site.


By Harvey Kitzman on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 3:51 pm:

In an itonic casting twist, the guy who was the new House Speaker who had the VP list was the actor who played Bobby Kennedy in the movie Thirteen Days. That is a great movie that anyone who is a fan of this show should see. The movie shows what a great President would do in a crisis, unlike what would happen if the current Idiot-in-Chief was faced with a crisis.

One question - who was the guy who resigned that they kept talking about? I missed that part.


By ScottN on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 3:56 pm:

VP John Hoynes (played by Tim Matheson). He resigned in S4's "Life On Mars", due to a sex scandal, setting former Speaker Walken (John Goodman) to be the Acting President after the events of "25" through "The Dogs of War".


By Harvey Kitzman on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 5:02 pm:

ScottN

No, I knew that part. I'm talking about the guy who wrote a letter complaining about the assassination of Sharif. Sorry for the confusion.

BTW: I meant to say ironic - lousy typing on my part.

Another interesting casting choice - Bill Lumburgh as VP - see the movie Office Space for reference. "Um yeah, we need that bill passed by tonight. That'd be great, Um Kay? Thanks."


By Ed Watson on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 9:20 am:

Harvey,

I tried to follow the bit about the resignation letter. While I didn't get all the details, I definitely got the idea that it was a member of the cabinet who resigned in protest of the Sharif assasination.

I taped it and will have to go back and watch it again. I'm sure it's a name they mentioned before so once I have the name, I should be able to find out which secretary it was.


By Hannah F., West Wing Moderator (Cynicalchick) on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 12:49 pm:

Harvey, I was thinking the same thing: Lumburgh!


By ScottN on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 12:58 pm:

Too bad about Berryhill. I loved the line he gave to Bartlett. "... I'm spoiling for a fight", or words to that effect.


By Harvey Kitzman on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 4:40 pm:

Hannah,

I was actually an extra in Office Space, so I am partial to the movie.


By Hannah F., West Wing Moderator (Cynicalchick) on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 12:32 am:

Where can I see you?:O


By Harvey Kitzman on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 11:57 am:

In the scene where Lumburgh is talking about the banner "Is This Good for the Company?" I am the tall blonde guy right behind the principle actors.


By TPooh on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 4:58 pm:

Mybe they should get the post-traumatic stress syndrome shrink back to work with Zoe.


By ScottN on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 7:23 pm:

I agree. I mean, Abby's an MD, fer goodness sakes! She knows about PTSS! Why doesn't she have that kid in counseling?


By Hannah F., West Wing Moderator (Cynicalchick) on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 2:16 am:

Posttraumatic Stress Disorder


~CC, daughter of a clinical social worker


By ScottN on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 9:29 am:

PTSS -- Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome.

~ ScottN, husband of an RN (two can play at that game! :))


By ScottN on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 9:30 am:

Oh, and for more info, look here. Neener neener neener :).


By Hannah F., West Wing Moderator (Cynicalchick) on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 5:29 pm:

Looks like the 'S' is SCALE, not syndrome. In fact...


Quote:

PTSS - Why it is set to become a popular PTSD assessment




[emphasis mine]


By Jesse on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 10:55 am:

Ed: The show has never done time well.

Right on, Ed. I can't count the times that Christmas or another major holiday or a season change has just come up and smacked me in the face. It usually happens when my wife turns to me and says, "Wait, it's Christmas on the show? Weren't the leaves just turning colors last week?"


By ScottN on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 1:47 pm:

Missing line:

Berryhill: It's OK that I won't be VP. I'm going to change my name to Hayes and become president anyways!

ref: Stargate SG-1. President Hayes is played by William DeVane


By Hannah F., West Wing Moderator (Cynicalchick) on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 8:56 pm:

LOL.


When Bartlet was talking to Mr. Dull, and escapes to Debbie, he has to go back in.

I would have jammed the ceremonial pen on the desk through my eyesocket.


By Hannah F., West Wing Moderator (Cynicalchick) on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 8:57 pm:

Oh, and I'm watching the Chimp-in-Chief's GOP Convention speech now. My doctor would faint if he knew what my blood pressure is right now.


By Rodney Hrvatin (Rhrvatin) on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 4:35 pm:

Synopsis for this episode: With Bartlett re-instated it is imperative to find a new VP but things become unstuck with the Republicans throw in a list of potential VP's. Meanwhile the Bartlett household is still very much divided over Zoe and a long term friend appears to be the pawn in the middle.


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