"OUROBOROS"

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Andromeda: Season Two: "OUROBOROS"

By Lee Jamilkowski (Ljamilkowski) on Tuesday, December 18, 2001 - 12:25 am:

This is the last Robert Hewitt Wolfe penned episode. He would have his influence felt in episodes to the end of the season, but this is the last pure Wolfe episode.

It also happens to be Brent Stait's last episode, too.


By Lee Jamilkowski (Ljamilkowski) on Tuesday, December 18, 2001 - 12:28 am:

From the official website:

Then everything changes in "Ourobourous". This is the episode that you have all been waiting for. The past and the future converge on the Andromeda Ascendant and all we can say is that what was meant to be - happens, and nothing will ever be the same. The series has hinted about this moment from the beginning, and we dare anyone to guess what it will be. The future of Dylan's mission will depend on it.


By Red Dwarf fan on Tuesday, December 18, 2001 - 1:41 am:

The series has hinted about this moment from the beginning, and we dare anyone to guess what it will be.

Dylan is his own father?!?!


By Dexter and his lab on Tuesday, December 18, 2001 - 9:02 am:

Dylan... I am your father!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


By Anonymous 3313 on Tuesday, December 18, 2001 - 11:56 pm:

Dylan You are your father!


By He, the Mortal on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 8:05 pm:

My manditory nit: if the space/time clusterfuck let the Magog attack the Andromeda...again...how come this time the internal defenses did not waste them? There was no indication that this was the Hal Andromeda or that they had shifted to her. One would think even if she ship's intelligence was spighettied and shambled, the internal defense system would fulfill their functions, after all in the middle of combat it is highly likely the main system would be shot to POOH, and if such crucial parts of the ship are completely dependant on the ship's computers, then the Commonwealth was leaving themselves to be sodomized by their enemies.

Since the original co-creator is leaving, will the Andromeda we know and love now be dumbed down to Hercules the Legendary Captain's one-dimential view of a plot?


By Joel Croteau (Jcroteau) on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 8:12 pm:

15 minutes into the show, my mind has already gone numb. Where's a nice new episode of The Simpsons when you need it?


By Joel Croteau (Jcroteau) on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 8:20 pm:

Tyr risks his life to save one of the perseids from being blown into space. That's in character.


By Joel Croteau (Jcroteau) on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 8:47 pm:

Apparently at some point in the future, Trance decided to fix her hair and dye her skin. Now this wierd future Trance has switched places with our beloved trance and I suppose that we'll never find out what happened to her. Temporal mechanics give me a headache too. At least these do. I don't remember the perseids being this cowardly the last time I saw them.


By Joel Croteau (Jcroteau) on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 9:02 pm:

Trance kills one of the most eminent scientists in the known worlds in order to save this piddling little engineer that noone's ever heard of. Why? Because one's her "friend" (Read that regular.), and one's a stranger. (Read that guest) And musclehead Hunt lets her off because she was "honest" about her motivations. Am I the only one who thinks that he let her off a bit light?


By Jessica on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 9:18 pm:

We had temporal disturbances all over the ship. People were panicking. There was trouble. Then

They were gone.

Everything is fine.

No explanation.

All it would have taken was one line. ONE line--either explaining that things were only in flux until they made a decision or explaining that FutureTrance had taken a course in Teseracts.

One line. Is that too much to ask?


By The Undesirable Element on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 10:16 am:

I missed the beginning of this episode (and the last 2 episodes completely). What happened to Rev Bem? He was my favorite character.

And why isn't future Trance purple???

This show is getting weird.

TUE


By Jessica on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 10:57 am:

Rev Bem sent a message at the beginning of the show telling them that he was & had been troubled after the Worldship, & though he did "not have the answers, it was time to start asking questions" and that he would remember them always.


By Scott McClenny on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 8:59 pm:

I suppose one explanation for Trance's change of
color is that her species is purple in their
juvenile stage and white in adult stage.
Or it could be that Ms.Bertram was just sick of
getting dyed purple all the time!:)

Not only is Future-Trance white,but she's done
her hair entirely different.

Ouroboros refers to the myth of the dragon that
eats his own tail,meaning that the time is somehow
circular,past and future meeting in the present.
It also means that time some how collapses back on
itself so wouldn't that mean that at the end everything would have RESET to the beginning?

I guess the one person who was REALLY happy at
the end would have been Harper,at least he got
rid of those pesky Magog eggs!!!!!:)

Sooooo is Romy shopping at Ye Olde U.F.O.Showe Shoppe?
Didja notice her wig in this eppie looked like
the wigs on U.F.O.?

Great Tyr Line:"Did I come at a bad time?"


By palandine on Monday, February 04, 2002 - 2:07 pm:

Ugh. That was a big ol' reset button they used on Seamus.

I'm disappointed by the loss of Rev Bem, who was an interesting character, and depressed by the loss of Robert Hewitt Wolfe. Seems like this show, that started so promisingly, is gonna turn into an action hour. I miss DS9.

Ya know, I suppose I'm cool with aiming some aspects of sci-fi series to 14-year-old boys. That's part of the demographic. But another part of that demographic is *gasp* well-adjusted adult men and women. That's why it grates to lose a character like Rev Bem and get in return a Rommie with kewl new blue hair and a Trance done up in bondage gear.


By ScottN on Monday, February 04, 2002 - 2:25 pm:

I haven't seen this one yet, but...

They did Rommie up in blue hair???? Why? She was hot before!


By LUIGI NOVI on Wednesday, February 06, 2002 - 4:16 am:

I can understand if Brent Stait couldn't remain because of his allergies, but c'mon, his character was, along with Tyr, the best one on the show! Sure, we hate change, but if it's a choice between a replacement actor for the part, and scrapping the character altogether, I vote for the FORMER!!


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Sunday, February 10, 2002 - 4:12 am:

I haven't seen the last couple of eps, so when I see this unfamiliar gal with an Egyptian style hairdo my first thought was a new character had been added to the show. Nope, just Rommie.

Okay where did all the air that was blowing out of the science lab come from? Shouldn't there be some sort of pressure activated door seals? (Or did the designers figure that if something managed to puncture the ship that far in what's the point of letting the rest of the crew live?)

I'm watching this show & thinking, 'When did Brannon Braga start writing for Andromeda?' Did Wolfe also write the DS9 ep where O'Brien went back & forth and had a future version replace the present version?
(When DC Comics did a similar thing, the future version of Valor replaced the dead present version, at least it led into the Zero Hour reboot where they tried to correct all the messed up continuity. No such luck here I assume.)

Anyone else think the future version of Becka was 7 of 9?


By Stone Cold Steven Of None on Sunday, February 10, 2002 - 12:55 pm:

After watching this ep, the only thing I can say is: DAY-amn!


By Len on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 - 7:15 am:

Trance kills one of the most eminent scientists in the known worlds in order to save this piddling little engineer that noone's ever heard of. Why? Because one's her "friend" (Read that regular.), and one's a stranger. (Read that guest) And musclehead Hunt lets her off because she was "honest" about her motivations. Am I the only one who thinks that he let her off a bit light? ::Joel

Trance didn't "kill" anyone. Anytime ANY time tinkering is done people "live" or "die." In fact, a common SF explanation for this type of thing is that there are infinite timelines and no one is dting- you are just changing the timeline in which you reside.

However, even if you accept that Trance chose to save Harper's life over the Perseid's, there is really NO justification for criticizing her. That would mean that one person's life is inherently more valuable than anothers. And no one has a real basis to make that evaluation.


By ScottN on Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 1:58 am:

Someone touched on it, but my favorite line from Trek showed up here...

Temporal Mechanics Gives Me A Headache.


By Merat on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 11:16 pm:

Rommie's new hair is... horrible. However, I do like that the avatar and the ship/hologram's hair is different.


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