Hero

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Angel: Season One: Hero
Here it is, the web's worst kept secret, episode nine. A group of fanatical demons (NAZIS) bent on keeping the lines pure (NAZIS) are hounding a group of poor, downtrodden half-demons (NAZIS). Only Angel can save them. Maybe.

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Brace yourself for all the semi-on-topic posts from over on the Buffy board. I blame the nanobots for this.

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By Keith Alan Morgan on Monday, December 27, 1999 - 03:52 pm:

This episode was titled Hero.

As long as Doyle took to jump onto the 'bomb', why couldn't Angel have gotten back up?

Is Doyle gone for good? Who knows? Angel was killed by Buffy at the end of one season
& he came back...

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By Mark Morgan on Tuesday, December 28, 1999 - 10:47 am:

Back in The Real World, the actor who played Doyle is shopping around for a movie.

Man, the cops in this universe are asleep. Large groups of strangely-dressed demons
march really noisly around, and no one notices. Big city life suddenly loses its allure.

In the season finale for "Buffy," Anya tells the Scooby Gang that full demons are
uniformly large, and immensely powerful. It was a nice touch, that there are truly powerful
forces that are beyond the ken of the little battles Our Heroes fight. But this episode
establishes that there are full demons who are complete wimps.

I kept waiting for Cordelia to say "Ow! Your face hurts!"

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By A. Sinclaire on Tuesday, December 28, 1999 - 10:53 am:

Thanks, Keith, for episode title. Where do yuo get all these? I've never seen them in the
ep.

Mark: I would think at least Kate would notice this stuff. Maybe they're still recovering
from sensitivity stuff. Why did none of the national patrol react to that? I would think that
during that situation there would be some replacements sent in til they got shaped up...

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By Mark Morgan on Tuesday, December 28, 1999 - 11:04 am:

Mandy, I don't know about Keith, but upcoming episdoe titles to a lot of different SF/F
television are available at The SFTV Page. That was in one of those messages that
vanished...

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By John on Tuesday, December 28, 1999 - 06:53 pm:

The Demons in their uniforms reminded me of the Hirogen Nazis from Voyager.
Whenever Doyle does that thing with his face it reminds of the Hellraiser demon.
Great Line:"I guess we'll never know if this was a face You could love".
I hope doyle comes back I was starting to like him

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By A. SInclaire on Tuesday, December 28, 1999 - 08:27 pm:

Mark Morgan:Thanks. The only thing UI've had the poblem with wepisode titles is, if it's
not official site, I ask to use the titles, and I had a permission from AleXander, but as we
all know, jerky people made em take down the transcripts...

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By Mark Morgan on Tuesday, December 28, 1999 - 08:39 pm:

The titles are not the property of SFTV; they belong to Warner, or Whedon. And, while I
am as big a copyright advocate as any, the line has to be drawn. We can easily use
episode titles under "fair use" copyright law, just as comic book web sites and
professional newspaper columns can use comic titles and character names without
permission. Or reviewers can use titles of books and episodes without asking permission.


Transcripts would be another matter entirely. But titles are routinely posted, reposted,
and announced all over the place. Considering the willingness of companies to sue if so
much as looked at funny, I am certain that this doesn't bother them.

So go ahead and use SFTV's titles, in my opinion. Or we might just as well go home,
because the character names and events are all copyrighted, and this whole board, as
well as most of the Internet, is doomed.

Ain't gonna happen.

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By Keith Alan Morgan on Wednesday, December 29, 1999 - 01:47 am:

Titles are not Copyrightable. A title or character name may be Trademarked, but not
Copyrighted.

As I explained in some of my emails to you, I got the Angel names from the TV section
of my local paper or from WB.com. (Just go to the Tuesday listing and they will show the
episode titles of that Tuesday's eps. Not previous eps though.)

Personally, I didn't care for the Nazi demon look. There's getting your point across subtly
and there's getting your point across with a sledgehammer. Guess which I thought this
was.

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By A. Sinclaire on Wednesday, December 29, 1999 - 11:12 am:

Thanks, Keith.

And Mark Morgan, what I meant was that I ask the site that put it up for the titles, we're
supposed to ask about episode summaries so I'm sure titles fall under the same
actagory, because they're the ones that got the info. And some people work hard to get
em-AleXander had them up sometimes 3 weeks 5 weeks ahead of time.

Oh, and an update on graffiti:For some reason no one can login at night, only day.
Email's still received at night, but they must close then or somethin. Strange, eh?

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By Mark Morgan on Wednesday, December 29, 1999 - 11:56 am:

Summaries are original creative work, while titles are just titles. Although I understand
your desire to show your appreciation. How about something like "Episode titles courtesy
SFTV. This will get them the most important reward: traffic.

Try Yahoo! mail, if you're hunting free e-mail. I rarely lets me down. It will even pick up
your ISP's mail.

<AOL>Me, too!</AOL>: totally agree on the sledgehammer. They have contempt for
humans. Why would they dress like them?

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By A. Sinclaire on Wednesday, December 29, 1999 - 06:06 pm:

Mark Morgan:Good idea. And I'd use yahoo mail but it hates me.I've switched emails so
many times anyhow I'm just gonna stay with grafffiti.
By Mark Morgan, Angel Moderator (Mmorgan) on Friday, February 11, 2000 - 10:56 pm:

Attention! This episode, for those who missed it, will air again on the WB on Wednesday, February 23rd at 9PM. Set your VCRs now.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Sunday, July 30, 2000 - 11:51 pm:

An interview with, I think a producer, of the shows has revealed that Doyle was not planned to die, but that there were problems on the set. No word on what those problems were, however.


By Mark Morgan on Monday, July 31, 2000 - 7:18 am:

KAM, where did you see this interview?


By Spornan on Monday, July 31, 2000 - 7:40 am:

I had heard from various websites that Joss had planned to kill a main character early into the series, to shake things up. Doyle was never planned to live to the season finale. And the actor who played him knew this.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 12:05 am:

It was in the paper a few days ago. (I had planned to post this then, but I got distracted. Darn shiny objects!) It was mostly about the upcoming season of Buffy, but also discussed Angel. I think it was a syndicated article, so it should have appeared in papers around the country.


By Mark Morgan on Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 6:36 am:

KAM, if you can recall the title I could look for it online, since AP is syndicated all over the place. Even a few keywords would be a start.


By KAM on Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 3:09 am:

I don't remember the title, but it started off talking about the new season of Buffy and her new kid sister Dawn to be played by Michelle Trachtenburg. Could that info help?


By Matt Pesti on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 11:09 am:

What the heck was with this episode? Not even fanfic gets this bad. Where to began?

Nazi Demons: I mean, usually when you have Nazis, you are trying to make some After School Special style point, at it's best "V: The Miniseries," at it's worse, "V: The Series." This was about how Doyle could have saved someone? I'm sorry, but these are Half Demons? They should be well able to take care of themselves, and some help from Irish boy wouldn't have made the difference.

"We have one law": If I remember correctly, the Demon World in the Buffyverse has one rule, and only one rule. Demons shall not kill other demons. Kill all the humans you like, just be discrete about it, but don't kill other demons. And this rule includes Vampires, so it should extend to Demons. Half-Demons also play a very important role in the Old Ones return, as they can move in the Earth Realm. Why hasn't anyone dealt with these guys?

The final comment is, why hasn't the Purging light been used again?


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