I think the establishing shot of the Rich guys house was used in the episode with the child actress who wants to be young again.
One of the demon prostitutes looked like one of the fire girls from She. I guess the johns pay in advance before having sex with her.
Why did the sister waste so much time talking when she could have just turned her brother into a vamp?
Early Angel is hunted to what looks like the vamp hunters' lair. Later Wesley is trying to find where the vamp hunters live by looking for power taps. Did I miss something? (Reception wasn't the best.)
---Why did the sister waste so much time talking when she could have just turned her brother into a vamp? ---
Like a cat playing with her kill.
I love at the end, when Angel kills the other Vamp, saying "The name's Angelus" I like when Angel uses his Angelus mythos to instill some fear in other vamps.
This episode kept reminding me of "West Side Story."
I thought it was a little predictible. When the sister & brother were saying how they'd always be together, I knew certainly one of them was going to die.
Even so, this was a good episode.
Of course when Angel says that his name is Angelus
he says it right before he dusts the head vampire
which was pretty cool!:)
Also Angelus had such a rep for being one of the
meanest and wickedst vamps around that even the
vampires in this story SHOULD have known him by
just his rep alone!
Gun certainly is an interesting character,hope
they bring him back.I also liked the moral dilemma
that they put him in..on the one hand he had to
protect his sister even though she was now a vampire,and on the other he had to protect the
rest of his people and dust her..Angel saves the
day by dusting her for him.
Ok..very predictable having Gun's sister turn into
a vamp..but what happened to the other kids that
were taken did the vampires eat them or turn them
into vamps as well?
I believe that Wesley got a mocha or something like that at the end,at any rate it had a whole
lotta whipped cream on it!:)
Scott, Gun killed his own sister, not Angel. I think Gun is back this week or next. I also heard that Bai Ling, who played the butt-kicking female from another dimension, will be back. That I'm waiting for.
I snorted somewhat disbelievingly during the opening battle scene when the guy manning the harpoon on top of the car was such a superb shot that he could unerringly fire arrows into the hearts of vampires who were flying through the air or running really fast. It especially jarred after I'd just seen the episode of Buffy where Spike, tied to a chair and therefore a sitting duck, was impaled by several arrows, none of which reached his heart!
Angel's "don't set foot in my territory again" speech at the end irritated me. In Britain we call people like him a NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard). He could as well have said: "Go eat people somewhere else - I don't care where, just as long as it's not anywhere near me." Shouldn't he have done his best to wipe these vampires out rather than send them on their way to kill more people?
It was obvious in the teaser that the vampire hunter was not Angel - I mean they wouldn't show Angel from the feet up, would they?
Gunn's gang tells him that some vamps are out there, he says "Let's look at them", and then runs into the night without any weapons! This guy is a vampire hunter?
Does anyone know the song by Jewel Kilcher: My little sister is a zombie in a body with no soul, a role she has learned to play in a world today where nothing else matter, but it matters, we gotta start feeding our souls ... Just thinking ...
A skinhead vamp? I like the touch. After watching Buffy for a while, you get the feeling that all vamps are cool, witty guys like Angel and Spike. This show makes it look a lot more disgusting.
Some of Gunn's army aren't "any older than sixteen"? Sixteen is a pretty high guess for his sister!
Ahem - if some kids go vamp hunting and you are the vamp king, would you dust your own followers in order to help the kids, or what?
What does Gunn mean, why does Angel live in a place like this? L. A. is perfect for vamps!
Where would he expect him to live, then?
The homeless kids' eating habits confused me. Once one of them mentioned that they had some tinned food and that there wasn't much to find in the waste, another time the sister said that they had meat and other fine things. If they found the meat in the waste, I don't think they should have eaten it.
The Watchers seem to have more fun than I thought, given that Wesley knew about the brothel right away.
I agree with Carrie Sullivan, the end was lame. Angel should have done something against these vamps - I mean he's stronger than everyone we've seen so far, and there were "only" four of them!
Ahhhhhhhhh! Like in Futurama they translated the title "Dungeons&Dragons" here...Pain! Pain!
If they plan to bring Gunn back as a regular character, and I'm afraid they do (since they made him look very heroic in this ep), I would have prefered them to change the story a bit: Why couldn't the leader of the kids be a girl about to protect her brother? It would have worked either way, it would have been less of a cliché, and at the end, we would have had a vamp-hunting female for further use. Not that I mind Gunn as a character, but a girl would balance things out a bit.
So far, we have a very competent vampire, a rather competent ex-Watcher, and Cordelia, who's an incredibly big idiot at her worst and a mere idiot at her best. When Faith was there in "Five by Five", she made the whole show much more interesting, but of course they can't keep her as a regular. And the only other woman, Kate, rarely shows up.
Electron: Come to think of it, it's a wonder that they leave us with Names like Spike, Angel, and Faith!
How did this blackmail thing work, anyway? From what the rich guy told Angel, it seems like he visited the brothel when he was a young computer freak, presumably some years ago. It didn't sound as if he had been famous and/or rich then. So this blackmail guy just happens to picture every client of the brothel? I think the owner would put a stop to that pretty quickly, since he could hardly do it without her noticing. Or did the blackmail guy KNOW somehow that this young geek would be famous someday?
I thought he was visiting the brothel in the past few months or so, a year ago at most. Certainly while he was on his way up, if not actually 'someone'. Have to go rewatch 
Bear in mind though, David didn't have to turn out to be famous for blackmail to work. If he'd been the head of a company, hell, if he'd even just had a wife and kids, he'd have been suitable blackmail material. It could be the guy with the camera was looking for a small payoff and just got lucky with a potential big one.
You mean David looks as if he had a wife and kids? :-)
If the photographer just wanted to blackmail someone who had a wife and kids, picturing the clients of a normal brothel would have done. If you're just looking for a small pay-off, you might want to stick to a human environment, rather than mess with demons.
David says that his friends knew about him going to the brothel. If my original idea is right and all this happened when he was not yet famous, it might be worth Angel's while to find out which of his former "friends" hired the photographer. But no one ever seems to think of that.
Best line: "You'll show me yours, I'll show you mine."
Not really a nit, but it was odd that at one point in this episode, Charles Gunn's sister calls him "Gunn" (she also calls him "G", but that's more understandable).