How did the police get a picture of Angel? Being a vampire, wouldn't his picture not show up??

At the end of last episode, Wesley wanted to kill Faith, then dropped his knife when he saw her crying & stuff, indicating that he had had some kind of realization that she could be rehabilitated. However, this episode begins with Wesley practically as mad as he had been when he grabbed the knife and dialogue indicates that shortly after the last scene of last week's show he & Angel had some kind of argument over how to deal with Faith.

Wesley said his right arm was partially numb. Then later we see him tossing darts with his right arm. Amazingly, even with a partially numb arm he manages to hit the board. (With a normal arm I have trouble hitting a dartboard, with a partially numb arm, I'd be a danger to everyone in the bar.)

Considering how prevelant demons & vampires are, wouldn't you expect that there would be police officers, maybe even special squads, who know about demons & vamps? I mean if the army finally realizes it, why wouldn't the cops, whose job involves investigating crime scenes, know more about them?

The snippet of Superman they showed was from one of the old Fleischer Superman cartoons. I didn't realize they aired those things anywhere. Of course, Warner Brothers owns Superman as well as the WB.

So, how does this episode tie into Buffy continuity? The Buffy ep that preceded this (New Moon Rising) didn't seem to end with Buffy about to head off to LA because she heard about Faith. So is there an earlier ep that would tie in better as a lead-in?

I was also wondering how Angel could be photographed, when a few eps earlier he didn't cast a reflection in a mirror.

So, Faith's in jail, begging the questions: Will she stay there; will she break out; will she have a major catfight and establish her new reign (assuming she goes to a woman's prison); will she go completely good or somehow revert back to her evil ways, or will she die in prison? Only Whedon knows and he ain't telling! Not even the actors know till the final moment, practically. I hope she stays bad. There's just something about Bad Faith. I guess she's kinda sexier that way. And, if her daddy, Ahnuld, goes up against terrorists again or some other baddie, she could help him out this time, instead of being a helpless girl again. (Ok, anyone who doesn't get that reference, please flagellate yourself 50 times, take a salt bath, dry off with a sandpaper robe and then leave.)

At the beginning of the episode, when Angel and Faith are riding in the elevator, she is soaking from the fight in the previous episode, but Angel seems nice and dry. Is this some new Vampire power? Magical Umbrella power on!

I am Poncho Man!

"The man of La Poncho"

Besides, since Buffy and Riley are hiding out from the initiative, how could Buffy go to LA? And, it seems like Buffy was very quick to help Faith when the helicopter came up (great shot), instead of letting her loose. It would have made more sense to let Faith loose when the helicopter came up, since Buffy was supposedly sooo mad at Faith. BTW, the helicopter shots were great, especially when Angel was standing on the skid. (hopefully, Boreanz doesn't have a fear of heights.)

Just how DID Buffy get down to L.A. Did Oz give her a ride? I don't remember seeing her driving a car around Sunnydale-ever. During this episode. The Watcher guys seemed to like to hesitate a few times before fire their automatics. When Buffy and Faith are running from the first gunman who can't seem to hit them, the helicopter comes up. All it does, though, is shine its light on the two slayers. They just stare at the helicopter for a hostile second of two. This should give mr Elite English Guy plenty of time to gun them down with his automatic. This happens again later after Buffy beats up one of the guys, the helicopter hovers above her with one of the Watcher guys in it. Once again she just stares at it giving him plenty of time to shoot before Angel jumps through the window.

Josh: it's well established that in any fight, if you pause dramatically nobody else can do anything until you're done. If you're trying to hide from them, then you can pause dramatically in plain sight and they'll miss you completely.

Handy information if you ever find yourself trapped in a movie or television fight scene.

Otherwise, how do you expect them to use a skylight as cover against a helicopter? Be reasonable, man!

And if you're ever attacked by multiple opponents, they'll only attack one at a time, conveniently leaving the weaker fighterrs till the end, so the exhausted hero can easily defeat them.

Here is a nit for ya:

When Wesley suggests that the sweeper team wont go in to get Faith because last time she kicked their butts, I had to laugh because it was not Faith it was Buffy in Faith's body.

But they didn't know it was Buffy in Faith's body, and there is no way for Wesley to know this, so while Wesley is technically wrong, it's not a nit.

(Even if Wesley did know about the body switch, why should he tell them?)

And before you bring up Buffy telling the thugs, I mean, sweeper team, about the switch. Why should they believe anything coming from the mouth of a rogue Slayer?

I thought Kate's line about Scully and Mulder was
one of the best of the episode,question do you
suppose she started watching the X-Files before
or after she met Angel?

Curiously you would have supposed in this week's
BUFFY that Giles might have said something about
Faith being in L.A. after his conversation with
Angel.

The question about Buffy driving is a good one
as the only ones who seem to drive on BUFFY are
Angel,Giles, Spike,and Oz,at least they're the
only ones I've ever seen drive,which raises the
question don't any of the girls know how to drive?

So why DID the Buffmeister decide to make an
appearance?Obviously she didn't know about Faith
being around 'cause she seemed pretty shocked,well,I guess if you saw the woman who once
tried to off your significant other in said person's arms for whatever reason you'd be shocked
too!

Now that Faith's in jail, will she be changing her catchphrase '5 by 5' to '8 by 6' ;-) Sorry couldn't resist.

Cordy knows how to drive, but I don't remeber any of the others doing it. Perhaps public transportation is so wonderful in California that no one actually has to have a car?

Kate's comment about the X-Files brings up a nit. Seth Green once made a guest appearance on the X-Files on the episode "Deep Throat". Is it possible that Oz or anyone that knows him could have watched that episode and seen someone that looks exactly like Oz now that we know that the X-Files exists on Buffy? I guess you could explain this by saying that Mulder and Scully are so famous that even LAPD knows about them. This episode also occured around the time of the X-Files episode where Hollywood made a movie about their cases. Even if this were true, would that mean that there are two people in the world that look exactly like Oz?

If I recall correctly (improbably, given how seldom a certain series is shown out here), Xena once made a point of actor-reuse simply meaning identical people! (I think one of the handful of Xena lookalikes was actually someone Lucy played in one of the Hercules films.)

As for how Buffles got to LA, couldn't she have just jumped on the Greyhound like Faith did?

Mind you, characters in Buffy seem to have the ability to never have to drive anywhere... (They seem perfectly content to walk between all the major locations...)

Perhaps they teleport?

Would that mean that there are two people in the world that look exactly like Oz?

Actually there are three. A guy who works in my local branch of Woolworths must be sick of me staring at him every time I go in there - he looks so much like Seth/Oz that I keep thinking that it is him!

This was a good ep, although not as fast-paced and exciting as last week's "Five by Five".

As for Wesley, I was under the impression that he merely dropped the knife because she wasn't a danger at the moment and he wouldn't stab her in the back when she was crying helplessly. That doesn't mean that he doesn't want her punished.

Angel certainly is the world's worst counselor! When he talked to Faith about how she never could undo all the evil she's done, and how her conscience would haunt her till the end of time, I really expected her to turn around and say "If it doesn't matter at all, tell me one reason why I should even TRY to be good."

It's nice to have Cordy out of the way for an ep, I wouldn't mind her staying on vacation much longer. (However, most male viewers probably would.) Yet I wasn't impressed with her tricking Angel into signing the papers for her paid vacation. Does that mean that this is a legal business with work contracts and everything? If he choses not to pay her, will she sue him? (I'm sure she could get a good lawyer - W&L probably wouldn't even charge any fees as long as the opponent is Angel.)

Faith may be a psycho, but she hasn't killed anyone in L. A., and a few disco fights don't seem enough to make it on nationwide TV. Aren't there any other potentially dangerous people in L. A.? Also the policeman says that she has supernatural powers, but that seems a wild guess, given what she's done so far. She's strong, but she didn't throw people into walls or stuff. They could as well think that she knows about martial arts. If people believe in the supernatural that easily, they should have found out about all the vamps long ago.

Faith is not from Sunnydale, as was said in the TV report.

The Watcher-killer says that Faith must be stopped because she's ready to use her supernatural powers for evil. He seems a little slow to recognise that. She was using her powers for evil when she was working for the Mayor! If it bothered the Watchers, why didn't they sneak into the hospital when she was in a coma and take her to England, or even kill her?

Buffy says she never killed a human being, but that's certainly not for lack of her trying! She did stab Faith in order to kill her and to give her to Angel to feed. At least, Faith didn't WANT to kill the man in "Bad Girls", with whom it all started. Also, as in "This Year's Girl", Buffy talks lengthily about what Faith has done to her, without thinking about whether some of the blame belongs to her.

Buffy doesn't come across very well in this ep. Going to L. A. just to seek revenge AND to tell Angel about her new boyfriend seems a little cruel, especially when, as he points out, HE can't allow himself to find a new girlfriend. I know that Buffy was shocked about finding Faith in Angel's arms, but he's not her boyfriend anymore, and if she doesn't want to see him with other women she shouldn't poke her nose into his business. Besides, SHE has a new boyfriend WHO HUNTS VAMPIRES FOR A LIVING. Angel probably wouldn't approve of that any more than she does of Faith.

When Angel hits Buffy, he says that she hit him first and that she is stronger than he is. When Buffy and Faith were fighting in previous episodes, they always seemed pretty well-balanced. And when Faith fought Angel in "Five by Five", she really wasn't a match for him. So how can Buffy be stronger than Angel?

Maybe Faith is a more skillful fighter than Buffy, that would cancel any strenght advantage Buffy had.
I think, though, that Faith wanted Angel to kill her at the end of the last episode. Angel though was definitely holding back in that fight so it's difficult to judge.
Slayers have to be stronger than vamps otherwise their odds of surviving a fight are only 50%\50%. Slayers would have a much shorter life span if that was the case.