Five by Five

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Angel: Season One: Five by Five
Summary
Faith is in town, and it's not a fun thing. Still dangerously unstable, she's the perfect tool for the evil Wolfram and Hart to use against Angel. Meanwhile, in the past, Angelus makes the mistake of killing a gypsy girl, which gains him his soul.

Ruminations and nits
Faith is just about the best darn thing to happen to this spinoff. She's a great character, and Eliza Dushku plays her to the max. She moves the story along better than Wolfram and Hart have been able to do on their own.

Speaking of which, it's nice to see them back but they need to get way badder before I'm going to be impressed. C'mon--Spike could take these guys out (before the chip in his head). Or the mayor. Or Faith, if she took it on herself to go on a little rampage. They just aren't working as scary for me. Also not working for me were the scenes set in the past. They seemed to be not much more than filler. And do any of you long-time Buffy fans know if any of it is new, or is it just recycled? It feels recycled, and stuck on. Hey, Angel is tortured by the memories of what he's done. We get it! Back to the story now! Sheesh.

Nice continuation of the Faith redemption arc. And Buffy to guest star next week! Things are looking up for this series.

My only nit is to wonder how impotent the Council of Watchers is. Sure, they sent one cleaner team after her and she escaped. What's stopping them from doing the same again? I don't know enough of the Buffy storyline to know, but why isn't the city crawling with dangerous British people? Doesn't the Council at the very least have the same resources as Wolfram and Hart to figure out where Faith is?

I was sure at the end that Faith was going to see Wesly and the knife and go ballistic and it was all going to go downhill. Again with the continuing storylines--not everything in the world has to be contained in the episode. Next week looks good.
By Mark Morgan on Tuesday, March 28, 2000 - 7:24 pm:

Tell me that's not an intriguing title for an episode.


By Richie Vest on Tuesday, March 28, 2000 - 7:50 pm:

It's Got to be about Faith


By KAM the Merciless on Wednesday, March 29, 2000 - 2:16 am:

Mark: March 25th was a Saturday. Could you mean April 25th?

Mark's original About message read Airs Tuesday, March 25th.


By Keith Alan Morgan on Tuesday, April 25, 2000 - 11:46 pm:

So how short is the actress who plys Faith if she has to wear such big, clonky-heeled shoes? Although those big, heavy shoes do explain why her kicks hurt so much.

Wolfram & Hart are back. I wonder who, or what, is on the other end of those phone conversations?

So did Angel bite that woman after he got his soul back or not? It looked like their might have been a red spot on her neck, but I wasn't sure.


By Mark Morgan on Wednesday, April 26, 2000 - 12:17 am:

Keith, I couldn't find Eliza Dushku's height anywhere. As for the woman, she clearly brushed some bite marks on her neck, but Angel couldn't carry it through.


By KAM on Wednesday, April 26, 2000 - 1:12 am:

I wonder if the writer originally created Wolfram & Hart because of the Wolfe & Byrde, Counselors Of The Macabre comic strip/book?


By Richie Vest on Wednesday, April 26, 2000 - 9:35 am:

Actually the past scenes seem to be like the TV series "Forever Knight". I agree though they seem to be tagged on for some reason.


By margie on Wednesday, April 26, 2000 - 10:33 am:

This was an excellent episode. I'm glad they acknowledged the Watcher/Slayer relationship between Wesley & Faith. My sister's fiance must be psychic-he predicted next week's episode before the trailer ran!


By Mark Morgan on Wednesday, April 26, 2000 - 1:33 pm:

Joss Whedon agrees with me that Faith is a strong character. I'm hoping Angel can build some strong characters of its own.


By Scott McClenny on Sunday, April 30, 2000 - 2:44 pm:

I think that the flashback scenes were kind of
confusing at first 'cause they really didn't appear to have anything to do with what was actually happening in the episode with Faith.

Loved the ending,especially the fact that Angel
was willing to let Faith beat the stuffings out
of him,he could have torn her apart any time he
wanted,but he just stood there and let her work
out all her guilt and anger until she broke down
and cried.

Speaking of guilt,Wesley showed some himself not
only because he was her Watcher but also he was
the one that unwittingly let her free the first
time.


By JGordon on Thursday, May 04, 2000 - 12:49 pm:

Wasn't Wesly Faith's second watcher? I seem to remember that her first watcher was killed by Mr. Trick.


By KAM on Friday, May 05, 2000 - 12:39 am:

Actually, I believe Faith's first watcher was killed by the ancient vampire Kakistos (sp?). And since Faith was forced to watch it, probably her first really big mental trauma that helped in sending her over the edge.


By Spornan on Friday, May 05, 2000 - 6:44 am:

In a way, Wesley is her 3rd watcher, but since the second one wasn't a real watcher, it doesn't count.

I still remember the first time Buffy and Faith meet wesley. I'm paraphrasing, cause I can't remember the whole thing.
(Buffy Meets Wesley)
Buffy: New Watcher? Is this one evil?
Wesley: Pardon?
Buffy: The last one was evil.
(Faith meets Wesley)
Faith: Who's this?
Buffy: New watcher.
Faith: Screw that (walks off)
Buffy: Why didn't I think of that?


By KAM on Friday, May 05, 2000 - 11:08 pm:

Didn't Giles act as Faith's Watcher until a new one was assigned?
1. 1st Watcher (did she have a name?) - Killed
2. Giles - Interim Watcher - Temporary, but I believe authorized
3. (forget her name) - Fake Watcher (actually an ex-Watcher) - Dead
4. Wesley - Assigned Watcher - Fired


By Art Vandelay on Saturday, May 06, 2000 - 12:12 am:

Just as well she went rogue, KAM, no other watcher would have taken the job with that resume.
Superb episode.


By Spornan on Saturday, May 06, 2000 - 2:42 am:

I think that by the time Faith came around, Giles had already quit being a Watcher. He's still not a Watcher to this very day. Wesley was the assigned Watcher to both Faith and Buffy, apparently.


By Art Vandelay on Saturday, May 06, 2000 - 9:07 am:

No, Giles quit in the episode 'Helpless' about half way thru S3. Faith had been there since about the third episode 'Faith, Hope and Trick'


By Richie Vest on Saturday, May 06, 2000 - 9:55 am:

No Giles was fired


By netrat on Wednesday, May 02, 2001 - 2:15 pm:

The bit where Faith beat up the guy, then took his jacket and money and key, would have been much better if she hadn't explained afterwards that now "she had money, and a place to stay". Hey, we got that already! We aren't dumb (unless Riley is watching, too)! But I really liked it that the guy didn't exactly try any bad moves on Faith, because she's just the kind to beat up people for no good reason, and it's no good making her look too nice.

I also liked Faith dancing in the bar. It was really nice to see what a Slayer could do if she didn't use her powers solely for the public good.

The W&L lawyer in the courtyard looked a lot like Pierce Brosnan's James Bond.

Cordelia said that when Angel was happy, his usual dark face wasn't as dark as usual. Excuse me? When he was happy he became Angelus!

When Angel got his soul back, with his hair all around his face, he looked EXACTLY like Antonio Banderas in Desperado!

In this ep, they spoil quite a lot of good jokes. Angel talking about a dumb Englishman kidnapping Faith, for example, is great, but Cordy then ruins it by explaining the joke to make sure we get it.

Seeing Faith and Cordy face to face really makes you think about Cordy's supposed age.

This Angelus stuff is quite interesting, but it doesn't quite fit into the rest of the ep. It really doesn't. Unless the ep's topic is "no matter how bad you are, you can always become a part of society again." And they do seem to stress this point. But I like Buffy and Angel better when they don't throw their messages into the viewers' faces.

Where did Faith learn her torturing methods? Perhaps she invented them herself, but she sounded like she quoted from a book. It's not really something Giles or Wesley would have taught her.

When Angelus escaped from the Alley, muttering "I can't, I can't", was anyone else thinking of Spike?

Next time Faith escapes, I have a tip where to look for her: in all shops that sell those really tight leather pants.

All in all, a great ep. Keep the Faith!


By Matt Pesti on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 8:12 pm:

Apparently the point of the Flashback scenes refer to the Faith/ Angel Relationship. Angel feels a need to rehabilitate Faith, due to his own century long attempts at redemption. He was in the same place where she is now.


By Ryan Whitney on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 10:43 am:

Didn't Giles act as Faith's Watcher until a new one was assigned?
1. 1st Watcher (did she have a name?) - Killed
2. Giles - Interim Watcher - Temporary, but I believe authorized
3. (forget her name) - Fake Watcher (actually an ex-Watcher) - Dead
4. Wesley - Assigned Watcher - Fired


3. Gwendolyn Post


By KAM on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 1:28 am:

Thanks.


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