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Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Angel: Season Five: You're Welcome
By Josh M on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 11:34 pm:

Wow. I loved this one. Amazing. It was great to see Cordelia again. Charisma was so freakin' hot. Wow.

It was nice to see the Doyle video again. I miss him. And Glenn.

So, that's it, Lindsey's gone. Seemed a little anticlimactic to me, but ah well. I wonder what will happen with the rest of the season.

I definitely didn't expect that ending. I wonder if the rest of the gang will remember her being there.

When Lindsey sneaks into W&H he uses a card on a security door. He swipes the card and the door opens. So, what were the buttons with the numbers on them for?


By Keith Alan Morgan on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 12:46 am:

Lindsay says, "The Senior Partners gave that eurotrash vampire everything I worked for."
Excuse me? Didn't you leave Wolfram & Hart? Why should they give you the company?
The really annoying thing was that we didn't learn why Lindsay was doing this. Just a little meaningless, "I've changed." comment and that's that. Hopefully this won't be the end of the Lindsay story, otherwise the ending would be way too anticlimatic.


By MarkN (Markn) on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 1:18 am:

Cleavage cleverly included in every scene! :)

This episode was full of nice throwoffs.

Throwoff #1
I didn't think about this till later but that was Cordy's ghost closing the curtain of her own bed, and the fact that she wasn't freaked out about it. Kudos! I actually thought it was another woman but now that I think about it no other woman was ever shown, let alone even hinted at, in the room.

Throwoff #2
Just who exactly called Angel to tell him that Cordy "woke up" anyway?

Throwoff #3
And when Spike tried biting her how could he not tell that she was a ghost (nevermind when ditzy Harmony hugged Cordy)? I guess it wasn't by chance that he just happened to become corporeal in time to bite her to see if she was a demon, either.

Throwoff #4
And if she's a ghost then why did she get shocked when she was trying to figure out Lindsay's contraption before the demon inside could be released?


By KAM on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 1:31 am:

I don't think she was entirely a ghost. TPTB probably gave her a corporeal body for the length of this mission. She did go shopping and wear clothes and touch people.

Spike became corporeal several episodes (weeks?) ago, heck, last ep he had his hands chopped off.

And why did it take so long for that demon to be released? If the Senior Partners wanted this to take care of Angel then shouldn't it be released faster? Or was Lindsay's superstrength & other tricks the anti-Angel thing?


By Matthew Patterson (Mpatterson) on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 8:49 am:

I felt that the demon was kind of lame; what would have been interesting is if they'd been preserving one of Angel's previous foes in there. Like, say, the Beast. (Really, that's what I thought it was going to be, since its prison was so huge.)

I think that was my general complaint about this episode; there were many potentially interesting scenes that just got passported. We really should have seen Cordy's first reaction to being told that Angel and the gang now run Wolfram and Hart. We skip straight from the hospital room to the office. I can't imagine that Cordy wouldn't have had something to say about it. (I suppose it's possible that they just didn't tell her, but then why in the world would she voluntarily walk into the mysteriously restored Woflram and Hart building?) And, as has been said, Lindsey and Eve's motivations are just... lame.

I must also say, I never saw the ending coming. I figured they'd tell her about what was going on with Buffy, and she'd run off to see Xander or someone. (Oh, other hilarious scene: Cordy finding out about Spike and Buffy. Or Harmony and Spike, if she hadn't already known.) I'm not pleased to have lost the good old Cordy, especially since she hasn't actually been around since "Birthday," but at least they did it in a way that I wasn't expecting.


By KAM on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 3:13 am:

In this month's Sequential Tart Wolfie Moondaughter, in her Angelwatching column, felt that the creators had ruined Lindsey's character. (And she was talking about the ep where he reappeared this season.)


By Matt Pesti on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 4:11 pm:

Matt Patterson: Eve said that the demon was designed to defeat Angel. Some sort of horrible swarming flying creatures Angel can't hit, like flesh eating scarabs or something.


By Matthew Patterson (Mpatterson) on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 9:33 pm:

Right, but what's the point of that? Where's the resonance? One-off nigh-omnipotent enemies don't play well. In that sense, I suppose it's good that we didn't actually *see* the giant horrible thing, whatever it was, but still.


By netrat on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 10:41 am:

Good episode.

However, I'm becoming more and more puzzled as to how this entire "Who's Connor?" thing is supposed to work.

Wes remembers taking an ax to Lilah ("Lineage"), and remembers that a possessed Cordy killed Lilah, and remembers that Cordy gave birth to something horrible (at least, he doesn't look puzzled when Cordy says so in the hospital). He doesn't remember any father-son prophecies, though. Just what does he think happened last season? "Darla died - no idea why. I got my throat slashed, no idea why, and fell out with the others, no idea why, and slept with Lilah, no idea why, before she was killed by something that had possessed Cordy but come to think of it, I'm not sure how it managed to do that, either."
Seriously - every element of the Jasmine arc is in some way connected to Connor. And I really cannot see why someone as inquisitive and illusion-hating as Wes would never bring up the many missing or at best incomplete memories.


By netrat on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 10:46 am:

NIT: Why was Cordy in a hospital gown? You'd think the Powers could have given her some clothes to go with that body, much like the Senior Partners brought back Lilah AND her stylish outfits in "Home". Also, the other woman (that is, Cordy's body) was wearing normal clothes.

The reason, of course, might be that the Powers don't care about clothes and just gave her a naked body, and she only had time to sneak a hospital gown from a closet before Angel and Wes showed up.


Another nit, to go with my previous post: When Cordy asks Angel and Wes if they kicked Jasmine's butt, Angel looks embarrassed and so does Wes - but Wes doesn't remember Connor. Angel's embarrassment is probably due to the entire "let's not bring up my supposedly non-existant son in front of my brainwashed friends" issue, but why is Wes embarrassed. Wouldn't he remember some sort of clean solution to the Jasmine arc, presumably that Angel killed her (since he was on scene), and just answer "we did"?


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