Friends: Love it or Hate It?

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Friends: Central Perk (The Friends Kitchen Sink): Friends: Love it or Hate It?
By Bab on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 9:26 am:

My apologies but what a dismal comedy show. It is a comedy, right?


By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 10:00 am:

Yep. I like it. To each his own. :)


By Brian Fitzgerald on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 12:17 pm:

I like it too.


By Brian Webber on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 2:34 pm:

I used to like it. I come here to reminisc(sp? I'm tired and in a hurry)) about the good ol' days.


By Bab on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 3:43 pm:

Type of comedies I like:
All in the Family
Golden Girls
Hogan's Heroes
Get Smart
Three's Company
Soap(early stuff)......

Yah, to each his own.

(Simpson's probably #1)


By Bab on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 3:45 pm:

'Popular comedies' I didnt like (but tried to get into)
Mash
Mary Tyler Moore
Seinfeld
Married with children
Cheers


By Sgt. Schultz on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 4:07 pm:

Hogan's Heroes

Do you have any Strudel?


By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 8:05 pm:

Wow, this must be the most traffic I've gotten her in my little corner of Nit-C ever!

Bab, I LOVE Golden Girls for the same reason I love Chandler on Friends: Dorothy and Sophia's razor-sharp hilarious sarcasm.

Rose, petting her pet pig: "He's really a rebel. In many ways, he reminds me of Jimmy Dean."
Dorothy, with her trademark contempt: "The actor, or the sausage?"

I loved Three's Company as a kid, and was shocked and a bit heartbroken when I heard John Ritter died. I met him and his beautiful wife in person in Oct. 2000, and he was really nice. I'll miss him.

I remember watching Get Smart and Soap as a kid, but don't remember much about them in terms of quality now. I've never watched a lot of All in the Family or MASH. I think I saw one ep of the latter, and maybe some of the former, which I barely remember.

Other great comedies: Cheers, and Night Court (not counting the last two or three seasons). :)

Friends is running out of steam a bit, but the jokes are still okay, and I'm glad it's coming to an end on a relatively good note of quality. I hope Ross smacks Joey for even THINKING of having Rachel, and finally ends up with her by the sereis' end.


By Bab on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 10:19 pm:

Get Smart was great, a spy spoof. Mel Brooks was involved, as well as profession comic writers such as Buck Henry and Arne Sultan.

Production values great, lots of outdoor shots and attention to detail. Some routine was repetitive, but lots of satire and high camp. Old Batman series good this way too.
I'll give 'Friends' a second try then if Luigi Nova gives it the thumbs up!
;-).


By LUIGI NOVI on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 2:38 am:

Novi. Not Nova. (Think Latin for "new.") I'm not an exploding star. Or a Chevy. :)


By Bab on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 9:38 am:

My apologies.


By LUIGI NOVI on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 11:02 pm:

Don't sweat it. :)


By Brian Webber on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 9:31 am:

I liked Golden Girls too. I'm glad I can actually admit it wihtout too much fear of a verbal ripping that would make Peter (of Peter of NitCentral fame) go, "Oh c'mon, that's just mean!"


By LUIGI NOVI on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 11:02 am:

Why would he think liking that show was mean?


By Brian Webber on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 12:41 am:

No, you misunderstand. At most other boards, when i admit I like that show, I get ripped into as if I'd just asked if I could rape the moderator's kids while he watched. THAT'S the kind of ripping that would make even Peter go "Oh be nice!"


By Nove Rockhoomer on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 3:09 pm:

Friends is a great show, but it has lost some of its spark the last couple of seasons or so IMO. I've seen the previous ones over and over again, but I can't see doing that with the current ones. I feel exactly the same about All in the Family and M*A*S*H. No comedy can measure up to those three in their prime.

Oh, and Batman and Soap are way up there on my list, too. And one show that wasn't mentioned - Everybody Loves Raymond.


By LUIGI NOVI on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 6:42 pm:

I hate Batman and Everybody Loves Raymond. Can't stand to watch either one of them.


By Bab on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:36 am:

Great Batman dialog:
ROBIN:
"Gee, Batman, is there anything you dont know?"
BATMAN:
"Oh yes Robin, several things in fact."


By Brian Webber on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 10:11 pm:

I hate Raymond as well, but I got nothign against Patricia Heaton if you know what I mean. She may be a Right Wign Nut, but she's a hot adn sexy Right Wing Nut with a nice rack. :)


By Hannah F., West Wing Moderator (Cynicalchick) on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 12:19 am:


Quote:

Novi. Not Nova. (Think Latin for "new.") I'm not an exploding star. Or a Chevy.





Heheh. I misread that, and was about to make a comment about Fords.


By Gerald Ford on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 12:25 pm:

I'm not a Lincoln, I'm a Ford, and Ford has new ideas.


By ScottN on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 12:34 pm:

Watch out for that step, Mr. President! :)

Seriously, though, I once met President Ford, and heard him speak. Very nice and intelligent man.


By And I am Richard M. Nixon, Still not a Croooooooooooook on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:48 am:

sigh will the Real Gerald Ford please stand up...:)


By The Head of Pamela Anderson on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 9:18 am:

Nah... He'd just fall down.


By Hannah F., West Wing Moderator (Cynicalchick) on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 6:09 pm:

Heheh. Futurama ROCKS.


And the show? I like it sometimes, sometimes I don't. *shrug* I prefer Will & Grace over it, though.


By The Practicing Sodomite on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 8:45 pm:

I'm out of the bunch as well. I've never liked Friends, Seinfeld, Cheers, or Frasier for that matter. Maybe they were simply too popular and I prefer a more cult-like show to embrace. I have no doubt "Joey" will sink like a stone, but I can't blame LeBlanc for taking the money. Coupling is dreadful. I'm surprised they haven't attempeted a Will & Grace spin-off. They couldn't afford to lose Jack or Karen. Maybe a Rosario show where she goes to work for a family, An Anti-Nanny.


By LUIGI NOVI on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 8:56 pm:

I thought Coupling was funny. I thought Lindsey was the hilarious breakout character. (And she's hot too.)


By Brian Fitzgerald on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 11:14 pm:

I also liked coupling, but I see why it didn't work in the ratings. It had the kind of juvenile humor that offends many but is still too sanitized for people who’d rather watch the real thing on HBO, Showtime and Cinemax. Also the British show that it’s based on is apparently just a rip-off of friends with the kind of overt sexuality that you can have in Britain, but can’t have here on network TV.


By The Still Practicing almost got it Sodomite on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 9:10 pm:

I agree about Coupling. They advertised it as this ultra-sexy show and it was tamer than most Three's Company episodes. They probably should just give Queer Eye a regular Thursday slot.


By Brian Webber on Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 2:44 pm:

The only half-hour show I still make a point to watch every week anymore is Scrubs. Sure, on those rare occasions when I'm not working or going to a Kucnicnh 2004 MeetUp of a Thrusday (1st Thursday of every month for the Meet Ups), I MIGHT watch Friends, but for the most part I just don't find the comedies on network TV all that funny anymore. And I'm still PO'ed about ABC canning Sports Night and Clerks. I get my comedy fix from Scrubs, South Park, and re-runs of Duckman and The Critic (and Dilbert if I get home in time).


By LUIGI NOVI on Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 11:18 pm:

Yeah, Scrubs is great. My friend Chris Lopez introduced me to it, and I love it. The sight gags remind me of Zucker Bros. movies and Family Guy. And Sarah Chalke and Judy Reyes are HOT. :)


By Electron on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 4:21 pm:

I liked the original Coupling.


By Jesse on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 3:10 pm:

Luigi Novi: Yeah, Scrubs is great. My friend Chris Lopez introduced me to it, and I love it. The sight gags remind me of Zucker Bros. movies and Family Guy.

That's it. I've been trying to put my finger on it, but you figured it out: it's like watching a live-action Family Guy. I've stopped watching it lately because I really don't care for a lot of the new things they've introduced, like Jordan and Dr. Cox and their relationship. It's taken on too serious of an attitude for me, in certain ways.


By Merat on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 1:08 pm:

Ahh, Get Smart, my favorite tv show. I've shown my few tapes of it to many people, and have yet to come across any who haven't laughed. I'm also not afraid to watch it with children in the room, well, most of the episodes anyway. Thats not something I can say about most modern sitcoms.


By Adam Bomb on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 1:08 am:

Curb Your Enthusiasm. I've only been watching it since Jan. '04, but it's hilarious. The situations that Larry David gets himself into are outrageous. For example, in one episode, Larry hires a prostitute, not for sex but to ride with him in the HOV lane to Dodger Stadium, to beat traffic. Mr. David is totally self-involved, and I think he has only one friend in the entire world (Jeff Greene, played by Jeff Garlin.) Why Jeff has stuck by Larry David through all the idiocy is beyond me.
Also, I've found that the show appeals more to men. The women I know don't find this show funny.


By Brian Webber on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 11:42 am:

Women and me. I've only seen clips of the show, I admit since I don't have HBO anymore (I dropped it after OZ was cancelled, •••• 'em), but seeing as the clips being shown were alledgedly from "the funnier moments" of the series, and I didn't even crack a smile, this doesn't bode well. I got more laughs out of Titanic.


By Thande on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 12:23 pm:

Given what most US TV companies do to British TV shows that they try to remake (read: "ruin" :)) I'm not surprised that the US version of Coupling bombed.

However, in my opinion the original British version of Coupling is one of the finest comedies of recent years - and certainly the most clever. (You may think this is strange because some of the humour may sound crude, but I'm referring to the masterful storytelling tricks used by the writer, Steven Moffat. I'm thinking particularly of showing the same scene from several different people's point of view - highlighting the different ways in which men and women remember things). Season 4, which has just started showing in the UK, proves that there are still good ideas in the format, too, though I was saddened to see the loss of the character Jeff Murdoch for film projects.

Electron, did you see the British version in English, or a German dub? I ask because I have a hard time believing some of the wordplay would translate that easily.


By Electron on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:30 pm:

It was the dub but nevertheless very funny. I even recognized some of the quotes from the BBC's website.


By Thande on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 12:32 am:

That's true. The website has a seemingly endless number of quotes, but annoyingly instead of simply listing them they have them on a random-selection thingy which means you sometimes get the same one over and over.

The website also includes short clips of all the episodes, so perhaps the US posters here might want to take a brief look to compare it with the US version of Coupling? I'd be interested to see just how badly this comedy was ruined for the US market. :)

Web address: www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/coupling


By LUIGI NOVI on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 9:24 pm:

Funny, I saw the first two episodes of the U.S. Coupling, and I thought it was funny.


By Thande on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 2:16 am:

Were those first two episodes direct adaptation of the first two episodes of UK Coupling? (Oh wait, you haven't seen them of course. But synopses for the episodes are given on the web page I mentioned above).


By LUIGI NOVI on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 8:13 am:

The second and third U.K. episode sounds like the first and second U.S. episode.


By Thande on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 9:04 am:

So they missed out 'Flushed'? Interesting...


By LUIGI NOVI on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 1:58 pm:

I don't know. It was a while ago, and I didn't watch beyond the second ep, so maybe they used that for the third one.


By Thande on Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 1:32 am:

I don't see how they could have done, as "Flushed" is the episode which sets up the whole situation and shows Steve's hopelessly mismanaged breakup with Jane and move to Susan. Actually, beyond that the episode IS mostly superfluous, so there you go.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, November 08, 2023 - 5:26 am:

CTV Comedy did a "Best Of Chandler" run in tribute to Matthew Perry.


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