Winston Churchill

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: Political Musings: Political Figures: Winston Churchill
By Natalie Granada Television (Natalie_granada_tv) on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 8:03 pm:

Had his first cousin the Duke of Malborough had female children or no children and had still died in 1934, Winston would have inherited the Dukedom and been elevated to the House of Lords. Since the Commons is where any Prime Minister has to be, there would have been a different British PM during WWII.


By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Tuesday, June 02, 2020 - 12:15 pm:

That's one way the opposition party could get rid of him. In the US, many poloticians have been gotten rid of by making them Vice-President.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Monday, October 12, 2020 - 5:31 am:

This is a man I've long admired. A man who, when his country needed a strong leader, stepped up.

Winston drew a line in the sand and basically said: "Go ahead, Adolf, make my day."


By Judi Jeffreys, Granada in NorthWest (Jjeffreys_mod) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 11:59 am:

Ah, that legendary Tory Churchill.

This might well be apocryphal but it's too good not to share:


quote:

During WWII he assigned a young Labour MP to the Ministry of Culture and Arts (as it was then) and said MP approached him privately and said
"Look I appreciate the job but aren't there more important things to worry about with a war on?"
Churchill sighed and came out with the legendary reply
"Without the arts, what the are we fighting for?"



By ScottN (Scottn) on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 6:27 pm:

Sorry, Judi. Lovely sentiment, but urban legend.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/winston-churchill-on-the-arts/


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 - 5:11 am:

No doubt there are many such rumours in circulation.

When you have a larger than life figure like Mr. Churchill, stories like this are bound to crop up.


By Judi Jeffreys, Granada in NorthWest (Jjeffreys_mod) on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 - 7:34 am:

to Tim: fake quotes seem to always get attached to famous mouths.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 - 5:17 am:

Or distorted.

Someone heard Mr. Churchill say something, and told someone else. Someone else then told someone else, and on, and on, and on.

Over the years (or decades), the quote will no doubt get distorted, especially if the original statement was never written down or recorded.


By Judi Jeffreys, Granada in NorthWest (Jjeffreys_mod) on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 - 4:09 pm:

Famous dead people make excellent commentators on current events so putting a fake quote or statement in a famous mouth lends authority to your convictions.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, October 22, 2020 - 5:20 am:

Except when idiots like Orange do it. His situation is nothing like the one Mr. Churchill faced (having a hostile power knocking on his door), so Orange comparing himself to Mr. Churchill is ridiculous.


By Judi Jeffreys, Granada in NorthWest (Jjeffreys_mod) on Thursday, October 22, 2020 - 5:42 am:

Do you think Chamberlain would have made a good wartime leader?
To his credit, Chamberlain did realise that Hitler was an evil man... just a little too late.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, October 22, 2020 - 5:50 am:

Do you think Chamberlain would have made a good wartime leader?

Four words: Peace in our time.

In other words, no. Besides, it didn't matter anyway, the cancer would have killed him, regardless of whether he resigned or not (if you wish to start a thread about him, knock yourself out).

Mr. Churchill was in the right place at the right time. He was the right leader to stare down Adolf Hitler.


By Natalie RD QL (Rdnat) on Tuesday, June 29, 2021 - 4:58 am:

The loss of Churchill beyond 1941 is not a disaster for the British Empire and Its Dominions Beyond The Seas

He had done his job during the northern Summer of 1940 - made sure Britain stayed in the war - made sure that the Government had a stiffened spine.

In many respects he meddled too much and interfered where a Prime Minister should not have.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, June 30, 2021 - 5:03 am:

In wartime, the rules are different.


By Natalie RD QL (Rdnat) on Wednesday, June 30, 2021 - 5:58 am:

Mackenzie King in your neck of the woods was pretty difficult himself, as was de Valera in Southern Ireland..


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, July 01, 2021 - 5:07 am:

Different times call for different leaders.

We never lived in the world that those men lived in. We can only read about it.


By Natalie RD QL (Rdnat) on Friday, September 10, 2021 - 8:30 am:

It was more Kitchener’s fault that Gallipoli went wrong. Still Kitchener got what was coming to him elsewhere for those dead Tommys and Anzacs so not a complete loss.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 - 5:27 am:

Leaders like Mr. Churchill are sadly lacking today.


By E K (Eric) on Thursday, January 26, 2023 - 4:58 pm:

so true. Spent many a year studying Sir Winston. Even Charmley coudn't tear down his reputation, though he was energetic about it.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, January 27, 2023 - 5:46 am:

Volodymyr Zelenskyy reminds me much of Winston Churchill.


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