1. Given Lister has been pining for Kochanski for the past six seasons, why isn't he drooling for the rest of season seven and doing everything he can to get her into bed?
2. Who really believes dental floss could support Kochanski's weight?
1. Because he really loves Claire Grogan!
2. Space Corp Issue Dental Floss IS the best in the universe.
We all love Clare Grogan but in the context of the show, OK?
Chris--I thought Lister WAS drooling over Kochanski and doing everything he could to get into her bed.
Of course, he's been in love with a memory. The living, crabby, Ms. Perfectionist reality that is Alt-Kochanski is probably putting him off his feed a bit.
He certainly eyes this Kochanski off - she's the first woman for years - but as you say, his desperate dream was to get her back and now his dream is a reality it probably isn't living up to his expectations.
BTW, the correct terminology for the female in series VII and VIII is "Imposter Kochanski."
Kotchanski changing: In her universe The Inquisitor may have replaced her, & the crew accepted this, or one of her ancestors have have been replaced.
I beleive that Lister recognized her as Kochanski and the resurrected crew in Series 8 recognized her as Kochanski. I don't remember one line of dialogue questioning her different appearance or accent.
As for Chris Thomas' comment about Lister not doing everything he can to get Kochanski into bed... Well, she is his mom. Eeeeew.
It makes no sense!! I'm talking about Lister's parentage. Where does his Y chromosome come from?
His only parent is Kochanski! All of his genetic material should be from her!
Lister is his own father. He put his sperm into that invitro tube thing she had.
Unless your referring to the whole time loop thing of Lister being his own father/son. I beleive Lister has some dialogue at the end where he mentions that his existance is a paradox.
BTW there are people who have XXXY chromosones. Maybe Kochanski is one of these?
It is insane nonsense. Naylor must burn for his crimes!!!
Lister has always been trying to get Kochanski into bed from Day One. Doesn't Lister say the paradox of him being his own father protects the future of the human race. Only up until that point when he fulfils his destiny, I'd say.
It's foolish insanity I tell you! Run for your lives!
So Ed, stop beating around the bush, Tell us how you really feel.
IMO 'Foolish insanity' is as good a description for Red Dwarf as possible. They've always played wink, wink, nudge, nudge with reality and if Series VII had been funnier, this would be just another crazy thing they did.
BTW I like Chloe Annette. (Do I smell tar and feathers?) Yes, it was a mistake to call her character Krissie Kochanski. They should have just given her a different name. And sometimes they wrote her a little too much as a Rimmer replacement. (By the book, overly obsessive, etc.) Still she's a good performer who does a funny job playing the character.
I think she over-acts sometimes, like she's trying too hard to justify her spot with "The Boys From The Dwarf".
Well actually she was quite good in that 'Crime Traveller' thing. She just isn't Kochanski. Rob Grant would never have tried to replace C.P.G.. Rob Grant would have made a funny series.
Whoa, just a bit bitter are we?
Just a little bit afraid of revealing our identity are we?
No, I just didn't want to go through the rigamarole of signing up for an account. Sides, Mr. Jefferson, how do I know that's your real name. Your email address leads to nitcentral, which convientantly prevents me from knowing your isp. Nice try, thanks for playing.
Signing up for an account? Who told you that? Nah, just bung in a username (no password necessary). Oh, and edjeholo@aol.com, if you really need to know.
Actually, if you'd bothered to read the message next to the add message box :
"This is a public posting area. If you do not have an account, enter your full name into the "Username" box and leave the "Password" box empty. "
You should know that. How do you know that's my real name? Why would I bother not using my real name? And the reason that my address leads to nitcentral is that I am a moderator here. (Sci-fi Novels, now in 10 flavours ;-))
Anyways, I guess I'll appologize, just to smooth things over. However, I still think you're taking this hatred of series 7 and 8 way to far.
Yeah, but if I wasn't just slightly unhinged, then reality would be too dull for my liking. See you around then (hopefully you'll have a name by then).
Hey, I act slightly insane most of the time too. Reality's too dull(just ask Jake Bullet, Dwayne Dibly, Sebastian and William Doyle). Besides, if I didn't, I'd probably turn to drugs, and I have Red Dwarf tapes to buy! Btw, how do you like my moniker? Bonus points if you guess where it's from.
Image Comics?
Bzzt, sorry, no. Image comics *blech* The beginning of the end :) Sides, I think you're thinking about Wildstorm, owned by Jim Lee
WildStar; created by Al Gordon and Jerry Ordway, first appeared in a four-issue miniseries called WildStar: Sky Zero in 1992, published by Image Comics. :-p
Ooops, you're indeed correct. I had forgotten about him. In any event, I didn't get it from them.
Does it have anything to do with Star Blazers?
You already used your guess. I'll bet you just did a web search for Wildstar, and dug up an SB site. But yes, it does. I needed an alias way back when I started this net thing, and since SB is my favorite cartoon, maybe even my favorite show, I picked the name of the main charactor.
'Frankenstein' in Kochanski's universe was just a kitten, not the pregnant cat we see in The End.
I wonder how many people mistook that thing that Kochanski put the kitten in for a microwave and ended up losing their lunch, or coffee, or whatever they planned to warm up? ;-)
If Non-space is a "void of infinite nothingness" (sounds like TV), then why does it have a gravity, which pulls Kochanski down?
Lister says he married the Gelf because they needed an engine part, but it was actually an oxy/generation unit. (I suppose oxygen could be necesary for an engine, but it sounds more like a life support device than engine part.)
Life-support engine.
Oh, and there are two major problems with the Lister=his own father thing. Firstly, unless they tampered with the embryo-thingy, Lister would have some traits from Kochanski and some from himself. So he would be as much himself as he was. And he wouldn`t get enough traits from that one either. So, he... well, you get the idea. Sorta. Second, Lister relies entirely on this version of events to exist, so, therefore, it was his DESTINY to join the Space Corps, to be put in stasis, etc. Because if that didn`t happen he wouldn`t exist in the first place, so this of course means Spanners could not exist, nor could Lister in the alternative timeline from Timeslides, nor could the one from the ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE FEATURED IN THIS VERY EPISODE! ATTLGMAH!
That said, I like series VII but VIII is still a lot better.
We don't know what happens to Spanners later on... who knows what path he may have gone down?
...unless (assuming we're going on the 'tree' theory of parallel universes here, Paddy, which I think you are) Lister was dropped off as a baby *before* the two worlds diverged.
(I think Red Dwarf more often uses 'a parallel universe is different because it is', which certainly works a lot on the show, but I thought that version was at least worth mentioning.)
That means, for example, that in Lister's world his mother's from an alternate dimension, in Kochanski's world, Lister's father is.
"That means, for example, that in Lister's world his mother's from an alternate dimension, in
Kochanski's world, Lister's father is."
But how did the alternate holographic Lister get conceived?
I saw only one test-tube (or whutever), and it went into Listers reality.
What is the episode title supposed to mean?
"The worm Ouroboros, which biteth its own tail."
The symbol itself, of a snake swallowing its own tail, is well known (Google can quickly find an informative link, although I'm not sure if any of the information is accurate). Its association with an endless cycle mirrors Lister's existance as his own father.
I believe there was also an "Ouroboros" brand of batteries in this episode---a cute name for batteries, since they'll keep going, and going. . .
Good in-universe way to recast Kristine Kochanski.
This version is from a parallel reality. As to why she looks different, in this reality, her father must have married a different woman.