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"Buffy, The Vampire Slayer"... a.k.a. PeeWee's Last Stand....

QuickNits-
Plot oversights:-Hot Topic must make killings(in sales that is) when vampires are in town.
-I have never in my life seen a snake coil like that, well maybe a rubber one.
-What is Dracula not in the public domain or has he died too often.
- Do these kids do any homework?, maybe that's why buffy failing history.
- Speaking of whitch why is Buffy learning where el salavador is on a map, do seniors really take World Geoghraphy in senior year? do prospective Business majors even take social studies at all in senior year.
- Apparently buffy is demoted 3 grades and loses 20 pounds between now and the television series. Beep! what non superficial similaritys do the two properties have in common anyways?

Countinuity:20YOTS (20 year old teenager syndrome)

I think Joss refuses to see the existance of the movie cuz the people who did it changed it. I say:

Well, too bad! It wasn't just your work, it was evreyone on the crew's! Don't expect them to stikc to the original storyline -- they've got their own ideas!

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I belive the movie isnt connected. Why should it be? Its a peice of drivel

But a fun piece of drivel!!!!:)

Major difference between movie and series:in the
series it is said that Buffy burned down the
school gym,this never occured,at least NOT on
screen, in the movie.

Another way of looking at it is BUFFY:THE MOVIE
is in BUFFY UNIVERSE A,BUFFY:THE SERIES is in
BUFFY UNIVERSE B,BUFFY:THE COMICS are BUFFY
UNIVERSE C and so forth.

Yeah okay. So I don't have to pay attention to it? Good!

That's a good way of putting it Scott.

I actually loved the movie(and sometimes I think it's better than the show.*gasp shock HORROR)

so in the end, in the gym. what caused Buffy to snap out of the mind control thing? it happened when the music stopped and she said something about silence being the key... but when he mind controled her the first time. it was in a graveyard and there was almost no sound at all there. so what gives?

Don

I just watched this movie for the first time in 10 years as it is hard to get in the UK. The first time I saw it I was 8 years old. I loved it but I'm 18 now and I well it wasn't what I remembered. Perhaps that it is a 8 year old romp minus the words dyke and ••••! It was still good but it's just sooooooooooo camp. Camper than Christmas. The vampires are just laughable, Buffy's Mom... was just not Joyce and her Father in the fetching golf suit...
On the plus sides I loved Kristy Swanson's Buffy. Sometimes I forgot it wasn't Sarah Michelle Gellar. She was perfect in the role and Merrick's death scene was moving. I wish they mentioned Merrick more in the beginning of the series and Pike. I do believe Pike returned in a Buffy book. Could anyone tell me what happened coz Pike was Buffy's REAL first love not Angel. AND he knew she was the slayer. And may I just say that I do not believe that Buffy has not had sex before Angel judging by the slutiness at the start of the movie. Over cars indeed!

Well..in the episode "Lie To Me" there's a reference to her old school and a friend of her's from there is featured in this episode.

Yeah but the film isn't connected to the series. The ideas are though. Buffy burnt down the gym in the original script to this movie. It was the company who decided to turn Joss' vision into the campness which is the film. I believe there is a comic book called THE ORIGIN that connects the "real" story with the series.

How do you know the film isn't connected to the series? What are you basing this on?

The film is and it isn't connected to the series. It's probably best described that the series is connected to the movie, if the movie had been done the way Joss Whedon wanted it done.

You can get part of the story about the whole mess from this Onion interview with Joss.

Actually Pike is going to make an appearence in the show, he's going to appear in a wheelchair with a flashing light.

Buffy hits Merrick and he slides back. If she hit him that hard wouldn't she have done serious damage to his face? Also since she hit him in the face I would expect his head to slam down into the bench rather than slide him back.

Pike gives Buffy his leather jacket. While this might give her some protection, I think it would tend to restrict her movements more than it would help.

Lothos is about to chop down on Buffy, she stabs him and he stops swinging the sword. Why? (I've seen this sort of nit in a number of TV shows & movies.)

What exactly was Lothos' interest in the Slayer? (I get the feeling that an explanation was either unfilmed or left on the cutting room floor.)

At the end Pike asks if he was responsible for that (indicating, I assume, all the dead vamps in the gym we saw earlier) & Buffy says no she was. Excuse me? The vamps didn't enter the gym until after she left and we saw a bunch of them staked before she came back.

Differences between Movie & TV:
No comma between Buffy & The in the movie.
Vampires don't dust.
Vampires look different.
Headlights seemed to bother one vamp.
Most of main human characters come off like Cordelia.
Don't remember TV Buffy ever having cramps to let her know vamps are around.
Movie seems to imply that The Slayer & her Watcher are reborn over & over again, rather than a succession of Slayers & an organization of Watchers.
Buffy not a virgin. (At the beginning of the show anyway.)
Buffy's mom way different.

Pike's appeared multiple times in the comic book (he's in the current arc running), and they're planning a series set between LA and Sunnydale. Lets hope it happens.

Ah, but the movie took place in Buffy's Senior year, while she lost her virginity to Angel her junior year. It's the orgin story of Buffy except when it's not.

In the movie when he first introduces himself to
Buffy Merrick mentions something about the timing of her period being what enables her to "sense"
vampires which leads to her crack about cramps.
This is why there are no male slayers.

Another difference between the movie and the
series is that Buffy in the movie can at least drive a motorcycle.

Also the calling scene is,if I remember correctly,actually done inside the gym after cheerleading practice,so in the movie universe Angel wouldn't have been able to see Buffy being called.

btw:It's probably just me,but I think it would have been interesting if in the series they could have done an ep.where Sarah Michelle Gellar's Buffy could have met Kristy Swanson's Buffy.
*SIGH* Too late now!

She could have played an older Buffy, from the future. Or she could have appeared in Angel's Series Finale ;)

I figured out the plot holes in this film and the series. The series is told from the Watcher's point of view. The Movie was told from Pike's point of view.

This explains the following:

1. Buffy's Age: Pike was under the mistaken impression that Buffy was a senior. That would make her eighteen, an important misconception for the clearly 21 and above Pike.

2. Buffy's Parents: You know, the shallow stereotypes? Pike never met them and just guested what they were like.

3. The Immortal Watcher: Pike could have confused the Watcher with the Watchers. Again, Buffy was never good with explaining things.

4. The Gym: Pike probably just made up that whole story about him killing every vampire in the gym. Buffy just ordered him to get everyone out and torched the place.

5. The Motorcycle: Pike and Buffy never got toghether. Pike was mad for her, Buffy could care less. She moved away.