Current No-no's

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: The Son, the Wind and the Reign: Discussions: Current No-no's
By Machiko Jenkins (Mjenkins) on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 7:41 pm:

There are many things that it seems that is against Christian theology, but I'm wondering how they work in SWR universe.

First one that comes to mind: Suicide

If Jeff decides he can't stand his life anymore, and he wants to hang himself, would the Guardians stop him, or would they let him go?


By chief on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 11:25 am:

Machiko!

I think it would depend on the individual and the circumstance.

Under some circumstances, the Wind might stop the individual. Under others, the Wind might kill him before he had a chance.

Of course, fundamentally the world has changed. Toil has been removed from the world. Divorce is unlikely. There is a focus on family relationship and the expectation that parents will parent and will love their children. In addition, physical maladies have been removed so the problems with chemical imbalances of the brain are non-existent. So, a lot of the drivers for suicide have been alleviated.

But, assuming an individual is absolutely committed to killing himself or herself, my sense is that the Wind might interpret this as a desire to escape the authority of the Wind and in that case the Wind might view it as rebellion.


By MarkN on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 1:55 am:

Phil, I wanna live in your world! I'm tired of this one! Except your world would have to of course also include Star Trek (but not Enterprise! Blecch!)! ;)


By chief on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 5:53 pm:

Mark!

I'm pretty fond of the Reign as well. ;-)


By MarkN (Markn) on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 9:39 pm:

Not to toot your own horn of course, right, Phil? ;)


By Machiko Jenkins (Mjenkins) on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 2:22 pm:

Under some circumstances, the Wind might stop the individual. Under others, the Wind might kill him before he had a chance.

My mind is having sooo much trouble wrapping around this. I mean, I understand the stopping part, but...isn't killing them to keep them from killing themselves a waste of energy and time? The end result would still be the same!

"I hate this life/the Wind/etc, and I am going to kill myself."

"No you won't, I'll kill you for you!"

???

Oh yeah, and I decided I definitely wouldn't survive past the Wind's first day of bloodshed. Not that it's relevant to the discussion, but...ya know.


By chief on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 2:14 pm:

Machiko!

This is definitely different from anything we experience today because today all our authority structures arise from beings with the same capabilities as our own. The Reign is completely different because you have a set of beings that are "wholly other". They are so different from us that when we try to map our motivations on them, it doesn't work. Eli Ton tries to relate this to the president. Rachel Friedman tries to relate this to her son.

My sense is that if the Wind viewed a given person's desire for suicide as an opposition to Their rule and if They determine that a person is fully committed to said rebellion and if the One gives the go ahead then They would dispatch the person to the "ultimate prison" simply to keep that person from continuing to affect the lives of those around him or her.

As to whether or not you would survive the first day of bloodshed, I think you might surprise yourself. I don't have any sense that you wouldn't recognize power when you saw it and give it its proper respect. Or...would you really pick up the sign and march around the judicial center demanding your rights? Because...that would be suicide. ;-)


By Phil Farrand (Pfarrand) on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 8:03 am:

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By Phil Farrand (Pfarrand) on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 4:27 pm:

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By Lisa on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 7:16 am:

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