• The Apple Part 2 August 15 - 5:02 am

Never realized until recently what a bad episode this really is, despite being a fan favourite. What's with that ending? Nobody seems to care in the least that Kirk and Co. destroyed their god, despite the fact that they had no problems with it. Kirk plays god, and then laughs with the natives about their newfound ability to enjoy sexuality (and why are they laughing? They don't understand!).

Isn't it odd that Spock would defend the system of this planet, and yet advocate getting rid of Landru in "Return of the Archons"?

One of the things that really bothers me about this episode, that I never really noticed before, is that we never found out who built Vaal and why. I realize there is only so much time in an episode, but at least in "Return of the Archons" we find out a little bit about what Landru was all about.

In this episode, these people have lived for thousands of years. They didn't age or die. Wouldn't someone there remember what was before Vaal?

It's too bad we'll never know.

I think it's pretty remarkable the "Feeders of Vaal" could run around half naked with agressive Sun Flowers spitting poison darts and exploding rocks all over the place without a high mortality rate. Seems to me they'd have to breed like bunnies to keep up the population.

(POOF!) Oops, there goes Muffy!

The biggest problem I have with the episode is Scott sitting up there in the Enterprise, wasting HOURS of time that could have been used to evacuate most of the crew to the surface by shuttlecraft. Maybe the ship would have been lost, maybe not. But at least some of the crew would have survived to wait out rescue by Star Fleet instead of them all burning up. Not to mention, Scott could have sent a shuttle down to pick up the landing party when the transporters failed.

Blecch! A weak episode, notably mainly for the (at the time) daring costumes and sexual banter, as timid as it was.

In addition, the producers were psychic... All the Vaal'ian men wear Clinton style hairdos!

Paradise... perfect health... cared for by a god... they seem to be happy.

But what happens? Kirk comes. "OH NO! They can't have sex"... let's destroy their God!

Vaal tries to destroy the Enterprise.
Kirk starves Vaal.
The Enterprise destroys Vaal.

I have no problem with that.

In "The Omega Glory", Kirk says that a captain's most solemn vow is that he will give his life, his entire crew, and even his ship to prevent a violation of the Prime Directive. I guess that doesn't count in the instance that the nasty computer doesn't allow any hanky-panky.

Even the way you put it that is true.
I could see Kirk sacrificing the Enterprise and her crew to preserve a vibrant and developing culture.
I could see him leaving Vaal alone and posting quarintine buoys
As you say though the combination of a stagnant culture and a threat to his ship and crew was enough to seal Vaal's fate.

I don't agree with that. The Prime Directive is the Prime Directive! Starfleet General Order Number One! Kirk violated the Prime Directive so many times in the original Star Trek to save his crew and yet whenever another Starfleet captain violates it, he acts shocked.

Yet another reference to money in the Federation (further refuting the contention in ST—First Contact that the Federation doesn't use money):

Kirk asks Spock: "What are you trying to do? Get yourself killed!? Do you know how much StarFleet has invested in you?"

And Spock starts saying "122,200..." before he is cut off by Kirk.

This episode picks up several classic recurring themes in Trek:

1. Got a computer running things? Kirk can take it out. (Landru, M-5, Mudd's planet, etc.)

2. Man needs to make his own way. It is not our way to live in a gilded cage; to be men we must strive and struggle and accomplish for ourselves. - - This was one of the main messages of Trek, whether you agree with it or not.

3. Two of our main characters had a profound philosophical disagreement over what was the right thing to do - and both were right and both were wrong. (none of that 'oh gosh Captain you were right I feel so silly' we've had ever since TNG started)

GUEST STAR PATROL (My evilness knows no bounds)

David Soul (Makora) was Hutch on "Starsky and Hutch".

In The Star Trek Concordance, the entry for Mallory (the security guard killed by the exploding rock) says that his father helped Kirk get into the academy. However, when you watch the episode, it doesn't seem like Kirk is talking about Mallory when he makes this statement. While Kirk is lamenting the death of Mallory, he refers to security men who were killed earlier in the episode, saying, "First Hendorff, then Kaplan . . . I knew Kaplan's family . . . and now Mallory."
Then Spock says something to him and Kirk says "His father helped me get into the academy," apparently referring to Mallory. However, since he just mentioned that he knew Kaplan's family, it would seem more likely that it is Kaplan he is referring back to and that it was Kaplan's father, not Mallory's, who helped Kirk get into Starfleet Academy.

Guest Star patrol, part 2:

David Soul was also on "Here Come the Brides."

Facial hair alert: Spock needs a shave. He has five o'clock shadow.

Maybe he was starting to grow the beard for his part in "Mirror, Mirror" which was filmed right after this episode.

Phil gives the stardate for this epsidoe as 3715.0 - 3715.6. However, the actual stardate for the episode is 3715.3 - 3715.6.

After the plant fires and the redshirt is pronounced dead, Kirk looks at the plant and a close-up shows that some of the 'darts' are still there. First does this mean that the plant can still fire? Second, some nitpicker with a freeze frame on his VCR could count the 'darts' in the redshirt's chest, then count the number of missing darts to see if they match. (Wouldn't you hate to be a bee on this planet?)

A man has just been killed by a flower, then Kirk casually plucks a flower.

Once again, Spock takes readings with his tricorder, with the screen blank and facing away from him. What is the point of that screen if it doesn't display information and isn't mounted where the user can see it?

Spock whispers to Kirk that they are being watched, then the yeoman repeats that they are being watched. Good job, if the guy didn't hear Spock then he is bound to hear her.

As Spock handles the explosive rock, it sounds like Styrofoam. Also Spock mentions quartz and hornblende as part of its makeup. While quartz and hornblende are not especially heavy the rock seems unusually light. Maybe it has lots of hydrogen for explosiveness?

After Spock is shot with 'darts,' he sits up with no sign of the 'darts' in his chest.

I realize that McCoy was under spore influence at the time, but it is interesting to compare his "Who wants to fight paradise" attitude in This Side Of Paradise with his attitude in this episode.

Not necessarily a nit, but Chekov refers to Martha as "Marta" and she calls him "Pav", which I assume is short for Pavel.

Earlier it is said that the ship had 10 hours and Scotty would try to escape in 8 hours, then it is said that Scott only has 45 minutes. (I guess Scotty forgot that he wasn't repairing something and multiplied his estimate by 4 or something.)

It looked like the lightning bolt struck the rock instead of striking Spock, but maybe that's why he survived instead of being vaporized like the redshirt earlier.

When we see the Enterprise firing phasers the beams seem wider apart at the bottom of the screen than when we see the beams hitting Vaal.

There didn't seem to be a reason given for why Vaal attacked the Enterprise in the first place. Oddly enough, if Vaal hadn't attacked the ship then there wouldn't be an excuse to 'free' these people.

Shortly after the landing party beams down, Kirk says there's a village seventeen kilometers away, and they start off in that direction. They're going to walk seventeen kilometers?! I guess Kirk feels that his crew needs some exercise. Why did they beam down so far away from the village? Perhaps they wanted to see this part of the forest, and perhaps they didn't want to beam down in the middle of the village, but at least they could call the ship and have themselves beamed closer.

Boy it sure was lucky of Spock to have tossed that rock far away instead of dropping it at his feet huh?

Either Mallory has found a different village to the one that Kirk was referring, or he (and the rest of the crew) can cover seventeen kilometers in no time flat.

You gotta feel bad for Akuta. There are strange aliens on his planet, poking around, making noise, causing explosions and so forth. All he does is watch them stealthily, and for his trouble he gets a punch in the face from Kirk. Then Kirk says "I won't hurt you". Hilarious.

Is there any good reason why Vaal is spending energy pulling on the Enterprise with a tractor beam (one presumes he intends to destroy it and the crew). Does it just have a mean streak?

I don't understand why Spock comes to the conclusion right away that Vaal is a machine, not a life form. It eats fruit, for one thing. Considering the life forms they have met in the past that have harnessed power, such as Trelane and Apollo, I don't see why Vaal would have to be a machine (even if it did turn out that it was).

Boy, Chekov is really smitten with the yeoman. He doesn't seem to care about the members of the landing party that have died, and he doesn't seem to care that the Enterprise might plunge to its destruction.

Kirk and Spock debate whether or not interfering with Vaal would be a violation of the prime directive. Kirk states in "The Return of the Archons" that the directive applies to developing cultures, not stagnant ones. If this is the case then there really is no cause for debate.

>I don't understand why Spock comes to the conclusion right away that Vaal is a machine, not a life form. It eats fruit, for one thing. Considering the life forms they have met in the past that have harnessed power, such as Trelane and Apollo, I don't see why Vaal would have to be a machine (even if it did turn out that it was).
Simple - the thing was carved in stone. They were worshipping a graven image.

The title of the episode apparently is meant to refer to Man's expulsion from Eden. However, in the Book of Genesis, the serpent tempts Eve to eat the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge (of Good and Evil), not an apple.

I've always wondered why everyone seems to just assume that the fruit in question was an apple. If that were truly the case, you'd think that no one would want to cultivate them, and ol' Johnny Appleseed would have been run out of town on a rail.

I'd officially like to start the rumor that Vaal is alive and well, and running things the way they were before Kirk turned up.
The reason; the Enterprise's phasers bombard Vaal's forcefield, causing explosions to erupt from the serpent's maw, and his eyes to stop glowing. However, the forcefield remains up and fades away, only when the beams are stopped by Kirk's order, instead of breaking through the forcefield and blasting apart the stone image of Vaal. Thus, Vaal, who's a computer that would have a self-preservation program built into it, tricked Kirk into stopping his attack, which Vaal realized had the power to destroy him. Vaal simply turned off all his systems, set a snooze button, and plans to 'wake up' after the Enterprise is gone.
Long live Vaal!

There was actually a sequel to this episode in the DC comic. I forget what happened, exactly, but in the end Kirk conceded he'd been wrong to destroy Vaal.

That was Star Trek's #43, 44 & 45, (1st series).

I didn't read it, but according to the summary Spock plugs himself into Vaal to get Vaal back up and running.

Two points: Watch Spock's fall after he is hit by the darts. For someone who's been knocked out he sure is being careful about how he lands.

Also, doesn't Kirk seem a bit heartless to Scotty?
I mean the man has less than an hour to live and Kirk goes and fires him. Way to let a man die with dignity Jim.

'Course, Scotty continues to work... Not that he has any real choice.

Spock (or rather, Mr. Nimoy) may just have a heavy beard (Pres. Nixon had to shave three times a day.)If "Mirror, Mirror was filmed right after this, there would not be enough time to grow the beard. So, I submit, the beard in "Mirror, Mirror" is a fake. Incidentally, Shatner forgot to grow his pointy sideburns for "Generations", so the makeup man snipped a fake mustache in two and used each half on one side of his head.

They should've called this episode "ReHASH of the Archons"....The similaries between this episode & "Return of the Archons" are too close to be accidental.

I heard that there are only seven basic plots in all storytelling. At some point, from episode eight on, using that logic, you are repeating yourself.(A lot of messages must have been deleted-the flow makes no sense.)

In this episode, there's a Lt. Kaplan...a salute to Sol Kaplan, maybe?

I REALLY love Yeoman Landon in this episode, not only is she beautiful, but she can kick some Gamma Trianguli butt too!

GREAT LINE: "Would you mind being careful where you throw your rocks, Spock?" Kirk after Spock throws away a rock segment then it explodes.

I made a mistake in "Mirror, Mirror"....these women have their navels exposed...I though Uhura was the first one.

Once again, the red alert light stays on after it is activated...it's supposed to flash on and off.

McCoy almost trips over his tricorder strap when he and the others leave the hut.

The sickly love music from "Shore Leave" returns in this episode.
The sparkly green effect when Vaal is being destroyed is simular to the effect used for the Companion in "Metamorphosis"

I would've loved to seen Rand in this episode and have her kick some Gamma Trianguli butt.

BAD LINE: There's no trick to growing fruit on trees" Kirk...after Vaal is destroyed.

RUMINATION: This episode establishes the fact that Scott knows the Enterprise better than the ones who built it.

The footage of the storm comes from "Who Mourns For Adonais?"

Bad moments:
A. Kirk spends WAY too much time mourning the loss of his men in this episode.
B. Kirk chides Spock for pushing him out of the way of the poisonous darts...hey, Kirk...that's his job!
C. Nothing happens to Kirk...Spock gets the brunt of Vaal's wrath.
D. The tree branches growing out of the ground look 100% plastic.

The footage of the Enterprise firing its phasors comes from "Who Mourns For Adonais?"

In the 60's, there was a McCarthy-like saying:
"Better dead than red"....

On the surface, it looks like the creators had a little fun with that saying for the script!

Almost half the "red shirts" get killed in this episode!

BAD WRITING NIT:

At one point Scotty says that he's transferring all the available power (except life support) into the impulse drive to break free of the tractor beam....after it fails, Kirk asks Scott if he has any phasor power...Scotty says, "Aye".....Wait a minute!!!!! I thought Scotty said he had just transferred all available power except the life-support into the impulse drive! I guess he didn't....otherwise there'd be no power for the phasors.....and besides that...Kirk just fired Scott after the pull-away failed....so how can Scotty fire the phasors if he was canned?

GREAT MOMENT: Yeoman Landon's "Field Goal Kick" and karate movements on Gamma Trianguli...This gal should've been Kirk's woman!

Sort of an anti-nit on "Bad moments" Letter "B".....after Kirk chides Spock for pushing him out of the way he softly says, "Thank you"

One last thought on Yeoman Landon's kicking....with a kick like that, she should be on the Rockettes!

Gamma Trianguli VI certainly looks alot loke Vulcan from "Amok Time", don't it?

When Scott hails about the drain on the antimatter pods, Kirk doesn't seem really concerned about it....what happened to Kirk's obsession with the Enterprise like we saw in "The Naked Time"?

Another nit on the Enterprise phasor sfx....when they come out of the phasor banks, the beams come straight down, however, when they hit Vaal, they are running parallel to each other....one beam right above the other..the only way that could be done is if the Enterprise was flying sideways!

Everyone in the village says, "Welcome" except one person...he/she says, "Welcome to Vaal"

Does Vaal have photon torpedoes somewhere? When Spock hits the force field, the SFX is the photon torpedo SFX.

My mistake...I meant....
Gamma Trianguli VI certainly looks alot LIKE Vulcan from "Amok Time", don't it?

Dang 'scpipts', anyway.

RUMINATION: This episode points out the fact that the original Enterprise has the capibility of saucer separation...now THAT I would've LOVE to have seen!

Missing personel: Uhura & Sulu...Kyle is at the helm this time around...he's usually in the transporter room.

With this planet being called "Gamma Trianguli VI", does that mean this planet is located in the Gamma Quadrant? If so, that opens a door for more nits.

No, it means the planet's star is "Gamma Trianguli". It's the third brightest star in the Trianguli cluster (at least according to 20th century usage).

Why does Kaplan disappear when hit by a lightning bolt? After he is shot, he turns blue and disappears, as if hit by a phaser, and is replaced by a smoldering burn mark on the ground. Lightning does not do this. It burns and electrifies what it hits. It doesn’t make it vanish. Many people have been hit by lightning; none of them were vaporized.

Perhaps the lightning on Gamma Trianguli VI is more powerful than Earth's lightning. That's all I can figure.

Since Vaal uses it as a weapon, I think it's more than just electricity.

It sure looks like electricity to me! And it doesn't matter how powerful it is. Even if it did vaporize something, it would only vaporize/burn the object at the point of impact. It couldn't vaporize the entire body, they way a phaser or disruptor does, and it definitely does not look like a phaser or disruptor blast.

Why not this be the way things are? Vaal uses phaser technology in his lightning blasts but hides them as lightning blasts to keep the poor hapless souls scared that the gods are angry. That makes perfectly logical sense.

The photo section of the book "The Making of Star Trek" contained a detailed photo serial of the opticals of Kaplan's death, but mislabeled it as a man getting hit by a phaser.

Kaplan was played by Dick Dial, one of William Shatner's main stuntmen.

Was that explanation given in the episode, Lolar?

Well, technically Luigi the phasers & disruptors shouldn't vaporise a whole person either, but should only burn at point of impact, but we accept that they do.

Yeesh! 2 buts in a row. Bad English.

We can chalk that up to the premise governing a sci-fictional weapons whose workings we don't know. We do know how lightning works.

This episode demonstrates a recurring nit is TOS.

They do not know about Vaal when they beam down, yet somehow land within walking distance of the only place on the planet from where the infernal machine can be shut off.

Another example of this nit is That Which Survives.

(Presumably, the transporter read the script.)

Luigi, in response to your may 28 question. No I do not recall that explanation being made within the episode, but it does make an odd kind of sense. If I was designing an advanced computer to control a primitive population I would want to hide the advanced technology under as much mythological stuff as I possibly could. I mean the awe factor of someone transgressing against the rules then glowing and fading is one thing but you zap them with a very impressive bolt of lightning thunder and blammo you kick the awe factor up a few notches. Sorry it took me so long to reply. I've just been skimming the posts for the past few and must have missed your query.

Don't worry, Lolar, I discovered the site around the time of Author, Author(VOY), but sometimes I still respond to a something that I disagree with that was posted as much as two or three YEARS AGO!

As for your explanation, I think it's a good one, but as I say with many "possible explanations," including ones that I myself thought of, I make a note that they should've established it in the episode.

Ok, I try not to ignore people I'm talking (er typing?) to. But the schedule I'm on makes keeping all the plates spinning rather fun. Oh speaking of plates I have the second loewen book on order so I should be getting it this week. Looking foreward to it.

Sorry I am looking forward to getting the book, but I am looking out the side of my place more to portaft. :-)

In a way, Lies Across America is somewhat easier to read than Lies My Teacher Told Me, (particularly if you read in short spurts, as I often do when I'm waiting for/taking the bus), because each monument or marker gets a limited number of pages.

There are a lot of really eye-opening and shocking revelations in the book (the allegiance of the sculptor of Mount Rushmore, the fact that one of our Presidents was gay, etc.). I'm sure you'll like it, Lolar.

We fancied the walk
So why else beam down 17 km (over 10 miles) from the only (only???) inhabited area on the whole planet. Well, I suppose if not we'd never have had time to be shot at by flowers, struck by lightening, blasted by explosive styrofoam or followed by the natives....

Spock... are you looking for a transfer... to the Red Shirt department?
Or is this an attempt to get all your injuries for the whole series over in one episode? Spock gets shot by a flower, injected by McCoy, blasted by a force field and struck by lightening. Wouldn't like to pay his insurance premium!

Of course, Computers never heard of sex
Got to admit the that scene is cute. In fact I nominate "I believe it is safe... hmmm... safe to assume that the necessary... instruction... would be given" as an all time great line. But where does McCoy get the idea that a computer can't convey information about sex? He obviously never heard of the internet!!

You mean that Lloyd Webber stuff about Joseph in the database, Spock?
Genesis has 50 chapters, covering loads of stories. Yet when Spock refers to "the story of Genesis" Kirk knows just which bit he means. Convenient, eh?

we'll leave Chekov and Landon around for a few days... the Vaalians will get the idea Or a qualified biologist or two - after all, we left a sociologist on the planet of the Archons. But maybe not the science officer, cos he's coy.

Vaal.... how do you say that?
Kirk and Akuta pronounce it Vawl. Evryone else says Val. Wouldn't you assume Akuta would be right?

Landon... meet Koloth
What a pity they didn't take Martha on the party to K7. In fact, we seldom see the girls get in any good fighting. Go girl!

Hey, I'm a trend setter!

Yep!
Sorry, Luigi, I nicked your style. Well, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :-) (and I had to do something to break up my huge list of nits about "Amok time")

Enjoy the compliment!

Ya know, between the lovely compliments by Sophie Hawksworth and Miko Iko on the Masterpiece Society(TNG) Board, and this, my head's going to get so big, I wont' be able to remain upright! (Who says this sight has been dumbed down to a series of flame wars?)

And besides, Kathy, you may have nicked it from me, but I nicked it from GQ Magazine's annual "Dubious Achievements of the Year" feature. So who am I to claim originality?

Glad you don't mind, Luigi. Only I'm not as good at it as you :-)

You flatter me, Kathy!

Spock's name must have an alternate meaning for the people of this planet...for when Spock says his name, everyone laughs.

I can't help but wonder what "Spock" means on this planet.

Possibly something Vaal has forbidden?? [Well, that's what I think of when I think "Spock ;-) ]

Naughty, naught, Reverend!

Oops, left off the "Y" in the second "naughty".

Just a freudian slip eh Merat?

For people who have never kissed, the people watching Chekov & Landon sure catch on quickly don't they?

Everytime I watch this episode, I think about Suntan Malibu Barbie & Suntan Malibu Ken...that's who these people remind me of.

Vaal's computer is real interesting...it digests food to get more power. How is that possible?
Is the food for the hamsters that run on the treadmills that's hooked up to a generator of some kind? "Run, Muffy! Run! Vaal must live!"

A vegetarian computer. What'll they think of next?

I always thought they were feeding Vaal those explosive rocks. Someone with the DVD get close enough to see what's in those baskets?

The Blish novelization indicates that it's the explosive rocks.

Yeah, that's about the only thing that makes sense.

Man, the costuming is bad in this ep. Jean Harlow hair and pastel neo-Native American warpaint, ick. (And I do believe I saw some shells in there, too.)
It's a shame that such an intriguing moral argument had to be dressed up with such awful visuals. (And I haven't even mentioned the papier-mache snake's-head computer yet! If you're gonna lay on the heavyhanded symbolism, folks, the least you could do would be to make it convincing, hmmmm?)

Oh, and after reading some earlier posts I have to agree with the inherent idiocy of the natives coexisting peacefully with the Fauna From Hell for all those thousands of years.
OK, it's barely possible there's an antidote for the flowers etc. we didn't hear about...but I'm sorry, at some point somebody's gonna forget to look where they leap and FLOOM! Rock 1, Native 0.
Even as a little kid I had some serious problems with this planet's credibility. (I eventually decided some SFX designer got reallyreally bored that week. Still makes sense enough.)

Besides that, who'd want to worship a deity that sleeps anyway? What if you needed him/her at the moment of his/her "nappy time"? I guess you're outta luck, Akuta.

With all the casualties Kirk suffered here, maybe this episode SHOULD HAVE been called, "Die! Redshirt, Die!"

"Obsession" sets the record, though.

Hey, Todd....Does Mr. Leslie count amongst those who died? :P

Yeah . . . remember, he was Leslie's twin brother!

Mr. Leslie is at the navagator's position in this episode...wearing YELLOW! (With all the red shirts dying in this episode, I can see why!)

DELETED LINE: "You go, girl!" Kirk to Landon after that dazzling display of karate & kicking.

After watching the DVD more closely, the people of Vaal did feed Vaal with the explosive rocks.

FUNNY THOUGHT: The reason why Landon was booted off the Enterprise is because Kirk didn't want anyone who fights as good or better than he does!
Also, she was smooching Chekov....ALL single, young, beautiful Yeomans are supposed the kiss the Captain only!

I am frequently surprised how the nit-pickers here come up with things that I never even considered, despite the many, many, MANY viewings of the episodes I've had.
Explosive rocks down Vaal's throat; amazing point there, John!

After Spock is hit with the poison darts, Kirk recalls his people to beam up, and he contacts the ship. The scene cuts to Scott, then back to the landing party, who undergo the transporter effect but remain planetside.
But check out the location of everyone; they've totally switched position! Chekov and Yeoman Landry switch places, Hendorf (?) the security guard is suddenly standing over the prone Spock, and McCoy has stepped away from his patient (Spock), to stand about 8 feet to the left instead. Why did everyone switch places?

Because Kirk suddenly turned to everyone as Spock was dematerialising and cried "Hey - cheer up, he's gonna be just fine! I know what'll make us feel better: let's all square dance!"

The Turbolifts must all be full again...Kirk climbs up one of those red ladders again at the end of the episode.

Maybe the yeomans' cabin have back entrances that can only be reached by ladder? ;-)

At one point in the episode, Kirk orders the landing party into "formation L" and they all walk into the brush...in single file. It just strikes me as odd. There's no reason why that couldn't be formation L, I suppose, but it does make one wonder what formations A-K are, if L means "get in a straight line." I would expect formations to become progressively more complex, but there doesn't seem to be room beyond "single file" for eleven formations worth of simplifications. (This is the first time I've actually seen this episode, and, actually, I was expecting this formation to be in the SHAPE of an "L," which is why I paid so much attention to this small deatil.) The other possibility is that I misheard the dialogue, but I was watching with the closed-captioning on, to compensate for a particularly noisy air-conditioner, and the captioning definitely said "formation L."

I always figured it was a lower-case L.

ANOTHER GREAT MOMENT: Yeoman Landon flips one of the men of Gamma Trianguli VI. DANG, she's good!

When Spock is stung by the poison plant thorns, the crew FINALLY decide to beam up. McCoy is hovering over Spock. (On Kirk's left) HOWEVER...during the dematerialization, McCoy is standing nowhere near Spock. McCoy is now on Kirk's right.

The fact that people were standing in differant places was already pointed out by Will on January 13, 2003.

OOPS! I missed seeing that posting!

I figured you did

I think that Vaal must have been in control of the weather in my area last Saturday. At about 4:30 P.M. there wasn't a cloud in the sky, gorgeous day. By the time 5 rolled around, you couldn't see the sky for all the clouds and there was a thunderstorm monsoon.

Keith Alan Morgan asked on Friday, April 16, 1999:

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Why are Starfleet people ashamed to talk about sex?

They knew that somehow, prudish 20th Century humans would intercept their log records, and were being courteous to them

Thanks Felix.

John A. Lang said on Tuesday, February 13, 2001:

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BAD LINE: There's no trick to growing fruit on trees" Kirk...after Vaal is destroyed.

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Wikipedia Small Population Size Species with a small population size are subject to a higher chance of extinction because they are more vulnerable to genetic drift, resulting in stochastic variation in their gene pool, their demography and their environment.

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Vaal is using X-drive to store the systems restore!

Felix, what was your first trek and how old were ya

yes, I know the board is there

The first Treks I remember, but probably not the first I've seen are The Devil In The Dark and The Man Trap (aka the salt vampire). I must have seen those 5 to 7 years after they were shown in the USA. I was 14 or 15 then... (and don't get me wrong, I luv' these old Treks, that's is why I like bashing them...)

Felix, g4 is gonna show Tos uncut with the fan votes on the best Treks etc April 10