Once again, problems with stardates. The earlier episode "The Conscience of the King" began on Stardate 2817.6. According to Spock, the arrival at the Benecia colony was made on stardate 2825. Yet "The Galileo Seven" begins on 2821.5 which puts it smack dab in the middle of the action of "Conscience"!
When the Columbus is launched, look closely at the registry number. It`s NCC-1701/7, the same registry as the Galileo.
When Kirk orders them to go to the planet needing medical supplies (before they find the shuttle) he says they should go at "space normal speed". I have never heard this term in any other episodes.
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John Crawford (Ferris) was on "Batman". He played the Bookworm's head thug, Printer's Devil in "The Bookworm Turns/Gotham City Burns".
Watch Commissioner Ferris during the teaser of this episode. The guy is smiling and smirking to himself as the Galileo becomes lost. It looks like he's happy about it!
This title seems to have a double meaning. There are seven people on the shuttle, and the shuttle's serial number is NCC 1701-7.
On page 63 of the Classic Guide, Phil questioned why McCoy and Scotty are on board the shuttle. What if the Quasarlike formation injured someone on the shuttle, or caused some damage that only an engineer could fix? True, it's ridiculous to send the Chief Medical Officer and the Chief Engineer when lesser ranking individuals would have done just as well, but they're there in case something goes wrong.
Why would a Galactic High Commissioner need to accompany the medical supplies? If he were a doctor then it would make sense, but nothing states that he is anything more than just a politician.
They have to take these supplies to Makus III, but then the supplies will be transferred to another ship to take them to the New Paris colony. Why not just take the supplies to New Paris and avoid the middle men?
Despite the medical urgency, Kirk sends out the shuttle, because he has a mandate to study quasar and quasarlike phenomenon. However, this phenomenon is named and is not referred to as a recent discovery, so why hasn't another ship been sent to study this? Also Kirk must have picked up the medical supplies somewhere and is taking them to another world, so presumably other ships must pass this way, so why didn't they study it? If studying quasars and quasarlike phenomenon is so important why isn't there a steady rotation of science ships at this phenomenon?
Why not send a probe to study Murasaki 312 before sending a shuttle?
If ionization has affected the ship's sensors then how does Uhura know that Taurus II has a class M planet?
Of course the designation has problems. Does Taurus II refer to the second planet of a star named Taurus? Personally, I find it hard to believe that astronomers would name a star after a constellation, since it would lead to much confusion. Also in the DS9 episode Call To Arms the Federation attacks a Cardassian base at Taurus III, but Uhura said there was only one M class planet in the star system and we never heard of the Cardassians in Classic Trek. Taurus II could be an odd way of using Flamsteed's method of listing stars and actually refers to 2 Tauri? (And Taurus III would be 3 Tauri.)
What tactical advantage would it be to throw your shield at someone you are trying to kill, like one of the creature's does in this episode? Does the creature think it is Captain America? Also instead of Spock and the others trying to use the shield as a shield, they just look at it and move along.
In some shots Murasaki 312 seems to move, but in others it appears static.
Just before firing to scare the creatures, Spock says to take aim at 2:00 and 10:00. Why would a Vulcan use a vague direction derived from Earth clocks instead of something more precise like degrees of a circle? A Vulcan clock may have 10, or 20, hours on it, so that to a Vulcan 2:00 & 10:00 might be different directions than to a Human. (Degrees of a circle could also pose a problem since another culture might choose a number higher or lower than 360, but since 360 can be evenly divided by every number between 1 and 10, except for 7, chances are good that alien circles might be 360 degrees also.)
On page 64 of the Classic Guide, Phil wondered about inconsistency in the size of the creatures noting that one guy lists them as ten to twelve feet high, but the one who kills Gaetano is only about eight feet tall. Well, some creatures give their young a chance to kill prey first. If the baby fails, then the adult kills it.
Spock's strength in this episode is interesting. He picks up the spear with no trouble, despite the shaft being a small log and the head the size of a large rock. Later while carrying Gaetano's body, Spock picks up and throws one of these spears, and yet he has trouble pushing a boulder off his leg.
Inside the shuttle the windows are open, then an outside shot shows the windows closed, then Spock says seal the windows, then when Spock asks about battery power, the windows are open. Do shuttlecraft have some kind of one-way glass and one-way shades?
Couldn't they dump those chairs to save on weight? When the shuttle lifts off the yeoman is squatting on the floor, not even using her chair.
The third chair on the right of the shuttle (facing forward) seems to have a different back than the other chairs.
A big deal is made about igniting the fuel to send up a flare, but exactly what fuel gets ignited? They had no fuel after crashing on the planet, so they had to figure out a way to drain the energy from the phasers into the 'fuel tank', but since phaser energy is energy how do you ignite it?
I wonder about Spock sending out that flare at just the right time. How did he know that the Enterprise might be on that side of the planet? If I recall correctly the light from the burning fuel was less than the width of the planet. If the Enterprise had been on the other side of the planet...
Contrary to the fan joke about everyone in a red shirt dying, the two dead men were wearing gold shirts.
Anti-nit on Spock's strength. He couldn't get the leverage to push the boulder off.
>How did he know the Enterprise might be on that side of the planet?
"It was a calculated risk, Doctor."
When huddled behind a rock on Taurus II, Spock and the others discuss about killing the creatures. Spock naturally objects, and orders McCoy & Mears to "assist uh... Mr Scott".
Looks like Spock's due for retirement. Already.
DVD NIT----
For those who get this episode on DVD, watch the "trailer" part of the footage, it contains a scene in which the shuttlecraft is starting to go down into the atmosphere... The camera shot is looking out the shuttlecraft windows with a wall of fire right in front!
The scene was removed from the episode!
It's a good thing Ferris wasn't on the Bridge when Kirk ordered a 180 degree angle turn-around... he'd be drummed out of Starfleet for sure! The guy musta been down for a "nappy-pie" because he was so cranky!
(just joking...but where was he?)
John---
Checked out your DVD nit, and found that there seems to be several things in the trailer that are not in the episode. Interesting.
In his book, Phil mentioned the amazing "enlargment technology" the giant's weapons possess. How about the amazing "shrinking technology" the shuttlecraft has? Inside, it appears large enough for people to stand up, on the outside---it don't.
Also, I'd like to know where they got the shovels to throw dirt on the bodies of Latimer & Gaetano.
I saw none.
Last, but not least...everyone should have been killed during the crash-landing because there were no seat belts anywhere on the shuttlecraft.
Forgot one....
Some of the boxes used for testing the transporter on the Enterprise look very simular to the ones McCoy & Mears dispose of in the shuttlecraft to lighten the load.
BEST LINES:
Kirk: You're a stubborn man, Mr. Spock.
Spock: Yes, sir.
RUMINATIONS:
The quasar-like effect on the viewscreen looks very realistic in this episode.
Well, seeing as Starfleet can produce shields, force fields & the ever popular inertial-dampening field. The interior of the shuttle may have used something like one or more of these to keep the crew from becoming a red smear on the viewscreen.
After Immamura & McCoy rescue Spock, Spock angrily points his finger at them and begins to chide them for their rescue. So much for showing no emotion.
When you said Immamura, don't you mean Boma? Immamura was a member of the party sent out to try to locate the Galileo.
Boma is correct....sorry.
It's been a long month.
Is it just me or were the extras in the shuttle with Spock, McCoy and Scotty the most unprofessional military personel you have ever seen? They continually question Spock's orders...even though most of them were sound.
And the episode makes it look like that Commisionner guy is a bad guy...even though he was right. And what was the rush in studying this thing? Why did a shuttle have to be sent now? It's not like it was going anywhere.
I've snagged a few new DVD nits.
The leather-and-wood shields of the baddies stop Spock's phaser fire. Imagine getting kicked in the ass by a pair of boots made from that leather.
In the scene toward the end, where everyone gets hot as the shuttle burns up in the atmosphere: McCoy wears a pinkie ring. I wonder if he has a coke spoon on a chain under his shirt.
Spock and crew inadvertently land on this planet and attempt to repair the shuttle. In the process, they are discovered by huge creatures that attack them. Yet, when Spock manages to get his party rescued, there is no mention of assessing the damage they made with regard to the Prime Directive. Maybe its "not so Prime" if the exposure to higher technology was inadvertent.
Or maybe it was decided that they were so primative, and the contact was so minimal that there were no real long-lasting cultural implications. (Of course that takes a very techno-centered view of civilization, but so do the "scales" they use to assess the level of civiliztion of local populations throughout all the series, and it only came back to bite them in a few episodes: "Errand of Mercy," "Home Soil" )
When Scott begins to use the phasors to recharge the fuel cells, the orchestra plays "The Gary Mitchell Clicking the Remote Control" music from "Where No Man Has Gone Before" for a few minutes. (The creators must REALLY dig that theme)
When the Columbus lands, the words "Galileo" are emblazened on the front of the shuttle. (It was already noted that a simular nit occurred when launching)
Finally, they STILL have not fixed the end credits yet....they list a "SCPIPT SUPERVISOR......"
Spock must have a short attention span or something;
Boma suggests attacking the creatures ("Give them a bloody nose! Make them think twice about attacking us!). Spock then asks McCoy and Gaetano for their opinion, and then Boma! Why? It's was Boma's idea, so obviously he isn't going to change his mind. Spock even snaps back at Gaetano, when Gaetano says Spock's alternative plan might get them killed; it's clearly an un-Vulcan-like emotional outburst, but by the end of the show all of Spock's yelling ("Get us off, Scott!" "Seal the windows!") is ignored in favor of his fuel jettisoning.
Why is McCoy yelling at Spock for his plan failing? It was Boma's idea to attack, so shouldn't he be the target of the yelling? If the creatures are angered by a display of phaser fire, they probably would have been incensed by the injuring of one of their own.
And what the heck is Uhura doing at the end of the show, learning on the back of her chair, gawking at Spock? Shouldn't she be paying attention to her post?
Considering that Vulcans find emotions offensive to observe, Spock must have thought he was in h-ell when the whole bridge crew laughs at him.
The little bits of humor at the end of certain episodes has always disturbed me, and this one is no different. My guess is that none of these people knew Latimer or Gaetano, because I sure couldn't laugh so hard after a friend's nasty death.
John Crawford was also in "The Poseidon Adventure". If you blink, you miss him. (He was the Chief Engineer, who insults the new owner of the Poseidon.) He was also the Mayor of San Francisco in the Dirty Harry flick "The Enforcer."
Yeoman Mears really has a grasp on the obvious, claiming "It's getting hot" as the shuttle is burning up in the planet's atmosphere.
McCoy wears the pinkie ring even into the sixth "Trek" movie.
I also really dig the "Gary Mitchell Clicking the Remote Control" music.
Phyllis Douglas (Yeoman Mears) also plays one of the hippies in "The Way To Eden." She is the one who tries to prosletize Sulu.
Ferris must not be a very important person...he has no bodyguard. Most diplomats, commissoners, & ambassadors do
John Crawford (Ferris) played the Frisco Mayor in the Dirty Harry flick "The Enforcer", as I said above. He had one aide with him at Candlestick Park, one or two guards in the car, and was kidnapped in the pic by the "revolutionaries" anyway.
With Ferris' attitude toward the lost crewmen in this episode, is it any wonder he could still be a low level commissioner. (His title was "Galactic Commissioner," probably one of many.)
Of course one must ask, why didn't Kirk have someone SCAN the quasar effect BEFORE launching a shuttle into it? That way, the sensors would pick up the distortion and someone would (hopefully) pipe up saying, "Better not send a shuttle there, it might get lost." But,noooooooooooo! Had the send the shuttle BEFORE scanning the quasar. Kirk was almost responsible for the deaths of his senior staff!
He’s trying hide the fact that he wasn’t paying attention to what was happening.
Am I the only one thinks that Commissioner Ferris’ facial expression at the end of the teaser seems somewhat odd, or out of place, given the situation of the episode?
I knew he should’ve limited his visits to the Red Cross to ten a day!
Latimer’s body doesn’t seem to be leaking any blood from the hole in his back that he must have while being carried back to the shuttle by Boma and Gaetano, nor do the two seem to get any blood on their pants.
>Am I the only one who thinks that Commissioner
>Ferris' facial expression at the end of the
>teaser seems somewhat odd . . .
No. See my post on this board for 2/28/99.
Todd! You went back in time to post that, didn't you!? ADMIT IT!!!!!
*Ignore Merat, since Voyager went off the air he is suffering from time-travel story withdrawl*
Yes, I admit it. The only reaon I went back in time was to 1999 was to place my Super Bowl bet on the Rams . . .
Maybe they didn't know what a quasar is when this show was made.
As I understand it, a quasar is a galaxy with a supermassive black hole at the centre, into which large amounts of matter are falling, leading to a colossal release of energy which outshines all the other stars in the galaxy.
It is not something you would find inside our galaxy, because it is a galaxy in its own right. Nor is it something you would want to get anywhere near.
(There is another theory that all galaxies begin as quasars until the black hole runs out of matter to swallow.)
In what sense is the phenomenon in this episode 'quasarlike'?
NANJAO: This is the first episode to feature the shuttlecraft. However, as Phil noted, they sure could've used one in "The Enemy Within"
This ep was probably written to introduce the shuttlecraft, and was filmed before the "Menagerie" framing story was, but aired after. (In "The Menagerie" the shuttle is handled more matter-of-factly.)
At a convention, it was said that the shuttlecraft had not been devised when "Enemy Within" was written and filmed.
Maybe the in "The Enemy Within", the shuttlecraft were due to be delivered Next Tuesday™?
Ducks and runs!
Yeah...blame Nigel Harriman...great-grandfather of John Harriman..that's the ticket.
Gawking & dawdling runs in the family.
How many shuttles does the Enterprise have?
According to the original blueprints, at least four.
So, why does Kirk only send ONE shuttle to look for the Galileo when the sensors don't work and the transporter don't function right?
It could be that at this point, The Enterprise only had the one shuttlecraft. Either the others were undergoing repairs or were due Tuesday. 
I must add that Kirk only orders THREE search parties to look for the Galileo crew.
From what I gathered from Kellowitz, there were only 3 to 5 people per search party.
There are about 400 plus people on the Enterprise.
What were the other plus / minus 380 people doing? Sunbathing?
Two trains of thought on the number of shuttles:
A source book ("Making of Star Trek", I think) says there are six. However, Galloway, in "Omega Glory", says "All FOUR shuttlecraft are still in the hangar," leading me to believe that four craft per starship was the norm.
If you listen to the crew countdown in "Star Trek-The Motion Picture" during the Enterprise's journey through V'Ger to the brain island, it appears that most are off duty at any given time (172 on duty, 248 off, 11 in sickbay as per the film.) However, in a search and rescue operation like in this episode, as much of the crew as possible should be deployed.
I thought there were seven. I seem to recall seeing a shuttle with the number NCC-1701/7 on it somewhere.
Of course, Kirk could've launched A PROBE to investigate the quasar..but nooooooooooo!
(Short Show Syndrome)
**Leslie alert**
Again, Mr. Leslie is at the Engineering station on the Bridge.
The chairs on the shuttle are poorly designed. It seems that when someone gets off, the seats droop downward. Why would you want to have seats on a shuttle that needs to be adjusted before you sit down? If these chairs recline also, why would you want to recline? Hopefully, you won't be on board for a great length of time.
GREAT MOMENT: Yeoman "Bunny Hop" Mears & her picture perfect landing after the shuttle lifts off.
Cleaned up a few messages that strayed off-topic... no harm, no foul, as far as I'm concerned. Proceed with regularly scheduled nitpicking.
Off day for Jerry Finnerman: In some scenes shot in the back part of the shuttlecraft, you can see that there's not a full ceiling over the set. Also, in one shot, you can see a hand lowering the bottom portion of the Galileo's exit.
In an early scene on the bridge, the railing for the Science and Communications stations is missing.
Good days for Jerry Finnerman: I love the pullback shot when Kirk orders "Space-Normal Speed." Also, there is a shot in the teaser where Kirk does a walk around the bridge from one end to the other. Very cool.
McCoy makes his atmospheric measurements:
"Partial pressure of oxygen,
70mm of mercury,
nitrogen--1 40.
Breathable, if you're not running in competition."
Well, I wouldn't call this breahable. Another idea the mind can't stomach.
You're parsing that wrong.
PO2: 70mm
PN2: 140mm
That's an atmosphere with about 1/3 the total airpressure of Earth sealevel, with 1/3 O2 content. That's quite breathable.
Thank you, ScottN. You wouldn't believe, but this was really an important problem for me.
I just saw this episode recently and again, I feel the need to rant on how badly written it is.
The Enterprise is on it's way to deliver badly need medical help. And yet Kirk feels the urgent need to send a shuttle to study this quasar. He hides behind the fact he has orders to study quasars wherever they need to be found. Okay, fair enough. But why the hurry? It's not going anywhere. If the Enterprise had been in battle with the Klingons, would Kirk still have sent a shuttle the moment the quasar had been discovered?
Next, during the search, they repeatedly say they will continue the search until the last possible minute. And yet when they finally head toward their destination at the end of the episode, they head there at warp 1!!! Their slowest warp speed. So...could they have spent more time searching if they headed there at warp 7?
And the attitude of the other six towards Spock is just plain racist and ••••••. They question his orders and put themselves in danger because they feel that the two dead crew members deserve a proper burial.
Earlier on, two of the "Galileo Seven" suggest a show of force to scare the creatures off. Spock tries it and when it fails the other six act like it was Spock's suggestion.
And for a logical, non-emotional Vulcan, Spock sure shows alot of emotion in this episode.
And last, but not least, the laughing at the end of this episode is totally inappropriate considering they lost two people.
I like the scene where Gaetano is left on guard duty and Boma puts his hand on his shoulder. It's as if he's saying, "So long, pal. It's been nice knowing ya. Poor guy, might as well have on a red shirt..."
Shouldn't he have been on guard closer to the shuttlecraft, instead of out there where he's a dead man walking?
When Spock is pinned by the boulder, his hand is still able to move it from side to side. Actually, I think his hand is the only thing holding it against him.
Why is the fuel ignition considered an act of emotion? Nothing he could think of had any chance at all of getting them rescued. Igniting the fuel gave them a small, but logically sound, chance. Certainly remaining in orbit wouldn't have accomplished anything. Sounds logical to say "small chance" is better than "no chance."
When Kirk says: "Mind your helm, Mr. Sulu." Mr. Sulu leaves his post. (You can see the chair twirl around) So much for "Mind your helm"
Why didn't Gaetano grab the giant spear & use it against the creature that was approaching him? Is there some kind of regulation that says, "Thou shalt not use alien weapons to defend yourself?"
When Kirk orders them to go to the planet needing medical supplies (before they find the shuttle) he says they should go at "space normal speed". I have never heard this term in any other episodes.
The survivor of the Cestus III attack in "Arena" said that the Gorn ship approached the outpost at space-normal speed. Maybe that's Warp One?
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Phyllis Douglas (Yeoman Mears) played the young Bonnie Blue Butler in the classic film Gone With The Wind. She was uncredited in the pic, though. (See what you can learn from IMDB?)
Apparently the plague victims on Makus III aren't as important as a quasar out in space that will STILL be there next week. There's no reason they couldn't drop off the medical supplies and Ferris, and race back at warp 8 to Murasaki 312.
Spock tells the shuttle crew that they should exit the ship so Scott can get some work accomplished, but only Gaetano and Latimer leave.
There's still 4 people in Scott's way.
Boma was very argumentative from the very start, and against a superior officer, at that. I realize the creators wanted to create drama, show how different Spock was, but Boma, Gaetano, and Stiles in 'Balance Of Terror' are very rude to Spock, who's the First Officer, and a superior officer. Somehow I can't picture any of these guys having such arguments with Kirk, Picard, Sisko, or Riker.
It may have been mentioned earlier, but Scott wanted them to shed every pound of excess weight. So why are there still 2 unoccupied chairs in the back? Gaetano and Latimer are dead, and they won't be needing them. That'd lighten the ship by 5 to 10 pounds.
Spock was actually going to leave Latimer's body on the ground after they found him. This is inexcuseable for someone who comes from a culture that reveres their 'katra', and insist on a proper burial. Not to mention the possibility that Gaetano might have had a family back home that would like a body to bury.
Nichelle Nichols line that includes 'quadrant 779X by 534M' must have been a tongue-twister that required multiple takes. Never could figure out why the location had to be designated with so many numbers.
After Boma is told that there'll be no burial ceremony for Latimer, he leaves and the shuttle doors close. If you watch very closely you'll see a hand (just for an instant) push the lower door up into place. It looks brown, so it was probably actor Don Marshall.
Harve Bennett once said in an interview that prior to creating The Wrath Of Khan, he watched every episode for ideas and a feel of the series. Not only did he get it mixed up by saying that Klingons don't take prisoners (instead of the established Romulans), but I think he mixed up Spock's line in this episode. He says 'There are always alternatives', whereas Bennett had one of Spock's sayings as 'There are always possibilities."
Spock chides himself when he says that he's made the correct logical decisions step-by-step. Really? How logical of it was of him to post Gaetano as a guard so far from the shuttle? What was the purpose? Shouldn't Gaetano have been within at least 30 feet of the ship?
I believe there was a blooper with one of Nimoy's lines, because it sounds contradictory. He says;
"If we burn up in a decaying orbit, or die here on the planet's surface we shall surely die."
Huh? 'If we die here we shall surely die'?
Doesn't he mean;
"If we burn up in a decaying orbit, or STAY here on the planet's surface, we shall surely die." ?
A neat special effect that would be interesting to have seen would have been an arial view of the Galileo as it flies 100 feet or so above the planet, and one of the 10-foot tall giant ape things falls off one of the engines to his death.
Things just got a lot more weirder....
During the end credits....just before the infamous "Scpipt Supervisor Snafu", they list: "SCRIPT Consultant....Steven W. Carabatsos"...Now...the question is: If the end credits looney got "Script Consultant" spelled correctly, then why didn't he/she spell "Script Supervisor" correctly?
Maybe an unsupervised scpipt changed it?
You know how those scpipts like to cause mischief when they're unsupervised!
LOLROTF 
"A neat special effect that would be interesting to have seen would have been an arial view of the Galileo as it flies 100 feet or so above the planet, and one of the 10-foot tall giant ape things falls off one of the engines to his death. "
Yeah, I think they did something similar in "Galaxy Quest."
It would be interesting to see some "special edition" episodes produced using the filmed live action with the original cast but new modern special effects shots. They done that with some "Doctor Who" DVD's. You have the option of watching the original special effects shots or updated computer effects. It's kinda fun to see.
The Galileo is still a terrific design. New effects using the old design would be great. Also, adding people (in the upper observation pods) in the shuttle bay would be a nice improvement.
My main complaint about this ep is the ending. Why would burning up the fuel cause all that smoke in the passenger cabin?
It wasn't the burning fuel that was causing the smoke. The Shuttlecraft was now entering the planet's atmosphere & burning up. (Ala Columbia)
The special effect for the scene pictured the Galileo as being far from the planet.
That's a nit on the FX. The dialog indicated that it was reentry heating.
NANJAQuestion: Been so long since I've seen this ep--why is the Yeoman nicknamed "Bunny Hop?"
Sir Rhosis
Because she hopped from the chair to the floor like a little bunny. (Watch it again, It's quite amusing.)
She also jumps out of her chair and kneels on the floor again when Spock jettisons the fuel. Not really a hop that time, though.
I guess its no suprise that Mr Boma was somehow missing on the bridge during the final cutesy scene, even though Mears was there. Spock must have had him thrown in the brig for insubordination.
LESLIE ALERT II
Mr. Leslie (Eddie Paskey) is also standing next to the Transporter Technician when the Transporter Technician reports that the inanimate objects are beamed back safely. There's no mistake about it...it's him. I know that man's appearance from every angle!
(That guy sure gets around)
I was watching this episode with my dad the other day, and he pointed out an obvious nit that I don't think anyone has touched on yet.
Spock and the others talk about only having enough fuel to make one orbit around the planet. Ummm . . . once you were in orbit, why would you need to use any fuel?
That's a common nit in TOS. It happens in Court Martial as well.
Another DVD Nit:
There was yet another confrontation between Kirk and Ferris that's in the previews for the episode, but not in the episode itself. That's in addition to the wall of fire John spoke of.
Compared to the excellent picture and sound quality of the episodes on the DVD's, the trailers for the episodes are in pretty sad shape, with scratches and dirt all over.
CG enhancing: Following up on an idea in the Space: 1999 threads, if Star Trek the Classic Series could be enhanced with CG, these are ideas I have for this episode.
I believe that the Enterprise is much too far away (shuttlecraft flying time) from the Murasaki cluster when Ferris and Kirk are arguing about a search. Probably it would be better to show the nebula close up with two bright stars dimly shining out of it. A "search grid", with a very small number of sectors coloured, might appear overlaid on the existing shot, indicating efforts to scan, and the paltry results so far.
The ground fog is terribly done when Gaetano, next to Latimer's body, is shooting at the creatures.
The phaser beams shot by Boma and Gaetano at 10 and 2 o'clock are steady, but their grips on the phasers are not. Do the phasers have "steadicam" circuits? What you could do is overlay a "steadicam" "nozzle" of energy, the front of which extends an inch from the phaser's beam emitter, remaining steady, and the back of which tracks the movement of the muzzle.
The clock on the bridge needs to be made digital instead of mechanical.
Since communications are out, how could the landing parties signal for beam-up, let alone be tracked by the ship's sensors or those of the transporter? I suggest that the "laser beacon" introduced in "The Squire of Gothos" would be used here. A narrow thin beam ought to be seen rising from the planet in the orbital scene immediately before Uhura notifies Kirk of the beam-up.
Unfortunately, nothing can be done about McCoy, Mears and Boma making the aft compartment look larger than it could realistically be. However, perhaps something could be done to digitally "lift" the roof of the exterior mockup?
Do you want to consider "redesigning" the shuttlecraft? It shouldn't be as sleek as the mid-24th century shuttles, but since this Galileo is toast at the end of this episode, it could be made longer, with a larger aft compartment that we can infer Boma and McCoy move into after going around the corner (10 minutes before liftoff).
When the Galileo reenters the atmosphere, the present "rocking" motion could be replaced by a more realistic sudden reddening and frictional burning. When the Galileo burns up in the atmosphere, I suppose a shot could be added that shows Galileo's blackened exterior disintegrating at the front of a fiery trail, its nacelles ripping away and cartwheeling, a fiery blaze across the green face of the planet, doing a fade to Sulu pronouncing, "Whatever it was, Captain, it just burned up in the atmosphere."
Is there ANYTHING you like about these episodes that you repeatily trash? Why do you bother watching them if all you want to do is change them?
Make the shuttlecraft look taller? Give me a break!
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John, why don't you just settle down? What do the suggestions that have been made hurt? Do they harm you? Are they an insult to you? If those posts bother you so much, here's something you might try - DON'T READ THEM.
Thank you.
Live long and prosper.
Just for the record, I am not the "John-Boy" that's griping here.
Hey Benn, if he has the right to make sujustions like that, then I have the right to complain about them. You can't have it both ways!
And after the way George butchered the Star Wars movies, no real Star Trek fan could go along with "CG Enhancements" like that!
Except that the majority of GCapp's statements are clearly made as suggestions of what he would do if he could enhance and update the scenes with CG, which is not exactly "trashing," a word that implies a less constructive, and more vitriolic attack.
His suggetions were neither vitriolic nor non-constructive, nor were they directed at any one particular person. Your response to them, on the other hand, most certainly was.
John-Boy, Benn's suggestion is a good one. Simply skip past GCapp's posts if you don't like them. Also temper your language. There's no need for profanity in expressing your opinion here.
Here's Phil the Chief's 2nd rule of Nitpicking:
All nitpickers shall perform their duties with light-heartedness and good cheer.
Please keep this in mind.
Butch the Moderator, Im sorry for the profanity, but if I want to express my opinion of someones suggestions, thats my right, people do it all the time, in here. Why is it only wrong if I do it? Why am I the only one to get rules quoted to me?
And Luigi Novi, it is trashing the episodes if you go from episode to episode, wanting to change the things that are not "perfect" in your eyes. Edited by the moderator to remove ad hominem statement
John-Boy, of course you are entitled to your opinion. You'll notice that I only removed one word from your post, the rest of your post is intact. If it was "wrong", it would have been removed entirely. You are not the only person on this site to get the Chief's 2nd rule quoted to them. It's something that comes up here at Nitcentral in nearly every section at one time or another. Another thing not allowed here at Nitcentral are ad hominem attacks (this is stated in the main page of the Garbage Dump topic). If you don't know what ad hominem is, simply use a search engine look for a definition, there are several good ones on the 'net. The purpose of my bringing up the 2nd rule was to try and head off a flame war. It may be hard to do, but sometimes we have to realize that the best thing to do is to agree to disagree. You and GCapp clearly have opposing views on the idea of CGI enhancements. You are both entitled to your opinions. This is a case of there being neither a right nor a wrong opinion, just differing ones.
You are right of course, Butch the Moderator, and I will no longer say anything about CGapps suggestions, since it upsets everyone so much.
First of all, John-Boy, I am not upset about your posts. Frankly, I've skipped over GCapp's posts on revamping the eps. Personally, I don't like the fact that Lucas redid some of his Star Wars movies. That's why I refuse to buy the original trilogy on DVD. It's not my Star Wars movie. That is, not the films I liked. And I certainly don't see a need to CG TREK to make it "better". That's why I skipped over GCapp's posts. He's entitled to express his thoughts on it. You're entitled to express your opinions on them, too. As long as they do not get personal. Which I thought you were getting to. Besides, those suggestions seemed to really be bothering you. I was merely suggesting that if they bother you so much, ignore them. No biggie. I wasn't trying to dis you or flame you.
Live long and prosper.
John-Boy: Butch the Moderator, Im sorry for the profanity, but if I want to express my opinion of someones suggestions, thats my right, people do it all the time, in here. Why is it only wrong if I do it?
Luigi Novi: Straw Man. No one said expressing your opinion of someone’s suggestions is wrong. What was said was that you should do so in a polite manner.
John-Boy: Why am I the only one to get rules quoted to me?
Luigi Novi: You’re not. Brian Webber was recently banned from this site for repeatedly violating them.
John-Boy: And Luigi Novi, it is trashing the episodes if you go from episode to episode, wanting to change the things that are not "perfect" in your eyes.
Luigi Novi: No, it is not. That is merely your mischaracterization. It is expressing an opinion. Nothing more. Doing so is only “trashing” if it is done in a lopsided, biased, or impolite manner, which GCapp did not do. Many of us often express what we would do with a given movie or episode’s story if we could redo it, myself included. There’s a difference between “trashing” and engaging in a hypothetical “what if” discussion.
John-Boy: You are right of course, Butch the Moderator, and I will no longer say anything about CGapps suggestions, since it upsets everyone so much.
Luigi Novi: Another Straw Man. No one said that merely saying anything about GCapp’s suggestions “upset” them. What we’ve said that going about it in an impolite manner is wrong, and that it’s against the site’s rules.
Luigi Novi, I never said that anyone said that my feelings concering CG Capps trashing of the episodes upset them. But it is clear from all the post that I have gotten since then that I have upset people. Please stop putting words on my mouth. Thank you.
OK, everyone, I think this is enough discussion about this matter. Let's get back to talking about this episode.
Thank you.
First of all, GCapp did not "trash" the episodes, Jon-Boy Jud Walltton Duke. He was offering what he thought were constructive suggestions. There is a difference. Second of all, it was you who said, "and I will no longer say anything about CGapps suggestions, since it upsets everyone so much." No one said they were "upset" by your posts per se. I certainly wasn't. I was piqued by the manner in which you expressed yourself. Quite honestly, you were bordering on the rude. I mean, it's cool that you don't like the idea of CGing the original eps. I don't either. But I'm not going to insult GCapp because he thinks it's a good idea. I'm not that rude. I've just seen what his posts were about and moved on. No biggie.
And btw, only three people - me, Luigi and the board's moderator, Butch - responded to your posts. That hardly qualifies as "everyone". (Okay, I'm just being nitpicky here. But such is the nature of the board. )
You are welcome here. Your opinions and viewpoints are valid and you are allowed to express them here. It's just the manner in which you expressed them that caused me some concern, m'kay?
Live long and prosper.
Ooops! Sorry, Butch. You posted while I was constructing my previous post. My apologies. I'll shut up about it now. 
Live long and prosper.
I understand Benn. OK, anything else on this matter needs to be taken to the Kitchen Sink board and discussed there. Let's get back to discussion of the episode.
Thank you.
John-Boy Judd Walton Duke: Luigi Novi, I never said that anyone said that my feelings concering CG Capps trashing of the episodes upset them.
Luigi Novi: Yes, you did. You said, I will no longer say anything about CGapps suggestions, since it upsets everyone so much. So yes, you did mention that saying things about GCapp’s suggestions supposedly upset people (and that is what I cited, not that merely your “feelings” did, since you never used that word originally). It’s a bit hard to backpedal on your own words when they’re recorded on a message board in black and white. I don’t need to put words in your mouth, as the ones you yourself choose are the only ones I’m responding to.
And no, I would not favor using CG to update the episodes either.
Sigh, is no one listening to me?
Anyway, on to Part 2.