Kudos to the creators for continuity. In the teaser, Spock displays a photo of Korby, who hasn't been seen in 5 years. The photo shows him wearing the uniform style as seen in "The Cage" and "Where No Man...".

The creators may be keeping continuity, but Robert Bloch isn`t! In this episode the "Old ones" (who built the androids) are referred to. I read that this is a homage to some of his previous books, as are the commonly appearing hexagonal doors which Phil refers to. Well, he also wrote the episodes Catspaw and Wolf In the Fold. In Catspaw he refers to the "Old ones" as Korob and Sylvia`s race! Did he forget that he had already made that homage in this episode?

I believe the Old Ones is a homage to H.P. Lovecraft- it was his name for the oldest of the demonic aliens, such as Yog-Sothoth and Great Cthulhu. Bloch was Lovecraft's protegee, and wrote several books expanding upon his "Cthulhu Mythos".

Guest Star Patrol--

Sherry Jackson (Andrea) was Danny Thomas' daughter on his TV program.

Ted Cassidy (Ruk) was Lurch on The Addams Family.

I thought that the girl who played Penny on "Lost in Space" played Danny Thomas' daughter.

Why didn't Dr. Korby let himself be found by one of the two earlier expeditions?

Funny, no one seemed to have a problem with a black woman kissing a white woman. Maybe it wasn't on the lips, but I would think it would count as an interracial kiss, which would make Kirk and Uhura's the second one.

These people are idiots! They keep beaming down to cold planets with no coats on! And in Chapel's case, with no pants!

The guard had seen Kirk and Chapel carefully skirting the pit, yet Kirk didn't question why a Security officer would foolishly wander close to the edge.

Kirk never made an issue of why Korby did not meet him as arranged, in spite of the fact that two of his men would still be alive otherwise.

I wonder why Korby didn't make an android that looked like Christine. Andrea is very much opposide Christine in looks.

Andrea has no emotions, yet she is able to recognize emotion in Christine.

There is really no logical reason for Korby to create Andrea looking the way she does. Christine had it right when she called Andrea "a mechanical geisha." Korby was able to put her off way too easily.

Korby said that the android duplication process was harmless. Seems to me that being whippped around at that rate of speed would be harmful. Not to mention the way Kirk winced in pain when his brain was being scanned.

Why would an android be affected by strangulation?

I would think that a stalactite the size of the one Kirk broke off would be very heavy. If it were so light that Kirk could hold it in one hand, it would be useless as a weapon.

Android Kirk said that Spock looked upset. Upset? A little disconcerted, perhaps, but hardly upset.

Andrea was supposed to look like Kirk was forcing her to kiss him, but at the last moment her head tilted towards Kirk (who looked like he was wearing lip gloss.)

About the Spock thing, its probably a matter of degree. Disconcerted for Spock might mean that he would be bawling his eyes out if he was human.

Where did the meals served to Kirk and Chapel come from? If androids don't eat, it seems unlikely that they would have food preperation facilities.

Look at the frozen landscape outside the cave. Is there supposed to be some kind of insulated transparency there?

So why wasn't Korby waiting to greet Kirk and Nurse Chapel? Was his internal clock running a little slow or did he forget to set it ahead an hour for Daylight Saving Time?

Dr. Korby translated medical records from the ruins of the planet Orion? Orion is a constellation and while many of those stars contain Orion in their designation, i.e., Delta Orionis, 21 Orionis, or even FU Orionis, I doubt that any of the planets would be referred to simply as Orion.

On page 30 of the Classic Guide, Phil took Dr. Korby's statement that androids can't love and wondered how he can love since he is also an android. First of all, while Korby's body is an android, his personality was taken from the real Dr. Korby whereas Andrea, I believe, was made from scratch and her personality comes from programming. Secondly, if your fiancé had discovered a scantily clad woman at your place of work, what would you have said?
Additionally, I find it interesting that he said androids couldn't love, an emotion, but said nothing about the physical act of having sex.

How exactly does spinning create an exact duplicate? Wouldn't it just shift everything to the right? (It's a Republican creator!)

This was an interesting culture. They have a high technology culture capable of creating androids that look exactly like humanoids, but they choose to live in rock hewn caves with furniture created out of wood and rope, with decorative embroidered pillows. Fascinating.

Sam Kirk hopes to be transferred to Earth Colony II. Would Earth Colony II be the moon or Mars?

That was a pretty loose stalactite that Kirk grabs to use against Ruk. He just touches it and it wobbles. (Actually, most Stalactites that I have seen are smooth and look polished, not rough hewn like that one.)

When Andrea grabs a weapon to use she takes it from the top of some machinery. Is that really the safest place to keep an energy weapon?

If the android Kirk really had a duplicate of Kirk's personality, then why did he turn down Andrea's offer to kiss him? (Actually, a number of these early episodes indicates that Kirk isn't as horny as later episodes would paint him to be.)

Either Andrea wasn't programmed to be smart or Kirk's kiss really scrambled her circuits. When the real Kirk kisses her he is a prisoner and wearing the overalls he was given. When Andrea sees the android Kirk he is wearing Kirk's uniform and he refuses to kiss her. Why would she assume that the android Kirk was the real Kirk? If the android Kirk had kissed Andrea then I could understand her reasoning, but I believe the android said that kissing is not logical. So did Andrea really destroy the android because she believed that it was the real Kirk or because her feelings were hurt?

How exactly does this android maker work? Does it make an exact copy or can the final product be altered? I believe Korby said he was dying when he found the machine, but it produced an apparently healthy android body. How would the machine know what was the proper condition of a Human body so as to avoid reproducing the damaged parts?

Yes there is a piece of glass at the cave entrance... you can see both Chapel's & Kirk's reflection on it.... the question is.... is it accidental or was it done on purpose?

If it was done on purpose, it's a stroke of genius on Korby's part to keep the cold air out and the warm air in.

Also during the first showing of the picture of Korby, there's a piece of hair on the picture, they cut away to Kirk then go back to Spock...the picture is now missing the piece of hair that was on it.

RUMINATIONS

This episode marks the first time a "red shirt" dies.

Matthews the security guard...pushed off a cliff by Ruk while on Exo III.

At one point in the episode, Kirk says to Korby "Give me the phaser GUN"

Phaser GUN? I suppose from a certain perspective that is correct. The problem is, they ususally call them "hand phasers" or "phasers"

This not the same nit Phil mentioned in "Spectre of the Gun" where Kirk called the SHIPS' external phasors "phaser guns".

Well, we do call those long phasers, phaser rifles.

I believe the term phaser comes from the energy being phased, so maybe the short phasers were originally called phase guns, and phaser caught on because of the similarity to laser.

Phaser could just be the future equivalent of six-shooter, rod, huntin' iron, piece...

I know we don't deal in reality here but I think the reason they used the term "phaser gun" is that this was an early episode and they probably figured the TV audience wouldn't know what a "phaser" was, so they decided to get a little more descriptive.

I'll buy that.

NOTE: This episode marks the first appearance for Christine Chapel.

No, that would be The Naked Time.

The opening pan shows the helm and nav consoles occupied. These crewmembers disappear very soon after.

OOPS, you're right. How could I forget that come-on by Chapel to Spock?

ANYWAY...This episode really gives Chapel an opportunity to "strut her stuff"

JUST A NOTE:
Chapel & Uhura exchange a parting kiss of sisterhood before Chapel leaves the Bridge.

NICE TOUCH!

Not really a nit, but is this not one of the most illogical episodes of the 1st season?

It reflects a very "sixties" concern with the dehumanizing effect of logic. In this light, it is very "human".

The scene with Ruk using a woman's voice is truly creepy.

Kirk says that Chapel has decided to stay aboard.... however she is not seen again until the episode "Amok Time"...which is in the SECOND SEASON!

I stand corrected, Chapel shows up again in the season finale "Operation: Annihlate"

NIT:

After Korby dismisses the android Kirk,Dr. Korby can't make up his mind whether to sit or stand when telling Kirk about his plans for making more androids.

I like Ruk....he was always "lurching" around.

When Kirk is talking to Ruk, one of Kirk's close-ups is flipped. (Note the part in the hair)

When Brown clicks on the light, it takes several seconds for Kirk to draw his phasor...it's a good thing Brown wasn't armed, Kirk would be dead. I must note that I've seen Kirk draw his phasor a lot faster in other episodes than this one.

Uhura's panties are (again) too small for her...not that I'm complaining mind you... I like the view.

Ted was also the guy who did the opening credits voiceover narration for "The Incredible Hulk" live-action series.

If Ted had been a younger fellow, he may have been a very good choice to play Worf. He certainly would have the voice for the part.

It would've been cool to see Ted Cassidy as a Klingon in TOS

In "A Taste of Armegeddon", the Enterprise has some kind of voice autheniticator to verify if any received message from Kirk is really Kirk (in case of a trap)

It sure would have been nice to have one of those things on the ship in THIS episode!

But, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

They beam up the android Kirk, and he steals the Enterprise's flight plan and *erk* *gag* THUD!

When Chapel says, "Go ahead & eat", her lips do not move.
(PROOF---Ventriloquism is a required course in Starfleet)

When Spock follows "Kirk-droid" into the Captain's quarters, the doors do not emit the usual "swish" noise.

Maybe TPTB were afraid the 'swish' would cause people to wonder about the Kirk/Spock relationship? ;-)

GREAT LINE: "Androids don't eat, Miss Chapel."
"Kirk-Droid" to Chapel at the table.
(You'd have to put yourself in Chapel's place to really get the chill that she felt...because up until that point, she thought she was talking with the real Kirk and she wasn't!)

Just a note: It seems that female androids don't wear bras either. I guess all those female Yeomen on the Enterprise can sleep easier tonight

NANJAO: Michael Strong would go on to portray one of the Brigadier Generals in "Patton" (A great movie, BTW)

The picture of Exo 3 would be used again on the Defiant in "The Tholian Web"

I thought the same way you did, Revd Kathy, about the stalactite. Also, my most recent viewing of this ep was the first time in 37 years I noticed the reflection mentioned in John's post of 1/31/00.
There was an obvious edit when the turntable is spinning to create the android Kirk. However, when Chapel talks to Kirk upon its completion, and the android Kirk is then revealed, I could not see any edit.
In both "Naked Time" and this ep, it sure looks like Majel Barrett is wearing a wig.
We almost never saw a coat worn in the series at all. No Trek character wore a jacket between "The Cage" and Star Trek-The Motion Picture.
The bed shown has no mattress. Very uncomfortable. Even "Oz" has mattresses on the beds. Why was there even a bed? Androids don't sleep, either. Guess they were expecting company.

You can see the edit when the android Kirk is turned about on the table if you look at the shiny silver bit in the very center. You can see the "jump" in the cut. I missed it the first time and rewatched it a couple times to see where it was.

Sir Rhosis

There's one plot point that has bothered me about this episode. (Another thing that bothers me is that this was one of the weaker episodes in an otherwise strong first season.) I got the impression that Chapel had not seen Korby since he first went to Exo III. Korby also said that he built Brown on Exo III. Yet Chapel knew Brown (she called him "Brownie") and Brown knew her. How could they have, if Brown wasn't built until after Korby and Chapel had parted company for the last time? Maybe Brown was originally human, then transferred to an android body. Yet Korby specifically said he built Brown; I assume from scratch.

Personally, I feel Brown WAS human and Korby constructed the android Brown later.

**LESLIE ALERT**

Mr. Leslie (in red) appears at the Engineering station on the Bridge

Ever wonder about the very terrestrial furnishings in the underground dwellings of Exo III, specifically the chair with the loose twine Kirk uses to threaten Korby with?

Well, Ruk was made by the planet's original inhabitants, and he was humanoid in development although a giant. So they presumably wouold have developed their furniture along humanoid needs. Remember Korby's expedition also would have brought some of their own furniture for themselves as well.

Back in 1999 D. K. Henderson wote:
"I thought that the girl who played Penny on "Lost in Space" played Danny Thomas' daughter.

Actually both played Danny Thomas' daughters.
Sherry Jackson played Terry Williams and Angela Cartwright played Linda Williams.

How old is Matthews anyway? He looks like he has a lot of grey in his hair. Should'nt there be an age limit for Security Guards?

The presence of grey hair isn't particularly indicative of age, John. There are people in their 20s and 30s who have grey hair. Moreover, we don't know how healthy and robust people in their 30s, 40s, 50s, etc. will be in the time of TREK. In the future, such a person may be in the prime of their lives.

Live long and prosper.

I see your point. Plus, being a Redshirt would add grey hair to one's head prematurely.

John, I discovered my first grey hair a week before my 16th birthday.

Luckily, my hair is not yet grey (I'm lucky -- by all statistics, I should be bald now), but my mustache is salt&pepper. Of course, Mrs. ScottN says she likes it that way, but I don't.

Did Korby create Andrea from scratch? If so, why not make her look like Christine. I mean...he does love her, after all. And since it seems so easy to make androids, why doesn't Korby make many more of them? It would be easier to take over the Enterprise with hundreds of androids.
Here's another question that probably sounds stupid. Korby tells Ruk to obey Chapel's orders. He says this in front of Kirk, not Chapel.
But when Ruk was hunting down Kirk, Chapel ran after him crying "I order you not to hurt him!" or something like that. How would she know Ruk had to obey her orders if she wasn't present when he was told to?

Why didn't he make Andrea look like Christine? Maybe because he loves Christine the person & Christine the android would just be a pale imitation?

When Spock follows "Kirk-droid" into the Captain's quarters, the doors do not emit the usual "swish" noise.
I noticed that now, while watching this ep on G4. The sound effects editor must have been asleep that day, as the actual noise the doors make was never replaced.

When Brown showed up to greet Kirk and Co. in the cave, it took Matthews about ten seconds to draw his phaser. Better late than never!

Kirk wrests the phaser from Andrea to face-off with Brown. If you look closely, Kirk grabs the phaser and twirls it around in his hand to get access to the fire button. However, the phaser was held properly in the first place! It was a subtle but interesting thing for Shatner to do to wring an extra drop of chaos and excitement out of the scene.

What setting was that phaser set to when Kirk fired at Brown? Brown goes down, and his android guts are exposed, sizzling and crackling. I can't imagine a stun blast did that damage. On the other hand, I can't picture that Kirk was intending to kill the guy, either.

Ted Cassidy's exaggerated body language as Ruk was great.

Christine's dialogue and intonation in the 'Mechanical Geisha' scene was very "Number One"ish.

It was odd to see Spock apparently sitting on a corridor floor writing on his padd when the android Kirk showed up.

Neat touch: when Andrea took the old-style hand laser from it's inconvenient storage spot, it was cool the way she twisted the barrel, just like in 'The Cage'.

When Kirk and Korby go through the door (the scene where Korby's true nature is revealed) the door for some mysterious reason closes with Korby still within it, tearing open his hand. I'd hate to walk through those things, knowing it might quickly slam shut and impale me with its' pointed edge!

The remastered version airs next weekend. Not a lot to do for this one.

It's hard to tell from the sped-up promo, but they may have fixed the glitch when the turntable rotates to reveal the android Kirk. As Phil noted, the real Kirk vanishes before rotating out of sight.

The robot guts of Korby (unlike Norman) appear to be unchanged. This would be difficult to change anyway. The Norman shot was an insert shot without a lot of motion.

The original effects were very effective -- the splitscreen of Kirk talking to Android Kirk was done flawlessly.

I've always wondered, if everyone on Exo III is an android, why do they have food here?

Androids, by definition, aren't fully mechanical. Perhaps they still need to ingest some foods periodically.

Androids, by definition, aren't fully mechanical. Perhaps they still need to ingest some foods periodically.

By what definition? Are you thinking of a cyborg?

An android is a humaniform robot.

Since we didn't see a kitchen full of cans and boxes of food and it was only an expedition, I guess we can assume that the food is created by a food processor/replicator machine.

My American Heritage Dictionary gives the following definition. "A synthetic man created from biological materials."
There are other definitions, but I don't remember them well enough to quote them accurately.

After about a billion viewings in my life, I just noticed something:

When Ruk talked to the Enterprise via communicator (in Kirk's voice), Spock commented to him, "Are you all right, Captain? You sound tired.". Nimoy's voice had the same echoey-filter effect as 'Kirk's' voice did over the communications system.

Wait: It might be Spock's "Your check-in was overdue" line that contains the comm-echo effect. I can't check it as my DVD player is on the fritz.

I know that there were not tons of CGI opportunities for the remastered episode "WALGMO",but this ep barely qualifies as remastered in my book.I knew they'd upgrade planet Exo III but it appears that was all they did.I did come into this episode 10-minutes late,so I may have missed some things,please let me know.No new phaser beam scenes,the androids all fade away after they are hit the same as before.When Dr.Korby's artificial skin is torn from his hand I thought they might put in some cool looking CGI for the circuitry that's exposed similar to the android Norman on the remastered "I Mudd",but they did not.I also felt that when they show the surface of the planet that there might be some ancient ruins in the ice fields.As I said,I caught this ep late so maybe they did that.I don't know if its a question of budget,time,or the CGI tech team just did not feel the need to do much of anything here.Perhaps one day these remastered eps will have a CGI tech team go at them again & tweak these eps further.I hope so.

New orbital shots. Prior to beaming into the cave there's a brief icy landscape shot that looks new, plus a new establishing shot in the cave. The new shot shows the dropoff better than the old ones (the ones who made us).

Spock's viewscreen with the Exo III and Korby slides is unchanged. (He needs to tell Scotty to clean the dirt out of the slide projector.) The glitch on the turntable is still there.

The Federation is pretty determined to find Korby -- there were two previous expeditions that failed to find him, yet the Enterprise is making a third attempt.

Korby answered the Enterprise's hail -- why not the others? He didn't know Chapel was on board yet.

Korby seems to have two room with identical rustic furniture. After Andrea destroys the android Kirk, she walks into a room furnished the same as the one where Korby was holding Kirk and Chapel. She walks in on them a few seconds later.

It's not a time jump (replaying her entrance from another angle) because she's not talking while entering the first room and is while entering the second room.

Spock's viewscreen with the Exo III and Korby slides is unchanged.

The Exo III display is also a bit crooked. For some reason, it was more apparent in the re-mastered version.

D.K. Henderson mentioned several years ago that it seemed odd that Korby would create the Andrea android, when it seemed like Christine was the love of his life, and was his fiance when he went missing. True, but perhaps young Andrea is a copy of his first, and hottest, girlfriend from his youth, and he'd want her back, even in android form.

Alan Hamilton;
'Korby answered the Enterprise's hail -- why not the others? He didn't know Chapel was on board yet'
True, but I'd guess that Korby just wasn't ready to be found, and needed to continue to research how to make androids. The Enterprise simply showed up when he was finally ready to recreate the technology on other worlds.

February 2000 John A. Lang and KAM were discussing the unusual wording of 'phaser gun' that Kirk used to describe his small Phaser 1. KAM then went on to suggest that phasers were originally called 'phase guns'. An interesting term from the future, as the weapons in 'Enterprise' are called 'phase pistols'. Pretty close, KAM!

Interesting that during the end credits the name of the actor that played Korby, Michael Strong, is shown over a photo of Ruk holding Kirk over his head, showing how strong Ted Cassidy is!

Why would Andrea serve Kirk a third plate of food? Why not remove the one from the android Kirk's placemat and give it to the real Kirk?

Kirk had enough time to mess with the android-Kirk's mind, other than saying out loud 'Mind your own business, Mr. Spock, I'm sick of your half-breed interference, do you hear?'. Since we've only seen Peter Kirk, the Captain may have intentionally fooled the android's programming by transferring a false fact into its programming. He looks surprised that the android Kirk knows of the 3 sons, but it might be surprise that he was able to trick it. That would give more meaning to Kirk's line, '...but we do have some interesting differences'. There's no telling what other false facts Kirk imagined so that the android would be discovered.

GREAT ENHANCED MOMENT

The turntable sequence is improved.


ENHANCED MOMENT MISSED OPPORTUNITY

They could've EASILY fixed the burnt out light bulb in Uhura's speaker, but didn't. TSK! TSK! TSK! The manufacturers should come to Nitcentral and read all of the nits and fix the nits as well.

Are there two methods of creating androids? Kirk and Korby are created on the turntable I suppose, but what about Andrea? Was there a proto-Andrea? If not, why doesn't Korby show us the process of making Androids from scratch?

Next week's remastered episode is "What Are Little Girls Made Of?", with "Charlie X" the following week.

For first time viewers, even after all the other
androids have been revealed, I don't think they
anticipated that Dr. Korby would also turn out
to be one.

From Captain Kirk's turntable 'ride,' I would
expect for him to say at the end of the spin,
"I'm dizzy." Also, he should have staggered
around when he got up as if he were wearing
beer goggles.

When Nurse Chapel said to the android Kirk
(and she didn't know it was the fake), that
she wouldn't go against Dr. Korby, I hope the
android Captain Kirk told the real Captain Kirk
that.

I CAN'T STAND a disloyal crewmember, and to
think that Nurse Chapel would allow the crew
of the Enterprise to go under for her past
affections to Dr. Korby!

Close-ups of Chapel in the teaser have a bright light behind her head. It looks like a reflection off an overhead monitor screen, however there's no such reflection in any of the wide shots.

Interesting that during the end credits the name of the actor that played Korby, Michael Strong, is shown over a photo of Ruk holding Kirk over his head, showing how strong Ted Cassidy is!
Bob Justman, who was associate producer, picked all the stills for the end credits, and that was precisely the feeling he wanted to evoke. His sense of humor was on-target; it was Justman who had Balok's still over Herbert F. Solow's credit for the second season.

Why would Andrea serve Kirk a third plate of food? Why not remove the one from the android Kirk's placemat and give it to the real Kirk?
I wonder why as well, every time I've seen the episode over the past 40-plus years. I also wonder just what was on those plates.

Me from a couple years ago "Kirk had enough time to mess with the android-Kirk's mind, other than saying out loud 'Mind your own business, Mr. Spock, I'm sick of your half-breed interference, do you hear?'. Since we've only seen Peter Kirk, the Captain may have intentionally fooled the android's programming by transferring a false fact into its programming. He looks surprised that the android Kirk knows of the 3 sons, but it might be surprise that he was able to trick it. That would give more meaning to Kirk's line, '...but we do have some interesting differences'. There's no telling what other false facts Kirk imagined so that the android would be discovered."

Now; like perhaps a complete disinterest in the opposite sex, including the opinion that kissing is 'illogical', as he inferred to Andrea? How was that act so similar to real-Kirk that he could replace him, as Korby suggests?
I think Kirk's 'mental sabotage' of his android twin was more extensive than we saw on screen.

Missed opportunity; when Brown was shot by Kirk, and fell back, his belly really should have been glowing from a CGI effect, because to go from intact clothing, to a burnt-out hole in his android body wasn't realistic.
Perhaps a shower of sparks erupting from Brown's belly when we see him on the ground woudl have been more dramatic, too.

I wonder what would have happened had Korby not chosen to commit suicide, but rather allowed Kirk to take him and Andrea into custody? What would have happened to them?

Remember Measure Of A Man, where Starfleet wanted to dismantle one of their own (Data)? It was that episode that established rights for androids. However, that was a century away. Would Korby and Andrea have no legal rights at all? Would Starfleet dismantle (read murder) them? Or would the fight for androids rights start a century sooner?

Would Korby get a trial for his crimes? He could be accused of the murder of the two security guards in this episode. Okay, Ruk did the actual killing, but Korby did sanction it (if you hire a hit man to kill someone, you're just as guilty, even though you didn't pull the trigger). If convicted, would Korby get life imprisonment. That could be a LONG time!

I don't know if Andrea would be tried, she probably didn't know what Korby did (I'm sure Kirk would push them to go easy on her). What would become of her.

So many questions.

What would become of her?
Using DS9 continuity, perhaps Section 31 would claim her.
But you make a valid point regarding Korby that I never thought. His future would be consumed with trying to prove that the real Korby is, in fact, inside the android Korby's brain, and he would fear being disassembled more than we, as humans, would fear death, because deconstruction, bit bny bit, might be a horrific way to die.
Also, Korby didn't want the Federation to know the truth about his android-making machines, as he explained to Kirk. Perhaps, killing himself was his way of taking his secrets with him, or at least, not being around to watch the Federation go down the drain once they figured it all out for themselves, and made armies of androids.

What would become of her?
Using DS9 continuity, perhaps Section 31 would claim her.

But what if Andrea didn't want to join them? Again, this would hinge on if she would be recognized as a sentient being with the right to choose.


But you make a valid point regarding Korby that I never thought. His future would be consumed with trying to prove that the real Korby is, in fact, inside the android Korby's brain, and he would fear being disassembled more than we, as humans, would fear death, because deconstruction, bit bny bit, might be a horrific way to die.

I assume Roger Korby was a Federation Citizen, with all the rights thereof (including the right to trial by his peers). The question being would he still be recognized as such.

I made similar arguments about Lore and whether he should have been tried for his crimes, instead of just dismantled (and this was after the rights of androids had been established in Measure Of A Man).


Also, Korby didn't want the Federation to know the truth about his android-making machines, as he explained to Kirk. Perhaps, killing himself was his way of taking his secrets with him, or at least, not being around to watch the Federation go down the drain once they figured it all out for themselves, and made armies of androids.

Since this technology was never used again, I'm assuming Kirk destroyed it (probably with a few dozen photon torpedoes from orbit). Don't want the Klingons (then enemies of the Federation) or the Romulans getting their hands on it.

What happend to the fake Kirk? He may not have liked Mr. Spock, but he diserved atleast a trial. If not being released from custody altogether.

What happend to the fake Kirk?

Andrea vaporized him.

What happend to the fake Kirk?

Andrea vaporized him.


Andrea mistook him for the real Kirk. She tried to kiss him (because of the moves real Kirk had put on her earlier). Android Kirk blew her off, and ZAP!

I guess "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!" also applies to androids.

A human can't have sex with an android, can they?

Sure they can. Data and Tasha Yar had sex in The Naked Now. Harry Mudd had androids design, build and program female androids as fully functional sex partners in I, Mudd. The Stepford Wives were android replacements of real wifes used, among other things, as compliant sex slaves by their corrupt husbands, etc,etc. Having sex with an adequately designed android presents no problem whatsoever.

And what's with the suggestion elsewhere that Andrea
should've been wearing a bra? She's a machine, she doesn't have fat glands on her chest!

Well, no, but she had well made facsimile of such glands, obviously made to look, feel and behave like the real thing. However, Korby would surely have had them made as close to perfection as he could, and they would not have needed something as clumsy as support by a bra.

One wonders why Korby made Andrea in the first place.

He probably wanted someone more pleasant to look at than Ruk

On a more serious note, she was possibly part of the crew of the ship that carried them to that planet, and one of the few to survive whatever accident stranded them there. She was made into an android, like Brown and Korby himself.

>What's Andrea's purpose?

To be the pretty brunette that Capt. Kirk kisses.

Why didn't the transporter register that it was beaming up an android and not a human (Kirk)?
Scott and Spock noted that Lincoln appeared like living rock, just before he was beamed up in 'the Savage Curtain', so why not here?

Regarding Andrea, if she had survived;
Me - "Using DS9 continuity, perhaps Section 31 would claim her."
Tim - " But what if Andrea didn't want to join them?"
Actually, I meant that Section 31 would 'claim' her, and set her aside in some secret place, never to be seen again, like the Ark at the end of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'.

Android-Kirk says that he thinks Spock looks 'upset'. Being upset is an emotional state, something the Vulcan would claim he was incapable of.

D.K. Henderson on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 5:48 am: Why didn't Dr. Korby let himself be found by one of the two earlier expeditions? Maybe he knew that Christine wasn't with them.

The guard had seen Kirk and Chapel carefully skirting the pit, yet Kirk didn't question why a Security officer would foolishly wander close to the edge. The guards are trained to take risks so the senior officers don't have to.

I wonder why Korby didn't make an android that looked like Christine. Andrea is very much opposite Christine in looks. He probably couldn't get the features right from memory.

Andrea has no emotions, yet she is able to recognize emotion in Christine. Korby probably programed her that way, possibly due to him not being able to develop an emotions programme that worked.

Why would an android be affected by strangulation? The mechanism that simulates breathing may be necessary to provide air for the function of some of the internal systems.

Keith Alan Morgan on Wednesday, April 14, 1999 - 8:56 am: If the android Kirk really had a duplicate of Kirk's personality, then why did he turn down Andrea's offer to kiss him? This is likely to be a glitch in the programming, probably due to the real Kirk planting the insults for Spock during the creation process.

beater of dead horses on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 12:15 pm: The computer knows the locations of the crew by detecting their life signs. In "Court Martial" it has an auditory sensor and can detect heartbeats. Wouldn't it notice that it doesn't detect the android duplicates' life signs? The androids in this episode could be capable of mimicking humanoid life signs.

Who Threw That?!

Regarding Andrea, if she had survived;
Me - "Using DS9 continuity, perhaps Section 31 would claim her."
Tim - " But what if Andrea didn't want to join them?"
Actually, I meant that Section 31 would 'claim' her, and set her aside in some secret place, never to be seen again, like the Ark at the end of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'.

And since the Federation at that time did not legally recognize androids as sentient beings, Section 31 would probably get away with it.

I would hate to think what they would do with poor Andrea.

Section 31 is the Federation's version of the Romulan Tal Shiar and the Cardassian Obsidian Order. They handle the dirty, morally ambiguous and reprehensible stuff that needs to be done to keep the Federation safe. The only difference is that nobody outside of Section 31 knows they exist.

I still wonder what would have happened to Andrea?

She and Data would have made a nice couple.

Maybe this was pointed out before - When the Kirk Droid chews out Spock, he's going through the command packet. Which (I assume) he brings with him, as he later shows it to Korby. But, when Kirk Droid walks down the corridor before he (it?) beams back to Exo III, he's empty handed.

Because the scene in question (Kirk walking down the hall) is stock footage from The Man Trap.

Geez, I know they used stock footage to save money, but how much would filming Kirk walking down the hall have set them back?

NBC wouldn't have ordered them to reuse scenes, it would have been a production decision.

IIUC NBC would have set the budget when they agreed to air the show for a season, therefore it would have been the Star Trek production's job to make shows that fall under the budget.

My question stands.

In David Gerrold's book on the making of The Trouble With Tribbles, David mentioned that Matt Jeffries complained about the number of hallway scenes in an early draft of the script and David asked how expensive it would be, and while he couldn't remember the number it was high enough that he decided to eliminate a number of hallway scenes.

Offhand I would guess they didn't have a standing hallway set, so they would have to get the walls out of storage and set them up, check the lighting, etc. all for one shot of Kirk walking down a hallway.

Then they should have just left that scene out, IMO.

It was not essential to the plot of the episode.

It was not essential to the plot of the episode.

No, but it's useful and inexpensive padding. They do have to bring the run time to a preset level.

I guess Brown was, like Korby himself, originally human. Christine recognized him when he first appeared, and she addressed him as "Brownie", a nickname a friend would use. She clearly knew him before the Korby Expedition left for Exo III (Christine might have even seen them off).

Andrea, on the other hand, seemed to have never been a real human. Christine didn't know who she was (she said that Roger had never mentioned Andrea before). So it seems that Andrea was built from scratch. As to whom Korby based her appearance on, your guess is as good as mine (perhaps a teacher he had a crush on as a kid).

Hot for teacher? Who do you think Korby is, David Lee Roth?
My own theory is that Andrea was based on the hottie that got away (because he was too much of a nerd or was too old for her). Or she could have been the woman he was involved with (as a younger man), before he met Christine.
She's a pretty wide open character, as far as an origin story goes.

I've always wondered if Ruk's appearance was based on 'The Old Ones', or if they looked somewhat different from him.

If I might propose a different origin for Andrea, I think it's also possible that she WAS a member of Korby's team who died, but was also transferred into an android body like Korby and Brown. She probably didn't even look the way she did as an android-- she could have worn glasses and had her hair pulled back and never wore makeup.
Korby copied the real Andrea, and for whatever reason, made her look attractive.
As evidence, I ask you to look at Christine's 'who-the-hell-is-she?' expression, her comment "I don't remember Roger mentioning an Andrea', and Andrea's changing of the subject, rather than answering it. The truth could be that Roger KNEW Christine was the jealous type, and didn't mention the inclusion of a young woman on Korby's unusually small team of 2 men and 1 woman.
I've always had a problem with a mere 2 people sent to explore a planet, but that's another discussion.

Except that Andrea was much more childlike that Korby and Brown were.

Perhaps this hypothetical real Andrea was killed outright when Korby's ship crashed (assuming that's what happened, it's been a while since I watched the episode), thus Korby could not recover her memories. He had to start from scratch.

As to how many others were on Korby's expedition, odd that neither Kirk nor Christine enquires about them.

Back in 2013, Tim asked that if Korby had not "died" at the end of the episode:

"Would Korby get a trial for his crimes? He could be accused of the murder of the two security guards in this episode. Okay, Ruk did the actual killing, but Korby did sanction it (if you hire a hit man to kill someone, you're just as guilty, even though you didn't pull the trigger)."

Korby actually tells Kirk that Ruk "destroyed" both guards, but then adds "totally against my wishes I assure you." Assuming that Korby is telling the truth, I would say he was innocent.

Korby, at that point, was an android. You don't put androids on trial. This was a century before the hearing in The Measure of a Man established that Androids do have rights. They would not have put Korby on trial, they would have turned him off and dissasembled him.

I more or less brought this up years ago.

In my opinion, turning Korby and Andrea off and dissembling them would be the equivalent of murder. Yes, they are androids, but both are clearly sentient beings and deserve to be treated as such.

If Korby has committed a crime, then let him be tried for said crime and given the appropriate sentence.

What I think would have happen, had Kirk managed to take Korby and Andrea into custody, would be that the Androids Rights thing would have happened a century earlier (and I can just see Samuel T. Cogley jumping into this one).

By the time the TNG era rolled around, Androids Rights would have been well established and Data could have easily told Bruce Maddox to get stuffed.

Korby "I'm in here, Christine! I am Roger Korby! The machine put my essence into this body!"

Christine; "They want to put you on trial and if they find you guilty, they'll turn you off and disassemble you!"

Korby. "Oh. Well, I'm just a robot carbon copy, actually. Faulty programming, yes? Somebody find me a decent computer programmer to fix my little glitch!"

Korby probably just gave Ruk the "Protect" order, and Ruk saw the guards as a threat that needed to be dealt with.

Ruk could have easily incapacitated both guards without killing them. However, Korby was not specific enough. Perhaps that is what he meant when he said Ruk killed the guards "against his wishes".

So, how did Mathews die? When he was schmushed to salsa at the bottom of the "bottomless" chasm while falling at terminal velocity? Or did it narrow down like a glacial crevasse? Or did he descend to where there's noxious gases and he suffocates (which still leaves the issue of what happened to his corpse)? Or is there magma down there and he had a final, hot bath? Or is there a wormhole down there that he went into so that it really is bottomless? Or was he crushed by increasing pressure? Or is Exo III hollow and he fell into the planet's core, bounced around the core's ceiling until his momentum was sufficient canceled to oscillate around until finally resting in the middle with whatever other stuff has fallen down there?

Does this matter?

He's dead, regardless of how exactly he died when Ruk shoved him over the edge of that pit.

You forgot the word "Jim"

As in, "He's dead, Jim..."

Imagine if Andrea survived, and then, a few decades later, she runs into a young Noonien Soong.

Here's an article that contains an interview with Sherry Jackson about (what else?) her costume. It also notes Bill Theiss' work methodology.

Fascinating.

Life is truly stranger than fiction.

Sherry Jackson and William Shatner are now the two last surviving actors who appeared in this episode.

That's a sad thought.

It's possible that Korby killed himself (and Andrea) because he knew that the two of them would have no chance under Federation law.

They would have no legal rights.

I don't think that you're right here.

I think that when Korby realized that he wasn't human and Andrea was obsessed with him that he decided that it was time to end things.

Budd Albright (Rayburn) is still alive.

Really- I didn't know that.

Can you give us any details?

Just that IMDB and Memory Alpha say he's still alive.

If Korby wanted to off himself, fine.

But he had no right to take Andrea with him, IMO.

Hard to say, truth is that with her as obsessed with him as she was that she would have committed suicide or worse.

Is it truly 'suicide' if it's just an android?
Korby had every right to take her with him-- he built her, her programming was becoming messed up,and she wasn't sentient. Just an advanced machine in human form.
Just like KITT is just a robot in the form of a Trans Am.

I think that she was at least as sentient as Data- but that she had gone insane and had to be stopped.

she wasn't sentient. Just an advanced machine in human form.

Isn't that what Bruce Maddox was saying about Data in Measure Of A Man?

Data had been 'alive' and interacting with society for years and years. Andrea was around for less than 5 years and around a handful of androids. Their 'life' experiences can't be compared at all.

That's my point, she never got the chance to grow, like Data did.

Had Kirk been able to remove her from Exo III, she might have had the same opportunities that Data had.

I see some parallels here with the recent movie
Ex Machina. At the end we see an android entering the big, wide world...with only speculation about how it will learn, adapt, and try to "fit in."

That's what I had in mind for Andrea. A whole new world opening up for her.

At that rate, she might have ended up like Rayna, overwhelmed by humanity and her 'feelings'.

Maybe, maybe not.

Be interesting to see parallel universe in which Andrea does survive.

Hmmmm, Andrea in the Mirror Universe.

The Terran Empire would probably make her into an assassin.

would be the 'logical' thing to do.

Yup.

And she'd put the 'Captain's Woman' business OUT of business!

Yeah, she probably would!