George Takei

Nitcentral's Bulletin Brash Reflections: ClassicTrek: The Cast (actors, producers, writers, etc.): George Takei
By Adam Bomb on Saturday, December 16, 2000 - 5:18 pm:

What is this infomercial that Mr. Takei is in? I caught a glimpse of the end of it while surfing this morning.


By Endora on Friday, May 25, 2001 - 2:06 pm:

Haven't seen it, but was he wearing a star trek uniform, like he does in virtually everything else? The man is insane and thinks he's really this Starfleet Officer, instead of a one-note has-been actor. His comments on the new show ENTERPRISE confirms that he's a class one jerk. Hey SULU, there was no chance in hell that an "Excelsior/Captain Sulu" series would of even been considered, much less created. Wake up and smell the real world!


By S. Donaldson on Friday, May 25, 2001 - 2:49 pm:

Actually, it has been created. Check your local bookstore.


By LUIGI NOVI on Friday, May 25, 2001 - 7:42 pm:

No, it hasn't. Endora was obviously talking about a TV series.


By S. Donaldson on Tuesday, May 29, 2001 - 8:42 am:

And yet the legend continues...


By Ghel on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 10:46 am:

And it's probably better in book format than as a TV show. Takei's acting is not all that he believes it to be.


By Anonymous on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 8:16 pm:

His infomercial is for an online company called eMerchantClub. You can see him on their web site at:

http://www.emerchantclub.com/


By Anonymous on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 6:12 pm:

George is in this late 60's flick titled "The Green Beret" starring John Wayne and Jim Hutton ... my nitpick is ...
WHY would America or Vietnam or ANY country put their soldiers into harm's way wearing floppy fishing hats or Australian-type headgear??? Just finished watching this flick on AMC and was stymied by the lack of battlegear the "Green Beret" wore in combat situations. They wore their fancied "berets" while in training and in boot camp, but in battle ... "hey, let's put on floppy hats and fishing caps, that way we won't get shot in the head!!!!?


By ScottN on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 8:07 pm:

That's movies. In real life, they'd wear steel pots. But yes, that is a nit in the film.


By Anonymous on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 9:22 pm:

Sulu comes out of the closet.


By R on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 8:21 am:

Well congratulations for him. I am glad to see that he has become comfortable enough with himself to take this step and wish him the best of luck.


By Influx on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 12:14 pm:

Oh, my!!!!!!


By John A. Lang on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 12:20 pm:

Sure looked straight to me.


By mikeC on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 12:30 pm:

How does one "look straight"?


By R on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 2:16 pm:

Umm Rock Hudson was considered one of the biggest ladies men until he came out so appearances cannot be the sole basis for decision of who is and isnt homosexual. Not everyone is a libarace. (libarice?) you know who I mean.....

Homosexuals appear just like anyone else. Can you tell a jewish guy without him dropping his pants? No.


By John A. Lang on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 2:25 pm:

That's what I meant. Thanks, R.


By ScottN on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 3:47 pm:

Can you tell a jewish guy without him dropping his pants?

Sure... He's the one who's deathly afraid of his mother :)


By John-Boy on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 8:04 pm:

Oh. My. God!

If this is true, I just lost all respect for the man!


By R on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 8:46 pm:

Why? He's still the same person nothing has changed. He's been a homosexual for most of his life.

edited by the moderator to remove an 'ad hominem' remark.


By Josh M on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 9:04 pm:

Very interesting. Good for him.


By R on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 9:18 pm:

Oh ok J.A.L. (Too bad you name isnt Lang Andrews then you could be the JLA) but anyhow, I wasnt quite sure by the way you had worded it. Could have gone either ways. Sort of a Mr Humphries comment there. :-)

And John-Boy does make me think of a point. Apparently Mr. Takei was homosexual since a teen. This means for the entire run of star trek he, green berets, and everythign else he has done he was a homosexual. All the good works and awards he has acheived over his life. Are they now less meaningful because of his coming out? Is he any less of a person? The answer to both is NO!

Why would he be any less of a person? Why should we or anyone respect him any less. What is such the big deal? His being a homosexual doesnt invalidate his talent, his personality, his intelligence or his good works and deeds in his life.

I mean it seems like from the article that he is in a rather stable and committed relationship and is relatively comfortable in his life. Something that is not very usual in hollywood much less the rest of the country. I am happy for him. I respect him just as much as I did before this, and this makes no big deal to me in regards to watching him in a movie or tv show.

Sorry for rambling there but I felt that needed to be said.


By LUIGI NOVI on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 5:16 am:

Whoa. I had no idea.


By Josh Gould (Jgould) on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 1:34 pm:

Well said, R.


By R on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 4:27 pm:

Thank you. Just the truth as i see it.

And yes sorry for the adhom there. JB kinda got me a bit peeved. Thats why my comments where spread out like that though so it would be easier to deal with.


By John-Boy on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 4:56 pm:

Yes to all your questions R. Why are you so behind him? What is such the big deal you ask? I get so sick of these guys making a big deal about "coming out of the closet". I just wish they all would go back into that closet, so that I could paddle lock the door behind them!!


By John-Boy on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 5:26 pm:

oh and its nice to see that "ad hominem" thing work in my favor for a change!


By Sparrow47 on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 7:56 pm:

Unless people want to keep this dicussion going solely in terms of George Takei, might I suggest you all take it to the LGBT Issues (or whatever we're calling it these days) board?


By John-Boy on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 8:06 pm:

We are talking about George Takei! hes gay now, havn't you been reading? HELLO McFly!


By ScottN on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 9:47 pm:

No, he's not gay *now*, he's *always* been gay.


By R on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 7:39 am:

OK so Mr Takei's acting ability is somehow dimished because he is a homosexual? riiiight.

Why am I so behind him. I am behind anyone who declares in the face of narrow minded hateful bigotry that they are comfortable with themselves and their lives.

And I wish all the hateful narrow minded bigoted scumbags who trash a person just because of a minor difference such as skin color, sexuality or other things they have no control over could be locked in a big closet.


By Butch the Moderator on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 9:16 am:

All right, everyone take it over to the Political Musings/Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Transgendered Issues board.


By Benn on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 12:11 am:

William Shatner was just now on Jimmy Kimmel's show. Kimmel asked Shatner about George Takei. Shatner said, "Here's this 70 years old, wizened man saying, 'I'm gay' and no one cares." Kimmel then asked if the cast knew Takei was gay. Shatner responded that he knew. He prompted Jimmy to ask him how he knew. Kimmel did. Bill gleefully said, "I knew because he always had his phaser set for 'fabulous'."

This does prompt a good question, though. Was the cast aware of George's homosexuality?

Butch, I'm not trying to start up a new flame war with Takei's sexual orientation. But it is a part of the actor's make-up and I thought this was an interesting, non-political bit I just happened to see.

Live long and prosper


By MarkN (Markn) on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 11:39 pm:

California Senator Sheila Kuehl, Zelda from The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, was gonna star in a spinoff from that show till rumors of her being a lesbian started up, and then it was canned.


By P.R. on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 8:21 am:

Just being an Asian actor in 60s Hollywood was difficult enough; there were so few roles for any Asian-American actors. Being gay made it that more difficult. Tabloids would eagerly 'out' gay actors, thus , effectively destroying their careers. Wasn't Takei's family also forced into a Japanese internment camp in WWII. The man faced more than enough obstacles in his life. That he always maintained a dignified and respectful attitude towards others says a lot about his character.

He was a wonderful actor and human being.


By Influx on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 8:43 am:

Tabloids would eagerly 'out' gay actors, thus , effectively destroying their careers.

Name three actors this happened to in the period 1965-1970 please. I think that even tabloids at that time left some subjects alone.

I have to wonder what kinds of questions he will get at conventions now. Before, I'm sure it focused on his participation in the show. Now (at least for a while), I bet he gets some rather personal questions that may even be inappropriate.


By Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 9:53 am:

Tab Hunter is a good example. His studio tried to suppress rumours that he was gay. He said on Larry King that if his homosexuality became known at the time, it would have destroyed his career. Liberace has said in interviews that 60s tabloid stories of him being gay effectively ruined his film career (although, I don't think were that many film roles for him in the first place). The belief that tabloids didn't out people in the 60s is fantasy. It's been done from the 50s all the way to today.


By MarkN (Markn) on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 9:40 pm:

No one, with very few exceptions, knew that Rock Hudson was gay till he was sick with AIDS and about to die of it, and he was one of the top leading men in his day with quite the macho manly image.


By Influx on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 7:26 am:

Takei will be an announcer on Howard Stern's new satellite radio show. Now, I never watch or listen to Stern, but I'm glad that Takei's recent revelations have not seemed to impact his career at all. He certainly has a voice that belongs in radio.


By ScottN on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 9:39 pm:

Mr. Takei does a very nice job in Heroes as Hiro's father. He shows a very dignified and serious demeanor.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 10:30 am:

HAPPY 70th BIRTHDAY, GEORGE!
And I know it's a cliche, but LIVE LONG AND PROSPER!


By Benn on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 5:34 pm:

Hear! Hear! George was one of the two members of the original cast that I've met. I still have an autographed photo of him at the helm. Happy Birthday, George!

Live long and prosper.


By ! on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 8:43 pm:

Say anoyone knows Mr.George T got his own asteriod?


By Benn on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 12:39 am:

Gene Roddenberry and Nichelle Nichols also have asteroids named after them.

Live long and prosper.


By ! on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 8:52 am:

Benn- what no Sco
tty, Leslie, Spock , Kirk , Bones or Rand??

:-(


By He's Dead Jim on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 2:33 am:

Well, I saw Spocko at a Star Trek Convention with 5,000 other Trekkers in 71 at the L.a .Marriotts!, wonder if any Nitpickers were there!

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The Great Bird of the Galaxy shoulda gotten his own Galaxy ,not an asteriod!


By Mark V Thomas (Frobisher) on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 2:20 pm:

Re:Trek Character & asteroid names
There apparently is a asteroid named after Mr.Spock, (I think it's number is 4073)....


By Adam Bomb on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 7:01 am:

George Takei as a country singer? Who'd a thunk it? Well, try this.


By Influx on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 1:52 pm:

...and, he's outta here!
Reality Show cancelled

(I never even knew the show was on, either.)


By Adam Bomb on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 1:37 pm:

Good news from George - He's engaged to his partner, Brad Altman, now that California has lifted their ban on gay marriage. More on that here.


By LUIGI NOVI (Lnovi) on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 11:07 am:

Takei is getting married.


By Adam Bomb on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 9:43 am:

And, George and Brad were among the first to apply for a California marriage license yesterday. Photo at his site here.


By Brian FitzGerald on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 1:12 pm:

They showed a clip on "The Daily Show" last night of them getting married.


By Luigi_novi (Luigi_novi) on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 1:04 pm:

It's official: As of yesterday, Takei is off the market for good.

Brian, they only got their license on June 17. The wedding was yesterday. Peter David and his wife Kathleen were in attendance. :-)


By TomM on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:23 pm:

Has anyone else seen the PSA that Takei and Altman have made concerning LGBT marriages and the 2010 Census?


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 6:49 am:

George Takei and Patty Duke (???) are appearing in poster ads for the Social Security administration, and in particular, it's website. Both appear in Trek-style costumes, without the insignia. George's is his old gold one; Ms. Duke is wearing the blue uniform.
What connection does Patty Duke have with Star Trek? Or, does Mr. Takei has an identical cousin somewhere?


By ScottN (Scottn) on Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 9:26 am:

Oh my!


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 2:11 pm:

More Oh my! - Mr. Takei will be featured on the next round of Celebrity Apprentice, which begins February 12. His competition includes Clay Aiken, Dee Snider (is he gonna take it? ), Lou Ferrigno, and Paul Teutul of American Chopper. More here.


By Luigi Novi (Luigi_novi) on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 6:38 pm:

Takei is 75 today.


By Luigi_novi (Luigi_novi) on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 - 11:11 am:

LOL. George Takei reviews on Amazon. The one about the overpriced cable was hilarious. The opening line of his Hasselhoff review was also hysterical.


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 9:01 am:

More complaints about Bill Shatner from George Takei are here.
Come on George, give it a rest already. The series ended 45 years ago; the last Trek movie you were in was 23 years ago. You have fewer days ahead than behind; don't spend them spewing more bile.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 11:47 am:

Couldn't have said it better myself!
Here in the real world, if you carried hatred such about somebody that you haven't worked with for almost a quarter-century ago, people wouldn't give a d#mn, and tell youi to get a life.
I used to really like George-- now, not so much. I'll even avoid him at conventions, too, if he ever visits my city.


By Luigi_novi (Luigi_novi) on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 10:26 pm:

So what should he have said when Oprah asked the question?


By Josh M (Joshm) on Friday, August 15, 2014 - 4:31 pm:

Yeah, it looks like he's discussing working with Shatner in the 60s and perhaps the movies beyond. Let's see the entire interview in context before condemning one or the other.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 6:38 am:

So what should he have said when Oprah asked the question?

Something like "Water under the bridge" would have been appropriate.

Btw, here he sounds more like he's retelling a long standing running gag than like he's still angry at Bill.


By Luigi_novi (Luigi_novi) on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 7:29 pm:

What if "water under the bridge" was not an accurate answer?


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 3:44 pm:

After a while, these grudges keep themselves going on inertia alone. If he were to stop and really take a good look at it, he'd probably realize that it no longer means anything anymore. Answering "water under the bridge" when asked about it would help him realize that. At any rate, it would have been the appropriate and diplomatic thing to say because he is smart enough to know how tired people are of hearing about it and how little damage it does to Bill compared to how much it does to him.


By Chris Booton (Cbooton) on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 1:20 pm:

After a while, these grudges keep themselves going on inertia alone.

That reminds me of a line in the TNG Episode The Wounded. The where Picard talks about certain feelings becoming comfortable and normal after a time and how it becomes very hard to remember a time where one didn't feel that way. If not that then something similar.

I admit that I haven't read much of his posts about what went on, so I don't know much about what his grudge is about.

However, at this point, as others have said, it's been almost 50 years since the series aired. It was a different time and they were different people back then. I'm sure people did and said things that were good and weren't so good, just like any aspect of life.

Yes, I know how easy it is to say this from the point of view of someone that wasn't there and didn't have to deal with it.

The thing is that, as others have said, at this point, these feelings aren't going to accomplish anything. What does George want people to do? Fire Bill and refuse to do further business with him?

If I remember correctly, Bill's responses have been mainly frustration of the 'oh come, not this again. How many times do I need to apologize? Please, let's move on and leave it in the past' sort.

I think this is a lesson for us all. How many of us still get angry over things that happened years of even decades ago? At this point, does that anger really hurt anyone but ourselves? Letting it go doesn't have to mean we have to shrug off mistakes and wrongs of the past. I think at least that it means accepting the wrong or wrongs happened but there's nothing we can do about it and that it's best to leave the misdeeds in the past.

If we let the anger control us and effect decisions we make now, it's as though the anger itself has become the person we are/were angry with. We could well end up allowing the things a person said and/or did (things they may well feel strong regret over) to continue to effect us even years and years later.

If this were a TV show, the anger itself would form into a hallucination of that person that would continue to cause these problems not because the real person would or perhaps even could but because we couldn't let go of the past and in a way that version of that person continues to exist because we're allowing them to.

Like I said, I don't know exactly what went on all of those years ago. But unless what happened back then it still holding George back in terms on opportunities (and I mean not just in his mind in but in reality) then I agree that he's only hurting himself by continuing to hold onto that anger.


By Luigi_novi (Luigi_novi) on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 6:36 pm:

Francis: After a while, these grudges keep themselves going on inertia alone. If he were to stop and really take a good look at it, he'd probably realize that it no longer means anything anymore. Answering "water under the bridge" when asked about it would help him realize that.

Luigi Novi: So he has to say what you say he has to say?

Nope. Sorry. Wrong answer.

If that answer did not contextually fit the question he was asked, and/or was not accurate, then he was in no way obligated to provide it, just because you don't like what he has to say.


By Keith Alan Morgan (Kmorgan) on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 3:32 am:

Francois - he is smart enough to know how tired people are of hearing about it
So you've appointed yourself the representative of what the people want to hear about?

The "news" media might disagree as they've been the self-appointed arbiters of what the public "wants" for decades and they love it when people trash-talk others.

Heck, was there any other reason why Oprah, or any other "interviewer", would have George Takai on their show if he didn't slam Bill?

This has become his "party trick" and he (and Bill for that matter) probably realizes he has to do it if he wants to get interviewed.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 8:42 am:

I find Oprah repulsive, so I will never see this worthless interview or ever be interested in what Takei or Miss Super-Ego has to say.
Just hearing that he's yammering on about Shatner again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again tells me that maybe he's got the problem and not Shatner. He stood in front of you on camera 48 years, 6 months and 3 days ago????? And he gave you fewer lines in episode 64???????
OH!
MY!
GOD!
BURN THE SON OF A BEACH FOR THE NEXT FIVE DECADES, GEORGE! GO GET HIM! SHATNER MUST PAY FOR SUCH A HEINOUS ACT!!!!!!!
Pathetic.

Luigi - "Nope. Sorry. Wrong answer."
Geezuz, did you even READ anything Chris and Francois even wrote above?
You must really, really, really despise Shatner.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 2:54 pm:

I have just listened to an interview of George Takei on the CBC which has made me rethink my opinion about the whole vendetta between him and William Shatner. Basically, I don't think there is an actual vendetta, not anymore. There probably was one in the past, but it has long ago become a moot point. What's happening now is that the these two men will be cordial with each other whenever they meet in a convention, or other public venue, they will trot out the vendetta whenever it advances their purposes and or carreers, and will just ignore each other the rest of the time.

Here, you can listen to the interview in question. Pay attention to what he says about how Shatner used the vendetta to draw attention to his new talk show, while Takei obviously uses the same tactic here to draw attention to his own, soon to be released, documentary. I think both men are fully aware of how and why the other is using the vendetta, and both are perfectly fine with it.


By Luigi_novi (Luigi_novi) on Wednesday, August 27, 2014 - 6:53 am:

Steve: Geezuz, did you even READ anything Chris and Francois even wrote above?
Luigi: I read everything they wrote, and my position stands: Neither you nor Francis have any authority to determine what answers Takei or any other critic of Shatner's should give during interviews, especially when the question being asked is contextually unclear.

Steve: You must really, really, really despise Shatner.
Luigi Novi: Nope. I have zero feelings about Shatner, just as I have zero feelings about Takei. Had Shatner made the above statement about Takei, and you reacted the same way with Shatner, I'd have reacted the same way.

If anything, the problem here is that you and Francis are to deify Shatner, as indicated by the irrationality in your statements, much as was the case with your intellectually dishonest and childish statements on the Shatner page two years ago.

Me? I don't deify actors or celebrities in general the way you do. There are certainly artists, writers, educators, etc. I admire or respect, but unlike you, I don't put them on a pedestal to the extent that I cannot think critically about them.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 11:20 am:

George has been a bit of a goof, according to this story from the Independent...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/george-takei-branded-offensive-and-ignorant-after-sharing-controversial-disabled-meme--not-that-he-cares-mind-you-9661754.html

Which is here...
George Takei caused offence last week, after sharing a meme depicting a disabled woman standing in her wheelchair reaching for a drink on a supermarket shelf, alongside the caption: “There has been a miracle in the alcohol isle [sic]”
The Star Trek actor posted the image his Facebook page, prompting a deluge of comments which derided Takei for perpetrating a stereotype that wheelchair-users are all completely unable to stand. Those with mobility issues have varying abilities to walk and stand; some cannot use their legs at all, while others are able to stand or walk sporadically. The NHS cites that “wheelchair services are available to people of all ages who have a long-term need for mobility help”.
“It displays an attitude many of us have to deal with every single day: we don't “look” or “seem” disabled enough to do many things without the judgment and criticism of others,” wrote one commenter. “We're supposed to be much more helpless in the eyes of so many.”
“Mobility issues don't always mean you can't stand... sometimes it just means you can't walk, or you have to walk so slowly that a chair works better,” wrote another.
I'm disappointed in you, Mr Takei,” said another. “This kind of joke has become all too common. There are many many people who have limited mobility and can walk or stand for short periods of time, but depend on crutches or chairs for longer distances. A photo was taken of this person without their permission and posted on the internet for a cheap and ignorant laugh. I would not have expected you to perpetuate it.”
Takei – who is also known for his active campaigning for LGBT rights - responded to the criticism with another post, in which he essentially told users to calm down.
“Fans get “offended” from time to time by my posts,” he wrote. “There hardly is a day where something I put up doesn't engender controversy. Concerned fans, worried the sky may fall, ask me to ‘take it down.’ So I'm also going to ask them also to take it down - a notch, please."
Unsurprisingly, his omission attracted further disapproval.

Oh.
I see my least favorite comedy show, The Luigi Nonsense Hour is back on Nutflix. I actually had better things to do this nice long weekend, what with helping out a charitable organization, and celebrating my grandparent's anniversary, rather than respond to somebody's drivel, but here goes.

Luigi; I read everything they wrote, and my position stands: Neither you nor Francis have any authority to determine what answers Takei or any other critic of Shatner's should give during interviews, especially when the question being asked is contextually unclear.

Nope. Sorry. Wrong answer. He could have kept his mouth shut. Period. "That's old news. Fans are bored with that stuff. Let me tell you about all the great stuff I've been doing for the LGBT community." Unless somebody was pointing a gun in his face, he could have taken the higher road and not answered.

Luigi - Had Shatner made the above statement about Takei, and you reacted the same way with Shatner, I'd have reacted the same way.

Nope. Sorry. Wrong answer. I don't believe that for a nano-second. You are so quick to trash Shatner any time I've stuck up for him, ie the Shatner/Garret Wang incident. So that's a lie.

Luigi - If anything, the problem here is that you and Francis are to deify Shatner, as indicated by the irrationality in your statements, much as was the case with your intellectually dishonest and childish statements on the Shatner page two years ago.

Nope. Sorry. Wrong answer. I don't deify anyone, other than my Lord, Jesus Christ. Shatner is just a man that played a character on TV that I liked to watch. Nothing more.

And who are you to tell me when and where to be intellectually dishonest and make childish statements? Who died and made you the God of Free Speech? Are you telling me that in this so-called Free Country that my opinions are childish and dishonest because they don't align with your own pompous high and mighty, always-always-always-always correct opinions? It must be such a strain to be you, being so wonderful and perfect and flawless and so brilliant compared to us useless slugs out in Nitcentral Land. Oh, the trials and tribulations of The Ultimate Brainiac, Luigi!!!!!!!!!
I can tell ya it's exhausting just reading your words, let alone being you! Imagine...NEVER, EVER being wrong? Impressive!

Luigi - Me? I don't deify actors or celebrities in general the way you do. There are certainly artists, writers, educators, etc. I admire or respect, but unlike you, I don't put them on a pedestal to the extent that I cannot think critically about them.

Again, as usual, Nope. Sorry. Wrong answer. I might have come across as that kind of person, but you don't know me. You've never met me. You and I are never going to meet. And your ability to ostensibly 'read' people is so far off the mark when it comes to me is laughable!
Nobody, but NOBODY on TV or movies is on any kind of pedestal-- your words, not mine -- for me. No one. They're all overpaid and I'll never see that kind of money-- hardly the type of person to place above Jesus!
'Cannot think critically of them'? Soooo funny! I just have better things to do than to critque and comment on every single minutiae of somebody else's career or life, so, no, I don't go around stating what I think Shatner has done wrong, or what shows he's been in that I haven't liked. I've commented on the issues at hand in the post here. Other than Star Trek Generations, I haven't been as vociferous about something I disliked, so the positive posts have greatly outnumbered the negative ones.

So this dumbass vendetta or verbal sparring match cranks your shaft, Luigi? You still want to hear more? I pity you, because this stupidity is on the level of Jerry Springer fighting and I have no time for that. You want more of it and perpetuate your ridiculous impressions of me then knock yourself out, because in between doing something with my life outside of here I can always use a good laugh.


By Luigi_novi (Luigi_novi) on Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 10:49 pm:

Steve: He could have kept his mouth shut.
Luigi Novi: No one is disputing that. What is being disputed is the notion that he was should have, and that you have the right to determine this.

Steve: I don't believe that for a nano-second. You are so quick to trash Shatner any time I've stuck up for him, ie the Shatner/Garret Wang incident.
Luigi Novi: I never "trashed" Shatner during that discussion. I merely discussed his and Wang's behavior, which included opining that Shatner's behavior (if Wang's description was accurate) was inappropriate, a bit of calmly-worded criticism that could hardly be called "trashing".

Steve: So that's a lie.
Luigi Novi: No. In order for it to be a lie, you would have to not only provide evidence/reasoning that illustrates that my not treating Takei just as I treat Shatner is more likely than not, but that I would somehow be consciously aware of this before the fact when I stated this above.

You have neither.

Calling it a "lie", therefore, is merely rhetorical.

Steve: And who are you to tell me when and where to be intellectually dishonest and make childish statements?
Luigi Novi: I never told you "hen and where to be intellectually dishonest and make childish statements". I merely criticize you for doing so, which is perfectly valid, and is not predicated on my personhood.

Steve: I can tell ya it's exhausting just reading your words, let alone being you!
Luigi Novi: And yet, you not only do so, but keep responding to them. I'm flattered.

Steve: Who died and made you the God of Free Speech?
Luigi Novi: I never infringed on your freedom of speech. Criticizing you for statements that are poorly reasoned, irrational, childish or hypocritical does not keep you from making them. The legitimacy of any criticism that I or others offer in reaction to the things you say is predicated on the quality of the reasoning or evidence offered for it, and not "who" they are, not being "perfect", not being a "Brainiac", et al. Criticism of your speech does not infringe on it.

Steve: Imagine...NEVER, EVER being wrong? Impressive!
Luigi Novi: Nothing in any of my statements here or in the discussion two years ago implies or indicates this notion. I've not only admitted to being wrong many times, I've done so on serious, fundamental issues, and in the past, have offered detailed examples of where I've not only done so, but altered the way that I post my messages and comport myself here on Nitcentral.

The fact that you fabricate such a non seqitur illustrates the emotionalism that typifies the way you form your conclusions, and express them here. And that, my friend, is derived from your own poor disposition, and not mine.

Steve: I might have come across as that kind of person, but you don't know me. You've never met me.
Luigi Novi: Don't need to. The sentiments and mindset I mention are illustrated by your statements and your conduct here.

When you select one person, and decide that that person should never suffer public criticism from anyone, despite the fact that so many different people have testified to questionable behavior on his part, to the point where you claimed that not one, but two different people should have "kept their mouth shut", without any indication that you would have afforded this privilege to anyone else, then yes, you are deifying that person. That's simply an observation of your behavior, and does not require me to know you or meet you.

Indeed it is interesting that you accuse me of "lying", of seeing myself of "perfect", a "Braniac", and "never wrong", when nothing in my statements implies such a thing, and much of my history here would seem to falsify it, yet somehow I am required to meet you or know you in order to react to the things that you yourself have said.

Steve: So this dumbass vendetta....
Luigi Novi: My comments, while critical, have been restrained and civil. Yours, by contrast, have not, and are far more fitting the description of a "vendetta", than anything I've said.


By steve McKinnon (Steve) on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 11:17 am:

blahblahblahblahi'malwaysrightblahblahblahi'mluiginoviandi'mneverwrongblahblahblahihavenolifeblahblahblahwahwahwahwahyouinsultedmewahwahwah.
So predictable, Luigi Nonsense.


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Monday, October 26, 2015 - 7:23 am:

Takei is soon "trekking" (their words, not mine) to Broadway in something called "Allegiance". More on that from Star Trek.com here.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Friday, November 16, 2018 - 5:10 am:

George Takei and his family were interred, like many Japanese Americans, during World War II.

I've read about that. It was horrible.


By Francois Lacombe (Franc0is) on Friday, November 16, 2018 - 5:48 am:

Hmmm Tim, "interred" would mean they were burried. I think the word you were aiming for was "interned"


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Saturday, November 17, 2018 - 5:13 am:

Yeah, you're right.


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Wednesday, August 26, 2020 - 9:32 am:

More from Mr. Takei on Shatner's insecurities over Nimoy's and Spock's growing popularity at the time can be read here.


By Rodney Hrvatin (Rhrvatin) on Wednesday, August 26, 2020 - 5:18 pm:

Takei is interviewed by David Tennant here


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Thursday, August 27, 2020 - 5:10 am:

Hikaru Sulu meets the Tenth Doctor :-)


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Friday, August 28, 2020 - 8:47 pm:

From StarTrek.com: George Takei is still hoping for the Sulu series to come about. You can read about it here. (Ain't he getting too old for that? )


By Judibug (Judibug) on Friday, August 28, 2020 - 10:31 pm:

Ain't he getting too old for that?

He's not that moronic Danny Glover!


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, August 30, 2020 - 5:12 am:

With all due respect to George Takei, he is now eighty-three years old. HIs action days are long behind him.

The only feasible way this could work is if they borrow a page from Doctor Who and start doing Audio Adventures.


By JD (Jdominguez) on Sunday, August 30, 2020 - 5:03 pm:

Patrick Stewart is 80. Somewhere in those next three years someone can't headline a series anymore?


By Thomas Garrison (Tgarrison) on Sunday, August 30, 2020 - 7:03 pm:

With all due respect to George Takei, he is now eighty-three years old. HIs action days are long behind him.

The only feasible way this could work is if they borrow a page from Doctor Who and start doing Audio Adventures.


I remember listening to Star Trek: Cacophony: A Captain Sulu Adventure in the mid-90s.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Monday, August 31, 2020 - 5:03 am:

There you go that, if Audios can work for Doctor Who, they can work for Classic Trek.

A Sulu Audio series is the best way to go.


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 8:55 am:

And, Takei is interviewed by The Guardian here. He says that getting cast as Sulu was "life changing".


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 5:32 am:

Thanks for the link.


By Adam Bomb (Abomb) on Tuesday, December 06, 2022 - 7:10 am:

George Takei has said he will put his feud with William Shatner to bed - by not speaking of him again. This was said on a recent episode of The Graham Norton Show. More on that here.


By Tim McCree (Tim_m) on Wednesday, December 07, 2022 - 5:03 am:

These two should really bury the hatchet before one of them dies.

Time is not on their side.


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