While Rojan and Spock are playing chess, spock tries to get him jealous. During one of his close ups, he just looks REALY plastered. And out of his non moving lips comes a line! They weren't even trying to cover that up.

Hmmm. Perhaps Spock has taken up ventriloquism.
I found it strange that the Kelvans would think that a ship belonging to an "inferior" race would do a better job getting through the galactic barrier than their ship did. Another point. In "The Changeling", Kirk told Nomad to stop improving the engines because the ship's structure could not withstand the higher speeds. How come that very important fact didn't come up in this episode?

The "she can't take much more of this" scenario was one of the weakest in the original series. Surely the problem isn't velocity, it's acceleration. When you're accelerating, you've got to worry about inertia. Once you've achieved a steady velocity (and I'm talking straight line, not vector), there shouldn't be a problem.

Perhaps the writers in this episode actually got it right. The Kelvans were smart enough to gradually accelerate to warp 15 (or whatever). Nomad's problem was that he put the pedal to the hullmetal.

DeForest Kelly, William Shatner and the guy in Engineering seem to have trouble staying in one place and not moving when "paralyzed."

The Kelvan ship was damaged when it hit the galactic barrier and the Kelvans were forced to abandon it. Does this mean that the Andromeda galaxy doesn't have a galactic barrier? Hmmm, is this why the radiation levels of the Andromeda galaxy are rising? Or does it mean that someone created the barrier around the Milky Way? If it was created, was it to keep something in, or to keep something out?

The dodecahedron block of chemicals is tossed onto the ground and bounces, yet amazingly when the man is restored he is standing upright facing the same direction.

Spock says that the readings were of textbook Humans, except that dialogue indicates that the Kelvan ship broke up when it hit the Energy Barrier at the edge of our galaxy and they used a lifecraft to get to this planet, so where did the Kelvans get their 'textbook' on how to appear Human? Also how do they know that there are enough Kelva-like planets in our galaxy for the Kelvan Empire? Dialogue also indicates that the Enterprise may have been specially chosen for the return journey, but if their ship broke up and they were forced to land on this planet were did they get information about the Enterprise?

Just before putting himself into the trance, Kirk tells Spock to come to in a half an hour. Then we later see Spock being taken into Sick Bay and McCoy injecting him with Sokaline. Did McCoy change the plan by injecting Sokaline or has half an hour actually elapsed?

Rojan refers to his home planet as Kelva, but when Kelinda is smelling the flowers she says memory tapes listed such things on Kelvan.

Spock say the energy barrier is composed of negative energy, but in The Immunity Syndrome when describing the blackness around the amoeba, I believe, that Spock says it is negative energy and cannot believe such a thing exists.

Isn't Kirk afraid that the Kelvans will hear him making his Captain's log about Spock and Scotty's suicide plan? (Of course, Rojan later states that he knew about the plan, so I guess he did hear it.)

How come no one on the ship developed mental powers when they hit the Galactic Barrier like Gary Mitchell and Elizabeth Dehner did in Where No Man Has Gone Before? (Better shields?)

On page 206 of the Classic Guide, Phil wondered about the Federation inviting a conquering race like the Kelvans to the Milky Way galaxy. First just because Kirk said the Federation will do it, doesn't mean they will. Secondly the robot ship will take about 300 years to get to the Andromeda galaxy, so the invitation will arrive sometime in the 26th century and the Kelvans would possibly start arriving in the 29th century. 600 years is quite a good timespan to start improving one's weapons capabilities. (Not to mention the destructive force that the galactic barrier will have on their ships.) What I found interesting was that the Federation, a very small part of our galaxy and one which has not yet explored every corner of it, felt that it could just unilaterally offer planets to an empire from another galaxy.

So was the crew restored before they hit the barrier to get back into the galaxy or were they left as is?

While locked in the cave on the planet surface, Yeoman Thompson asks Kirk "What do they want from us? What kind of people are they?", and Kirk responds that those are good questions. They're not; Rojan has explained exactly what he needs them for.

Why did Rojan lock them in the cave anyway? Couldn't he leave them paralyzed?

Rojan and Kirk pronounce "Hanar" differently. Maybe Kirk is just trying to be insulting.

It always bothered me that they never had time to show the rest of the Enterprise crew being returned to normal. It's unsettling to fade to black while Uhura, Chekov, and the rest are still cheap styrafoam docohedrons.

Also, it turned out to be a real mistake to bring that yeoman along on the landing party. It turns out that she just crumbles under pressure.

Rojan and Hanar have this big discussion about how agoraphobic the Kelvans are, about how they can't stand living on planets and are uncomfortable unless they are on board the confines of a space ship. If that's true, then what do they need a galaxy for? (Just so they can conquer and rule it?)

What's the deal with the thunder sound-effect when Spock is violently forced out of the mind-link with Kelinda?

Would the Kelvans really have been able to conquer our galaxy? Wouldn't the Organians, for one, be able to stop them?

At one point one of the Kelvans beams into Emergency Manual Monitor, where you can look down at engineering through a grid. As he beams in the crewmembers in engineering jump around.

i realize it's probably a moot point now, but those styrofoam shapes are cuboctahedra, not dodecahedra. They're cubes with their corners cut off. Also, their octahedra with their corners cut off. Try it!

Kirk's eyes moved CONSTANTLY while he was frozen. I'm surprised they used that take. The yeoman who was crushed was played by Julie Cobb, daughter of the late, great Lee J. Cobb. Mr. Cobb was blacklisted in the Mc Carthy era, and had trouble finding work. On top of that, he got sick and needed heart surgery. Frank Sinatra paid all his medical bills.

Julie Cobb is still acting today, guesting on such shows as "Family Law" and "Silk Stalkings". I remember her from the movie "Defending Your Life", where she was the tram guide.

Todd Pence informed us, "It always bothered me that they never had time to show the rest of the Enterprise crew being returned to normal. It's unsettling to fade to black while Uhura, Chekov, and the rest are still cheap styrafoam docohedrons."

ya wanna know how they changed back?

It happened when we weren't looking!" (IHWWWL)

(This episode REALLY should've been a 2 parter)

I think Rojan and his four surviving crew are agoraphobic. Think: they were born inside ships in the intergalactic void. There, they will die, Kelinda announces.

Hmmm... how are these five going to procreate? Are Kelinda and Drea going to bear the new Kelvans? Do they know how? I guess they'll resurrect Enterprise's obstetrics personnel for that duration. Who's going to explain human reproduction to them?

Furthermore, will the offspring know how to transmute their bodies back to enormous beings with a hundred tentacles?

Methinks even if they lasted the journey with the discipline of their purpose, they would obey orders at the end of their journey to either:

1 - voluntarily die to preserve Kelvan genetic purity
2 - remain chaste and return to the Milky Way galaxy to spearhead the conquest, eventually dying without having any offspring, unless a way can be found to return to normal Kelvan bioform.

I wouldn't doubt that in 600 years (maybe a bit less if the Kelvan ship was faster than an upgraded Enterprise), the Kelvans might have found faster technology to get to Milky Way. They might be back a lot sooner. Good thing Kirk changed their mind. And who knows what's happened to the Kelvan's objectives and politics in those 600 years.

I wonder if a robot ship could really complete the journey. I guess with the five Kelvans' help, it could be done.

GREAT SFX: The crew changing into geometrical shapes...WAY, WAY, WAY TOO COOL!

Hey, everyone...that's REALLY the Andromeda Galaxy that the Enterprise is heading to! Now THAT'S REALISM!

The warp-bys are taken from the opening credits.

On the Bridge, one of the women reduces 3 of the "non-essentials" standing next to the viewer down to geometrical forms...however, the creators "decided" to skip the sfx.

There is no door swish when Spock & McCoy leave the Rec-Room so Kirk & Kelinda can "apologize"

BEST WARDROBE: Kelinda...and her bare back!

Durning the first "apology" sequence, Kelinda is in a room...in the background is the same device Spock used to disrupt The Companion in "Metamorphosis"

And as we already guessed, the footage of the Enterprise approaching, passing & leaving the barrier is from "Where No Man Has Gone Before"

In this episode we get to see:

Scott's quarters
Scott's kilt...and
Scott's bagpipes...which he plays in ST2-TWOK

CONTINUITY KUDOS---

The writers have REALLY sharpened their skills with their scripts (or should I say, "scpipts"?)

Never mind....

In this episode, Kirk asks Spock to initiate the advanced Vulcan mind meld which he used on Eminar VII ("Taste of Armegeddon")to help in their escape.

MISSED OPPORTUNITY:

The creators SHOULD HAVE shown the true appearance of the Kelvans...a multi-tenticled creature. (I can not help if they were thinking about that, but scrapped the idea because the alien costume looked too fake.)

The creators took a little time to create an artificial lake with bubbling water on the stage....KUDOS!

OK...when everyone is ready to beam up, why didn't Kirk order "Condition Green" and have the Kelvans suspended in the transporter buffer like they will with the Klingons in "Day of the Dove"?

The story seems to start out strong but end very weak....here's what I mean....
At one point, Rojan rejects co-existence with humans, that the Kelvans' mission is to conquer. Yet, after a tense fist-fight with Kirk, all of a sudden, Rojan states that co-existence seems possible.
What happened? Just because the Kelvans were acting like humans? If so, the Kelvans should have know that would've happened. They should've also known that even LOOKING like a human would make them aliens to their own world.
I know Spock states that the order to conquer came from 300 yrs. ago...but why didn't someone mention (or think) about that earlier?

RUMINATION:
The Enterprise warps to the Andromeda Galaxy at warp 11 with no problems thanks to the Kelvan upgrade.

(Even though to me that sounds like TRANSWARP drive)

I'll never figure out why McCoy doesn't use something deadly in the hypo....I mean, the purpose is to regain control of the ship...right?

The woman who takes over Sulu's post is wearing a bikini top under her Kelvan outfit. Notice the strap when she gets up to reduce the bridge crew.

Interestingly enough, in the infamous convention sketch on Saturday Night Live, Victoria Jackson played "the lovely actress Julie Cobb, who played Yeoman Leslie Thompson....and was transformed into a cube, and crushed." I had seen that skit a hundred times, but never knew they went to the trouble to get the actor's name or the character's name right.

They got the episode number wrong, though, If I remember correctly.

They’re cool, but can you hide Battarangs in them?
How do the devices the Kelvans wear on their belts work? They have four functions, or two functions and the reverse of each: they can paralyze people, release the people from the paralysis, they can chemically convert them to small blocks, and revert them back to humanoid form. Yet there is only one button on the device, in the center, and nothing different is done with it between one function and the others. Or do the buttons just read the script as the doors do?
Well, Shatner always acts that way. Now at least, he has an excuse
When the crew escapes the cave prison on the planet in the beginning of the episode, Hanar activates the paralysis field, but only Kirk is frozen.
Maybe he’s trying to touch Kelindra, and has really bad eyesight?
As in A Taste of Armageddon, Spock displays some unusual abilities in this episode. When confined to the cave prison with the others in the beginning of the episode, Spock attempts a mind meld with Kelindra by touching the cave wall.
They’re union
After taking over the Enterprise, Chekov notes surprise at having jumped to warp 8. Rojan says they’ll go faster still. This implies that the Kelvans are controlling the Enterprise’s speed. So why does Rojan then tell Chekov to go to warp 11? Why not do it himself?
Dem stingy bastards!
What happened after this episode? Did the Federation become friends with the Kelvans? If so, why haven’t they retained the advanced propulsion technology the Kelvans used to get to the Andromeda Galaxy? According to the warp calibration chart on page 556 of the Star Trek Encyclopedia, it takes 1,213 years to reach the Andromeda Galaxy at warp 9.2, (or warp 11 in the TOS era). The Kelvans can do it in 300 years, or four times faster. Nothing in the three contemporary series indicates that Starfleet ever gained such technology from the Kelvans.

Mr. Leslie...The red shirt that can never die...is back again. Does the Pope know about this guy?

GREAT LINES:
"We do not colonize, we conquer! We rule!" Rojan to Kirk.
"Oh! You're trying to seduce me" Kelinda to Kirk.

On my remark on the colonizing bit..it certainly does appear the writers wrote themselves into a corner....that might explain Rojan's sudden attitude change regarding co-existence with the humans...In other words...the writers couldn't figure out how to end the story!

NANJAO: The women of the Andromeda galaxy also wear no bras...geez is Playtex out of business in the 23rd century or something?

It's the same with the Kelvan agoraphobia. At the beginning of the show, they can't bear the thought of living in a natural environment. But at the end, they're ready to colonize a planet.

EQUIPMENT ODDITY: Near the end of the episode, Rojan uses the monitor to hail the Bridge to turn command back to Kirk...the problem is, there's no image of who Rojan is talking to on the monitor screen.

How come Rojan doesn't turn Kirk into one of those cubes after they get through the barrier?
Wouldn't Kirk's command responsibilities now lie with Rojan?
I know, I know! If Rojan did this, Kirk wouldn't have been able to use his customary James Bond routine on Kelinda(yada, yada, yada).

At one point, Scotty rigs the Enterprise to blow up at the single press of a button. What happened to all that code stuff that occurs in "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"? Certainly they can accomplish this without Rojan knowing it. All they need is a diversion!

Weren't they releasing something into the barrier that would react with the barrier and cause an explosion?

I thought they opened a plasma vent on the drives. Thus bypassing the main computer and as Ivonava says Boom!

Yeah, that's what they did alright. However, the idea I suggested would've been just as effective.
Either way, the show ended too abruptly and should have been a two-parter

This episode also marks the LAST time we see Scotty's quarters.

But what about his pennies & dimes?

It also marks the last time we see his quarts (of Ganymedian Green Ale and Scotch).

Ganymedian Green Ale

Is that what it is? I thought that all we know is that "it's green".

Picard identified it in TNG ep, "Relics".

I don't remember that. I DO remember Data reprising the "It's green" line. Guess I'll either pull out my tape, or wait for "Relics" to play on TNN.

It was while Picard was talking to Scotty on the holodeck Bridge of TOS Enterprise that the liquor was identified. They shared a drink of it. I think Jean-Luc said he got it or first tasted it through Guinan.

Now I remember. However, I thought he said the liquor was "Aldebaran Whiskey." I do remember Picard gulped down a glass in one fell swoop. Thanks for jogging my memory.

Kirk pronounces the name of the security guard Shea as "Shay-yah". The correct pronunciation of this surname is "Shay".

Picard gave the Aldebaran whiskey to Guinan - "who do you think gave it to Guinan?!" he said to Scotty while sitting in Chekov's chair.

However, Scotty got the stuff he offered Tomar on Ganymede, although he had trouble saying the name of that Jovian moon. It might have been whiskey from Aldebaran, but then, wouldn't Scotty recognize it? Maybe Scotty and Tomar drank Jovian Screech made by someone from Newfoundland.

During the approach scenes to the Andromeda galaxy, the other stars are missing...in fact, it's blank space!

When Kelinda apologizes to Rojan in the final scene, they show a flipped close-up of Rojan...You can tell it's flipped by the part in the hair.

When you are outside of a galaxy you are beyond the stars and would not see any out there in the great void.

LESLIE ALERT!

Mr. Leslie is one of the redshirts that gets neutralized on the Bridge.

DELETED LINE: "I came back from the dead for THIS?" Mr. Leslie.

Starman, there are other galaxies out there & some of them would appear to be stars because they are so far away.

IIRC the 'star' Omicron Centaurus is actually a galaxy.

IIRC the 'star' Omicron Centaurus is actually a galaxy.

It's "only" a globular star cluster.

These people say they came from the Andromeda Galaxy...I wonder if they met the androids on Mudd's Planet.

BEST ALIEN EQUIPMENT (2nd place) : The Kelvan belts.

They can:
Freeze a person
Unfreeze a person
Turn people to geometric shapes
Return people back to normal (after being turned to geometric shapes)

(First place goes to the Tholian Web)

And all with just one button! I wonder if there is another setting control on the belt devices (to switch from freeze to transmutation) or if their function is controlled telepathically.

I thought I remembered seeing them twist a knob on the belt or something. Mayhaps that was another show/piece of equipment.

When Chekov is "neutralized", for some reason there are a couple of chairs in front of the viewscreen.

Previously John Lang wrote:

>At one point, Scotty rigs the Enterprise to blow >up at the single press of a button. What >happened to all that code stuff that occurs >in "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"? >Certainly they can accomplish this without Rojan >knowing it. All they need is a diversion!

In the James Blish adaptation of the episode, mention is made of this fact. Kirk says "We'd never be able to get through the sequence before Rojan paralyzed us." So then they come up with the alternate method of self-destruct.
Of course, Blish didn't get around to writing up "By Any Other Name" until he'd already done "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", so he was able to anticipate this nit.

NANJAO: According to her imdb bio, Lezlie Dalton, who played Drea, was only fifteen years old when she did this ep. She doesn't look much more than a teenager, true, but that young? Why hire somone who is going to have work restrictions when you can just hire an actress over 18, with no restrictions?

I think somebody must have typed her birth year in wrong.

Sir Rhosis

Melody Patterson, who played Wrangler Jane on F Troop, was 16 when she began her role on that series. I first heard that one on "Howard Stern", of all places.

Then again actresses have been known to lie about their ages.

The girl who plays Drea in this episode sure doesn't look fifteen.

Actually, if you find a couple stills of her (there's a site called something like "Women of Star Trek" ran by Laura Goodwin, iirc), she does indeed look like a teenager with a babyfat face, etc.

Sir Rhosis

Some of the footage will be used again in "Is There In Truth No Beauty?"

ALL of the footage of the Enterprise after "The Trouble with Tribbles" was reused from previous episodes, according to the text comintary on the DVD.

Kirk pronounces the name of the security guard Shea as "Shay-yah".
Ya know, that man really should have taken diction lessons at the Academy. Or even in grammar school. He pronounces Kyle's name as "Kowel" ("Immunity Syndrome") and Uhura's name as "You-hura." ("Gamesters of Triskelion.") If he was on Vulcan, would he have called the crewman "Tal-Shay-yah"?

David Gerrold wrote in his 1973 book "The World Of Star Trek" that shrinking the crew to dodacahedrons was a kind of a last minute solution. They were having script problems with this ep, and Gene Roddenberry was playing with a dodacahedron that was on his desk, ruminating something like "What if the aliens could shrink the crew into small objects like this?" The solution was arbitrary, but the best they could come up with at the time, as they had to get the script ready to shoot.

Todd Pence: Kirk pronounces the name of the security guard Shea as "Shay-yah".

Adam Bomb: Ya know, that man really should have taken diction lessons at the Academy. Or even in grammar school. He pronounces Kyle's name as "Kowel" ("Immunity Syndrome") and Uhura's name as "You-hura."
Luigi Novi: Well, maybe he's not as familiar with the pronunciation of Uhura's name as he could at least in part because it's an African name, and Kirk, being an American, hasn't encountered African names as often in his life. As for why he'd mis pronounce "Shea", well, I dunno about that. I know how to pronounce it, but then, I went to grammar school with someone with that last name.

OK...when everyone is ready to beam up, why didn't Kirk order "Condition Green" and have the Kelvans suspended in the transporter buffer like they will with the Klingons in "Day of the Dove"?

We see a couple of the Kelvans get from the planet to the Enterprise and back without using the transporter - maybe that's how it was done.

When Hanar appears on the bridge, why exactly do Scotty, Chekov, Leslie and Hadley immediately leave their posts to grab him? It's an emergency, the ship seems to be out of their control, but the bridge crew can *all* just leave their posts to...well, what were they going to do? It looked like some sort of martial arts move they all got stuck in.

"Condition Green" was in "Bread and Circuses." In this episode, Kirk pushed a button on his communicator to signal Spock that something was wrong.

"Condition Green" was in "Bread and Circuses." In this episode, Kirk pushed a button on his communicator to signal Spock that something was wrong.
Actually, it was Scotty who was aboard the ship. Spock and McCoy were with Kirk; they were all being held by the Romans. Kirk didn't press anything; Scotty knew what "Condition Green" meant. It was "Day of the Dove" where Kirk pushed the button to signal Spock. (I should know; I'm playing that ep now.)

Um...when I said "this episode," I meant "Day of the Dove." For some reason, I was thinking this board was for that episode. Sorry for the confusion.

Luigi Novi wrote:

> As for why he'd mis pronounce "Shea", well, I >dunno about that. I know how to pronounce it, but >then, I went to grammar school with someone with >that last name.

Of course, anyone who'd ever been to a Mets game would be able to supply the correct pronunciation.

In a nice touch of continuity, Spock gives the exact same readout on the energy barrier as he did in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" . . . "Radiation negative, density negative, energy negative."

Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scott were the only four kept from being "neutralized" because the Kelvans considered them essential personnel. Were they intended to be essential through the entire voyage, which the Kelvans said that they themselves would not live to complete? How did the Kelvans intend on replacing the Enterprise men when they died?

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Keith Alan Morgan wrote in 1999: Spock says that the readings were of textbook Humans (...) but if their ship broke up and they were forced to land on this planet were did they get information about the Enterprise?

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Julie Cobb is currently married to Zefram Cochrane,...er...James Cromwell. But, they're seeking a divorce. (Found that one out from Star Trek 2.0.) More here. (Was her Yeoman Thompson the only female redshirt to die?)
Some fresh music was composed for this episode. It was re-used in "Omega Glory" and other subsequent episodes.
Spock's haircut at his forehead is a bit uneven. Did the studio barber have an off week?
When Chekov is shrunk down to a dodecahedron, the helm/nav console is facing too far away from the view screen. Too far to the port side, in fact. And, in that shot, IIRC, the three redshirts that were standing in front of that station in a prior shot, just waiting to be shrunk down, are nowhere to be seen.
What was Scotty saving that bottle of Scotch for, anyway? He never did say just what.
And, not to be repulsive or anything (well, any more repulsive than I already am,) but IMHO, if most people drank what Scotty and Tomar drank, both the amount and the differing types of booze, they would vomit most severely before passing out, if they passed out at all.
Incidentally, Robert Fortier (Tomar) passed away in 2005.

>(Was her Yeoman Thompson the only female redshirt to die?)

Well, there were two female blueshirts as well for a total of three known female crewmembers killed during the series.

Three were three female blueshirt deaths:

1. Karen Tracy "Wolf in the Fold" killed by Redjac

2. Arlene Galway "The Deadly Years" killed by aging disease

3. Elizabeth Dehner "Where No Man Has Gone Before" killed by Gary Mitchell

Oh, yeah, I forgot to include Dr. Dehner since I tend to consider WNMHGB as being apart from the rest of the series. Also, there seems to be some question in the episode as to whether she is actually a member of the Enterprise crew, or just a visiting specialist assigned to that particular mission.

The name of Julie Cobb's character in this episode ("Leslie Thompson") was also coincidently shared by a real-life staff member of Trek magazine, an early professional fan publication. Ms. Thompson had a regular feature in the magazine called "Star Trek Mysteries Solved!" in which she attempted to provide rational explanations for some of the various plotholes and discrepancies of the original series and movies. I believe that this makes her one of the earliest nitpickers!

Actually, upon reflection it would be more correct to term Ms. Thompson one of the earliest "anti-nitters".

When a nit and an anti-nit meet, do they explode violently?

Maybe we need to keep all the nit-pickers and the anti-nitters trapped in the corridor between universes!

The Kelvans said that they barely escaped to the planet they were on in a life craft, but they brought enough technology with them to take over the Enterprise and modify her engines.

Rojan also states that they had spent the time on the planet studying and learning about Earth people. How??

Rojan states that the Kelvans mission is going to be completed by his descendant. But he doesn't even know how to kiss a woman. Rojan, buddy, if you plan of having any descendants at all with that human body you're in, I think you need to study up some more on human mating rituals and practices.

IIRC, this is the only episode where we see Kirk wearing an undershirt. (Spock wore one in "Naked Time.) The costume shirts must have shrunk quite a bit, and rode up a lot on Shatner's chest, necessitating the undershirt to hide Shat's gut. (Watch the scene where Spock and Mc Coy catch him during his fight with Rojan, and see if I'm not right.)

Leslie Dalton was one of Dean Martin's "Golddiggers"; they were his backup dancers and summer replacements. (There were many "Golddiggers", and there was a lot of turnover, so I don't know how long Ms. Dalton was one). More on them here.

EGAD! Joe Tormolen has reincarnated as Hanar!

(Just kidding...same actor)

I'm not sure if this has been pointed out before, but why did the Kelvans need to return to the Andromeda galaxy? In the show, Kirk asks Rojan why he doesn't simply send a message to Andromeda. Rojan replies that no transmission can make it through the barrier. The answer implies that were the barrier not in the way, a message could be sent to Andromeda. So why not do it once they are passed the barrier instead of wasting 300 years going all the way over there?

Well Andromeda is 2.5 million light years away, maybe subspace radio won't work over that distance?

It certainly wouldn't have been designed for that distance (how could the designers have even tested it?)

And how do we know there's not a similar barrier surrounding the Andromeda galaxy?

Live long and prosper.

Because Rojan would have mentioned it?

I seem to think there was a scene that implied the Kelvans were unprepared for a galactic barrier when they entered the Milky Way (hence the damage to their ship) which would imply no barrier around Andromeda, but it's been years since I've seen this ep.

That's right. Rojan says "There is an energy barrier at the edge of your galaxy." and Kirk replies, "Yes, I know, we've been there." If there were such a thing in Andromeda Rojan might have said, "There is an energy barrier at the edge of your galaxy, similar to our own in Andromeda."

The remastered "By Any Other Name" airs next weekend. Main effects are the revisit of the galactic barrier and the shots of the ship in intergalactic space.

In addition to the above redos, they've also added a new wide-angle matte painting for the beam-in.

New views of the planet, a revisit of the galactic barrier, and a shot of Andromeda in the distance.

The beam-in is now a wide shot with a new matte painting showing a lot more of the planet's landscape.

The frozen pose of McCoy pointing his finger seems a bit forced. Just as Rojan freezes them, he turns to wag his finger at Spock for no apparent reason. It seems like he'd continue listening to Kirk and Rojan instead.

I think they just staged it that way because it looked funny. This episode struggles to decide whether it's a drama (ship taken, cremmember killed) or a comedy ("It's... green!")

I always thought McCoy was commenting to Spock about Rojan, something like "Who does he think he is?" but I agree, it looks forced. And as I recall, we didn't see anything leading up to it.

Also, how come Kirk could move his eyes around but Spock and McCoy couldn't?

This episode is strange.

How could radiation make a WHOLE galaxy uninhabitable? Besides, it won't happen for 10'000 years, more than enough time for the Kelvan Empire to solve the problem.

What happens if a Kelvan ship breaks down halfway between galaxies and needs new parts. The nearest repair base is centuries away, even a message would take decades to reach Kelva.

On this note, the statement of transmitting a message back to Kelva is illogical. Putting aside the problem of the barrier, you would have:

a) The fact that said message would take decades to get to Kelva.

b) A rescue ship could not get to Rojan and Co. for at least 300 years, by which time they'd be long dead.

The Kelvans would sure have fun trying to take over our galaxy. You got the Federation, the Klingons, the Romulans, the Cardassians, the Borg, the Dominion, etc. Not to mention super races like the Organians and the Metrons! I don't think even the Kelvans could conquer all of them.

I wonder what happened to the Kelvans in the Mirror Universe? Did they come to the Mirror Milky Way? Wouldn't the Terran Empire have loved to get a hold of their technology!

The re-mastered "By Any Other Name" airs this weekend. The following weekend (2/28-3/1) it's "Return to Tomorrow".

This episode struggles to decide whether it's a drama or a comedy.
IMHO, it's a drama up until Scotty's line "Laddie, you're gonna need something to wash that down with." At that moment it turned comic. Still, it's never less than enjoyable to me. I knew one fan who counted this as one of her favorite episodes.

I noticed a small nit in the remastered version. In one of the scenes where we see the Enterprise in intergalactic space, we first see it travelling at high speed toward us, then past us, then away from us on its way to the Andromeda galaxy. When we see it coming toward us, we should see the still large Milky Way behind it. All we see is black starless space.

Small rumination

This is the same energy barrier that transformed Gary Mitchel and Elizabeth Denher into godlike mutants. What if this had also happened to one or more of the crew this time around?

Just some comments:

To me, the death of Yeoman Thompson remains one of the most horrifying moments in STAR TREK.

Anyone else notice that Scotty is the only one of the four remaining crewmen to actually get his hands on one of the Kelvans' belt projectors? That was supposed to be their goal. The methods Kirk, Spock and McCoy chose to manipulate the Kelvans, when you think about it, wouldn't have achieved that goal - getting ahold of one of the projectors. Scotty's is the only one that would and did work. Unfortunately, Mr. Scott was in no condition to get it to Captain Kirk or Mr. Spock. Still, he did get one.

"Live long and prosper."

One thing I've been wondering: Given the Kelvans were not used to humanoid bodies, instead of injecting Hanar with shots of a stimulant, why couldn't Dr. McCoy have injected a virus into the Kelvan? One that the Starfleet officers were immune to, but the Kelvans would lack an immunity to? It would have to be a highly contagious disease and a very fatal one. Yes, it would mean that our beloved Doctor would be committing murder, but McCoy had no problem with the idea of Kirk ordering the destruction of the Enterprise to stop the Kelvans, so I see no reason why he would balk at infecting them.

How did the Kelvans come to choose the humanoid form to begin with? When were they first exposed to i? They surely were aware of the form before the crew of the Enterprise encountered them, or else why would they have chosen it?

Considering the 300 years it takes to travel from Andromeda to the Milky Way galaxy, the Kelvans were taking something of a gamble in their bid to conquer us. After Rojan and his people made their scouting expedition (following a three hundred year trip to our galaxy), the Kelvans would have to travel another 300 back home and, hoping their civilization still existed, hoping their people had not changed their minds about conquest or found another solution to their problem, make their report and recommendations. Assuming, Kelva was still interested in conquering the Milky Way, that'd be another 300 year back to our galaxy (after their leaders take the time to plan strategy, building their fleets, etc.). So altogether, that's another 600+ years since the Kelvans first came into our galaxy. The report Rojan, or rather his descendants, will be making will be some 600 years out of date. In that time, our technology could change so drastically, the inhabitants of this galaxy could be far superior to the Kelvan race. That's one helluva gamble they're making if you ask me.

"Live long and prosper."

It's amusing to imagine that a Kelvan attempt to conquer the Milky Way could have them entering a galaxy completely conquered by the Borg. ;-)

Of course, Kelvan technology could be improving too.

It's even possible the Kelvan's have improved their intergalactic engines so once they get word to come here the trip could take less than 300 years.

Keith, check out my January 25, 2009 post. It addresses a few things you mentioned.

>To me, the death of Yeoman Thompson remains one >of the most horrifying moments in STAR TREK.

This traumatized me just a little bit when I was a kid. I actually believed, on first seeing that episode, that by the end of it, they would somehow glue all the pieces of the styrofoam block back together and make her whole again. I was distressed that by the end of the episode this didn't happen. The next night, I even tuned in to the next broadcast (which was "Return of Tomorrow") hoping that in THAT episode they would bring her back to life and watched that whole show (which, of course, had nothing to do with the events of "By Any Other Name") in that vain hope.

I can remember as a child having a nightmare where Warren Stevens in an orange jumpsuit came into my bedroom and turned me into a styrofoam dochehedron.

I remember my cousin's mother was also horrified by this scene, and refused to let her children watch Star Trek because of it. One afternoon when visiting my cousins, I wanted to watch that day's rerun of Trek. My cousin's mother told me in no uncertain terms that the show was verboten in their household, and as her rationale brought up the scene in question. However, my mom managed to talk her into letting us watch it for just that one time.

Guess which episode just happened to be rerun that day?

Todd Pence asked...

Rojan also states that they had spent the time on the planet studying and learning about Earth people. How??

Maybe the Preservers left some people from yet another Earth culture, and they hadn't done anything to draw Kirk's attention. Or the crew noticed them but then got distracted by the Kelvans and forgot about them, or investigated them immediately after the end of this episode.

Rojan and the others have plenty of time to learn about mating during the trip. They'll restore the crew a few at a time, ask questions and watch what they do, then turn them back into dodecahedrons, then restore a few other crewmembers, ask questions and observe them, et cetera for 300 years.

We're all glad that didn't actually happen!

But it would be nice to know what happened to the Kelvans and what Earth culture the Preservers had left!

Even the re-mastered episodes recycle footage. One of the shots of the Enterprise in the Great Barrier here was (probably) recycled from (the re-mastered) "Where No Man Has Gone Before." You can tell because in that one shot, the dish antenna is larger then it is in the rest of the episode. Like in the re-mastered "Where No Man..."

Sir Rhosis said a while back:

According to her imdb bio, Lezlie Dalton, who played Drea, was only fifteen years old when she did this ep. She doesn't look much more than a teenager, true, but that young?

According to Memory Alpha, Lezlie Dalton was born on August 12th, 1944, making her 23 when she appeared in this episode.

She's 73 now.

There are only five Kelvans: Rojan, Kelinda, Hanar, Drea, and Tomar.

Is that enough to start a new generation that will last the next 300 years. Seems that Rojan was set to mate with Kelinda (he wigged out when he thought Kirk was moving in on her, after all). So who was the lucky guy to get Drea? Hanar or Tomar? Looks like one poor guy is gonna be left out of the cold.

Unless the plan is for Kelinda and Drea each to have more than one mate. Still, that will cause problems a few generations down the line. Unless they plan to mate with some of the human males as well (assuming they're even compatible).

Good thing they didn't go through with it. By the time the Enterprise got to Kelva, will would be full of Wrong Turn like mutants!

They probably had the technology to correct such inbreeding problems. After all, they were able to completely alter their appearances from giant multi tentacled beeings to simple bipedal humans.

A long while back, John Lang said:

Joe Tormolen has reincarnated as Hanar!

I wonder if Hanar somehow got hold of a database and picked Tormolen as his human form. Did all the Kelvins do that? The only thing that works against this theory is that Kirk and Co. didn't wonder why this alien from another galaxy was a twin to a dead crewman.

Of all the Kelvins, Drea was the only one that didn't get bamboozled by Kirk and Co. Of course, she was stuck on the bridge the whole time the wacky hijinks were going on.

Did Scotty and Tomar come stumbling into Sickbay with hangovers. Loved to see McCoy's grin when that happened.

Of course, the big question is what happened to the Kelvins after this episode. Another thing for a novel to follow up on (I just keep coming up with these).

Warren Stevens appeared in a 1975 episode of MARCUS WELBY, M.D., playing an obstetrician. His patient was played by Julie Cobb.

Warren Stevens appeared in a 1975 episode of MARCUS WELBY, M.D., playing an obstetrician. His patient was played by Julie Cobb.

And her character, upon seeing him, said: Arrrrghhh! NOOOOO! He'll turn me into a little cube and then crush me!

Julie Cobb and Stewart Moss (Hanar) played a husband and wife on an episode of Matlock in the 80's. During down time, they reminisced about working on Star Trek (got this from an interview in Starlog Magazine with Mr. Moss).

I wrote, ages ago, when I wore a younger man's clothes...(Apologies to Billy Joel)

Kirk's eyes moved CONSTANTLY while he was frozen. I'm surprised they used that take.

His eyes still move, even after the remastering project of 2006-09. I'm guessing that CBS Digital could have changed that, but for whatever reason, they chose not to.

Phil pointed this one out in his book.

Actually, I always liked that effect, because it shows that Kirk is still 'in there', and aware of what Rojan is telling him. Whereas, with Spock and McCoy, they're frozen in position, unblinking, asnd might as well be a couple wax statues that Rojan is talking to.
It's a much creepier effect, with Kirk unable to move, except for his eyes, which should rightly show his fear and concern that his life as he's known it is going to end, and he's literally powerless to lift as finger to stop it.

I agree. Kirk clearly wants to do something, but can't.

Long ago, Benn make a good point about this episode, in that any intelligence the Kelvan Empire would have on the Milky Way would be three centuries out of date.

It would be like planning an invasion of another country with intelligence reports of said country from the 1700's.

Long ago, Benn make a good point about this episode, in that any intelligence the Kelvan Empire would have on the Milky Way would be three centuries out of date.

It would be worse, it would be six centuries out of date, three centuries for Rojan to reach Andromeda, give it a few years to prepare, then three more centuries to go back to the Milky Way for the actual invasion.

Whoops, that's right.

Forgot to count that additional 300 years for them to get back here.

Actor Robert Fortier, whom Scotty gets drunk, had a regular role on a television series where his character was named - "Scotty!"

What series was that?

Something called Troubleshooters, from 1959. Here's a list of Fortier's credits. It seems like Fortier worked with director Robert Altman frequently. Mr. Fortier passed away in 2005.