Argghhhhh! Noooooooo! I hate cliffhangers!! Hate'em hate'em hate'em!!

One thought: aren't Peacekeepers supposed to be really tough emotionless types? Aeryn even thanked Crichton for teaching her that she had a heart. So why was Crais so visibly cut up about Aeryn's fate (I'm trying to be deliberately vague to avoid spoilers for people who've not yet seen the episode but can't resist taking a peek at what other people have said!)? I was really surprised by his outward display of emotion.

Again all praise must go to Ben Browder for his amazing ability at portraying pain and anguish.

Hilarious moment: John not thinking twice about losing his memory of American politics!

Unintentionally funny moment, and definite proof that the British subtitlers were working from what they could hear rather than from a script: Crichton told Aeryn that he could occasionally block Scorpius out by singing, then started humming The Ride of the Valkyries (sp?) - but clearly the subtitler didn't recognise it and put it down as the theme to Superman!

Possible spoiler:

I'm not normally that squeemish, but the image of what the chip had been up to inside Johns head made my skin crawl. *ick*

Okay, I've finally got these titles right so that you Brits can discuss this without all of us in the USA :^(

Where do these titles come from anyway? If it weren't for the internet, I'd be calling them "Episode 24, Episode 25, Episode 26, etc."

What does "Die Me Dichotomy" mean?

That is all from your friendly moderator THE UNDESIRABLE ELEMENT. (Yeah, TUE and Plantman are one and the same. I don't know why I used two different names in the first place. I must have been drunk.)

See ya later
TUE

Can't tell you the full meaning of the title without massive spoilers! Though I don't think it gives too much away to say that the 'dichotomy' part is an attempt to remove the Scorpius chip from Crichton's brain.

Is this episode really not given as Part 4 of the Liars, Guns and Money sequence? It's a direct sequel to Part 3 which, if I remember correctly, had a "to be continued" message at the end. No criticism of you, TUE, I just wonder whether the websites have sorted themselves out yet!

Three different websites have said that "Liars, Guns, and Money" is a three part thing and that "Die Me Dichotomy" is the season finale. Why? I don't know. I have yet to see the episodes. (I get the BBC on my satellite, is it on that channel? If so, what time?)

If I'm wrong, I can always change it, but I'm pretty confident that I have it right. The website I use (ign.com) has never let me down before.

See ya later
TUE

TUE:

I can't speak to the Brit side of The Big Pond, but here in the Colonies, the Sci-Fi channel is billing the last four episodes of the season as a package deal.

I know but all I'm saying is that the title "Liars, Guns, and Money Part 4" does not precede "Die Me, Dichotomy". Every website has "Die Me, Dichotomy" only.

I don't know why but that's how it is.

That's all I got for now.

See ya later
TUE

Spoiler (????)(when is UK transmisson relitive to US? Does US spoil UK or the other way around?


nooooooooooooo!
I'm so worried now. As always I am holding out that the end is not the end (was she two seconds before dying? Because that would be a possible good thing, except that she looked pretty dead to me...) but I can't really think of a way to get out of this one (they didn't have to explain how Scopie is still alive though...).
Did anyone else find it a tad bit too much forshadowing when they explained how the doctor will die if anything gets in his nose and mouth at the same time? Of course I can't think of a better way for them to tell us that without us knowing he wasn't going to last the episode, but honestly you just knew someone was going to kill him at the most in opputune time!

Honestly though I nearly cried. Apart from being quite a shipper of almost any show I watch, Aeryn is one of my favorite TV characters ever, definatly my fav on farscape.

And did anyone else find the Jothy-Chiana thing slightly disturbing????

One more thing, why is everyone pairing off in this episode!!!! Poor Rygel is gonna be the only one by himself! And John (if he makes it out of this one and Aeryn doesn't come back) will be left to babble to himself! I'm almost rooting for the guy to kill himself! (No take that back, then we wouldn't have a show, and goodness knows I need my farscape!)

I also take back what I said about Scorpius being a kewl bad guy. When my fav character dying is a direct result of him he loses the bad guy you love to hate thing he had going.

Ok I'm done, But 6 weeks!!!! I've been waiting for months to see any farscape, and now they're gonna make me wait 6 weeks to see what happens!? Curse you evil scifi schedulers!!!

I hate cliffhangers!!!
I have two questions:
#1: When did Chiana and Jothy (Jothey?) become romantically interested in each other? I must have missed it in the last episode or something, because that just came out of left field for me in this episode.
#2: How are they going to reattach John's skull? Does he have a flip-top head like Spock did in the "Spock's Brain" ep. of Classic Trek? I don't know how it works in that part of the universe, but I would think removing one's skull so that at least half a brain is exposed would take major cutting and would be really hard to repair. (Did they explain this in the episode and I just missed it or what?)
Also, I thought for sure Scorpie would take the opportunity to really mess with John's brain when it was just exposed like that. Maybe poke a finger or two in just to see what happens (EEEYYYWWW!!!!). And I, too, completely hate Scorpie now. I really want to see him die. What a creep.

I too was weirded out by the Chiana and Jothy thing too.

Another thing, after going bersek about the frozen inhabitants in the hospital, I would think that Zhan would refuse to have Aeryn's body there as well. Is she completely dead, or two seconds away. I was confused there.

My question is is Aeryn really dead?
I mean she is a Peace Keeper and aren't Peace
Keepers supposed to be able to endure the cold?
If memory serves right it's HEAT and not cold
that is deadly to them,or was that dip in the
ice even too much for Aeryn's metabolism?

Also was all that just another one of Scorpie's
plans to get the Wormhole Technology from Crichton's brain?At least that is what it appeared
like to me in the end,but we shall see when Season
3 starts.

I think the "skull-thingy" that the doctor used on Crichton did not actually remove his skull. It looked (to my fuzzy eyesite) as though we were looking through some sort of viewer, and that you could see a vague outline of his skull there. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess that the doctor has some way of reaching into Crichton's brain without actually removing anything on the surface.

No one ever said Aeryn was dead per se; we're led to believe that she is, but no one ever says that all brain function has ceased and that she's wormfood. And unless TPTB are pulling a Babylon 5 on us (killing off main characters with no sense of obligation to "the show" getting in the way), you know they'll find some way of bringing Aeryn back next season.

I mean, where are they going with the show here? Zhan and the one-eyed guy (forget his name here) are pairing off, Rigel is leaving, Dargo and Chianna are going to leave to start a commune, but Chianna and Jothi are having a KMYF moment, Aeryn may or may not be dead but if she isn't she has said she would go with Crace (sp?) to work with Talin, and Crichton is doing his Kirk Douglas impression (sorry for the tasteless joke). The writers have worked themselves into a pretty good corner here. In fact, this episode smacks of the stuff "Dallas" used to pull. I wonder if in the third season premiere, someone's going to wake up and find Aeryn in the shower...

I knew I'd seen that doctor before! All through the episode I was sure it looked familiar, then this weekend I was watching some videos of Babylon 5, and the doctor looks identical to one of the races in the League of Non-Aligned Worlds. I guess it must be really hard not to accidentally copy someone else's alien when there have been so many.

Bad news for you guys. I got this from an official type Sci Fi Channel chat:

Moderator: to : Justin, I know you're probably not able to answer this but I have to know. Aeryn Sun is undoubtly one of most popular characters on the show and a lot of fans were greatly upset by the finale. Are there plans for Aeryn that figure in Season Three?

JustinMonjo: Aeryn is dead...and when you are dead...you're dead.

JustinMonjo: ga




hmmm I'm slighty feeling in denial here. Almost as bad as when they finally really killed off wade (or her head anyway) in sliders. But I trust these writer to pretty much know what their doing, even if it's not what I would do (then again, I'm not a writer am I?)


BTW Justin Monjo is a writer on Farscape

In regards to interviews with writers, I have found that you almost can never trust what they say. They are always vague and even when they say something solid, like "she's dead," there is always something else going on that they're trying to hide.
I have a feeling Aeryn will reappear, somehow. I don't think they've completely killed off her character (cloning, maybe?)

Top Ten Ways to Revive the Dead:
10. Cloning
9. She's not REALLY dead, just almost dead.
8. Oh! It was only a dream.
7. Parallel Universe
6. Time Travel
5. Good old Q (or an equally omnipotent being)
4. Borg nanoprobes
3. A lazarus pit or some other kind of rejuvinating device.
2. The Genesis planet
1. From an alternate reality, go back in time to when the alternate and true realities were only one reality. Then get abducted by hostile aliens. Have a daughter with one of the aliens. This daughter will grow up to look just like the recently deceased and go after her mother's old ship.
(For those of you who think I've lost my mind, see TNG's "Yesterday's Enterprise", and "Redemption")

I too am not confident that a line like "Aeryn is dead" is a definite statement that she won't be back. I'd have been more convinced if he'd written "Claudia Black is not returning to the series"!

Exactly. Plus, I haven't hear anything about Claudia leaving the series or being kicked off or something. I would think that if she was, people would have heard something by now.
I have to say, though, that the idea of a "Borg-ified" Aeryn would be pretty cool.

Anyone who wants to know about Aeryn for sure - Read this months SFX (www.sfx.co.uk - How does one get hyperlinks to work in this version anyhoo?) mag in the UK. Also has the Reader Awards 2000.

If you do wanna know what Farscape got go to the newly created "The Stuff That Doesn't Fit Anywhere Else" topic I crated in the Kitchen Sink seeing as how you can't add to the main Sink area itself.

Scorpius is a prime example of the whole overdoing the villian thing. With the chip in his head, no matter where you are, you have to deal with him every day. A cool villian you should only use sparingly.

I forgot one other classic way to resurrect a dead person... the evil twin!

Don't forget the Mr. Leslie(?) syndrome from Star Trek, TOS! He died in one episode, then was back at the conn the next!

Now that I’ve watched this episode enough times not to be sobbing incoherently all through the latter part, I’ve realised how ‘earthcentric’ the funeral scene is and I can’t say that it’s a good thing. I’m assuming that the ‘Requiem’ song was only heard by the viewers and wasn’t actually playing in the chamber but add this to the number of times that aliens said the word “Amen” and suddenly it’s a human funeral.

Now, I realise that, in effect, we hear what Crichton hears and that he has translator microbes but as far as I can work it out, the microbes only translate where the English word and the alien word are pretty much identical. For instance, they don’t translate the words ‘arn’, ‘microt’, ‘frell’, ‘mivoks’ etc and my assumption is that this is because the English equivalent of, for example, ‘arn’ isn’t exactly an hour and so the microbes can’t come up with a perfect translation. And as far as I’m concerned, it’s very unlikely that there would be a direct translation of such a human word as ‘Amen’ – I would have expected it to be only a similar sentiment which we would have heard as an alien word.

Finally got round to seeing this one.
Firstly, I thought that the surgical frame just phased Crichtons skull, so that it was still there, just not in the way.
(Apologies to anyone who's just been put off their dinner :-) )
Secondly, Sebacians can't tolerate heat, although their tolerance to cold hasn't been established. Even so, there's been many cases where someone has fallen into freezing water, effectively drowned, and been resuscitated much later on because the cold shutdown all bodily functions. Crichton should have been aware of this, even if the rest hadn't.

I believe that it was stated early on that Sebacians are cold-blooded. Therefore, extreme cold should probably have a similar effect as extreme heat. The shouldn't be very tolerant of it.

Concerning the very first post from Callie: Keep in mind that Aeryn was a born Peacekeeper, while Crais was a draftee.