The pilot episode was very interesting but what I want to know when the spaceships destroyed earth then the forest grew back then it was destroyed again why did the one building with Fry still stand?. Second if a building withstood that test what about time? It should have decayed over that many years in to rubble or dirt?

Lastly suicide booths should be well marked

Hey, how did Fry's booth survive the time cyborgs enslaved the Earth ("Love's Labour's Lost")?

How can Phil say yes to a Futurama board but no to a Simpsons one? They're made by the same people!

But the shows are different.

I'm thinking there is an extraordinarily large amount of nits that go with the unrealistic world of the Simpsons, top that with ten seasons, hundreds of characters, ack, that board would be really busy...

So what if the shows are different? DS9, Voyager and Next Gen are basically made by the same people and are different from each other, yet there are boards for all of them.

I have asked for a Simpsons board, and been told no. Twice. If you think you can succeed where I failed, then please try. But I have warned you!

The biggest nit in the Simpsons is that:

Bart & Lisa are still in grade school (Ok, maybe Bart still in grade school is not a nit :P) and are still little kids after 10 years, and Maggie is still a baby after 10 years.

So what? The Peanuts, Milo and Binkley of "Bloom County," Ronald-Ann of "Bloom County and Outland" haven't aged. And I think Garfield has stopped aging. Is that really a nit?

ScottN: Matt Groening has gone on record to say The Simpsons don't age which raises a whole of nits. Obviously they age up until about 1990 and then stop. And when Lisa talks of Sideshow Bob's past in the Cape Feare episode, she says the first encounter took place five years ago.
But, of course, if there was a Simpsons board we discuss all this, couldn't we?
A good moderator would keep tabs on behaviour and so on - why the reluctance from Mr Phil?

Garfield hasn't really stopped aging, he's 20 years old, a 20 year old cat...
Assuming that cat years are like dog years and last about seven human years Garfield should be about 140 years old!!

I'd like to quote Bart:
"Cartoons are real, it's just a bunch of stuff that happens, y'know, stuff, stuff like that"
While he says this to Homer and Lisa, another Homer walks by the window outside.

Matthew-I also asked for a Simpsons board. That actually led to be being put incharge of the Star Wars board. Since it's the Chiefs board I guess he can say no to any board he wants. Also, IMHO Futurama is more like Star Trek/X-Files than the Simpsons.

If the Chief does not want a Simpsons board, it is not going to happen. Period. End of argument.

If you notice something in Futurama that looks like a "homage" to the Simpsons, by all means bring it up. I do not have a problem with that. Some nits (for example, an inaccurate rendition of Leonard Nimoy) are common to both series.

Those who are interested in "The Simpsons" are welcome to check out this link:

http://www.snpp.com

The episode guides contain continuity problems, inaccuracies, and all those little things that delight our nitpicking heart.

Those who want to keep on bringing on nits about the Simpsons (or any other animated show) that have no connection to Futurama whatsoever may end up with edited/deleted messages.

Now, let's keep on discussing Futurama. I hear it is somewhat nifty.

Simpson related? Anyone notice the 3 eye fish swimming underwater when Fry goes through that tube? Homage to the nuclear radiation induced mutant fish seen throughout the simspons.

One is led to believe the chief might be [snip, snip]

Note from the Moderator: OK, I think this message is off-topic enough to warrant my intervention. Just a reminder that
1) this is the "Futurama" board, not the "Speculations about the Chief" board.
2) Name-calling will NOT be tolerated. I will not hesitate to edit or delete messages that resort to insulting.

Sorry for the unpleasantness. Back to your show.

Jo-Hanna

Just in case anyone is wondering, the graffiti on the wall in the alley where Fry and Bender go down underground says: VENUSIANS GO HOME

To be really cool and cultural, it should have read "Martians Go Home". Anyone ever read it?

ROMANI ITE DOMOS

When they were doing countdowns to the years 2000/3000 it seemed like they were showing scenes from all over the world, but different parts of the world would experience 12:00 midnight at different times. (Although, maybe in the future time zones have been abolished and it's the same time all over the world?)

It could have been a montage of the countdowns as they occurred.

In the scene where Leela calls for backup, her communicator is on the wrong arm.

Did anybody noticed that, despite the fact that it was almost midnight, on a winter night, in New York City, at the beginning, there was absolutely no snow to be seen?

Okay, to give the producers the benefit of the doubt, maybe it hadn't snowed for some time before New Year's Eve. But then, why wasn't anybody's breathe visible? New York City on December 31, 1999 must have been in the middle of a heat wave.

That would also explain why Fry wasn't wearing a winter coat.

When Fry falls into the freezing chamber, it was right after midnight. So, technically, it was January 1st, 2000. The dial sets itself to 1000 years (how *did* it do that by itself by the way?), and when he wakes up, it is December 31, 2999. But if he was frozen for a thousand years just after midnight on January 1st of Y2K, then he would have woken up on January 1st, 3000. In reality, he was frozen for 999 years, 11 months, and 31 days, roughly.

How *did* Bender's arms pick themselves up after falling off him?

Fry must have been out of it after being frozen for 1000 years (sorry, 999 years, 11 mon... oh forget it) to not be able to tell that that suicide booth was not a telephone booth. And it's interesting that it actually would tell a dead person that he or she is dead.

When Fry falls into the freezing chamber, it was right after midnight. So, technically, it was January 1st, 2000. The dial sets itself to 1000 years (how *did* it do that by itself by the way?), and when he wakes up, it is December 31, 2999. But if he was frozen for a thousand years just after midnight on January 1st of Y2K, then he would have woken up on January 1st, 3000. In reality, he was frozen for 999 years, 11 months, and 31 days, roughly.

Must have been that Y2K bug!

Shhh! I'm trying to keep a low profile.

No doubt because of the recent tragedy, they changed a line.

Originally when the guy stepped into the air tube he asked for "JFK, Jr. Airport", this time he asked for "Radio City Mutant Hall."

One hs to wonder, though, why? The line wasn't mocking him in any way. It could even be considered some sort of tribute, that he has an airport named after him in the 30th century.

Also this line appeared in most, if not all, of the commercials promoting Futurama before it aired.
And considering all the hype that surrounded the accident it wouldn't surprise me if there is a JFK, Jr. airport soon.

I don't think that would be a very good choice for an AIRPORT...

Actually, I read a newspaper article commenting on that. It was a simple joke in the first episode they were planning to make a recur. They're not going to now.

I taped the little bit in the head museum. Using freeze frame, the two heads to the left of Fry and Bender are Liz Tayler and Dennis Rodman. Also, in the President section, I was curious as to who will be elected next year. The answer is...Warren Harding. Also, there is no Kennedy head, which is a nice touch. However, there is Nixon, who diedc before his head could be preserved.

Anyone notice the bit at the start with Fry falling into the freezer tube? He's rocking on his chair and....Nibbler knocks him in! Watch carefully. You can make him out as Fry starts to fall. I haven't seen it myself but I heard on another site that you can see Nibbler.

In the Head Museum, there is two Grover Cleavlands. (He was elected to two non-consecutive terms as President.) Obviously, one is a clone, or possibly both.

Message to Chris Thomas and all Futurama watchers in Australia.

You can add comments for this episode!

Thankyou very much!

Now the receptionist in our office reckons Fry's girlfriend who calls out to him from the cab in the pre-credits sequence is actually Bart's love, Laura Powers, from The Simpsons. She reckons Laura has grown up a bit but I don't think it's her as all. What do you think?

nope. The girl's name was Michelle. I remember cause that the name of the girl I'm in love with! :-)

Didn't think it was her... now I just have to convince our 18-year-old receptionist who won't ever admit she's wrong!

Well, if you really want to do some grungy nitpicking, compare a tape of the real New Year's celebrations with Futurama's version. I'm sure there are a number of mistakes. ;-)

You know....it doesnt always snow EVERY New Years in New York....

Sure it does... And everyone in L.A. is in the movie business, and everyone in Texas is a cowboy, and ...

...and there is noone in Kentucky. I can't think of any TV show where anyone lives or visits Kentucky. When TPTB want a southern state, it's in Tennesse; when TPTB want a mid-west state, it's in Indiana. At least you state gets on TV from time to time. Were almost as bad as Atlanta in some respects.

Ccabe, I live in Atlanta....was that a joke (see "The Deep South")?

I forgot to mention "Independence Day (ID4)".

"Ma, go visit Aunt Esther! Why did I just send my mother to Atlanta?"

I appoligize to anyone I've offended by the Atlanta remark. Also, Merat proved my point that Atlanta might not get the best mentions on TV, but at least TPTB acknoledge their existance.

BTW, I've been to both Atlanta and Old New York on band trips. I have to agree with Fry, not Umbriel on their comments in "The Deep South". (Atlanta is a nice city but it's not as nice as New York.)

Forgot the smiley face on my post Ccabe :-)

Are the heads of the dead presedents robotic or cloned?

Presumably they're cloned.

Is the suicide booths the Star Trek reference? If not, they could be now, in a homage to the episode, A Taste of Armaggedon.

So was Bender in the booth to actually kill himself or does he like living dangerously and playing dares.

NANJAO: This episode reminds me of "Sleeper" by Woody Allen

Is the suicide booths the Star Trek reference? If not, they could be now, in a
homage to the episode, A Taste of Armaggedon.

Actually, there's an SF short story that has suicide booths in it as well. I don't know if it predates Trek or not. It's been so long since I read it I don't remember the title or who wrote it.

I've been listening to the audio commentaries on the DVD and it has convinced me that the creators of Futurama are totally insane.

I saw it again the other night after Cartoon Network started the show over again. Still great.
How *did* Bender's arms pick themselves up after falling off him?
Not even Fry could answer that question. Although later episodes would seem to suggest they can move on their own such as the one with Leela's parents.

So was Bender in the booth to actually kill himself or does he like living dangerously and playing dares.
His dialogue seemed to hint at the latter.

I don't know why, but I like that robot cop. Loved his "24th Century" line.

--By Dan R. on Friday, August 13, 1999 - 03:37 pm: Anyone notice the bit at the start with Fry falling into the freezer tube? He's rocking on his chair and....Nibbler knocks him in! Watch carefully. You can make him out as Fry starts to fall. I haven't seen it myself but I heard on another site that you can see Nibbler.--

SPOILERS:
In a the episode that aired last week(at least for me), it confirms that Nibbler DID push Fry into the tube, because he was needed to fight the brains.
END SPOILER

What happened to the other people who were in cryogenic freeze in 1999?

Their timers may have been set for less than 1000 years.

Why doesn't Fry get in trouble for asking Nimoy to do the Vulcan salute? Trek is forbidden!

If New York was destroyed twice over, then shouldn't it be called New New New York?

John A. Lang inquired:

Doesn't Fry see that Nimoy no longer has a body, therefore has neither arms nor hands?

Probably, but Fry is not too bright.

Re New Year's all around the world at the same time...

Perhaps the date changes happen at midnight in New New York, but the date changes happen at 5 a.m. in New London, 8 a.m. in New Moscow, 1 p.m. in New Hong Kong, etc. There is no longer an international date line, a blasted nuisance because it is so easy to fly around the world.

So, if you live in Britain, the date change still happens in the "wee hours", but by the time Morbo shows up on the TV screen, it is the new day. If you live in Hong Kong, you go to work in the morning of one day and get home from work on the afternoon of the next day! "Honey, I'm home!" and you've been gone since yesterday!

In a world where we could soon have airplanes that can circle the globe in two hours and trans-oceanic trains that travel in vacuum tunnels at supersonic speeds, dates could get to be a real problem if the whole world isn't on the same date at the same time.

When it is 12:01 pm in London, it is the same day in the time zones 12 hours behind London, but it is a shade past midnight the next day in New Zealand, but it is already 1 a.m. the next day in Fiji, 2 a.m. the next day in eastern Kiribati. Only because Fiji's and Kiribati's populations are scant does it mean the virtually everyone was, for just an instant, all on the same date until New Zealand marched into tomorrow.

Three dates are in effect in the world for a two hour period from 10 pm UTC until midnight UTC! It could be January 1 at 11:30 p.m. in the Wallis and Futuna Islands, 11:30 p.m. January 2 in western Kiribati, and 1:30 a.m. January 3 in eastern Kiritabi!

With things like that, the march of the date change hour by hour has no future in an "international" world as seen in Futurama.

Ooops, second last paragraph - that should be 10 a.m. UTC to noon UTC.

After Bender removes the central two bars from teh window to escape the head museam, there is a cut to a closeup of Bender, with the window in the background, and the bars are back.

Also, I get the idea that Bender really is suicidal in the beginning, but his program is altered by the electricity, turning him into the Bender we know.

Pentalarc

So, big boy, you deleted all of John A. Lang's posts for this season, did you? Rene, you're a first class jackass, you know it? (Incidentally, since you've "resigned", leave the damned boards alone. That's part of "resigned" means.)

Nah...It provided me with some amusement...Doing something like this online didn't make me feel like a big boy at all...Just filled in some boredom during my lunch break