By Matthias Roth on Monday, November 2, 1998 - 07:14 pm:

In the beginning, when the Enterprise approaches the Tsiolkovsky, the positions of the Tsiolkovky's lights change suddenly.
Data's search for "uniform+shower" seems to be very ineffective and slow compared even to today's full text search engines.
At the end of Data's first search we can see a sketch of a very flat looking starship. Does anybody know it's type ?
Data shows a certain emotion when Picard reads his search results.
When Data transfers the PSI200-report to sickbay his keyboard doesn't produce the normal beeping sound but the rattle of a late 20th century keyboard.
The "disordered" Yar leaves Troi's quarters and Troi talks to Picard via communicator. At this moment she knows that it's not an infection but a poisoning. How does she know about it ? Was she still in sickbay when Dr. Crusher got the virus report ?
From the German version: When the chief engineer enters the bridge we can hear the normal sound of turbolift doors closing and the strange sound of a distorted audio tape.
Where does the second engineer wear his communicator ?
The shockwave of the nova has no effects to the Enterprise - no shaking etc.

The reflection from the pulsating red alert lights is missing when Data very fast inserts the isochips.
The impulse drive is yellow (and not red) when the Enterprise flies away at the end.
Only an idea: Why didn't they use the Tsiolkovsky to tug the Enterprise out of danger ? The technical systems of the ship were ok, remote control was probably possible. Odd didn't the Tsiolkovsky have a tractor beam ?
The Tsiolkovsky could have been pushed that way that the star fragment passed between Enterprise and Tsiolkovsky.
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By Charles Cabe on Monday, November 2, 1998 - 08:11 pm:

On a similar note, why not send a skeleton crew and fly the Tsiolkovsky out under her own power? The bridge hatch was open, but they could use auxilary control or Engineering to fly the ship.
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By Rebekah Bunch on Tuesday, November 10, 1998 - 04:41 pm:

Not a nit, just an observation. Something that has always bothered me about this episode, and also about "The Naked Time" from TOS, is that they were produced too early in the series for us to appreciate just how out of character the characters were. Even three or four more weeks into the season this episode could have had much more impact.
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By Johnny Veitch on Thursday, December 17, 1998 - 03:49 pm:

In "Encounter at Farpoint" the conn and ops consoles were reversed. In this episode the creators still don`t know which is which, because at the beginning he`s at one of the front console, but in the "if you prick me, do I not b...leak?" scene he`s at the other front console.
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By Mf on Tuesday, December 22, 1998 - 04:03 pm:

Rebekah - I think the whole point was to give us a look at what goes on inside these characters - in vino veritas. It's not that they were supposed to be out of character, but stripped down to their core. There are some good moments - Geordi lamenting his eyesight, Troi describing what it's like to be an empath on a ship full of emotional people (really the only time we get a glimpse of that). Still, The Naked Time was much better.
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By Rodnberry on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 05:18 am:

I thought the funniest scene in this ep was of course when Yar wanted to find out just "fully capable" Data was. Serious thumbs down, however, on her outfit and hairstyle.
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By Omer on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 02:54 pm:

Strangely, I saw TOW virgins of this scene! In one Tasha wore Starfleet uniform, and on another a blue.. THING... I admit I lied the Star Fleet uniform better...
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By Mike Konczewski on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 01:28 pm:

Omer, I hope you meant "two versions", or else there's some subtle subtext I missed in this episode.
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By Omer on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 03:02 pm:

I ment two versions mike
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By D Mann on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 06:27 pm:

Yes, "Two Virgins," the landmark John Lennon/Yoko Ono release, which featured the famous couple naked on the album cover. Data was listening to it in a scene that was cut out before the episode aired...
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By Murray Leeder on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 07:47 pm:

Landmark in having a nude cover, right? Because the music's pretty unremarkable would-be avant garde stuff.
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By D Ono Mann on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 02:19 pm:

"Landmark" being a tongue-in-cheek bit of irony, actually. But yeah, I think it was the first nudie cover to be globally distributed. And yes, there's better avant-garde out there; in fact, there's better avant-garde Yoko out there. (Although it is still better than "Unfinished Music:Life With the Lions." But I wouldn't call it "would-be" avant-garde. It's pretty legit as far as that's concerned.

Of course, you and I are likely the only folks here who have heard the record or at least would admit it.
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By Mike Konczewski on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 05:27 pm:

Nope, I'm very familiar with the works of Lennon and Ono. I've even heard Yoko's solo album, "Fly." Wish I hadn't.

If you compare and contrast this episode with the TOS episode it's based upon, I think you'll see some odd comparisons. Except for O'Reilly and Sulu, the original Enterprise crew is a mass of neuroses, just barely in containment. Spock is conflicted over his heritage, Kirk is a mass of confusion, and Chapel is a candidate to become Spock's stalker.

Then look at the Enterprise-D crew. I thought they all acted like silly drunks. Picard and Crusher, and Riker and Troi didn't seem in love, they just seemed horny. Data was doing his best Foster Brooks imitation, and the goofy Oriental guy in Engineering was just plain silly. Either this crew is more emotionally balanced, or they have no depth.
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By D Mann on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 02:19 pm:

I'd vote for "no depth," myself, but you've all heard me rave about how much I dislike TNG...

Riker and Troi merely horny? Kinda like "Insurrection," no?

I must be one of the only people who doesn't hate Yoko. While I recognize that "Fly" isn't terrific, and "Season of Glass" was ridiculous, I do get a bang out of Yoko's "Plastic Ono Band" album, with the killer Lennon/Starr/Voorman rhythm section. And the Ono/Ima album "Rising," from a few years ago has some great Sean Lennon rhythm tracks on it. And the concert was cool.
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By Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 1999 - 01:18 pm:

When Data was doing his "uniform and shower" search, he should have logged on to Ask.com.
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By Keith Alan Morgan on Saturday, April 17, 1999 - 01:51 pm:

A door keeps trying to close and fails, but when Geordi walks over the doors open and stay open. Why didn't they stay open while the dead person was leaning against them?

Sick Bay was a rinky dink looking set back then, but then you could say the same about Engineering.

Tasha finds Geordi, taps her communicator, then lowers her voice to talk to Security. She acts like she doesn't want Geordi to overhear what she's saying, but he's standing right next to her.

The Assistant Chief Engineer lets Wesley watch Engineering because there is no one else available. First of all, does it really take just two people to run Engineering?
Secondly, what about calling an Engineer from the next shift, like Chief Argyle or Leland T. Lynch? Thirdly, we see plenty of people walking back and forth, and, no doubt, all of them have more engineering expertise than Wesley. At least as far as the Assistant Chief Engineer knows.

Picard calls Yar and she's 'busy' with a crewman. Picard orders her to stay in her room and then sends Data to take her to Sick Bay, but when Data arrives Yar is alone and expecting him. Did Picard forget to end the transmission after telling Yar to stay put and where did the crewman go? Did Yar hear that Data was coming and told the crewman to pull up his pants and leave?

Why does Crusher have such a hard time isolating the compound? She knows what a similar compound looks like, so wouldn't the new compound look similar?

Riker asks the Chief Engineer for a Sonic Driver. Is that anything like Doctor Who's Sonic Screwdriver? And don't you think the Sound Effects people should have put in a little warble or something when he turns it on?

Isn't Worf a little snitch, whispering to Riker that the Captain is infected.

Don't you think it amazing that with all of the accidental 'infections,' that none of the affected people touched Worf? (Lucky for them.)

Shouldn't we see more than one piece of stellar matter coming away from the star? If they had showed several pieces flying off, then the one that endangered the Enterprise, would have been more believable, but instead they strain credibility by expecting the viewer to believe that the Enterprise just happened to 'park' in the wrong spot.

Why didn't Wesley just focus the Repulsor beam on the Stellar Matter? (I know, maybe he was too 'drunk' to think of it, but he thought clearly enough to reconfigure the Tractor beam.)

The main difference between the compound in this episode and the one in The Naked Time seems to be that undersexed characters like Yar, Dr. Crusher and Data become extremely horny while oversexed characters like Riker become celibate (or impotent?)

Descriptions of Data's construction in this episode seem to contradict information in later shows. Dr. Crusher states that if he were any more perfect she would list him in a medical textbook and he states that he is in several Bio-Mechanical textbooks and later he states that he has chemicals that are similar to human blood. All of which implies that Data's mechanics were based on the human design, but in Datalore the internal structure of him and Lore look very mechanical and not based on the human internal structure. The most interesting question however is if Data and Lore have that hard plastic under their skin, then why do we see things like muscle twitches when there are no muscles under their skin?

This could have been a good episode, if only they had put more thought or time into it. This show actually violated what Picard says in the title voice-over. Instead of "going where no one has gone before" they retreaded territory that had already been done before.
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By Charles Cabe (Ccabe) on Saturday, April 17, 1999 - 03:17 pm:

>Don't you think it amazing that with all of the accidental 'infections,' that none of the affected people touched Worf?>

1. Who would want to? (Except Dax.)
2. Klingons may be immune to the virus.
3. I might take a long time for Worf to build up enough "Alchol" to become infected. Klingons have a high tolarnce for alchol.
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By KAM on Sunday, April 18, 1999 - 09:40 am:

Then again, maybe he was touched and that is what made him act like a snitch???
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By Mike Konczewski on Monday, April 19, 1999 - 10:08 am:

Tonight on "Touched by a Klingon", Worf learns it isn't nice to snitch on the Captain....
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By KAM on Monday, April 19, 1999 - 10:52 am:

"What! I have to wash all the windows! But, sir, the ship cleans itself!"

"Oh, so sorry Mr. Worf, but somebody accidently deleted that file."

My big problem with this episode: Why in the world is DATA affected? He's an android, and as I recall, he was supposed to be immune to all sorts of viruses. How does a walking machine get drunk??

Does this make sense to anyone, and if so, please explain it!

Have you seen Bender on Futurama?

Actually there is a comment early in the show when Dr. Crusher comments on Data's health and Data comments that he is listed in several bio-mechanical textbooks, or something like that. I believe that they were trying to say that Data was partly biological or his design was based on biological construction at this point in the show's life.
Later they decide he's just, plastic, and flashing lights inside, making the drunkeness a nit.

I do remember, rather vaguely, the bio-mechanical comments, but then the whole idea went to plastic and metal and flashing lights. Besides, he has a positronic brain, not a somewhat organic one. And, as I remember someone in the med field telling me, drunkeness occurs in the brain (I could be wrong though). As a result...shouldn't the main computer have gotten drunk too? Now...there's an interesting idea! ;)

Picard: Computer, what is the status of the enemy ship's weapons systems?
Computer: (hic) How the heck should I know? (hic) Say you're kind of cute.

I think that idea would have been a lot more fun! *LOL*

Somewhere in a Trek series the computer expressed his love for the captain. I can't remember where and when it happened (Kirk?)...

Electron, it was "Tomorrow is Yesterday" Kirk says when the computer was upgraded by some alien experts, they thought it lacked personality, so they gave it one. Capt. Christopher comments that you people seem to have a lotta problems. I think one of the cartoons(Practical Joker?) had a similiar problem with the computer.

Or the computer could flirt with Data! "Hey sexy Data, wanna kill all humans?"

Sorry, couldn't resist... :-)

Or Data could be shown holding up books with circuit diagrams in them exposing the centerfolds and getting all excited.

Oh, I worked out ages ago why Worf isn't much affected by alcohol (here and on DS9).
It's nothing to do with him being a Klingon, it's because he grew up in Russia!

Of course, one wonders whether Voyager's computer, with its "bio-neural gelpacks," could become "drunk" as well.

When Geordi leaves sickbay Dr Crusher walks back to her office to use the comm system, despite her wearing a communicator and holding a second communicator.

Apparently this deck-by-deck search wasn't very through. Geordi managed to wander all over, from Wesley to the Observation Lounge unhindered.

It was mentioned early on by Picard that even if the star exploded, they could escape at 1/3 or 2/3 impulse. When they were running out of time, nobody thought of separating the saucer section and towing the engineering section.

Probably mentioned somewhere before, but nobody thought of getting past Wesley's repulser beam with a transporter.

The Enterprise is about 5 minutes from being smashed by an astroid and there is NO attempt to abandon the ship via pods, shuttles, or the captain's yaht. Granted, only a small fraction of the crew could escape, but some is better than none.

Wesley walks around the ship with a tractor/repulser beam emitter containing it's own power source (mentioned to Geordie in Wesley's quarters), yet later, the "power" to the device is cut by fiddling inside of a wall in main engineering.

Incidentally, I think Data wan't really drunk, but was only acting that way to justify sleeping with Yar instead of doing his job Notice when he is given the antidote, his speed at inserting the isolinear chips doesn't visibly increase.

Wesley walks around the ship with a tractor/repulser beam emitter containing it's own power source (mentioned to Geordie in Wesley's quarters), yet later, the "power" to the device is cut by fiddling inside of a wall in main engineering.

He could have had some kind of battery when he was showing it to people, but wanted something more perminant because he was going to be running it for hours when he took over engineering.

>He could have had some kind of battery <

Uh-oh, it's a somekinda! (See most episodes of Voyager for an explanation.)

Exactly how could the tractor beam block people from the engineering station, since the unit wasn't bolted down to anything? With enough force, I'm sure Riker could've pushed into the beam, and cause the unit to fall to the floor.
And why not just cut a hole into the window? I'm sure the right phaser blast could've melted the glass/transparent aluminum without harming anyone.

Or as the Nitpickers guide mentioned, why not
just beam into there?

Obviously, there's really no reason Data needed to be sent from the bridge to escort Yar from her quarters to sick bay. If it was truly necessary that she be taken there immediately (and there was nothing that could be done for her there), a security team) could have picked her up. Clearly a plot device to get these two together.

Also, in the end, everyone smiles warmly at Wesley and congratulates him for "saving the ship" with his repulsor beam. They seem to forget the ship would have not needed saving had he not taken over engineering and allowed that other fellow to pull all the command chips out in the first place.

If I could only find the blasted thing...

Long long ago in a college far far away I wrote up a whole essay on Data's physicality and all the extra-special neat things he can do. One of them is change the shape of his exoskeleton to simulate musculature (and squish loaded dice into being balanced while still maintaining their dice shape...dude can make the palm of his hand into a cube shape...)

Anyway, Generations would seem to indicate he *does* have biological components, "crying" yellow blood. Also, Data's organic components were mentioned a number of times in totally obscure and meaningless ways in TNG. They just made it *look* like he was just blinky lights and plastic stuff cuz it was easier. So his organic components could have got drunk, and since he has "neural net and heuristic algorithms" all over his body, his brain didn't need to get drunk for his thinking to be obscured.

Oh, um...a nit...that hasn't been mentioned...hmm...er...I forgot!

Just a thought about using the Tsiolkovsky to move the Enterprise out of the way of that stellar matter...I'm reminded of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, and the computer command codes that Spock and Kirk use to remote-control the Reliant out from under Khan's control. Couldn't the same have been done to the Tsiolkovsky from the Enterprise? Use the T. to tow Enterprise out of the way right from the comfort of the Enterprise's bridge? Even faster than beaming over... :-D

Wasn't the Tsiolkovsky a civilian science ship?

I think it was a Starfleet science ship.

I believe it was under Starfleet control since if I remember correctly the crew were wearing starfleet uniforms. It has been a bit since I've seen this episode though.

Here are some (sometimes minor) continuity errors from this episode:

While the crew is listening to the transmission from the Tsiolkovsky Worf is standing at the aft consoles in one shot, in the next shot he is standing next to Tasha at the weapons station.

Shortly after that, you can see him walking twice from the aft consoles to Tasha.

When Crusher begins Geordi’s check-up after the away team returns from the Tsiolkovsky, Riker’s hands are hanging down in one shot, in the next shot they are crossed behind his back.

When Geordi is confined to sickbay the first time, Crusher checks him with a tricorder. After taking some readings, she goes to her office. When she starts walking to her office, the tricorder is in her right hand, but when she rounds the corner, it’s in her left hand.

And when she leaves sickbay, to check, where Geordi has gone, she is holding the tricorder in her left hand. In her right hand, she is holding Geordi’s communicator and a pen-like device. In the next shot, she is holding that pen-like device in her left hand.

The position of Picard’s, Geordi’s and Crusher's hands changes in the scene when Tasha leaves after she has brought Geordi back to sickbay.

When Riker and MacDougall are working to shut down Wesley’s force field, there is one scene when Riker is holding nothing in his left hand in one shot, then in the following shot he is holding some kind of technical device in his left hand.

Don't you find that odd when Yar is willing to have sex with Data?
Didn't she says that she grew up on failing Colony? Getting gang rapes? I have no idea what's going on in her mind, you would think after being raped several times you don't want to have sex again after that.
Sure Data is a machine so it is possible that Yar just used him as a sex toy.

Not always the case. Some girls who are raped or molested at young ages grow up to become "sluts" (not a term I like but I can't think of a better one to use) A very close friend of mine was raped by her 5th grade teacher. She's now 18 (almost 19) and has had sex with 6 diferent guys. I could go into what I believe are the reasons for this (lord knows she's poured her heart out to me about her life enough for me to have some idea about how her mind works) but that's really not the topic of the board.

It is apparent that "the drunk bug" that has infected the crew would have a bearing on Yar's activities ... it is also apparent that this epidemic has mind altering symptoms, I wouldn't blame Yar's desire to *hump* Data soley on her conscience ... it is more likely a fantasy of hers to use Data as "a sex toy" come to life.
This argument might have relavance due to the above post, that since Yar WAS raped by a "carbon unit", she might find Data more appealing.

How come Troi didn't try and throw herself at Riker when she got drunk? Or better yet, put on some skimpy lingerie and then throw herself at Riker? I'd like to see that.

(The creators were probably worried that if she did, the camera lens would melt after it focused on Sirtis' hot bod!)

NANJAO: The Tsiolkovky looks a lot like the USS Grissom of STIII.

I must add that it's be interesting if the ship was called the "USS TCHAIKOVSKY" after the composer Peter I. Tchaikovsky.

It's named after Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, after the father of Soviet rocketry.

I actually thought that when I first saw the episode (I was 11 at the time) the ship was called the "USS Tchaikovsky" until I quickly realised that, as someone who originally wanted to be an astronomer and was a keen follower of space programmes, the name "Tsiolkovsky" was more appropriate. [Still, that never stopped a later ship being named "USS Lalo" (named after composer Edouard Lalo, I think... or was it Lalo Schifrin? ) in TBOBW...]

Of course it looks like the Grissom. They're both Oberth-class ships.

What I meant was...they most likely used the same footage of the Grissom in this episode. (Just altered it a little with some CGI)

Of course it looks like the Grissom. They're both Oberth-class ships.

Also, they've got to cut down on the costs for their first season around - sci-fi shows aren't exactly ten a penny, and there's every chance the first series could stink worse than the underpants of a vagrant skunk living near a sewage works such that it bombs altogether. (Hmmmm... fragrant stink bombs?)

John A. Lang, this was well before Trek's producers were using CGI for space shots. It is the same model ship that was used for the Grissom (with a new paint job)

Besides, they didn't even have the CGI in back then that we do today. What little they did have was used in movies, and wasn't even affordable for TV in general. Remember, this was 1987.

As for reusing footage, was the shot of the ship used for when it collided with the asteroid even in ST III?

[Still, that never stopped a later ship being named "USS Lalo" (named after composer Edouard Lalo, I think... or was it Lalo Schifrin? ) in TBOBW...]
Actually, I was just watching Disk 6 of the TNG Season 1 DVD set last night and the Lalo was first mentioned in We'll Always Have Paris, and then was later lost in TBOBW.

OK...no CGI...but it sure looks like it. Had me fooled.

If Data is "fully functional" wouldn't that mean he produces sperm and can make Yar pregnant? But since his creator wasn't an android, his sperm logically wouldn't be the same, but still, Data and Yar's child would be half-android, which is consistent with Trek genetics.
Trek genetics isn't quite as bad as Trek temporal mechanics.
That "fully functional" line was supposed to be a joke about his having sex, but it logically would apply to all the other human body functions.
Whatever happened to Engineer Argyle? I wish they'd mention him sometime, maybe even in fanfic.

That's actually a semi-valid point you bring up, Sten. How far does Data's "programming" go? Although I seem to vaguely recall him saying somewhere that he can't reproduce the old-fashioned way; I bet if he could, he wouldn't have resorted to making an android "child" later on. He could have theoretically had his own "biological" children, and not gone to all that work on Lal.

At the start of this episode, the Tsiolkovsky's bridge crew are blown into space. Isn't it odd that no attempt is made to recover the bodies?

I want to know the rest of Data's limerick ("There once was a woman from Venus, whose body was shaped like a...").

I haven't heard of this mentioned by anyone, which surprises me. When Commander Riker was attempting to escort Data to Sickbay, Will steers the unsteady android toward the only turbolift on the Main Bridge that goes ONLY to the Battle Bridge. I thought they were going to sickbay! Was this one of those bizarre side trips,like those that occur in other episodes that cause crewman to wander around on the wrong decks? And did this experience, in such a tenuous frame of mind, addle Data's understanding about the singular destination of this particular Turboshaft? It was the same Turbolift Data was pictured standing in front of in "Brothers" when Picard ordered everyone to evacuate Engineering.

Sickbay was such an obvious redress of the Briefing Room/Observation Lounge; it looks like the windows were covered up with vinyl sheets to turn the lounge into sickbay. Someone probably realized that the lounge was going to be used in almost every episode, that it would be cost-effective to build a separate Sickbay set.

Where has it been established that that turbolift goes only to the battle bridge?

Wasn't the Grissom the same class of ship as the Reliant? If so, then the Tsiolkovsky and the Grissom are not the same class. I'll describe the Reliant and the Tsiolkovsky.
Reliant - Nacelles hang down, saucer held between the struts ending in the nacelles, torpedo launcher in the center of the structure holding the saucer, no secondary hull.
Tsiolkovsky - Nacelles point up, Saucer held between the nacelles, Secondary hull hangs uner the stucture with the nacelles, no arm between the saucer and the secondary hull like on Galaxy class ships.
Reliant was an Oberth class ship, IIRC, and Tsiolkovsky doesn't resemble it. From watching later episodes, Oberths and whatever Tsiolkovsky was are in use throughout the period of the series.

Wasn't the Grissom the same class of ship as the Reliant?

No they weren't. The Grissom and the Reliant look nothing alike. The Tsiolkovsky was the Grissom model with a new paintjob.

The Grissom and the Tsiolkovsky were both Oberth-class ships. The Grissom was the first Oberth-clas ship ever to appear in Trek.

The Reliant was a Miranda-class ship, and was the first of its kind ever seen onscreen.

Incidentally, the Miranda-class was the first class of starship ever seen in Trek after the Constitution-class, and the Oberth-class was fourth. (The Excelsior class was the third.)

That is, of Starfleet.

At the start of the episode, Picard says that the Enterprise is at Warp 7...but the visuals show the Enterprise at Impulse.

Also, D. Troi calls Riker "Bill" instead of "Will" like she usually does. I think this is the only time Troi calls Riker "Bill"

That was something that they came up with in the early TNG writers bible that Riker was called Will by most people and Bill by "female friends" but they never stuck to it.

Well...anyway...I was wrong. Troi calls Riker "Bill" in "Haven" as well.

Maybe after the events of Haven, Riker had a notice printed in "The Enterprise Weekly Newsletter" that he never again wanted to be addressed as Bill.

I don't blame him.

So the Captain and #1 are Billy Jean you're...

>When Troi enters Main Engineering, her sweat is so HOT!

>When we see Tasha's stomach, she looks HOT!

>When Dr. Crusher pulls down the sleeve in the center of her uniform, she looks HOT!

The original title for this episode was "Totally Naked"

Are you serious?

Yes. You can see it on a blooper reel at:

http://www.civfanatics.net/~trek/

Of course another question is: Why didn't Dr. Crusher put Geordi in restraints? McCoy's Sickbay on Kirk's Enterprise had restraints. Why not Enterprise-D?

(Short-show syndrome)

The Enterpise D sickbay doesn't have restraints like Kirks Enterprise did, it had force fields to hold people down.

Then...that's what they should've used on LaForge. But of course, they didn't.

Funny how the frozen naked people on the ship died in such a way that they were covering up the bits they couldn't show on tv, wasn't it?

By Brian Fitzgerald on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 - 9:48 pm:

Wesley walks around the ship with a tractor/repulser beam emitter containing it's own power source (mentioned to Geordie in Wesley's quarters), yet later, the "power" to the device is cut by fiddling inside of a wall in main engineering.

He could have had some kind of battery when he was showing it to people, but wanted something more perminant because he was going to be running it for hours when he took over engineering.

By margie on Friday, May 18, 2001 - 11:33 am:

>He could have had some kind of battery <

Uh-oh, it's a somekinda! (See most episodes of Voyager for an explanation.)

Wow I'm glad that I read all the way through these things before responding to OLD posts, because if I didn't I'd be repeating something similar to what I said 6+ years ago, oops. Although I still think I'm right. I have a laptop computer, I can carry it around on batter power; but if I want to do anything long term I best find a wall plug to power it from.

Marina said at the convention that she hated the outfit she wore in this episode as well. She hated that purple "arrow" that was sewn onto her spacesuit. She said, "The 'arrow' was pointing at my stomach and forcing the audience to look at it because producers thought I was fat." (or something like that)

Got the first season box set and started going through it last night.

One thing I noticed - when Bev informs Jean-Luc that there's an infection on board which probably came back from the Tsiolkovsky, why doesn't he order quarantine procedures put in place for at least the medical deck, main engineering and the bridge, if not the entire ship?
In fact, why aren't the away team quarantined anyway, just in case?

Also, if the Tsiolkovsky had an emergency hatch blown, why isn't the ship completely airless? There was no mention made of a containment field anywhere.

Containment fields are just one level of protection in containment and emergency hatches. It would be incredibly dum-b of SF, and the writers, to not consider emergency bulkhead, doors, and vents to close in those situations. We have them now in ships and subs so I would hope that technology would still be used even with force fields.

In this episode, Picard is outwitted by a drunken teenager. That's right, Wesley, while drunk and delirious, OUTHINKS Picard. Seriously, now, captain... I was half asleep when watching this, and even I picked up that if Wesley demands to be the one to carry out your orders to prove himself, and then asks you the 'hypothetical' "If you had control of the ship back, what would you do?" he is clearly going to use that to identify your orders and then go carry them out to prove himself! Now, clearly, Picard is underestimating him and a bit off his game, but really... to fall for such an obvious gambit is shameful! :-)

Wesley is only one in a very long line of ridiculous foes that have outwitted Picard over the years. Only Riker has a more shameful record, having been outmatched by the Packleds.

"How come Troi didn't try and throw herself at Riker when she got drunk? Or better yet, put on some skimpy lingerie and then throw herself at Riker?" - John A Lang
She did, more or less, as he was carrying her off ("Wouldn't you rather be alone with ME?")

"Didn't she says that she grew up on failing Colony? Getting gang rapes?" - Quinn Mcfly
Well, she references AVOIDING the rape gangs, not necessarily falling prey to them, so there is no evidence she received such treatment.

"Sven of Nine tickling your Tchaikovsky in another Spot the Reference game"
A little late, Sven, but... View To A Kill.

Riker was only outmatched by the Pakleds if you stop watching the episode halfway through. If you watch it to the end, he and Geordi get the best of them.

True but I am sure it is not a mission Riker likes having on his resume:

StarFleet: Yes Commander, we would love to put you in charge of Star Base 123 but we have some questions, you see we were going over your profile and this one mission stands out
Riker: what mission is that sirs?
Starfleet: Well the mission details your first encounter with the Packleds--
*Riker slaps forehead* Look we won that one
StarFleet: yes you succeeded but the fact is your were put in a very dangerous situation due to your lack of discretion, Commander Troy even went on record as saying that she emphatically warned you against trusting the packleds.
Riker: you cant use that, she is my wife now.
Starfleet: Indeed, very well, stricken. Never the less your chief engineer states that you ordered him to install dangerous weapons technology on the Packled's ship and only by luck and good timing and his own skill did you come out unscathed.
Riker: he said WHAT??! why that son of a--- ok look never mind, I don’t want the stinking star base, I will just stay where I am... Picard has to move on....someday. and then the Enterprise will be mine. I just have to……………….. keep waiting thats all!

in my area on the central coast, tng is on now, the episode is naked now..I guess I missed tng on Monday.., it started with the first
episode..

My thoughts on the first regular episode of the series:

I wonder what Wes ended up doing with the devices he created, you know, where he could lift and move objects with a small tractor beam (that he *brilliantly* changes into a repulsor beam and jury-rigs it into the ship's power to save the day when the freakin' Chief Engineer Of The Week couldnt even do anything to help) and the thingie that faked Picard's voice over the ship's intercom. That must have been where Bok got the idea from to fake Picard's "confession" in "The Battle". Of course, that sort of thing had been done before in the history of Starfleet, I just can't remember any other examples of it right now.

I would think that Picard would have made sure that both of them were confiscated and dismantled. He probably no longer wanted to have just anyone be able to order his officers around the ship the way it happened here. That I can understand. But what about the repulsor beam, did that ever get mentioned again? I honestly can't remember.

Like Phil said, this was only the second episode, and we should all probably treat it lightly. That Tsilkovsky virus, the way it changed water to alcohol and made people become intoxicated, well, that certainly was interesting to see how it affected the crew. Notice how it didnt really affect Worf, his Klingon physiology made him resistant to it somehow. And the fact that Data became intoxicated was indeed a bit of a Changed Premise, or at least it would become one later in the series as Data's speech and mannerisms would be a bit different later on the the series. Here, though, it was fairly amusing to see his "I just got laid" face, but it didn't really make sense with what we would later know about him and other Soong-type androids years later.

"In the end, everyone smiles warmly at Wesley and congratulates him for "saving the ship" with his repulsor beam. They seem to forget the ship would have not needed saving had he not taken over engineering and allowed that other fellow to pull all the command chips out in the first place." - Anonymous in 2001

Yep, I totally agree with that one. He helps to save the day with his brilliant mind, but the fact that he became intoxicated and commandeered Engineering where he did nothing to prevent the drunk A.C.E. from removing all the isolinear chips that controlled the ship's propulsion systems, well, *that* was the reason for the problems happening in the first place. And if it hadn't been for Data and his superfast android reflexes, the crew would have bought it for sure! Oh well. Like it has been said before, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. However, this episode would not have happened if that was always the case!

"Number One, McDougal, get that boy out of Engneering!" - Picard in severe frustration. I always thought this line was funny!

Resurrected Nits on Sunday, May 09, 1999 - 6:56 am: By Matthias Roth on Monday, November 2, 1998 - 07:14 pm: Why didn't they use the Tsiolkovsky to tug the Enterprise out of danger ? The technical systems of the ship were ok, remote control was probably possible. Didn't the Tsiolkovsky have a tractor beam?
It may not have been powerful enough to move the Enterprise, which is a much larger vessel.

Keith Alan Morgan on Saturday, April 17, 1999 - 01:51 pm: Why does Crusher have such a hard time isolating the compound? She knows what a similar compound looks like, so wouldn't the new compound look similar?
It had probably mutated too much.

Ghel on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 - 2:40 pm: It was mentioned early on by Picard that even if the star exploded, they could escape at 1/3 or 2/3 impulse. When they were running out of time, nobody thought of separating the saucer section and towing the engineering section.
Don't be stupid Ghel! 1) Seperation would take too long. 2) Any tractor beam emmiter in the saucer section would not be powerful enough to tow the engineering section.

Probably mentioned somewhere before, but nobody thought of getting past Wesley's repulser beam with a transporter.
The beam may have blocked any incoming transporter signal.

Mark Bowman on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 6:57 am: Exactly how could the tractor beam block people from the engineering station, since the unit wasn't bolted down to anything? With enough force, I'm sure Riker could've pushed into the beam, and cause the unit to fall to the floor.
The beam was probably strong enough to deflect anyone who tried to push through it.

And why not just cut a hole into the window? I'm sure the right phaser blast could've melted the glass/transparent aluminum without harming anyone.
Would you want to use a pahser set to cutting mode so close to the warp core?

Madelline Malloy on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 1:34 am: I haven't heard of this mentioned by anyone, which surprises me. When Commander Riker was attempting to escort Data to Sickbay, Will steers the unsteady android toward the only turbolift on the Main Bridge that goes ONLY to the Battle Bridge.
WRONG! This is an express turbolift, with access to a standard turbolift station on Deck 8.

I have explanations for other errors in this ep, including some that first appeared here - see http://explaining-errors-in-star-trek.wikia.com/wiki/The_Naked_Now for details

It may not have been powerful enough to move the Enterprise, which is a much larger vessel... Any tractor beam emmiter in the saucer section would not be powerful enough to tow the engineering section.
I'm sure there's more examples than this but Emmisary (DS9) showed a runabout towing a much larger Cardassian warship with a tractor beam; plus they're in open space so this probably isn't as big a problem as you're making it out to be. The timing of the other options were likely the issue.

How come NOBODY is in Sickbay besides Dr. Crusher? Where's her staff? If she chad some help, Geordi would not have left Sickbay.

Why would the Enterprise be designed with a very
blatant and weak single point of vunerability when it comes to engine power? So all someone needs to do to disable warp power is to pull out a single isolinear chip from that one console, or better yet shoot it with a phaser? Also, why didn't they go to impulse power if the warp engines didn't work? Are they controlled by that same console?

In this episode of TNG
"The Naked Now" there is a
SS Tsiolkovsky Oberth-class
NCC-53911 , Imagine if there was a future episode of Star Trek, such as Discovery, Picard, Strange New Worlds, or any other Live Action Star Trek series or Movie to have
a USS Zelensky to Honor the Heroism,Bravery,Courage and Leadership of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for defending Ukraine against the Russian Invasion

Or Imagine if in a Future episode of
Live Action Star Trek there is a
USS Churchill , name after the
Legendary British Prime Minister
Sir Winston Churchill

Do you even know who Tsiolkovsky or Oberth were?

Probably not.